spirit of jezebel has infiltrated the church

[PS]

The curse of the law is the condemnation it brings having transgressed it. The law itself is not a curse.

1 Timothy 1:8
We know that the law is good if one uses it properly.


Lawlessness is becoming a common theme here.

What was happening back then, and I think it happens today as well is that people were using the law to attain a higher degree of perfection than could be achieved by following the Gospel which is not ritualistic. What people don't realise is that the law is there to show us our sin, while the Gospel is there to save us from our sin.

If people use the law as a means of making themselves right with God then it becomes a curse.

 

[jimmydiggs]

What was happening back then, and I think it happens today as well is that people were using the law to attain a higher degree of perfection than could be achieved by following the Gospel which is not ritualistic. What people don't realise is that the law is there to show us our sin, while the Gospel is there to save us from our sin.

If people use the law as a means of making themselves right with God then it becomes a curse.

Galatians 3:13
Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it
is written: "Cursed is everyone who is hung on a pole."

Do you understand what this says?

 

[PS]

Galatians 3:13
Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it
is written: "Cursed is everyone who is hung on a pole."

Do you understand what this says?

It means that Christ bore the curse of the law on our behalf, which is why when people follow the law they are crucifying Christ again.

This is why Hebrews 6 says:

Heb 6:4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, and have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, if they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

 

[royalscot]

the spirit of jezebel has infiltrated the church. why, have you not toughed on queen jezebel , who infiltraited goverment. (1kings). took the mans field. i may add, she use the kings seal(ahab) on a letter, (it also possable, that ahab, knew nothing about the letter) and used to scoundrels to stir up the crowed, and got the field owner stoned under jewish law.

 

[jinx]

How do you know God didn't inspire me, because truthfully the thought about being faithful to your OWN husband as unto the Lord, just came into my head and bearing in mind the number of times we read in the Bible "the Lord said" and remembering that Paul used the pronoun "I" then perhaps my comment carries some weight.

And I am a Spirit filled Pentecostal, I see you are Pentecostal as well.

what does us both being Pentecostal have to do with it?

 

[PS]

what does us both being Pentecostal have to do with it?

1Corinthians 12 is important to me.

Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I would not have you ignorant. Ye know that when ye were Gentiles ye were led away unto those dumb idols, howsoever ye might led. Wherefore I make known unto you, that no man speaking in the Spirit of God saith, Jesus is anathema; and no man can say, Jesus is Lord, but in the Holy Spirit.

Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit. And there are diversities of ministrations, and the same Lord. And there are diversities of workings, but the same God, who worketh all things in all.

But to each one is given the manifestation of the Spirit to profit withal. For to one is given through the Spirit the word of wisdom; and to another the word of knowledge, according to the same Spirit: to another faith, in the same Spirit; and to another gifts of healing, in the one Spirit; and to another workings of miracles; and to another prophecy; and to another discernings of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; and to another the interpretation of tongues: but all these worketh the one and the same Spirit, dividing to each one severally even as he will.

For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of the body, being many, are one body; so also is Christ. 1Co 12:31 But desire earnestly the greater gifts. And moreover a most excellent way show I unto you.

 

[jinx]

I think Paul was playing it safe. The reason was that in the culture of the day women did not have the same education as the men and the services in the synagogue were in a different language (Hebrew?) from the everyday Koine Greek and because the women did not understand they used to chatter between themselves. Paul had to admonish them for it as we know and he also told the women to ask their husbands when they got home.

Paul had very good reasons at that time which are not valid today.

not valid for today? Who decides this? what qualification does one have to have in order to say...."take this part but that part doesn't matter?" That's playing with hell fire.
If it's good enough for Paul to say and follow than it's good enough for me!!! I wont be the one to tell GOD that I didn't follow instruction because I didn't like them. NOOOOOO.

 

[jinx]

1Corinthians 12 is important to me.

Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I would not have you ignorant. Ye know that when ye were Gentiles ye were led away unto those dumb idols, howsoever ye might led. Wherefore I make known unto you, that no man speaking in the Spirit of God saith, Jesus is anathema; and no man can say, Jesus is Lord, but in the Holy Spirit.

Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit. And there are diversities of ministrations, and the same Lord. And there are diversities of workings, but the same God, who worketh all things in all.

But to each one is given the manifestation of the Spirit to profit withal. For to one is given through the Spirit the word of wisdom; and to another the word of knowledge, according to the same Spirit: to another faith, in the same Spirit; and to another gifts of healing, in the one Spirit; and to another workings of miracles; and to another prophecy; and to another discernings of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; and to another the interpretation of tongues: but all these worketh the one and the same Spirit, dividing to each one severally even as he will.

For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of the body, being many, are one body; so also is Christ. 1Co 12:31 But desire earnestly the greater gifts. And moreover a most excellent way show I unto you.

nope, still don't get how this pertains to us both being Pentecostal. I wont change my view on things like women pastors because another Pentecostal says it's ok.

 

[PS]

nope, still don't get how this pertains to us both being Pentecostal. I wont change my view on things like women pastors because another Pentecostal says it's ok.

That's fine, I wasn't expecting anything else certainly not on my say-so. Years ago on the 'net' I read that the "treatment and downgrading of women was due to Jewish custom and Jesus overthrew many centuries of Jewish law and custom, he refused to follow the behavioral rules established by the three main Jewish religious groups of the day: the Essenes, Pharisees and Sadducees and he consistently treated women and men as equals by which means he overruled numerous Old Testament regulations which specified gender inequality. The actions of Jesus of Nazareth towards women were revolutionary."

When I read Genesis chapter one I do not see any inequality. I see that "God created mankind in his own image; in his own image God created them; he created them male and female. God blessed these humans by saying to them, "Be fruitful, multiply, fill the earth, and subdue it! Be masters over the fish in the ocean, the birds that fly, and every living thing that crawls on the earth!" (ISV)

I follow Jesus who washed the disciples feet the same as Mary had washed his.

 

[jinx]

BUT we can't take what Paul said who was anointed by GOD and disregard it because he wrote it to "that particular church in that day and age which had problems"
If that was the case then we couldn't take any of the epistles and follow any of their teachings of modesty, virtue, leadership, because in the eyes of some, it was only for that church.
we couldn't take this scripture for example cause it was written to Titus on the island of Crete.

Tit 2:1 But speak thou the things which become sound doctrine:
Tit 2:2 That the aged men be sober, grave, temperate, sound in faith, in charity, in patience.
Tit 2:3 The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things;
Tit 2:4 That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children,
Tit 2:5 To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed.
Tit 2:6 Young men likewise exhort to be sober minded.
Tit 2:7 In all things shewing thyself a pattern of good works: in doctrine shewing uncorruptness, gravity, sincerity,
Tit 2:8 Sound speech, that cannot be condemned; that he that is of the contrary part may be ashamed, having no evil thing to say of you.
Tit 2:9 Exhort servants to be obedient unto their own masters, and to please them well in all things; not answering again;
Tit 2:10 Not purloining, but shewing all good fidelity; that they may adorn the doctrine of God our Saviour in all things.
Tit 2:11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,
Tit 2:12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;
Tit 2:13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
Tit 2:14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.
Tit 2:15 These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.

or this passage cause it was written by Paul and Timothy to Colosse:

Col 3:18 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.
Col 3:19 Husbands, love your wives, and be not bitter against them.
Col 3:20 Children, obey your parents in all things: for this is well pleasing unto the Lord.
Col 3:21 Fathers, provoke not your children to anger, lest they be discouraged.
Col 3:22 Servants, obey in all things your masters according to the flesh; not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but in singleness of heart, fearing God:
Col 3:23 And whatsoever ye do, do it heartily, as to the Lord, and not unto men;
Col 3:24 Knowing that of the Lord ye shall receive the reward of the inheritance: for ye serve the Lord Christ.
Col 3:25 But he that doeth wrong shall receive for the wrong which he hath done: and there is no respect of persons.

or how about Peter? should we disregard what he said to the provinces of Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, asia, Bithynia in this passage?
1Pe 3:1 Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives;
1Pe 3:2 While they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear.
1Pe 3:3 Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel;
1Pe 3:4 But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price.
1Pe 3:5 For after this manner in the old time the holy women also, who trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection unto their own husbands:
1Pe 3:6 Even as Sara obeyed Abraham, calling him lord: whose daughters ye are, as long as ye do well, and are not afraid with any amazement.
1Pe 3:7 Likewise, ye husbands, dwell with them according to knowledge, giving honour unto the wife, as unto the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life; that your prayers be not hindered.

like I said before, splitting hairs.

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

well first of all i still can't find any reference to a 'spirit of jezebel' in the bible...it seems there is no evidence at all that there is an actual evil spirit associated with jezebel...

another thing i notice is that the term 'jezebel spirit' is most often used simply to silence any woman who actually stands up for something...i have seen people say 'jezebel spirit!' just because a woman was defending the scriptural truth against someone who was promoting nonsense...

finally as some people have already mentioned...not all forms of feminism are bad... for example i am the kind of feminist that believes we should cherish and cultivate femininity and be proud of the important role God assigned to women...

 

[KJVBIBLECATOWNER]

Someone asked about women being pastors, here is what I found:
The word pastor is only found in one place, Ephesians 4, a pastors job is to have outward rule and guidance of the church, women are NOT to have authority over men, if she is a pastor doesn't she have authority over men?
1 Timothy 3 speaks of qualifications of an overseer in the church, "man of one WIFE"
Teaching is an office of authority, as women we are to be learners, we are to teach our children and sisters in the faith, not men! If we do teach in any public setting it must be to other women, so a woman that is in authority over men is in disobedience to God's word.
1 Timothy 2:8-15
1 Timothy 3
1 Corinthians 11:3
1 Corinthians 11:7-9

These are hard words to hear, even for myself, but we absolutely cannot look at God's word and and say to ourselves, it doesn't really mean that, just because the way of this world has changed. God's word is eternal. When we as women desire to take the office that was given to men, we are activating the curse that was placed on us in Genesis 3

Again Care, I commend you for standing up for the truth, I have only met one other true christian woman like you, I too feel bad for christian women since so many are rebelling and being seduced by the lies of satan. Really you are my favorite christian woman here by far, keep fighting ( JUDE 3 ) and my love and prayers , Kristofor.

 

[KJVBIBLECATOWNER]

Easily the best christian woman here on CC, that Ive read. Bless you Carey.

 

[Monash2006]

I totaly agree with you Carey

 

[danschance]

It is true there is no "spirit of Jezebel" in the bible. There is only one demon name or title in the bible, that I can recall. Which is Legion. Does that mean all demons are called Legion? Does this suggest that all demons are called legion or are there many names for demons?

Jesus asked Legion for his name. This suggests that all demons have names and since Jesus had cast out numerous demon before this, we can assume that there are many other names for demons that are not listed in the bible.

No one is attempting to silence some women by calling them possessed of the spirit of Jezebel. In fact this thread was started by a woman and certainly is not against women. I have great respect for many women. In fact my own mother was one! I married the most beautiful woman on the planet and I have three beautiful daughters who I compliment at every turn.

Some demons prefer women to demonize and some prefer men, such as the demon called Baal. Those who are demonized by the spirit of Jezebel or any other type of demon, are not the enemy, they are the victim. They need help, support and our prayers.

 

[carey]

apologies for not being able to post this sooner, but today was the first chance i have been able to get to the library, anyway here is my response to some questions, enjoy

Differences between a jezebel/feminist and a godly/submissive wife:
Jezebel/feminist

· Seeks to have her own way and will use her sexuality to get it
· Refuses to submit under any authority, yet seeks authority over men
· Says to herself, I can do whatever I want with my body, amazingly this is also the foundation statement that many feminists and abortion advocates use
· Seeks power
· Master manipulator
· Controlling
· False modesty
Genesis
3:16
Proverbs
2:16-19, 7:7-27, 9:13-18, 12:4, 19:13, 21:9
I Corinthians
7:4

Godly/Submissive woman

There is actually a lot more involved with being a Godly woman, the main model I would like to use is proverbs 31:10-27

· She is victorious
· Her husband trusts her
· She does good for him
· She is honest
· She has strength and dignity
· Her husband praises her publicly

(matthew henry commentary)

· She knows her husbands mind, and is willing to allow him to rule over her
· She can be trusted, her husband respects her management over his affairs
· She takes pleasure in her duties (homemaking, raising her children)
· She fills up her time, she is not idle
· She is intent on giving rather than getting
· Governs herself by the rules of wisdom
· Law of love and kindness are written on her heart
· She makes it her business to please her husband
· Her loyalty is never in question
· She shows her love to her husband by accomadating herself to his temper, and not crossing him, she does nothing that would damage or cause him undue distress, upholding his reputation
· Others notice that he has a good wife at home
· She employs herself with womens business

Genesis 2:18

I will make a help-meet for him; a help like him, one of the same nature and the same rank of beings; a help near him, one to cohabit with him, and to be always at hand; a help before him, one that he should look upon with pleasure and delight.
She was made of the man, and for the man, there are reasons for humility, modesty, silence, and submissiveness in general and particularily the subjection and reverance which wives owe to their husbands
Man being made last of all creatures, as the best and most excellent of all, eve being made after adam and out of him, puts an honor upon her as the glory of the man

Psalms 128:3

The vine is a weak and tender plant, and needs to be supported and cherished, but it is a valuble plant
The wifes place is in her husbands house, there her business lies, and it is her castle
She shall be a loving wife as the vine, which cleaves to the house, an obedient wife, as the vine, which is pliable as it grows, she shall be fruitfull, bearing the fruits of wisdom, righteousnessand good management. Not bearing sourness and strife

Ephesians 5:22-24

Submission includes honoring, obeying, and a principle of love
Woman must do this in compliance with Gods authority, who has commanded it
The required subjection of the wife to the husband will return with abundant love, from the husband, which is her due

Titus 2:3-5

The older women are to teach the younger to be sober, chaste, to bear a good personal character, not to neglect her domestic affairs, or form uneasiness at being in her place, to be meek, yet have a cheerful spirit
Not to be sullen, bitter, uneasy around others. Where there is love this is not a difficult command

I peter 3:1-6

Wives must accept the authority of their husbands
Sarah showed abraham reverance and acknowledged his superiority over her
The greatest honor of any man and woman lies in the humble and faithful deportment of themselves
The man gives honor to the wife by giving her due respect, and maintaining her authority over the home, protecting her, supporting her credit, delighting in her conversation, and placing due trust and confidence in her

I timothy 2:12

According to paul, women must be learners, and are not allowed to be public teachers in the church. For teaching is an office of authority, and the woman must not usurp that authority over the man. Good women may and ought to teach their children at home the principles of religion
Adam was formed first, then eve, she was created for the man, not the man for the woman

I corinthians 14:34

It was not propper for a woman to speak, because speaking included teaching, this is a shame to her because she was renouncing her subordination and trading the rank of her sex
The woman was made subject to the man, and she should keep her station, and be content with it. For this reason women must be silent in the church, not set up for teachers, for this is setting up for superiority over the man

 

[danschance]

Here is something interesting...

HARACTERISTICS OF THE JEZEBEL SPIRIT​

The individual, operating under the jezebel spirit, begins to secretly spin his/her web by winning the trust and confidence of those he/she wants to control. He/She works undercover and does not want to be exposed. Once acceptance is established, he/she begins to use truth, seasoned with well placed lies, to clandestinely spin a web of deception and entanglement. Clever methods induce fear in others. He/She then draws power and authority from their fear. Such individuals have mastered a sophisticated ability to manipulate and control without physical force.

The Jezebel spirit is sociopathic. Behaviors you might see (3 or more):

* Refuses to admit guilt or wrong.
A Jezebel spirit is never wrong, unless it is a temporary admittance of guilt to gain "favor" with someone. To accept responsibility would violate the core of insecurity and pride from which it operates. When a Jezebel apologizes it is never in true repentance or acknowledgment of wrongdoing but rather "I'm sorry your feelings were hurt." Lack of remorse after hurting someone; they justify the harm.

* Takes credit for everything.
While a strong trait of Jezebel is to never take responsibility for his/her wrong actions or behavior, he/she also is quick to take credit for benefits for which he/she contributed no effort.

* Uses people to accomplish its agenda.
The Jezebel spirit lets others do its dirty work. The Jezebel gets another person's emotions stirred up, and then lets that person go into a rage. The Jezebel sits back looking innocent, saying "Who me? What did I do?" This behavior makes it difficult for even the most ardent truth seekers to pin one down. The Jezebel spirit is clever in its agenda.

* Lies.
A Jezebel lies convincingly. No one can lie better than he/she can. He/She can turn on the charm and make you believe blue is red. He/She always fools those whom he/she just met while those who have been victimized by his tactics stand by helplessly. The fact that Jezebel can look you in the eye and lie just shows how strong and adamant this rebellious and recalcitrant spirit is. He/She can also mingle truth with lies and occasionally contradicts self and when challenged - claims to have been misunderstood.

* Ignores people that could disagree with them.
A classic ploy of a controller is to ignore you when you disagree with him. This tactic is frequently used by leaders when someone doesn't agree with their plans, and they isolate the person by ignoring him/her. Some in these situations have been ignored for months, just because they chose not to be a puppet and say to every idea or whim. This puts the person out of the leader's grace and forces him/her to either "come around" to the leader's way of thinking or be indefinitely ignored. One is not free to disagree with a controller.

* Never gives credit or shows gratitude.
A Jezebel will rarely acknowledge another person's actions, not even for something that turned out to greatly benefit the Jezebel. He/She just cannot bring themself to say thank you or to acknowledge that someone else did something right. There are those who have gone out of their way to bless a Jezebel by being the catalyst of sending him/her on a trip or giving a gift. Yet never will there be a thank you. This again puts the controller in a position of power.

* Criticizes everyone.
This is a characteristic of a controller. He/She has to be the one who looks good, so he/she will quickly sharply criticize anyone who makes a suggestion or plan. Even though he/she likes the plan, he/she can only criticize it because the idea did not originate from him/her. Criticizing others elevates the controller in his/her own mind.

* Talks incessantly.
Many people talk habitually, but a Jezebel uses talking as a form of control. In a typical conversation, he/she does all the talking, whether it is about sports, the weather or the Kingdom of God. Because of this form of control, he/she is unable to receive input from anyone in his/her life. All conversation with him/her is one-sided. You are doing the listening.

* Spiritualizes everything.
When a controller is confronted, he/she commonly spiritualizes the situation, explaining it off on God. This prevents him/her from owning up to responsibility required of him/her. The implication is always, "You've got a problem; I don't."

* Is pushy and domineering.
A person with a Jezebel spirit pressures you to do things, seemingly ripping from you your right to choose or make a decision for yourself. He/She makes others feel as though they don't have enough sense to think for themselves.

* Is clairvoyant.
Many who operate with a spirit of control also have a clairvoyant spirit. A Jezebel has supernatural help in knowing and sensing information. If he/she uses this against you, he/she may say "I can't tell you how I know this. I just know it." This is not the Holy Spirit, but the help of a clairvoyant or familiar spirit. Clairvoyance may be defined as the power to perceive things that are out of the range of human senses.

* Sows seeds of discord.
A Jezebel will continually belittle another person in the most subtle way. The strategy is to "gain" control by minimizing the value of another person. It is common for him/her to tell half-truths to implicate another person in your eyes. By sowing these seeds, he/she hopes to eventually reap a harvest of destruction, improving his/her position of power.

* Commands attention.
A Jezebel likes to be the center of attention and doesn't like to see others recognized and lauded. When someone else is recognized, he/she will quickly undermine the person's accomplishments verbally.

* Is vengeful.
Since a Jezebel is never wrong, if you contradict or confront one, get ready to become his/her worst enemy. As long as you are in agreement with him/her, all is fine. But if you confront or challenge him/her, then look out. You are the target of his/her fiercest venom. A Jezebel will stop at nothing to destroy your reputation.

* Insinuates disapproval.
A Jezebel will often imply disapproval to those under his or her control. The controlled person feels no freedom to express an opinion, for fear of disapproval. This often manifests in a marriage or in a working environment.

* Knows it all.
A Jezebel is usually blatant regarding his/her knowledge of everything. Quick to express his/her opinion in any area, he/she leaves little room for anyone to point out the other side of an issue. He/she has made idols of his/her opinions.

* Manipulates through gift giving.
Gift giving is a form of manipulation a Jezebel uses that always makes you feel obligated to him/her. It also compromises the victim in speaking direct and confrontive truth. Naturally, not everyone who gives gifts is guilty of control, but gift giving is a tactic used by those who have a need to control.

* Is religious.
A Jezebel dwells in the local church but doesn't like authority unless he/she is in the position of authority.

* Withholds information.
This is a form of control. A Jezebel wields power over you by knowing something you don't know in a situation. In the eyes of a Jezebel, having information you don't have is a powerful weapon of control.

* Talks in confusion.
It is impossible to converse with a Jezebel in logic. One pastor wrote a six-page letter to his elders about a situation in the church. The context was so vague that no one was without confusion. This is a way to maintain control and domination. When confronting a Jezebel, the subject may be changed five times in one minute. Confusion keeps them "undiscovered" and unexposed.

* Volunteers for anything.
A Jezebel volunteers in order to establish control. He/She seemingly has endless (nervous) energy and eagerly looks for opportunities to be in charge of projects. Although he/she will work hard, his/her motive is never pure, and eventually his/her secret agenda cannot be hidden.

* One-upmanship.
A person with a Jezebel spirit will always upstage another person. He/She feels threatened by anyone who dares to steal the limelight or anyone who is a threat to his/her power and control. If you are with such a person and tell of your accomplishment or victory, you can be assured he/she will quickly tell of something he/she has accomplished.

* Sequesters information.
A Jezebel loves to be in control of information. If there is ever a situation where information is important, he/she will push to be the "first" to know it. He/She seems to know everything about everyone. Where he/she gets all his information is beyond comprehension, but he/she can dictate to you data and details about people's lives and actions in mass quantities.

* Uses information.
A Jezebel uses information as leverage for power and then shares tidbits with you, often things told him/her in confidence. This gives him/her a sense of power, even to the point of trying to impress people by "knowing things" that others do not.

* Is insubordinate.
A Jezebel never takes the side of the employer or a person in authority, unless it is a temporary action to make him/herself look good. He/she often will take credit for someone else's idea. His/Her main desire is for power and control. There is no conscience when an opportunity for recognition presents itself.

* Uses the element of surprise.
A Jezebel's main thrust is to be in control, and a large part of control is catching you off guard. Therefore, the element of surprise works well when he/she shows up a day early for a meeting, etc, etc.

* Attempts to make you look like you're the Jezebel.
A Jezebel spirit is difficult to pin down. If the person is near to being confronted, he or she will skillfully twist the entire situation, trying to make the innocent person look like the one who is attempting to control. As always, the Jezebel will do anything to look like the one who is right.

* Is ambitious.
The Jezebel has strong desire, but all for self. "I want what I want when I want it," describes his/her worship of self-will. A Jezebel leader will never use the words, "We have a vision," but rather, "My vision is thus and so."

* Is independent.
No one has input in a Jezebel's life. He/She fraternizes with no one unless it is to get you to "cooperate" with his/her agenda.

* Controlling and manipulative.
A Jezebel will manipulate you to control something you have that he/she wants and he/she will manipulate you very smoothly and conniving until you feel guilty in giving up what he/she wants. May it be money or any possessions that you have?

* Demanding.
A Jezebel spirit is very, very demanding in getting his/her way. They gain power by destroying others. It is like an adrenalin rush when they "win" over someone. They manage to get in positions of demanding, and are difficult to displace, once there. This Person is an "outlier" or non-conformist. Has their own way.

* Intimidating.
They can either be war-like in their personalities, so that they are intimidating,

Or

So "sweet," "perfect," deceitful, "timid" and sneaky; sometimes they can be very charming and charismatic.

* Gets very angry when interrupted in a conversation.
A Jezebel spirit will demonstrate anger in his/her attitude and voice when he/she is interrupted while he/she is talking and may even demand for you to "shut up".

* Blame others for her mistakes, errors, and sins.
He/She will not ever blame themselves for any error, mistakes, or sins in words or actions; but will literally blame someone else for his/her own sins. And be much manipulative in doing do.

* Dramatic and freely uses emotions to advantage.
While they can tend to be oversensitive themselves, they have no concern for the feelings of others. They are not sympathetic to their victims, and tend to play the role of victim themselves, in order to gain sympathy. This way the real victim is left stranded, and opposed by others if they ask for help. Being the center of attention really pleases them.

* Builds up and then tears down; stirs up or pacifies; is very negative.
A Jezebel spirit is probably the most negative person you would encounter in your life time. He/She is negative about everything in their life. People, situations, circumstances, and even in conflict. He/She will blame everybody and everything including his/her well being and everything else that is not agreeable with their life. He/She will find fault in everyone and talk very negative about everyone in their life including their own family. When he/she needs something from someone he/she will build them up - get what he/she wants - and then tear them down. Be very alert of this type of person.

* May use silent treatment at times or pout.
A great defense mechanism a Jezebel will use for control is the silent treatment. If things are not going his/her way he/she will ignore you completely with the silent treatment and pout until he/she does get his/her way. No matter how long it takes.

* May repent verbally, but not from the heart.
A person with a Jezebel spirit will not ever repent from the heart. They will verbally say they are sorry for hurting anyone but not with humility, or with a deep remorse for hurting that person. If they did; then they would admit guilt. And a Jezebel spirit will not ever admit guilt.

* Presumes God will not judge him/her - the fear of the Lord is absent - opening the door to his/her own destruction.
Each individual person has the freedom of choice. Everyone has the freedom to make decisions, to make mistakes, to think for himself, to communicate, to like or dislike and to express his taste and creativity. But those who control people are in worship of their own will and their own ways and do not fear The Lord. They do not humble themselves before God. They do not desire God's standard of righteousness and holiness. They only desire to control and manipulate other people with no desire of humility and truth. Their only desire is for themselves and for themselves only.

We all want to believe that the person with a Jezebel spirit is delivered. The person may seem "normal" for a period, exhibiting none of the classic traits. Then suddenly, without warning a situation will arise, once again with the spirit taking control and wreaking havoc over lives. Hopefully, true repentance will come. Only then will the person be delivered.

This is the time for both you and your spouse to discuss your problems and search deep into your hearts for anything mention above that could be the root of your problems. A Jezebel spirit is a killer in any relationship and it has no mercy. And both of you must be honest with yourself and each other in order for reconciliation. You both must be completely transparent with yourself and with each other in order to reach God and for His blessings being brought upon you both. If you cannot be transparent and honest with one another then you have nothing. Because then, you are not being honest with God.
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From:The Jezebel Spirit

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

Here is something interesting...

HARACTERISTICS OF THE JEZEBEL SPIRIT​

The individual, operating under the jezebel spirit, begins to secretly spin his/her web by winning the trust and confidence of those he/she wants to control. He/She works undercover and does not want to be exposed. Once acceptance is established, he/she begins to use truth, seasoned with well placed lies, to clandestinely spin a web of deception and entanglement. Clever methods induce fear in others. He/She then draws power and authority from their fear. Such individuals have mastered a sophisticated ability to manipulate and control without physical force.

The Jezebel spirit is sociopathic. Behaviors you might see (3 or more):

* Refuses to admit guilt or wrong.
A Jezebel spirit is never wrong, unless it is a temporary admittance of guilt to gain "favor" with someone. To accept responsibility would violate the core of insecurity and pride from which it operates. When a Jezebel apologizes it is never in true repentance or acknowledgment of wrongdoing but rather "I'm sorry your feelings were hurt." Lack of remorse after hurting someone; they justify the harm.

* Takes credit for everything.
While a strong trait of Jezebel is to never take responsibility for his/her wrong actions or behavior, he/she also is quick to take credit for benefits for which he/she contributed no effort.

* Uses people to accomplish its agenda.
The Jezebel spirit lets others do its dirty work. The Jezebel gets another person's emotions stirred up, and then lets that person go into a rage. The Jezebel sits back looking innocent, saying "Who me? What did I do?" This behavior makes it difficult for even the most ardent truth seekers to pin one down. The Jezebel spirit is clever in its agenda.

* Lies.
A Jezebel lies convincingly. No one can lie better than he/she can. He/She can turn on the charm and make you believe blue is red. He/She always fools those whom he/she just met while those who have been victimized by his tactics stand by helplessly. The fact that Jezebel can look you in the eye and lie just shows how strong and adamant this rebellious and recalcitrant spirit is. He/She can also mingle truth with lies and occasionally contradicts self and when challenged - claims to have been misunderstood.

* Ignores people that could disagree with them.
A classic ploy of a controller is to ignore you when you disagree with him. This tactic is frequently used by leaders when someone doesn't agree with their plans, and they isolate the person by ignoring him/her. Some in these situations have been ignored for months, just because they chose not to be a puppet and say to every idea or whim. This puts the person out of the leader's grace and forces him/her to either "come around" to the leader's way of thinking or be indefinitely ignored. One is not free to disagree with a controller.

* Never gives credit or shows gratitude.
A Jezebel will rarely acknowledge another person's actions, not even for something that turned out to greatly benefit the Jezebel. He/She just cannot bring themself to say thank you or to acknowledge that someone else did something right. There are those who have gone out of their way to bless a Jezebel by being the catalyst of sending him/her on a trip or giving a gift. Yet never will there be a thank you. This again puts the controller in a position of power.

* Criticizes everyone.
This is a characteristic of a controller. He/She has to be the one who looks good, so he/she will quickly sharply criticize anyone who makes a suggestion or plan. Even though he/she likes the plan, he/she can only criticize it because the idea did not originate from him/her. Criticizing others elevates the controller in his/her own mind.

* Talks incessantly.
Many people talk habitually, but a Jezebel uses talking as a form of control. In a typical conversation, he/she does all the talking, whether it is about sports, the weather or the Kingdom of God. Because of this form of control, he/she is unable to receive input from anyone in his/her life. All conversation with him/her is one-sided. You are doing the listening.

* Spiritualizes everything.
When a controller is confronted, he/she commonly spiritualizes the situation, explaining it off on God. This prevents him/her from owning up to responsibility required of him/her. The implication is always, "You've got a problem; I don't."

* Is pushy and domineering.
A person with a Jezebel spirit pressures you to do things, seemingly ripping from you your right to choose or make a decision for yourself. He/She makes others feel as though they don't have enough sense to think for themselves.

* Is clairvoyant.
Many who operate with a spirit of control also have a clairvoyant spirit. A Jezebel has supernatural help in knowing and sensing information. If he/she uses this against you, he/she may say "I can't tell you how I know this. I just know it." This is not the Holy Spirit, but the help of a clairvoyant or familiar spirit. Clairvoyance may be defined as the power to perceive things that are out of the range of human senses.

* Sows seeds of discord.
A Jezebel will continually belittle another person in the most subtle way. The strategy is to "gain" control by minimizing the value of another person. It is common for him/her to tell half-truths to implicate another person in your eyes. By sowing these seeds, he/she hopes to eventually reap a harvest of destruction, improving his/her position of power.

* Commands attention.
A Jezebel likes to be the center of attention and doesn't like to see others recognized and lauded. When someone else is recognized, he/she will quickly undermine the person's accomplishments verbally.

* Is vengeful.
Since a Jezebel is never wrong, if you contradict or confront one, get ready to become his/her worst enemy. As long as you are in agreement with him/her, all is fine. But if you confront or challenge him/her, then look out. You are the target of his/her fiercest venom. A Jezebel will stop at nothing to destroy your reputation.

* Insinuates disapproval.
A Jezebel will often imply disapproval to those under his or her control. The controlled person feels no freedom to express an opinion, for fear of disapproval. This often manifests in a marriage or in a working environment.

* Knows it all.
A Jezebel is usually blatant regarding his/her knowledge of everything. Quick to express his/her opinion in any area, he/she leaves little room for anyone to point out the other side of an issue. He/she has made idols of his/her opinions.

* Manipulates through gift giving.
Gift giving is a form of manipulation a Jezebel uses that always makes you feel obligated to him/her. It also compromises the victim in speaking direct and confrontive truth. Naturally, not everyone who gives gifts is guilty of control, but gift giving is a tactic used by those who have a need to control.

* Is religious.
A Jezebel dwells in the local church but doesn't like authority unless he/she is in the position of authority.

* Withholds information.
This is a form of control. A Jezebel wields power over you by knowing something you don't know in a situation. In the eyes of a Jezebel, having information you don't have is a powerful weapon of control.

* Talks in confusion.
It is impossible to converse with a Jezebel in logic. One pastor wrote a six-page letter to his elders about a situation in the church. The context was so vague that no one was without confusion. This is a way to maintain control and domination. When confronting a Jezebel, the subject may be changed five times in one minute. Confusion keeps them "undiscovered" and unexposed.

* Volunteers for anything.
A Jezebel volunteers in order to establish control. He/She seemingly has endless (nervous) energy and eagerly looks for opportunities to be in charge of projects. Although he/she will work hard, his/her motive is never pure, and eventually his/her secret agenda cannot be hidden.

* One-upmanship.
A person with a Jezebel spirit will always upstage another person. He/She feels threatened by anyone who dares to steal the limelight or anyone who is a threat to his/her power and control. If you are with such a person and tell of your accomplishment or victory, you can be assured he/she will quickly tell of something he/she has accomplished.

* Sequesters information.
A Jezebel loves to be in control of information. If there is ever a situation where information is important, he/she will push to be the "first" to know it. He/She seems to know everything about everyone. Where he/she gets all his information is beyond comprehension, but he/she can dictate to you data and details about people's lives and actions in mass quantities.

* Uses information.
A Jezebel uses information as leverage for power and then shares tidbits with you, often things told him/her in confidence. This gives him/her a sense of power, even to the point of trying to impress people by "knowing things" that others do not.

* Is insubordinate.
A Jezebel never takes the side of the employer or a person in authority, unless it is a temporary action to make him/herself look good. He/she often will take credit for someone else's idea. His/Her main desire is for power and control. There is no conscience when an opportunity for recognition presents itself.

* Uses the element of surprise.
A Jezebel's main thrust is to be in control, and a large part of control is catching you off guard. Therefore, the element of surprise works well when he/she shows up a day early for a meeting, etc, etc.

* Attempts to make you look like you're the Jezebel.
A Jezebel spirit is difficult to pin down. If the person is near to being confronted, he or she will skillfully twist the entire situation, trying to make the innocent person look like the one who is attempting to control. As always, the Jezebel will do anything to look like the one who is right.

* Is ambitious.
The Jezebel has strong desire, but all for self. "I want what I want when I want it," describes his/her worship of self-will. A Jezebel leader will never use the words, "We have a vision," but rather, "My vision is thus and so."

* Is independent.
No one has input in a Jezebel's life. He/She fraternizes with no one unless it is to get you to "cooperate" with his/her agenda.

* Controlling and manipulative.
A Jezebel will manipulate you to control something you have that he/she wants and he/she will manipulate you very smoothly and conniving until you feel guilty in giving up what he/she wants. May it be money or any possessions that you have?

* Demanding.
A Jezebel spirit is very, very demanding in getting his/her way. They gain power by destroying others. It is like an adrenalin rush when they "win" over someone. They manage to get in positions of demanding, and are difficult to displace, once there. This Person is an "outlier" or non-conformist. Has their own way.

* Intimidating.
They can either be war-like in their personalities, so that they are intimidating,

Or

So "sweet," "perfect," deceitful, "timid" and sneaky; sometimes they can be very charming and charismatic.

* Gets very angry when interrupted in a conversation.
A Jezebel spirit will demonstrate anger in his/her attitude and voice when he/she is interrupted while he/she is talking and may even demand for you to "shut up".

* Blame others for her mistakes, errors, and sins.
He/She will not ever blame themselves for any error, mistakes, or sins in words or actions; but will literally blame someone else for his/her own sins. And be much manipulative in doing do.

* Dramatic and freely uses emotions to advantage.
While they can tend to be oversensitive themselves, they have no concern for the feelings of others. They are not sympathetic to their victims, and tend to play the role of victim themselves, in order to gain sympathy. This way the real victim is left stranded, and opposed by others if they ask for help. Being the center of attention really pleases them.

* Builds up and then tears down; stirs up or pacifies; is very negative.
A Jezebel spirit is probably the most negative person you would encounter in your life time. He/She is negative about everything in their life. People, situations, circumstances, and even in conflict. He/She will blame everybody and everything including his/her well being and everything else that is not agreeable with their life. He/She will find fault in everyone and talk very negative about everyone in their life including their own family. When he/she needs something from someone he/she will build them up - get what he/she wants - and then tear them down. Be very alert of this type of person.

* May use silent treatment at times or pout.
A great defense mechanism a Jezebel will use for control is the silent treatment. If things are not going his/her way he/she will ignore you completely with the silent treatment and pout until he/she does get his/her way. No matter how long it takes.

* May repent verbally, but not from the heart.
A person with a Jezebel spirit will not ever repent from the heart. They will verbally say they are sorry for hurting anyone but not with humility, or with a deep remorse for hurting that person. If they did; then they would admit guilt. And a Jezebel spirit will not ever admit guilt.

* Presumes God will not judge him/her - the fear of the Lord is absent - opening the door to his/her own destruction.
Each individual person has the freedom of choice. Everyone has the freedom to make decisions, to make mistakes, to think for himself, to communicate, to like or dislike and to express his taste and creativity. But those who control people are in worship of their own will and their own ways and do not fear The Lord. They do not humble themselves before God. They do not desire God's standard of righteousness and holiness. They only desire to control and manipulate other people with no desire of humility and truth. Their only desire is for themselves and for themselves only.

We all want to believe that the person with a Jezebel spirit is delivered. The person may seem "normal" for a period, exhibiting none of the classic traits. Then suddenly, without warning a situation will arise, once again with the spirit taking control and wreaking havoc over lives. Hopefully, true repentance will come. Only then will the person be delivered.

This is the time for both you and your spouse to discuss your problems and search deep into your hearts for anything mention above that could be the root of your problems. A Jezebel spirit is a killer in any relationship and it has no mercy. And both of you must be honest with yourself and each other in order for reconciliation. You both must be completely transparent with yourself and with each other in order to reach God and for His blessings being brought upon you both. If you cannot be transparent and honest with one another then you have nothing. Because then, you are not being honest with God.
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From:The Jezebel Spirit

honestly these 'characteristics of the jezebel spirit' just read like a reverse horoscope for people you don't like...

three or more of those characteristics could describe pretty much -any- troublesome people...do you think they -all- have 'the jezebel spirit'?

 

[Widdekind]

"Jezebel" is trying to tame people, as pets. "Jezebel" wants people to be "beasts of the field", pack animals to do all the work, whilst "Jezebel" lazes around all day, on "Jezebels" global gulag plantation (anciently called Latifundia). Whilst "Jezebel" lazes around, drinking lemonade on lawn chairs around swimming pools, the domesticated humans (anciently called kine, or canaille) will lumber away, farming the fields, making the meals, feeding "Jezebel", cleaning up afterwards, so that "Jezebel" can be a Sloth.

That is the whole point & purpose, of "Jezebel", FYI. In modern terms, the movie Metropolis is not inappropriate.

"Jezebel" = "say 'moo' (or 'woof' or 'baa') **edited**"
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There is "suffering" in society, because "Jezebel" is trying to "break" the human species, thru application of animal domestication techniques, to humans-as-kine. (No, i'm not wrong.) According to "Jezebel", the utopian paradise of earth's future = Latifundia (look it up).

 

[Maranatha-TheLordIsComing]

"Jezebel" is trying to tame people, as pets. "Jezebel" wants people to be "beasts of the field", pack animals to do all the work, whilst "Jezebel" lazes around all day, on "Jezebels" global gulag plantation (anciently called Latifundia). Whilst "Jezebel" lazes around, drinking lemonade on lawn chairs around swimming pools, the domesticated humans (anciently called kine, or canaille) will lumber away, farming the fields, making the meals, feeding "Jezebel", cleaning up afterwards, so that "Jezebel" can be a Sloth.

That is the whole point & purpose, of "Jezebel", FYI. In modern terms, the movie Metropolis is not inappropriate.

"Jezebel" = "say 'moo' (or 'woof' or 'baa') futher-muckers"​

There is "suffering" in society, because "Jezebel" is trying to "break" the human species, thru application of animal domestication techniques, to humans-as-kine. (No, i'm not wrong.) According to "Jezebel", the utopian paradise of earth's future = Latifundia (look it up).

even in code an angel of light is revealed, "decoded," anyways this informs the world of nothing more than speaking ignorance as you babel along in mockery of issues in the church and outside and within us as Christians. Nothing that you've stated that was of any convenience. I think the spirit of anti-christ should be the focus and not just a crude princess from the books of Kings and with one other appearance in the book of Revelation. First of all to provide scripture with the evidence of this spirit's existence would be a more rather appropriate approach, not only verses that bring to light the very
snares that entangle our women; since this spirit is concentrated in the feminist movement. True, it should be an area that is well deserving of our attention and a problem of interest. Never mentioned, is her spirit living on as a demon or evil/unclean spirit of any sort, scripture-wise.