What is Happening With The US Election?

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UnoiAmarah

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Agree ...absolutely speculation and a far too small a sample size to declare an anomaly.
Oh yeah, you're one who thinks George Floyd went into the store and passed a counterfeit bill. :censored:

The numbers are hard. 500,000 absentee votes difference in three counties is a substantial amount when they favor one candidate.

It would be interesting to see those three counties in Michigan recounted while monitored by Election officials, but that might violate Canadian elections laws or something. :unsure:
 
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Most people are in their echo chambers.....

For some wanting a Biden presidency, it's over and even if incontrovertible proof came out that left no question that there was massive voter fraud, it wouldn't matter.....they wouldn't believe it.

And the same sentiment exists on the other side. There are Trump supporters who won't accept any proof that there was not significant electoral fraud.....they're already convinced the election was stolen and they won't rest unless the results are overturned.

I'm sort of in the middle.....I am seeing what appears to be significant levels of, let's call it 'irregularities'. Sufficient enough to change the results? That I don't know. Personally I think there is fraud on both sides.....always, in every election, even it's just for a local sanitation commissioner. I almost feel like it's simply a question of who is better at cheating, that's who wins....and in this election, Biden's team did a better job.

While I'm in the middle on the results, I do have a bias toward Trump.....frankly I don't care for either candidate much, but Biden seriously scares me...I'm convinced if Joe wins massive draconian lockdowns are coming and the WEF 'Great Reset' agenda will go ahead full force....
 

UnoiAmarah

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The radicals are trying to seize the country. Unless the Lord stays their hand, they are about to win. This is what the founding fathers feared would happen.
The Founding Fathers didn't fear this would happen because the people did not directly vote to elect the President and Vice President, nor the Senators of Congress of the United States.

If the liberties of the American people are ever destroyed, they will fall by the hands of the clergy.
Marquis de Lafayette​
 
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kaylagrl

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The Founding Fathers didn't fear this would happen because the people did not directly vote to elect the President and Vice President, nor the Senators of Congress of the United States.

If the liberties of the American people are ever destroyed, they will fall by the hands of the clergy.
Marquis de Lafayette​


Oh I think they saw a lot of possibilities coming down the pike in the distant future. Very intelligent men.
 

UnoiAmarah

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Oh I think they saw a lot of possibilities coming down the pike in the distant future. Very intelligent men.
I not sure you got the point of my post, maybe you did-I don't know.

But yes, they knew who the adversary of men's liberty was which is the purpose of the election of the President and Vice President and U.S. Senators not being vested in a popular vote.

Thus the point was, that the President and Vice President were elected by Electors, persons who were appointed by the Representatives of the States, not by popular vote of the people. [See Art. 2, Sec. 1 of U.S. Constitution] Maybe that is what you were referring to, I am not sure.


The initial U.S. Constitution ratified in 1788, was amended for a second time when Article 2, Section 1 was amended on June 15, 1804, by the 12th Amendment which added this specific provision;

The Electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate; ....
* this is only a section of the 12th Amendment, the entire Amendment can be view here. LINK

The provision that Electors were individuals chosen by the Legislature of their States did not change nor did the number of Electors that the Legislature could appoint which had already set as being the number of their US Representative and US Senators.

While the members of Congress who serve in the House of Representatives were elected by the citizens of the State,
Article 1, Section 2
The House of Representatives shall be composed of Members chosen every second Year by the People of the several States, and the Electors in each State shall have the Qualifications requisite for Electors of the most numerous Branch of the State Legislature.
the two Senators that would serve in the U.S. Senate were elected by the Legislature of their State.
Article 1, Section 3
The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each State, chosen by the Legislature thereof, for six Years; and each Senator shall have one Vote.
However, the provision of Article 1, Section 3 was amended on April 8, 1913, by the 17th Amendment, which changed the method of the election for U.S. Senators from the Legislature of the States to a popular vote of the citizens of each State.

But I digress, it is really a moot point since George Washington foretold what event would demonstrate that men were no longer capable of self-government. And that has long passed. A good example can be seen right here in this thread.

Yet think about how many financial transactions take place using credit/debit cards that are accurately and securely processed each day? And While I can't say exactly, yet I can say that a daily average would be over a billion if in 2018 the yearly total was 365 billion. Source Yet the reason that an election method isn't already in place that gives the election results at 5:01 p.m. when voting ends at 5:00 p.m. is that when men are no longer able to govern themselves, do you really want them electing your leader?

Besides the election isn't until December 14th. But don't tell nobody....
 
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kaylagrl

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I not sure you got the point of my post, maybe you did-I don't know.

But yes, they knew who the adversary of men's liberty was which is the purpose of the election of the President and Vice President and U.S. Senators not being vested in a popular vote.

Thus the point was, that the President and Vice President were elected by Electors, persons who were appointed by the Representatives of the States, not by popular vote of the people. [See Art. 2, Sec. 1 of U.S. Constitution] Maybe that is what you were referring to, I am not sure.


Yes, I do understand that. But I think they knew that America could easily be corrupted, even though they tried to avoid that at all costs.





The initial U.S. Constitution ratified in 1788, was amended for a second time when Article 2, Section 1 was amended on June 15, 1804, by the 12th Amendment which added this specific provision;
* this is only a section of the 12th Amendment, the entire Amendment can be view here. LINK

The provision that Electors were individuals chosen by the Legislature of their States did not change nor did the number of Electors that the Legislature could appoint which had already set as being the number of their US Representative and US Senators.

While the members of Congress who serve in the House of Representatives were elected by the citizens of the State,

the two Senators that would serve in the U.S. Senate were elected by the Legislature of their State.


However, the provision of Article 1, Section 3 was amended on April 8, 1913, by the 17th Amendment, which changed the method of the election for U.S. Senators from the Legislature of the States to a popular vote of the citizens of each State.

But I digress, it is really a moot point since George Washington foretold what event would demonstrate that men were no longer capable of self-government. And that has long passed. A good example can be seen right here in this thread.

Yet think about how many financial transactions take place using credit/debit cards that are accurately and securely processed each day? And While I can't say exactly, yet I can say that a daily average would be over a billion if in 2018 the yearly total was 365 billion. Source Yet the reason that an election method isn't already in place that gives the election results at 5:01 p.m. when voting ends at 5:00 p.m. is that when men are no longer able to govern themselves, do you really want them electing your leader?

Besides the election isn't until December 14th. But don't tell nobody....

Very informative. I grew up in Canada which has a slightly different system. As to this past election my head is still spinning. I don't personally think I will ever trust polls or an election again. And once the Dems take hold, unless God spares us, they will pack the court, take away the electoral college and throw open the borders to all. The country will fail within the year. Ol' Biden has already declared he will lock down the country for another 4-6 wks. This will be the death blow for many small businesses and families clinging on by their fingernails. So I continue to pray, asking God to make a way. People can have their own POV, I see what's coming. Haven't stopped praying this whole year for this election. May God be with us and give us favor one more time.
 

kinda

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What's going on?
I’ve never heard of anything like this in a US election. It resembles an African or South American Socialist Republic at the moment.

From the opposite side of the Atlantic I'm trying to track what is happening. There’s a stinking rat somewhere.

A burst water pipe was reported as the reason why counting was stopped in Georgia and in North Carolina the counters were sent home at about 4 am GMT time with around 99% of the votes counted. Trump was winning in Michigan, Georgia, Wisconsin, North Carolina with only a few percent of votes remaining, when they stopped counting votes and all news channels went offline. And suddenly Biden is apparently winning in all of these states?

I fell asleep at 5am GMT.

According to the conspiracy theorist, Trump will win by the way of Supreme Court, and Liberals will burn down every city in America. It's just a theory and can be proven false.
 

Moses_Young

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According to the conspiracy theorist, Trump will win by the way of Supreme Court, and Liberals will burn down every city in America. It's just a theory and can be proven false.
Looks like Trump exposed the corruption of the Supreme Court. I still think he will win, though. Might be a nice Christmas surprise? :)
 

shittim

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Yes, the evil one is at work all over the world, right now the godless communist chinese government seems to be his minions.
 

Nehemiah6

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According to the conspiracy theorist, Trump will win by the way of Supreme Court, and Liberals will burn down every city in America. It's just a theory and can be proven false.
You posted this on Friday, perhaps without knowing the the Supreme Court sabotaged Trump. Now it is up to Trump to sabotage the evildoers with some drastic presidentlal decisions (which should have already been implemented). Let's hope he has the courage and intestinal fortitude to show some spine.

As to liberals burning down every city in America, are you not aware that every city which has a Democratic mayon -- particularly black majors -- has already been destroyed, and every state which has a Democratic governor has become totally lawless? And these are the people who gleefully stood by and watched BLM and Antifa torch America.
 

Nehemiah6

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Yes, the evil one is at work all over the world, right now the godless communist chinese government seems to be his minions.
Correct. China is bound and determined to take control of the world, and all the traitors in the West are more than happy to hand their countries over to China. Chances are that China has bought them off with millions, and if Biden becomes president, America will become a colony of China.

China had declared war on the West when Mao seized power. That war was never changed. Yet all the politicians of the Western world handed their industries over to China, while at the same time throwing their doors wide open to Chinese infiltrators. Recently feckless and traitorous Justin Trudeau in Canada literally gave permission for Chinese troops to be trained on Canadian soil by Canadian forces!
 

kinda

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Looks like Trump exposed the corruption of the Supreme Court. I still think he will win, though. Might be a nice Christmas surprise? :)
You posted this on Friday, perhaps without knowing the the Supreme Court sabotaged Trump. Now it is up to Trump to sabotage the evildoers with some drastic presidentlal decisions (which should have already been implemented). Let's hope he has the courage and intestinal fortitude to show some spine.

As to liberals burning down every city in America, are you not aware that every city which has a Democratic mayon -- particularly black majors -- has already been destroyed, and every state which has a Democratic governor has become totally lawless? And these are the people who gleefully stood by and watched BLM and Antifa torch America.

I wish the only real problem was who was gonna be president of the U.S.. There is so much crazy going on, at this point just trusting God. The world is begging for God to fix things, but it's God timing, not ours.

Supposedly Kim Clement says, a surprise will happen this Christmas, but that's according to a letter that was read by Tre Smith.

I think speculating on what could happen seems reasonable, for me, it's eat some trail mix, and watch how it plays out. We all have a front row seat in some crazy times. Yeah us! lol
 
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KT88

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I keep running across articles like this below:

https://www.infowars.com/posts/sidn...ots-in-key-states-with-a-vote-only-for-biden/

It would be very deceptive and despicable if it were true. Regardless of what the truth is, people will believe what they want to believe anyway.

I also ran across this meme. Apparently voter fraud is nothing new.

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Alex Jones, why anybody would take him and his website serious is beyond me. That meme is not exactly what Stalin is supposed to have said.

I consider it completely unimportant who in the party will vote, or how; but what is extraordinarily important is this — who will count the votes, and how.

The quote is a rough match for the words commonly attributed to Stalin, with the notable difference that the context is quite specific. Stalin wasn’t speaking of elections and voting in general. He was speaking of a particular vote by a particular body.
 

kinda

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So, it looks like Civil War 2021. This is just my gut feeling after hear after listening to all the chaos.

Donald Trump says, election fraud via China.

Joe Biden, supposedly backed by China, will probably ask for China's help in removing Trump.

Republicans say, another 4 years. Democrats say, Biden won, Trump won't leave.

Fights take place and blood on the streets, not like it isn't already happening now.

Let me know how this ends, it doesn't look pretty at all.

 

DJZawada

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Here is an update on the election. I didn't want to start a new thread as I see alot of arguing on the forum so I will just update this thread as to JAN 6th for those not understanding the electoral process.

What happens if Congress doesn’t approve of the Electoral College results?

ANSWER:

The presidency is decided in the House of Representatives with each state delegation getting one vote. The vice presidency is determined in the Senate.

PROCESS:

The U.S. code does allow Congress to object to electoral votes.

Here’s how it works: an objection needs to be in writing and signed by at least one Senator and one Representative.

Vice President Mike Pence will have all the authority as president of the Senate for that day and will accept or reject motions to decide the next steps by the assembly.

The votes will be opened and at that point, one House member could, and most likely will, raise their hand to object to the Vice President on the state of elector's votes. That objection could cover fraud or any other reason, and with the seconding of that objection, everything changes.

The House and Senate will divide for several hours to debate, then vote. The vote will be per Senator with the Vice President being the deciding vote if needed in the Senate, while the vote in the House will only be ONE vote per delegation, per state, not per House member.


The Republicans have 30 delegation votes compared to the Democrats with 20 delegation votes.

If this scenario runs true, President Trump gets re-elected.


"There isn't a ton of guidance about... what does and doesn't count as an objection," Mulji said. "Because these are internal rules of Congress, it's up to the houses of Congress to decide whether the objections are valid.”

That process hasn’t happened since the election of 1824.