Who is to blame for the latest Isreal Palestine war really ?

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if you want.to get technical with names, why did God give esau a promise separate to Jacob and why did God call the sons of Esau the Edomites.

Let's see what your answer is.



Genesis 27 verse 39

39 Isaac his father answered him,
“Behold, your dwelling will be of the fatness of the earth,
and of the dew of the sky from above.


Genesis 36 verses 6 - 9

6 Esau took his wives, his sons, his daughters, and all the members of his household, with his livestock, all his animals, and all his possessions, which he had gathered in the land of Canaan, and went into a land away from his brother Jacob. 7 For their substance was too great for them to dwell together, and the land of their travels couldn’t bear them because of their livestock. 8 Esau lived in the hill country of Seir. Esau is Edom.
9 This is the history of the generations of Esau the father of the Edomites in the hill country of Seir:

Deuteronomy 2 verse 5

5 Don’t contend with them; for I will not give you any of their land, no, not so much as for the sole of the foot to tread on, because I have given Mount Seir to Esau for a possession.

I gave to Isaac Jacob and Esau: and I gave to Esau Mount Seir, to possess it. Jacob and his children went down into Egypt.
I don't see an answer @wolfwint

Another question is why Did God tell the Israelites Jacobs sons, to not step one foot on there brothers lands, Isaac sons, don't forget Isaac was Jacobs twin.

God said to Jacobs sons do not even tread one foot on your brother's lands, and sent them down into Egypt.
 
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Of course as well @wolfwint the Jews are in exile and God has said he will not speak to them until they welcome the lord.

So my next question is.

How can netanyahu say God will defeat his enemies, and the Palestine people are the amelek ?

According to scripture God will not speak to the Jews untill They welcome the lord.

So who is netanyahu hearing from, is it God
 
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This charge of genocide looks like a complete scam to me.

Who exactly has been charged with genocide, is it the whole of Isreal, ?

In which case it will never be proven.

Should it not be the leader of Isreal should be charged with genocide, and by now we should have a mug shot of his face, with a number attached to it, you know like all people do who get charged with a crime.

I'm confused really hopefully someone can explain it to me
 

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Of course as well @wolfwint the Jews are in exile and God has said he will not speak to them until they welcome the lord.

So my next question is.

How can netanyahu say God will defeat his enemies, and the Palestine people are the amelek ?

According to scripture God will not speak to the Jews untill They welcome the lord.

So who is netanyahu hearing from, is it God
Maby we should go back to the question of this thread:Who is to blame for the lastest Israel Palestine war, realy?

Hamas and there supporters!!
They planed the attack from the 7th of october 2023 around 2 years ago.
They missused the financial support which was given for the palastine people. And put this Support for this huge tunnel System and his Infrastructur.
They planed this cruel attack in the full knowledge that Israel would strike back and many many palastine civilian would die.
They killed, raped and hostaged woman, children without looking to their age. They killed people which were involved to support the palastine civilians.
They used civilian places like hospitals, schools and mosques for weapon Depots and attacking from there with missiles Israel places.
Present they occupy around 60% of the aid which is given for free to the palastine civilians and sell it to them for to make money.

You are asking who is to blame?
 
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Maby we should go back to the question of this thread:Who is to blame for the lastest Israel Palestine war, realy?

Hamas and there supporters!!
They planed the attack from the 7th of october 2023 around 2 years ago.
They missused the financial support which was given for the palastine people. And put this Support for this huge tunnel System and his Infrastructur.
They planed this cruel attack in the full knowledge that Israel would strike back and many many palastine civilian would die.
They killed, raped and hostaged woman, children without looking to their age. They killed people which were involved to support the palastine civilians.
They used civilian places like hospitals, schools and mosques for weapon Depots and attacking from there with missiles Israel places.
Present they occupy around 60% of the aid which is given for free to the palastine civilians and sell it to them for to make money.

You are asking who is to blame?
. No answers to three questions huh?.

And you complain.nobody answers your questions, talk about a kick in a teeth 😃
 

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Maby we should go back to the question of this thread:Who is to blame for the lastest Israel Palestine war, realy?

Hamas and there supporters!!
They planed the attack from the 7th of october 2023 around 2 years ago.
They missused the financial support which was given for the palastine people. And put this Support for this huge tunnel System and his Infrastructur.
They planed this cruel attack in the full knowledge that Israel would strike back and many many palastine civilian would die.
They killed, raped and hostaged woman, children without looking to their age. They killed people which were involved to support the palastine civilians.
They used civilian places like hospitals, schools and mosques for weapon Depots and attacking from there with missiles Israel places.
Present they occupy around 60% of the aid which is given for free to the palastine civilians and sell it to them for to make money.

You are asking who is to blame?

Well you sure wouldn't know by this American ice cream eating president. Not a word about the hostages still not recovered, not one!! If this were on Trumps watch they would scream night and day how inhumane he is. smh
 
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Mean while 8 hours ago biden admits Israel actions have gone over the top



Mean while Isreal plans to attack the rafaa crossing at Egypt where 1.5 million Palestine people have fled to.

Also Isreal once again rejects a peace deal,

All the signs are indicating Isreal are using hamas as a means to depopulate Gazza and further evidence now exists they are well and truly guilty of genocide, and that soon an order will come for them to cease fire from NATO, or suffer force to make them stop, and for the USA and uk to have sanctions, to not provide Isreal with anymore weapons,

 
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Let's see how much of a word means to the USA, and let's remember what they said, because there request has just been broken.



First request and legislation broken



New legislation broken




New request broken

 
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This was the peace deal offered to Isreal by the USA on behalf of Palestine.

So Isreal staying there carrying on with the war because of the hostages is false

Also the USA proposed a deal that would see All surrounding countries would be included in a peace deal.

 

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Pro-Palestine Agitators Occupy MoMA Museum in NYC, Hang Genocidal Message | The Gateway Pundit | by Margaret Flavin

Pro-Palestine agitators took over the Museum of Modern Art (MoMA) in New York City on Saturday and hung a genocidal message from the top story amidst rousing cheers.

According to reports, at least 500 protestors entered the museum and demanded “divestment from funders aiding in genocide in Gaza.”

Protestors unfurled a banner with the genocidal slogan “From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free.”

The slogan is a direct attack on Israel and calls for the complete elimination of the Jewish state.
 
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Pro-Palestine Agitators Occupy MoMA Museum in NYC, Hang Genocidal Message | The Gateway Pundit | by Margaret Flavin

Pro-Palestine agitators took over the Museum of Modern Art (MoMA) in New York City on Saturday and hung a genocidal message from the top story amidst rousing cheers.

According to reports, at least 500 protestors entered the museum and demanded “divestment from funders aiding in genocide in Gaza.”

Protestors unfurled a banner with the genocidal slogan “From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free.”

The slogan is a direct attack on Israel and calls for the complete elimination of the Jewish state.
yep America has got a habit of causing people to want to kill each other, trump telling people to march on the white house would be one of them, and then trump admitting the USA are the founders of isis.

But I would be more concerned With what God's word says in Jeremiah 5, and that is, He will destroy Isreal, but not blot them out Completely.

I guess nobody would call God pro Palestine to, But in a way he could be in those days, I mean it's been reported there's a lot of Palestine Christians are dead too.

But hasn't biden encourage people to become pro Palestine people in the USA.

Personaly I think hes just trying to win your vote


 
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Trumps says he would encourage Russia to attack people who don't pay there bills. 😊

oñe day ago


Read the full article and watch the video

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68266447.amp


Trump says he would 'encourage' Russia to attack Nato allies who do not pay their bills
  • By James FitzGerald
  • BBC News
11 February 2024, 05:06 GMT
Updated 4 hours ago

Video caption,
Watch: Trump would not protect countries from attack by Russia if they do not pay enough into Nato
Donald Trump has said he would "encourage" Russia to attack any Nato member that fails to pay its bills as part of the Western military alliance.
At a rally on Saturday, he said he had once told a leader he would not protect a nation behind on its payments, and would "encourage" the aggressors to "do whatever the hell they want".
Members of Nato commit to defend any nation in the bloc that gets attacked.
The White House called the comments "appalling and unhinged".
Addressing crowds during the rally in South Carolina, Mr Trump said he had made his comments about Russia during a meeting of leaders of Nato countries.
He recalled that the leader of a "big country" had presented a hypothetical situation in which he was not meeting his financial obligations within Nato and had come under attack from Moscow.
Mr Trump said the leader had asked if the US would come to his country's aid in that scenario, which prompted him to issue a rebuke.
"I said: 'You didn't pay? You're delinquent?'... 'No I would not protect you, in fact I would encourage them to do whatever they want. You gotta pay.'"
A White House spokesman said the former president was "encouraging invasions of our closest allies by murderous regimes", and labelled the comments "appalling and unhinged".
 
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Mean while overnight bombing in rafah kills more than 100 people.

Now the word was the USA would not support this.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/12/midd...ah-ground-offensive-looms-intl-hnk/index.html

Israeli airstrikes kill more than 100 in Rafah as international alarm mounts over anticipated ground offensive
By Helen Regan and Abeer Salman, CNN
Updated 10:43 AM EST, Mon February 12, 2024

03:56 - Source: CNN
'A bird in heaven': Grandfather cradles 7-year-old granddaughter killed in southern Gaza
CNN —
Dozens of people, including children, have been killed as “extremely intense” Israeli airstrikes and shelling pounded multiple locations in Rafah overnight Monday, according to the Palestine Red Crescent Society, as international alarm mounts over Israel’s planned ground offensive in the southern Gazan city.
More than 100 people were killed due to Israeli airstrikes as warplanes targeted different areas of the city and helicopters fired machine guns along the border areas, the PRCS said early Monday.
The Hamas-controlled health ministry in Gaza said 94 people lost their lives. CNN cannot independently verify either number. The discrepancy likely exists because the health ministry only updates death toll numbers after bodies have been identified. Both groups warned the figure was likely to rise and the PRCS said people remained trapped beneath the rubble.
 
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Verified live all the latest bombings in Gazza and all the latest opinions,


Say hello to my two dogs shem and Japheth 🤗

 
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Verified news rafah last night. Aljazzera news, the same as BBC news only un- edited.



Remember USA and UK have said they would not support this.


 
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Verified news rafah last night. Aljazzera news, the same as BBC news only un- edited.



Remember USA and UK have said they would not support this.



Oops Youtube as just age restricted my video without my consent.

Well at least they never censored it 😊
 
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Meanwhile 40 mins ago Biden does the lying cough again. And they continue to give arms to Isreal

Claims from king Abdullah suggests over one hundred thousand have been killed now.

The USA are a joke and they said they would not support rafah bombing 4 days ago.


All the USA has to do is denounce it's Vito at nato, and the 126 countries in NATO can force a cease fire on Isreal.

It's an absolute Joke.