Who is to blame for the latest Isreal Palestine war really ?
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I was sort of afraid that some may not see that there is a huge difference in meaning of "Orthodox Judaism" when she began her thread and confuse the different movements in Judaism with Modern Orthadox . On page #6 of her thread I made that comment(my first post on her thread) in post #106 pg.6 she commented that she was "Modern Orthodox" which is dominated by Zionism https://en.wikipilledia.org/wiki/Modern_Orthodox_Judaism Anyway Modern Orthodox is "Secular" in that they see that Judaism should synthesize it's self with the modern world... (Joel Olsteen doesn't represent every Christians view nor does she represent every Orthodox Jew's)
In Orthodox Judaism(a lot of the videos on this thread) they are "Ultra Orthodox"(Chabad) and are "Anti-Zionist",(many other Jewish movements are also)... for instance in the video several pages back about BiBi and the Messiah,, Melachem Mendel Schneerson(Rebbi) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menachem_Mendel_Schneerson and at the end Rebbi Elhanan Beck are both Anti-Zionist... This probably strikes most Christians like "that's crazy how can Jews be against Israel/Zionism" but if you know why they see it that way it makes sense. What they think and believe is that "Zionism" would become confused with meaning the same thing as "Judaism" and become nothing more than a secular government(some see it as a sin). Anyway Anti-Zionism is a confusing word because it needs to be broken down by who the group of Anti-Zionist even are/is.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Zionism
There is a vast amount of Jews who are Anti-Zionist/state of Israel but that does not mean they hate Jewish people nor that they are against Jewish people having a safe place to live where they are not mistreated. Melachem Mendel Schneerson said once when ask if he was Zionist "if Israel is a state of Jews then I'm not a Zionist, but if it's a Jewish state then I am a Zionist"... So if it's just a state/government where mans laws govern it(state of Jews) then no,,,,but if it is "Jewish state" where the Torah is it's laws,guidance in decisions ect. (theocracy ruled by Torah/God) then yes. That's the dividing line between Orthodox Judaism in that they see that it's a kingdom that the Messiah will set up/rule when he comes not a place where Jews were sent by men(state of Jews).
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I understand that Zionist Jews will cause death to many orthodox Jews, and so the orthodox Jews are very fearful of the Zionist movement in Isreal.
It's make sense because there has been an increase in hate crimes of Jews around the world, even tho there not Zionists, people are viewing them that way. The fear is people are starting to develop A Jewish phobia from orthodox Jews I believe who really just want to live in peace with all people
It's make sense because there has been an increase in hate crimes of Jews around the world, even tho there not Zionists, people are viewing them that way. The fear is people are starting to develop A Jewish phobia from orthodox Jews I believe who really just want to live in peace with all people
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The heskem haavara was an agreement that probably drove the biggest wedge between Judaism and Zionism in that Jews understood that AH was not smart enough to understand one Jew from the other and would move against them "all" (lump them together) before it was over. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement
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im torn between two sides of the coin to be honest,
In the last week the BBC have not reported on any more violence in Gazza despite an increase in 24 hour periods of deaths.
Just one week ago it was reported that meta had censored over 60 countries from reporting any more detailed reports of Gazza.
The BBCs last report, indicated an excuse for them no longer reporting which was there's been an increase in Jewish hate crimes in our country the same day meta censored 60 countries.
All tho they never said this was an excuse to stop reporting, they haven't reported that much since then.
I guess the BBC was telling us they have been censored again. But not telling us indirectly they believe it to be a just decision
Meta also remove content that day of many social platforms where there was no animosity or anti Jewish behaviour , then we find Al Jazeera being one of few broadcasters still reporting.
The latest reports says over 30 Al Jazeera reporters have been killed.
After watching the leader of foreign affairs for Isreal address the United nation live, I'm still in shock of how much evil was in that man's eyes.
I feel the zioniism movement has one major fault that it uses anti discrimination to much.
Lates news just in, biden won't win this year you'll see.
In the last week the BBC have not reported on any more violence in Gazza despite an increase in 24 hour periods of deaths.
Just one week ago it was reported that meta had censored over 60 countries from reporting any more detailed reports of Gazza.
The BBCs last report, indicated an excuse for them no longer reporting which was there's been an increase in Jewish hate crimes in our country the same day meta censored 60 countries.
All tho they never said this was an excuse to stop reporting, they haven't reported that much since then.
I guess the BBC was telling us they have been censored again. But not telling us indirectly they believe it to be a just decision
Meta also remove content that day of many social platforms where there was no animosity or anti Jewish behaviour , then we find Al Jazeera being one of few broadcasters still reporting.
The latest reports says over 30 Al Jazeera reporters have been killed.
After watching the leader of foreign affairs for Isreal address the United nation live, I'm still in shock of how much evil was in that man's eyes.
I feel the zioniism movement has one major fault that it uses anti discrimination to much.
Lates news just in, biden won't win this year you'll see.
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Live David Cameron ex priminister being quizzed right now as of this moment on the Isreal war who is now the foreign secretary
https://www.youtube.com/live/Lu-LBt3Vdfc?si=SSyHh3gpb9V5On-T
https://www.youtube.com/live/Lu-LBt3Vdfc?si=SSyHh3gpb9V5On-T
All I can say is this: We are told to pray for Israel and Judah. We are told to bless Israel and Judah. God will NOT let them be totally destroyed.
Genesis 12:3 I will bless those who bless you, and him who dishonors you I will curse, and in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed. (ASV)
Exo 17:15 -16 And Moses built an altar, and called the name of it Jehovah-nissi: For he said, Because the LORD has sworn that the LORD will have war with Amalek from generation to generation.
It won't stop until Yeshua returns! HE will be their peace! Pray for the people of Israel that they turn TO Yeshua and away from Remphan, removing that star from their flag and everything else, and stop worshiping the boar and budda!!! If they don't, they will be seriously judged! MORE than anyone else! why? Because they are supposed to be the world's example in worshiping YHWH!!!
I was watching the various videos taken that fateful day.... watching as young people danced before the statues of budda and the boar of tamuz... I was appalled! They are STILL worshipping the paganism of babylon.
Exo 23:23-24 For mine Angel shall go before thee, and bring thee in unto the Amorites, and the Hittites, and the Perizzites, and the Canaanites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites: and I will cut them off.
Thou shalt NOT bow down to their gods, nor serve them, nor do after their works: but thou shalt utterly overthrow them, and quite break down their images.
And yet they have.... and continue to do so.
Proverb 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.
Seems they haven't done that....
Yet Adonai is in charge... NOT man. What has and will happen, is HIS plan. and there's not thing one we can do about it.
Exo 23:30-33 By little and little I will drive them out from before thee, until you be increased, and inherit the land. And I will set your bounds from the Red sea even unto the sea of the Philistines, and from the desert unto the river: for I will deliver the inhabitants of the land into your hand; and you shalt drive them out before you. You shall make NO covenant with them, nor with their gods. (Remphan star on their flag and the boar) They shall NOT dwell in thy land, lest they make you sin against me: for if you serve their gods, it will surely be a snare unto thee.
Genesis 12:3 I will bless those who bless you, and him who dishonors you I will curse, and in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed. (ASV)
Exo 17:15 -16 And Moses built an altar, and called the name of it Jehovah-nissi: For he said, Because the LORD has sworn that the LORD will have war with Amalek from generation to generation.
It won't stop until Yeshua returns! HE will be their peace! Pray for the people of Israel that they turn TO Yeshua and away from Remphan, removing that star from their flag and everything else, and stop worshiping the boar and budda!!! If they don't, they will be seriously judged! MORE than anyone else! why? Because they are supposed to be the world's example in worshiping YHWH!!!
I was watching the various videos taken that fateful day.... watching as young people danced before the statues of budda and the boar of tamuz... I was appalled! They are STILL worshipping the paganism of babylon.
Exo 23:23-24 For mine Angel shall go before thee, and bring thee in unto the Amorites, and the Hittites, and the Perizzites, and the Canaanites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites: and I will cut them off.
Thou shalt NOT bow down to their gods, nor serve them, nor do after their works: but thou shalt utterly overthrow them, and quite break down their images.
And yet they have.... and continue to do so.
Proverb 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.
Seems they haven't done that....
Yet Adonai is in charge... NOT man. What has and will happen, is HIS plan. and there's not thing one we can do about it.
Exo 23:30-33 By little and little I will drive them out from before thee, until you be increased, and inherit the land. And I will set your bounds from the Red sea even unto the sea of the Philistines, and from the desert unto the river: for I will deliver the inhabitants of the land into your hand; and you shalt drive them out before you. You shall make NO covenant with them, nor with their gods. (Remphan star on their flag and the boar) They shall NOT dwell in thy land, lest they make you sin against me: for if you serve their gods, it will surely be a snare unto thee.
