Is it really a sin for women to wear pants, men to wear a dress?
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Clothes are just clothes. God sees your heart and knows what lies behind the physical appearance. If you as a woman wear certain clothes in an attempt to draw attention to yourself from men then the motive there is not really pure, is it? It's one thing to try to look nice or attractive, but another to take things to an extreme. Same goes for men. God knows what you're really after and that is what he sees.
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Does kilts count as dresses?
It depends on the culture. For Christians, we are a peculiar people, set aside for God's purpose. The Word is very clear on this issue:Romans 12:2 (KJV) "And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God"
In Western Culture there are male and female styles of pants. During the Bible days it was a type of what, robe, burka? Common sense and the Holy Spirit guide my understanding (conscience) concerning these matters.
Christians are aware of what type clothing gets attention. For instance, if a man attends an assembly wearing pants so tight he can barely walk; with a sausage stuffed in his fruit-of-the-looms to make-up for a lack of endowment, his mind is carnal and trying to tempt another with the same state of spiritual weakness as himself. I agree, this is a little extreme but it makes my point.
Clothing always make a statement about the person wearing the clothes. It isn't the clothing, it is the intent by which one is attempting to identify. For someone gay, drag is okay, for someone female; a dress is still okay. The same applies to women and pants. If the woman is the pseudo-type male, the individual will dress in male style pants to state their position.
If a Christian dresses the same as world trends, they will receive the responses typical of that culture. Personally, I do judge a tree by the fruit it bears, and do the same concerning the cultural norms. I wouldn't wear a kilt under normal circumstances but do respect the culture that does.
As Christians, kilts and robes excepted, no it is not okay for men to wear dresses. It is okay for women to wear pants provided the type and style of pants fits the occasion in all modesty as becoming Saints.
It depends on the culture. For Christians, we are a peculiar people, set aside for God's purpose. The Word is very clear on this issue:Romans 12:2 (KJV) "And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God"
In Western Culture there are male and female styles of pants. During the Bible days it was a type of what, robe, burka? Common sense and the Holy Spirit guide my understanding (conscience) concerning these matters.
Christians are aware of what type clothing gets attention. For instance, if a man attends an assembly wearing pants so tight he can barely walk; with a sausage stuffed in his fruit-of-the-looms to make-up for a lack of endowment, his mind is carnal and trying to tempt another with the same state of spiritual weakness as himself. I agree, this is a little extreme but it makes my point.
Clothing always make a statement about the person wearing the clothes. It isn't the clothing, it is the intent by which one is attempting to identify. For someone gay, drag is okay, for someone female; a dress is still okay. The same applies to women and pants. If the woman is the pseudo-type male, the individual will dress in male style pants to state their position.
If a Christian dresses the same as world trends, they will receive the responses typical of that culture. Personally, I do judge a tree by the fruit it bears, and do the same concerning the cultural norms. I wouldn't wear a kilt under normal circumstances but do respect the culture that does.
As Christians, kilts and robes excepted, no it is not okay for men to wear dresses. It is okay for women to wear pants provided the type and style of pants fits the occasion in all modesty as becoming Saints.
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My Christian Sisters, as a Christian single male; that means heterosexual by gender, I love seeing (admiration, not lust) well-dressed Christian women in modest apparel; designer clothes in good taste. Keep looking good ladies; granny dresses "ain't" required to show modesty as a Christian. 
Holman Christian Standard Bible (©2009):1 Timothy 2:9; "Also, the women are to dress themselves in modest clothing, with decency and good sense, not with elaborate hairstyles, gold, pearls, or expensive apparel,"
Holman Christian Standard Bible (©2009):1 Timothy 2:9; "Also, the women are to dress themselves in modest clothing, with decency and good sense, not with elaborate hairstyles, gold, pearls, or expensive apparel,"
I would imagine a holy kiss was a kiss on the face showing philos love. Maybe the equivalent of a handshake today. I know my grandmother was from a different culture and her culture, everyone kissed everyone on the lips. I thought it was yucky as a child, which goes to show you how North American I am.
As for pants, I dare any man to wear my pants, which are shaped and cut for a woman's body. The only thing I regret about women's pants (except jeans) is that pockets are not usually part of the garment. I found that very difficult when walking around the long term care center, needing my pencil, my Iphone (for my Bible) and various other things. I finally found a sweater with pockets, which I used but the phone etc stretched the the pockets down.
I love to wear a dress, especially a long one. I have since I was young. To tell the truth, they are more comfortable than pants, but somewhat inconvenient to work in.
I do not think God will convict us on the Levitical laws, since they were made for the priests, and today, as all believers are priests. Jesus is called a priest after the order of Melchizedek in Hebrews 7. That means the Aaronic priesthood was done away with with the death and resurrection of Christ. 1 Peter 2:5-9 talks about the priesthood of believers.
"you yourselves like living stones are being built up as a spiritual house, to be a holy priesthood, to offer spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. [SUP]6 [/SUP]For it stands in Scripture:“Behold, I am laying in Zion a stone,
a cornerstone chosen and precious,
and whoever believes in him will not be put to shame.”
[SUP]7 [/SUP]So the honor is for you who believe, but for those who do not believe,
“The stone that the builders rejected
has become the cornerstone,”
[SUP]8 [/SUP]and “A stone of stumbling, and a rock of offense.”They stumble because they disobey the word, as they were destined to do.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light."
As for men wearing dresses - I just saw something on FB about Muslim men wearing dresses to support women in Iran. While I support the women in Iran against the Muslim injustices and the burka, these men were pretty terrible looking in dresses. So yes, I have a bias against men wearing women's clothing. Some things are hard to let go of.
As for pants, I dare any man to wear my pants, which are shaped and cut for a woman's body. The only thing I regret about women's pants (except jeans) is that pockets are not usually part of the garment. I found that very difficult when walking around the long term care center, needing my pencil, my Iphone (for my Bible) and various other things. I finally found a sweater with pockets, which I used but the phone etc stretched the the pockets down.
I love to wear a dress, especially a long one. I have since I was young. To tell the truth, they are more comfortable than pants, but somewhat inconvenient to work in.
I do not think God will convict us on the Levitical laws, since they were made for the priests, and today, as all believers are priests. Jesus is called a priest after the order of Melchizedek in Hebrews 7. That means the Aaronic priesthood was done away with with the death and resurrection of Christ. 1 Peter 2:5-9 talks about the priesthood of believers.
"you yourselves like living stones are being built up as a spiritual house, to be a holy priesthood, to offer spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. [SUP]6 [/SUP]For it stands in Scripture:“Behold, I am laying in Zion a stone,
a cornerstone chosen and precious,
and whoever believes in him will not be put to shame.”
[SUP]7 [/SUP]So the honor is for you who believe, but for those who do not believe,
“The stone that the builders rejected
has become the cornerstone,”
[SUP]8 [/SUP]and “A stone of stumbling, and a rock of offense.”They stumble because they disobey the word, as they were destined to do.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light."
As for men wearing dresses - I just saw something on FB about Muslim men wearing dresses to support women in Iran. While I support the women in Iran against the Muslim injustices and the burka, these men were pretty terrible looking in dresses. So yes, I have a bias against men wearing women's clothing. Some things are hard to let go of.
lets start by qouting dut 22:5
Deut 22:5
5 "A woman shall not wear anything that pertains to a man, nor shall a man put on a woman's garment, for all who do so are an abomination to the LORD your God. NKJV
This makes cross dressing a sin! God makes it plain that men and women are not to waer similar gaments, as this is an aboniation to God. God created men and women. And women were not created equal with men. The bible makes it plain that me are superior to women in many places. I wont go into those scriputures here because it would make this post too long for most people to take the time to read. BUt lets look at the command.
this verse makes it plain that women are not to wear clothing that men wear. and vise versa. there is to be a distinct differance in the way that men and women dress! And as men are the superior, they decide what shall be masculine dress, and feminim dress. Men wear blue jeans. thus women should not wear blue jeans! men wear t-shirts, thus women should not wear t-shirts. women wear nylons, this men should not wear nylons. women wear dresses, thus men should not wear dreses.
for a woman to wear what her superior wears is an attempt to declare herself equal with her supier. this is an abomination to God. women want to wear things that pertain to men in our culture to make a statement of equality with men. this is an aboniation to God! Women need to put themselves in the place that God intends them to be in and not thnk of themselves more highly then they ought to think!
So yes this is a sin that God will put women in hell for. thus women need to repent.
elder.
Deut 22:5
5 "A woman shall not wear anything that pertains to a man, nor shall a man put on a woman's garment, for all who do so are an abomination to the LORD your God. NKJV
This makes cross dressing a sin! God makes it plain that men and women are not to waer similar gaments, as this is an aboniation to God. God created men and women. And women were not created equal with men. The bible makes it plain that me are superior to women in many places. I wont go into those scriputures here because it would make this post too long for most people to take the time to read. BUt lets look at the command.
this verse makes it plain that women are not to wear clothing that men wear. and vise versa. there is to be a distinct differance in the way that men and women dress! And as men are the superior, they decide what shall be masculine dress, and feminim dress. Men wear blue jeans. thus women should not wear blue jeans! men wear t-shirts, thus women should not wear t-shirts. women wear nylons, this men should not wear nylons. women wear dresses, thus men should not wear dreses.
for a woman to wear what her superior wears is an attempt to declare herself equal with her supier. this is an abomination to God. women want to wear things that pertain to men in our culture to make a statement of equality with men. this is an aboniation to God! Women need to put themselves in the place that God intends them to be in and not thnk of themselves more highly then they ought to think!
So yes this is a sin that God will put women in hell for. thus women need to repent.
elder.
G
Wearing pants that are DESIGNED FOR WOMEN ARE NOT SIN. Simple as that.
If you are going to say wearing pants are a sin then you need to be consistent with that and look at the times of the bible. IF it is sin do not women in the bible times wear robes too? Did not men wear robes? See the inconsistency?
Wearing pants designed for women isn't a sin.
Men wearing robes isn't a sin either.
Now if MEN are wearing a dress designed for a woman that is sin.
"A woman shall not wear man's clothing, nor shall a man put on a woman's clothing; for whoever does these things is an abomination to the LORD your God. Deuteronomy 22:5
If you are going to say wearing pants are a sin then you need to be consistent with that and look at the times of the bible. IF it is sin do not women in the bible times wear robes too? Did not men wear robes? See the inconsistency?
Wearing pants designed for women isn't a sin.
Men wearing robes isn't a sin either.
Now if MEN are wearing a dress designed for a woman that is sin.
"A woman shall not wear man's clothing, nor shall a man put on a woman's clothing; for whoever does these things is an abomination to the LORD your God. Deuteronomy 22:5
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by the way, the notion of equality between men and women is not a biblical doctrine. nor is it a scientific one! there is not one shred of scientific evidence that proves that men and women are equal to each other! There is a ton of scientific evidence that proves conclusivly that men and women are not equal to each other! this lie of equality is satanic. it has destroyed more marraiages than any other demonic doctrine to come down the pike. it is evil and we as christians should renounce it with the truth and work to bring Gods authority structure back into society. an athority struture that is clearly seen in the way God has made us. (eg men are taller, stronger and smater then women. I have scientific proof of these things!)
have a great day.
have a great day.
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You are not looking at the whole picture elder1. People in biblical times wore robes and things alike. Men and women BOTH were those types of things but yet it is not sin. Do you know how i know? Because certain things are DESIGNED for MEN and others are DESIGNED for women
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Good luck with that one, Elder. Men and women are equal in the eyes of God but are made differently and have different roles. Husbands are to be the head of their household but they're not superior to their wives, they're equal but different. They compliment each other.
Danschance, Ugg boots are fine if they're Autumn/Winter stay-at-home wear (as they were intended). Unfortunately, we live in a fallen world. ;P
Danschance, Ugg boots are fine if they're Autumn/Winter stay-at-home wear (as they were intended). Unfortunately, we live in a fallen world. ;P
Changed your mind several times in that statement.
You should either stick to what Deuteronomy says - or you don't. In your statement sin seems to be based upon your own personal opinion. You base your opinion on the Bible in one sentence and then ignore the same Bible verse in a different sentence.
You seem keen to flip-flop between what you consider sinful.
I'm also interested in which of the other parts of the Law of Moses you think we should all be sticking to.
Do you think, for example, that people with leprosy should be removed from society?
How about doing no work from Friday sunset to Saturday sunset?
How about killing a child that hits or hates their mother or father?
And eating pork or shellfish?
Must we stand when a person who has grey hair enters the room?
How about male circumcision?
You cannot choose to adhere to parts of the Law. Paul made it clear that if you bind yourself to the Law, you are bound by the whole Law (I cannot remember the quotation I'm afraid but I'm sure someone else will remember it). If you are in Christ you are not bound by the Law of Moses.
You should either stick to what Deuteronomy says - or you don't. In your statement sin seems to be based upon your own personal opinion. You base your opinion on the Bible in one sentence and then ignore the same Bible verse in a different sentence.
You seem keen to flip-flop between what you consider sinful.
I'm also interested in which of the other parts of the Law of Moses you think we should all be sticking to.
Do you think, for example, that people with leprosy should be removed from society?
How about doing no work from Friday sunset to Saturday sunset?
How about killing a child that hits or hates their mother or father?
And eating pork or shellfish?
Must we stand when a person who has grey hair enters the room?
How about male circumcision?
You cannot choose to adhere to parts of the Law. Paul made it clear that if you bind yourself to the Law, you are bound by the whole Law (I cannot remember the quotation I'm afraid but I'm sure someone else will remember it). If you are in Christ you are not bound by the Law of Moses.