There is no such thing as Sola Scriptura
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If Scripture is not our Final authority. We have absolutely no way to test all men to see if they are from God or not. And any man who claims to have power from god can change doctrine to anything he wants it to.
This is exactly how the jews fell to false doctrines, as the men who were supposedly put in charge by God and given authority, changed the meaning of doctrines, and added their own words through other written documents they considered equal with scripture.
This is exactly how the jews fell to false doctrines, as the men who were supposedly put in charge by God and given authority, changed the meaning of doctrines, and added their own words through other written documents they considered equal with scripture.
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You are guilty of evil. You have beared false witness against your neighbor. The Bible commands that you shall not do this yet you have in this very thread.
There is no such thing as Catholic idol worship, and when you claim that we do, you have done evil.
Please repent of this evil. Thank you.
You are guilty of evil. You have beared false witness against your neighbor. The Bible commands that you shall not do this yet you have in this very thread.
There is no such thing as Catholic idol worship, and when you claim that we do, you have done evil.
Please repent of this evil. Thank you.
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Are you so blind you do not see RCC members around the world giving gifts to statues, weeping in the presence of statues begging favor of them? This is happening right now all around the earth, where ever there are RCC processions carrying these statues of various Vatican designated holy ones. Here in Spain there is a Mary for practically ever city and town, and they compete for popularity. These are dead statues of course that must be carried by their worshipers, they neither speak, nor walk, nor talk, nor eat, nor smell, nor anything...............yet they are given all kinds of honors by people, not by God. One town has Mary as their Mayor. Do not call the brethren false witnesses, when they testify to the truth. You are either as deaf, dumb and blind as these statues, or you are simply unlearned of your own dogmas and religion. You owe an apology to loveme1 and you should confess to Yahweh, God the error of your understanding.
If what you say is true then i have done wrong, but if what you say is not true then you are guilty and not i.
I consider by matter of interpretation we are divided.
I have offered what Heavenly Father deems abominable, wicked and evil.
You have stated the catholic church does not worship idols.
now the pope is the head man of your religion?
This is recorded of him:
I consider by matter of interpretation we are divided.
I have offered what Heavenly Father deems abominable, wicked and evil.
You have stated the catholic church does not worship idols.
now the pope is the head man of your religion?
This is recorded of him:
I'm not apologizing. Instead, I'm calling you to repent of your evil actions as well.
You have beared false witness against your neighbor in this post and that is an act of evil. Repent.
Read my post on protestant bible worship here:http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/63478-do-protestants-worship-bible.html
The point of that thread is that it's easy to misunderstand what is going on if you don't have insider knowledge. To the uninitiated, it looks like protestants worship the Bible instead of God. Of course, protestants really don't worship the Bible. And Catholics don't worship idols and when you claim that we do, or that we worship Mary (we do not) or any of the other entirely false claims you make about the Church, you speak the lies of the devil and so commit evil in the presence of God.
Repent of this evil and ask God for forgiveness.
You have beared false witness against your neighbor in this post and that is an act of evil. Repent.
Read my post on protestant bible worship here:http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/63478-do-protestants-worship-bible.html
The point of that thread is that it's easy to misunderstand what is going on if you don't have insider knowledge. To the uninitiated, it looks like protestants worship the Bible instead of God. Of course, protestants really don't worship the Bible. And Catholics don't worship idols and when you claim that we do, or that we worship Mary (we do not) or any of the other entirely false claims you make about the Church, you speak the lies of the devil and so commit evil in the presence of God.
Repent of this evil and ask God for forgiveness.
It cannot be construed as sin to relate truth, and to teach those who are ignorant. We worship the Bible, the Bible is the Word, and as John teaches, Jesus Christ is the Word. There is no sola scripture mentioned in the Word, but what I have shown you is the same, and it is in the Word. You really should read It. Salvation is not in following dummies around carried on the shoulders of the ignorant, salvation is in believing Jesus, Yeshua. Believe Him, worship God...........
Christ is the head of the Christian religion, the pope is just a vicar. A vicar is a place-holder. He sits on the thrown only so that no one else can but has no power to change the policies laid down by the king.
The primacy of the pope amounts to this:
Whenever enough bishops get the stupid idea in their heads to change things, the pope's job is to put on his 20 lb hat and say "NO! Nothing changes." (After all, when a guy wearing a 20 lb hat says no, it means NO!)
Read this post: http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/63478-do-protestants-worship-bible.html
The point is of that thread is that if one doesn't understand or have insider knowledge of what's going on, it's easy to come to the wrong conclusions.
No offense intended but your understanding of Catholicism is nonsense. The religion that you think is Catholicism does not exist. Or if it does, it's some religion that I have never heard of.
It's been said that if the religion that protestant describe as being Catholicism was really Catholicism, Catholics would hate that religion as well and be the biggest opponents of that religion.
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No worries...the Holyspirit and the Word of God are indivisible, anyone who demotes the Word for tradition
and religion is a nut.(of coarse i meant that in a nice way
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[h=3]John 6:63[/h]
[SUP]63 [/SUP]It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
and religion is a nut.(of coarse i meant that in a nice way
)[h=3]John 6:63[/h]
[SUP]63 [/SUP]It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
I used to believe the same thing, until I noticed that the great majority of these "harmless traditions" are the mainstream part of church service and worship. Kind of like a replacement doctrine. As time goes by, more traditions are being adhered to, and less Scripture is being taught. For example, lots of folks will go to the worship service where they loved the praise and worship concerts, but flatly refuse to go to Sunday school. That's supposed to make them better how? More wisdom? More knowledge? More understanding? A higher level of maturity? A better prayer life? When they come with nothing, and leave with the same, something is wrong with what's going on.
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1. The pope is a man
2. A man is not perfect. nor will God ever force a man against his free will to do anything.
3. Due to points one and two above. Any person who claimed himself to be a pope from the 1st century till today could have easily changed doctrine and formed his own, God would not stop him. again see point 2.
Your following men, not God.
Scripture is the ONLY thing we have which can be proven to be given by God. Yes people do misinterpret it. but that is not Gods fault. and God will hold them accountable. but to place man equal in reverance to the word God spent 2000 years putting together is a dangerous thing. The Jews made that mistake. look what it got them.
2. A man is not perfect. nor will God ever force a man against his free will to do anything.
3. Due to points one and two above. Any person who claimed himself to be a pope from the 1st century till today could have easily changed doctrine and formed his own, God would not stop him. again see point 2.
Your following men, not God.
Scripture is the ONLY thing we have which can be proven to be given by God. Yes people do misinterpret it. but that is not Gods fault. and God will hold them accountable. but to place man equal in reverance to the word God spent 2000 years putting together is a dangerous thing. The Jews made that mistake. look what it got them.
I can provide you pictures of protestants praying to the Bible like it's some sort of god.
Before the Word was made flesh, the Ark of the Covenant was made flesh so that the Word could be made flesh. Mary is the Ark of the Covenant made flesh, Jesus is the Word made flesh.
There's so many levels to the Catholic religion that you so obviously have no knowledge of whatsoever. Instead of learning, you are just making up lies. Stop that because you are committing evil against your neighbor by doing so.
I'm not. You are. I have studied the Catholic Christian religion. You so obviously have not.
Before the Word was made flesh, the Ark of the Covenant was made flesh so that the Word could be made flesh. Mary is the Ark of the Covenant made flesh, Jesus is the Word made flesh.
There's so many levels to the Catholic religion that you so obviously have no knowledge of whatsoever. Instead of learning, you are just making up lies. Stop that because you are committing evil against your neighbor by doing so.
I'm not. You are. I have studied the Catholic Christian religion. You so obviously have not.