Who is to blame for the latest Isreal Palestine war really ?

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HeIsHere

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You could nit pick any news source in regard to sensationalism at times.
Yes I can and do, it is a constant problem. Having said that this one is particularly problematic, the accusation of terrorism is really malignant.
 

Fundaamental

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Being in favor of a ceasefire doesn't mean you aren't still in favor of destroying Hamas. It just means you are in favor of saving hostages. Israel will continue their assault on Hamas when they have secured as many hostages as possible.
to be in favour of destroying hamas in Israel terms, is to wipe them out on the basis of no surrender, untill this not full proof objective is achieved.

I say not full proof because there is no way there going to wipe them all out.

Such statements are made with anger.

And such quotes come from Jewish people who follow the way of the old testament where God says I will wipe your enemy of the face of the earth.

Only God said that not the Jews.

So why should we take that literal.

And who is being wiped out hamas or the Palestinian people ?.

In case you've not noticed Isreal have just agreed to release 150 suspected hamas people from Jail's.

Well Cameron they where locked up for stabbings and murders on Jews suspected of being terrorists,

Now the Jews are saying no theese Palestinians where people just fighting..

Hmmm I wonder Cameron do you suppose the terrorists who killed 1200 Jews last month, where also just fighting ?.

And what happened to wiping out the 150 suspected terrorist from hamas ?
 

Cameron143

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to be in favour of destroying hamas in Israel terms, is to wipe them out on the basis of no surrender, untill this not full proof objective is achieved.

I say not full proof because there is no way there going to wipe them all out.

Such statements are made with anger.

And such quotes come from Jewish people who follow the way of the old testament where God says I will wipe your enemy of the face of the earth.

Only God said that not the Jews.

So why should we take that literal.

And who is being wiped out hamas or the Palestinian people ?.

In case you've not noticed Isreal have just agreed to release 150 suspected hamas people from Jail's.

Well Cameron they where locked up for stabbings and murders on Jews suspected of being terrorists,

Now the Jews are saying no theese Palestinians where people just fighting..

Hmmm I wonder Cameron do you suppose the terrorists who killed 1200 Jews last month, where also just fighting ?.

And what happened to wiping out the 150 suspected terrorist from hamas ?
Ok...you are trying to manufacture a moral equivalency where none exists. Hamas has as it's stated objective to annihilate every Jew. Israel would like peace. If you don't understand this at the outset, your moral compass will be skewed.
I understand how someone is upset over the loss of innocent life. I actually laud such sentiment. I just believe it will continue and in greater amounts if the problem isn't fully addressed in the here and now.
The ceasefire is a good example of the difference between the two sides. Hamas wants a ceasefire to regroup and rearm. Israel wants it to save lives. One group is aided in their goals. The other is hindered.
And Israel can rid Gaza of all terrorists. This isn't the challenge. The challenge is to get a peacekeeping force in Gaza once this is accomplished.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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the latest polls suggest 67 percent of the USA want a cease fire, that would suggest your in a minority.

The truth.

People don't agree with the brutality then there also sick of the USA backing every war that Isreal conducts..
With God, I'm in the majority. I don't follow what the world thinks.
 

ZNP

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With God, I'm in the majority. I don't follow what the world thinks.
God is the king, He has set His throne in Jerusalem, and He says anyone have a problem with that come and take your best shot. When God created man with free will that includes the possibility of rebellion. This doesn't mean that rebellion is of God, it means that if there were no rebellion you could argue there is no free will.

So then how do you create man with a free will to choose God and love God and yet teach them about the dangers of sin and rebellion? You create a museum showing all the harms and dangers of sin and rebellion, lets call this museum "the pit of hell" where can see all those who chose this path and their end.
 

Fundaamental

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Ok...you are trying to manufacture a moral equivalency where none exists. Hamas has as it's stated objective to annihilate every Jew. Israel would like peace. If you don't understand this at the outset, your moral compass will be skewed.
I understand how someone is upset over the loss of innocent life. I actually laud such sentiment. I just believe it will continue and in greater amounts if the problem isn't fully addressed in the here and now.
The ceasefire is a good example of the difference between the two sides. Hamas wants a ceasefire to regroup and rearm. Israel wants it to save lives. One group is aided in their goals. The other is hindered.
And Israel can rid Gaza of all terrorists. This isn't the challenge. The challenge is to get a peacekeeping force in Gaza once this is accomplished.
Isreal wants peace ,, ?,

What planet are you living on,
 

Cameron143

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He doesn't even know what planet we are living on, I think this is a window into how clueless he is.
He's goofing. He's wrong and too emotional, but just goofing.
 

Fundaamental

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He's goofing. He's wrong and too emotional, but just goofing.
no I was serious,

Why do you keep trying to analyse my mental state.

What does it prove ?

To be even trying to psychologically analyse me in the first place, with what ever idea you have of my mental state, and then lean in that idea, only proves your type to make your mind up quite easily about anything.

We hear the us and UK always going on about protecting innocent people, but who's protecting all those innocent Palestinians,

Where hearing plenty of stories of war crimes now from Isreal,

And where hearing plenty of warnings from the US and the UK to Isreal

But yet the spectacle continues.

It's just basically one bullshit story after the next from Isreal.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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that was quite witty for you normally you find it hard to keep your wig on 😁
Oh I have a great sense of humor with sensible people! But not much can get me down today. My nephew was here for Thanksgiving and married his fiance the eve before. So we celebrated with a big meal yesterday. On cloud eleven. :love:
 

Cameron143

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no I was serious,

Why do you keep trying to analyse my mental state.

What does it prove ?

To be even trying to psychologically analyse me in the first place, with what ever idea you have of my mental state, and then lean in that idea, only proves your type to make your mind up quite easily about anything.

We hear the us and UK always going on about protecting innocent people, but who's protecting all those innocent Palestinians,

Where hearing plenty of stories of war crimes now from Isreal,

And where hearing plenty of warnings from the US and the UK to Isreal

But yet the spectacle continues.

It's just basically one bullshit story after the next from Isreal.
I didn't go into the psychosis of you or your arguments. I simply stated you are wrong. The goofing part was in response to the use of hyperbole.
Your source material is biased and inaccurate. You have a view of what is happening and you only accept accounts that agree with your supposition. Why you do so has never been my concern and I have never addressed it.
 

ZNP

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no I was serious,

Why do you keep trying to analyse my mental state.

What does it prove ?

To be even trying to psychologically analyse me in the first place, with what ever idea you have of my mental state, and then lean in that idea, only proves your type to make your mind up quite easily about anything.

We hear the us and UK always going on about protecting innocent people, but who's protecting all those innocent Palestinians,

Where hearing plenty of stories of war crimes now from Isreal,

And where hearing plenty of warnings from the US and the UK to Isreal

But yet the spectacle continues.

It's just basically one bullshit story after the next from Isreal.
Fair point, unless you are a licensed psychiatrist please do not try to analyze people's mental state.

I am a licensed Earth Science teacher, so I am licensed to analyze you not knowing what planet you are on.
 

Fundaamental

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I didn't go into the psychosis of you or your arguments. I simply stated you are wrong. The goofing part was in response to the use of hyperbole.
Your source material is biased and inaccurate. You have a view of what is happening and you only accept accounts that agree with your supposition. Why you do so has never been my concern and I have never addressed it.
through out the thread you've brought in to question me emotional state, and suggested my state of mind is effecting my moral ability to think properly.

I'm more mature and level headed than you think.

I never act on impulse and mull over any decision no matter what idea I get.



Even if I feal my idea is Good, never ever do I rush in and blurt it out.

I never ever say the first thing that comes into my head, I've learnt to deal with all of life's ups and downs for my self and others.

As for my sanity I keep active every single moment of the waking day.

I also rest on my morals because I can never expect someone to live by my very high standards and expectations,

So I keep my self to my self and live a quiet life.

So when you can stop being silly let me know
 

Fundaamental

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Fair point, unless you are a licensed psychiatrist please do not try to analyze people's mental state.

I am a licensed Earth Science teacher, so I am licensed to analyze you not knowing what planet you are on.
doesn't it go I'm not of the earth but I am in the earth 🥱