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calibob

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Governor signs Unity Bill regulating medical marijuana in Oklahoma




Law Alerts/Updates | March 15, 2019




HB 2612, the so-called “Unity Bill” which was approved overwhelmingly by the Oklahoma Legislature earlier this week, was signed into law by Governor Stitt yesterday afternoon. The product of the bi-cameral Medical Marijuana Working Group, it is intended to augment State Question 788, which legalized medical marijuana last year. The new law, which is called the Oklahoma Medical Marijuana and Patient Protection Act (the Act), is expected to go into effect 90 days after the closure of this legislative session — likely mid to late summer.

(co https://marijuanalinc.com/2019/03/g...ill-regulating-medical-marijuana-in-oklahoma/)
 

calibob

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I would call Partners in Hope B.C., Celebrate Recovery, The Salvation Army, Dual Recovery Anonymous, Alcoholics and Narcotics Anonymous grassroot movements rather than conspiracies :) Plus, they are all rooted in Jesus Christ as our Lord, savior, and King, acknowledging the One True God :D

One of our political parties here has promised to de-criminalize all drugs if they are elected, because keeping them illegal contributes to the horrible epidemic of fentanyl overdoses and deaths we are experiencing. Canada has recently made marijuana legal, and it has largely been treated that way for some time.
Well I used the word conspiracy to indicate that organizations and people are in agreement with the Basic principals of recovery like abstince is best. Often medications are needed. There is nothing wrong using them properly when dealing with certain health issues.

Many people often misunderstand mental health also. Mental illness is real, not imaginary. The brain is an organ that sometimes needs attention. In fact it's as important as the heart. We can't live or function without either. The head is not an empty void.
 

calibob

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I would call Partners in Hope B.C., Celebrate Recovery, The Salvation Army, Dual Recovery Anonymous, Alcoholics and Narcotics Anonymous grassroot movements rather than conspiracies :) Plus, they are all rooted in Jesus Christ as our Lord, savior, and King, acknowledging the One True God :D

One of our political parties here has promised to de-criminalize all drugs if they are elected, because keeping them illegal contributes to the horrible epidemic of fentanyl overdoses and deaths we are experiencing. Canada has recently made marijuana legal, and it has largely been treated that way for some time.
I retract it isn't always a negative word but in every case it requires a secret collaboration. Like a surprise birthday party. Cold be defined as a conspiracy. But none of the groups I mentioned are secret at all. I recant. :love::love:
 

Hillfarm

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"I used to really struggle with this. It wasn't until I read the middle of the second chapter of 2nd thessalonians. There it says something like, God will send them strong delusions and they will believe a lie"

So 2Thessonlians2:11 is about Marijuana?
Seriously?


It's about God sending delusions to keep people from Marijuana?

I think if you just want to get high... you should stop trying to justify it from scripture.
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It's not about me getting high but rather the entire post deals with medicine. Which part are you not getting, it cures cancer, the government is the only one allowed to use it, or the fact that people choose big pharma's poison over what God created?
 

Hillfarm

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What kind of cancer did it "cure"? Because I know a significant number of old pot heads that have cancer.
I think the problem with this theory is that there is not a way for pot to kill cancer, because what cancer is. Cancer is what happens when damaged cells attempt to reproduce beyond their capacity to do so correctly, thus the cell begins to hyper reproduce in attempt to produce good cells but only produces continually more incomplete cells. There is nothing in THC that can repair damaged cells, or stop the damaged cell from hyper reproducing so how does THC "cure" cancer?
The only plausible use for thc in cancer treatment is to boost appetite, and reduce pain.
Have those people taken the oil or looked at any any protocols on how to do so? The patent is for oil and I know of no one who got cured by smoking. Cannabis stops the cancer five ways as medical research has shown and it doesn't matter what type. The OP was about the patent, which in itself claims the neoplastic effects of cannabis and the American Cancer Society has also recognized it as such. This post is not to debate those facts but the conspiracy of why the government is allowed to patent a medicine, for something they say, has no medicinal value. Also maybe as a side note; Why would anyone choose chemo or radiation first, when medical industry is no more effective at the task, than they were nearly five decades ago? Chemo and radiation kill more people than they cure, the costs are astronomical, and both cause the disease most are trying to eliminate. A 2007 article in the Lancet published by British oncologist stated, people live longer, and more productive lives, doing nothing for their cancer, in lieu of chemo.
Logic and discernment tell me this is the real deception.
God bless
 

maxwel

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It's not about me getting high but rather the entire post deals with medicine. Which part are you not getting, it cures cancer, the government is the only one allowed to use it, or the fact that people choose big pharma's poison over what God created?

Your use of 2 Thessalonians to support your arguments about cannabis and "big pharma."




You're using a passage from 2 Thessalonians to support your argument in favor of cannabis, and 2 Thessalonians has nothing to do with any such thing.

There is nothing in the text to indicate it has anything to do with "big pharma" in any way at all, let alone with any specific issue of big pharma, like how they view cannabis.
(And your argument for cannabis is the ONLY reason you brought up big pharma. You ONLY brought up big pharma to support your argument about cannabis, and the biblical text says NOTHING about either big pharma or cannabis. NOTHING. ZERO.)

2 Thessalonians is a passage about the antichrist.

It says nothing about big pharma, or about cannabis.

You have to IMAGINE those into the text.

We are always CERTAIN to get off track if we take a biblical passage, and simple INJECT external ideas that aren't found in the passage... especially if those ideas aren't found anywhere in the entire bible at all.

This is called eisegesis.

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Locoponydirtman

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Have those people taken the oil or looked at any any protocols on how to do so? The patent is for oil and I know of no one who got cured by smoking. Cannabis stops the cancer five ways as medical research has shown and it doesn't matter what type. The OP was about the patent, which in itself claims the neoplastic effects of cannabis and the American Cancer Society has also recognized it as such. This post is not to debate those facts but the conspiracy of why the government is allowed to patent a medicine, for something they say, has no medicinal value. Also maybe as a side note; Why would anyone choose chemo or radiation first, when medical industry is no more effective at the task, than they were nearly five decades ago? Chemo and radiation kill more people than they cure, the costs are astronomical, and both cause the disease most are trying to eliminate. A 2007 article in the Lancet published by British oncologist stated, people live longer, and more productive lives, doing nothing for their cancer, in lieu of chemo.
Logic and discernment tell me this is the real deception.
God bless
None of that is true. There is no property in THC that effects the healing or repairing of cells, or killing mutated cells. I'm not a doctor but I know some, and in my line of work I've been inside MD Anderson more times than anyone ever should be, and I know lots of people who have been cured of cancer. You read an article from 2007 which is a twelve-year-old article. Things have changed a lot in the past 10 years. a few months ago I was having a conversation with a leading scientist in cancer research. hospitals like MD Anderson are rushing to catch up to the new science to the new technology, this is how fast it's happening. I have been doing structural remodels inside these hospitals to accommodate the new equipment for the past 10 years. It's hard to explain to someone what all goes into bringing the latest technology to these hospitals. And people are being cured at a exponentially greater rate than just a few years ago. Break threws are happening, and these researchers are passionate about curing this. I have met some of them, and they have zeal for discovering a cure.
 

Hillfarm

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Deception is rampant here, and there a myriad of scientific documentats of these facts, that THC cures cancer, worldwide. Want more knowledge Google "Granny Storm Crow's list". I'm not debating, what your welcome to research on your own. Also, anyone arguing that THC doesn't cure cancer, when the patent expressly states, this is one of the purposes of the patent, shows your level of intelligence and lack of knowledge on this subject matter.

I stand by my statement on deception and 2 thessalonians. Call me what you wish or label however you please. I'm just quoting from the source. It doesn't have to all be about cannabis. Russia Russia Russia is a delusion and so is people believing big parma's propaganda. There is no wall being bulit at the border or that white supremacist are the major problem with this country. I live work, and travel through all parts of Kentucky, a very rural and poor state. You would expect to find these types here, more than most places. In my over five decades of searching, I'm still looking for my first white supremacist.
These are all deceptions, and the OP, was only referencing one. This scripture means to me is: I see why those without the love of God, are easily deceived. I get my numbers from the American Centers for Cancer Treatment and their data shows cancer is still cured overall at the same rate. Yes certain types are cured better than before but there are many new types that are being found that are not being cured at high rates making the overall percentages the same.
God bless you all and may God's love surround you.
 

calibob

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I retract; Conspiracy it isn't always a negative word but in every case it requires a secret collaboration. Like a surprise birthday party. Cold be defined as a conspiracy. But none of the groups I mentioned are not secret at all. I recant. :love::love:
Typo Edits in green.
 

breno785au

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Do people realise the sickness and disease are a blight on a countries economy and it is not in the interest of any country to hold its people sick.
I believe that countries are big businesses, they want money, they want surplus so they have resources to grow and do things and people are it's main asset, without a generally healthy populace, without people working, a country is nothing.
Money spent on healthcare is money not spent on other resources that anyone would spend on something else.
But it's part of the human condition, and to keep the populace as healthy as possible, it requires money which could be better spent.
 

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Deception is rampant here, and there a myriad of scientific documentats of these facts, that THC cures cancer, worldwide. Want more knowledge Google "Granny Storm Crow's list". I'm not debating, what your welcome to research on your own. Also, anyone arguing that THC doesn't cure cancer, when the patent expressly states, this is one of the purposes of the patent, shows your level of intelligence and lack of knowledge on this subject matter.

I stand by my statement on deception and 2 thessalonians. Call me what you wish or label however you please. I'm just quoting from the source. It doesn't have to all be about cannabis. Russia Russia Russia is a delusion and so is people believing big parma's propaganda. There is no wall being bulit at the border or that white supremacist are the major problem with this country. I live work, and travel through all parts of Kentucky, a very rural and poor state. You would expect to find these types here, more than most places. In my over five decades of searching, I'm still looking for my first white supremacist.
These are all deceptions, and the OP, was only referencing one. This scripture means to me is: I see why those without the love of God, are easily deceived. I get my numbers from the American Centers for Cancer Treatment and their data shows cancer is still cured overall at the same rate. Yes certain types are cured better than before but there are many new types that are being found that are not being cured at high rates making the overall percentages the same.
God bless you all and may God's love surround you.
Interesting, since the IKA's headquarters is in Dawson Springs, KY.

As for if the Gov't SHOULD own patents, yes, but it's a rather big legal thing. https://www.upcounsel.com/government-owned-patents. The thing is they CAN own them, and do. As for weed specifically, seems to me there is some sound research going on regardless of who owns the patents, since patents are not even intended to protect the patent owner against "infringement", but to give them a legal recourse when someone is suspected of "infringing" on it.
 

Mii

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Well...

today I learned what shadow banning is. Ty @Oncefallen for letting me know that this doesn't occur on this site :)



Would be quite frustrating indeed.
 

Mii

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As to the OP though...I can't speak to Cannabis yet. Are you aware of Marinol?

There is some interesting info out there about it. I haven't looked into it in a bit, but as far as I recall when they tried to isolate they were unsuccessful. You know anything about it? @Hillfarm

You could "in theory" bring up synthetic cannabinoids as conspiratorial.
 

Hillfarm

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I dont believe in synthetic meds and believe them a form of witchcraft or pharmakia