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If I don't like the content of a thread then I usually leave it without responding. That's all I am saying. There is quite a bit of bashing going on in here, and it isn't good on any level. Yet it probably won't stop just because you don't like it. It will continue just like all the other tons of threads about Catholics, and other denominations.
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Glad to see you have recognized the problem, maybe in time you will repent.
You give 'em a bath, sure enough.
So are Muslims, Jehovah Witnesses, and many of the deists of the past. What you believe about social issues isn't what saves you, and it isn't what determines who you work for. The Pharisees opposed these things as well.
Preaching a false gospel. Not salvation of the lord, but salvation of man's ability.
If you donate money for reasons other than the glory of God, then it is sitll sin whether it's in your pocket or in the offering plate.
"Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy and cast out demons in your name!?"
No, he has to havve you to get it done.
The devil ain't good on anyone, don't know why you would suggest it is.
Out the side of your mouth. This is so commonly an appearance of righteousness. When Catholics are a minority, they pretend to be nice and loving but when the form a majority they're happy to show their true colors.
Idolatry accomplishes nothing good.
This is where you're wrong. I've never claimed I am saved. You have judged wrongly here.
That being said, scripture does not teach that a person can continue on sinning so that grace may abound. Someone does not understand what they are talkin' about.
I've never said it, dunno where you're gettin' it from.
Works aren't meaningless, they just don't make us saved. Works will result from a new heart.
Look at you, claiming to be so good and righteous. "God, thank you that I am not like him..."
Not even on earth is it easy. Trials and tribulations abound.
I would think I'd be the one with a longer stint in purgatory after all that holy-roller talk you just gave.
Most certainly, God is very glorious. I expect to find that he will not be in many ways as I perceived. That being said, we can know what he has told of himself.
Sure, he's regenerated us for good works. Being made for good works does not mean that you can merit yourself to salvation.
You just offer up a bunch of menstrual blood to God, try it, but it ain't no Lambs blood.
You give 'em a bath, sure enough.
So are Muslims, Jehovah Witnesses, and many of the deists of the past. What you believe about social issues isn't what saves you, and it isn't what determines who you work for. The Pharisees opposed these things as well.
Preaching a false gospel. Not salvation of the lord, but salvation of man's ability.
If you donate money for reasons other than the glory of God, then it is sitll sin whether it's in your pocket or in the offering plate.
"Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy and cast out demons in your name!?"
No, he has to havve you to get it done.
The devil ain't good on anyone, don't know why you would suggest it is.
Out the side of your mouth. This is so commonly an appearance of righteousness. When Catholics are a minority, they pretend to be nice and loving but when the form a majority they're happy to show their true colors.
Idolatry accomplishes nothing good.
This is where you're wrong. I've never claimed I am saved. You have judged wrongly here.
That being said, scripture does not teach that a person can continue on sinning so that grace may abound. Someone does not understand what they are talkin' about.
I've never said it, dunno where you're gettin' it from.
Works aren't meaningless, they just don't make us saved. Works will result from a new heart.
Look at you, claiming to be so good and righteous. "God, thank you that I am not like him..."
Not even on earth is it easy. Trials and tribulations abound.
I would think I'd be the one with a longer stint in purgatory after all that holy-roller talk you just gave.
Most certainly, God is very glorious. I expect to find that he will not be in many ways as I perceived. That being said, we can know what he has told of himself.
Sure, he's regenerated us for good works. Being made for good works does not mean that you can merit yourself to salvation.
You just offer up a bunch of menstrual blood to God, try it, but it ain't no Lambs blood.
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I just want to add a few things to this and I pray we could all walk in love. We are all brothers and sisters in Christ.... ok so in all four gospels, Jesus never refers to Mary as "mother" rather He uses the word "women" correct. I feel Jesus says the word "woman" rather then "mother" because He knew there would be idolatry in the form of worshipping Mary as mother of God. There is another verse 1Corinthians 1: 10-17.. thats says it all.Pray and then read it and God will show you like He showed me. We are all still learning and we need to correct with love. God bless
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Hey, sis, as soon as I read your comment, this verse came straight to my mind:
[h=3]John 19:25-27[/h][SUP]25 [/SUP]Now there stood by the cross of Jesus His mother, and His mother’s sister, Mary the wifeof Clopas, and Mary Magdalene. [SUP]26 [/SUP]When Jesus therefore saw His mother, and the disciple whom He loved standing by, He said to His mother, “Woman, behold your son!” [SUP]27 [/SUP]Then He said to the disciple, “Behold your mother!” And from that hour that disciple took her to his own home.
Now, the way I interpret it is like this (not to say that I am right or wrong). If we, as His disciples, are to do what Christ wants us to do, then when He told that disciple whom He loved so much, “Behold your mother!”, then He was talking to us all. "And from that hour that disciple took her to his own home".
Just a thought. God bless.
[h=3]John 19:25-27[/h][SUP]25 [/SUP]Now there stood by the cross of Jesus His mother, and His mother’s sister, Mary the wifeof Clopas, and Mary Magdalene. [SUP]26 [/SUP]When Jesus therefore saw His mother, and the disciple whom He loved standing by, He said to His mother, “Woman, behold your son!” [SUP]27 [/SUP]Then He said to the disciple, “Behold your mother!” And from that hour that disciple took her to his own home.
Now, the way I interpret it is like this (not to say that I am right or wrong). If we, as His disciples, are to do what Christ wants us to do, then when He told that disciple whom He loved so much, “Behold your mother!”, then He was talking to us all. "And from that hour that disciple took her to his own home".
Just a thought. God bless.
That's a bit of a worldly response. Scripture does not support this comment.
We're told that not all who say they are Christian are actually saved.
Again.... Matthew 7:21-23: "Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’" - these are the people on judgment day who believed they were saved, but He will say to them "I never knew you".
You can't say that we are all brothers and sisters, as this is giving a false sense of security and does not help anyone that's on the broad road, when they need to enter the narrow gate instead.
We're told that only those who are born again will see Heaven. Being born again... which is the spiritual birth, where we are born from above.... saved by grace through faith alone in Christ's work. All who are born again are of the same Spirit, equally yoked and children of God, so rightly called brothers and sisters. Not born again by water baptism or any other thing, but sealed by the Holy Spirit and an adopted child of God by right of the new birth.
There is only one truth, not several. The most important one to get right is salvation and Catholicism teaches a different way to be saved, sadly. If a person holds to the Catholic way of salvation then they are being deceived.
Edit: Just to add.... when we are of the same Spirit (equally yoked) we are just that.... of the same Spirit, so we speak the same truth... we agree on the key truths.
We're told that not all who say they are Christian are actually saved.
Again.... Matthew 7:21-23: "Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’" - these are the people on judgment day who believed they were saved, but He will say to them "I never knew you".
You can't say that we are all brothers and sisters, as this is giving a false sense of security and does not help anyone that's on the broad road, when they need to enter the narrow gate instead.
We're told that only those who are born again will see Heaven. Being born again... which is the spiritual birth, where we are born from above.... saved by grace through faith alone in Christ's work. All who are born again are of the same Spirit, equally yoked and children of God, so rightly called brothers and sisters. Not born again by water baptism or any other thing, but sealed by the Holy Spirit and an adopted child of God by right of the new birth.
There is only one truth, not several. The most important one to get right is salvation and Catholicism teaches a different way to be saved, sadly. If a person holds to the Catholic way of salvation then they are being deceived.
Edit: Just to add.... when we are of the same Spirit (equally yoked) we are just that.... of the same Spirit, so we speak the same truth... we agree on the key truths.
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So you've got it right, and others have it wrong? And you're so absolutely certain of this? How about you get off your self-righteous high-horse and come to terms with the fact that there is a chance, no matter how slight, that you could be wrong. And whether you like it or not, SIS, I am your brother. Even if I am right and you are wrong, I will always see you as a sister, and I will always love you. Stop trying to be right all the time. I'm sure I read somewhere in the Bible that the self-righteous are damned. God bless you.
Seven - I speak truth according to God's word, not myself. We will be judged if we don't speak truth, so it's important for us all to not say anything if we're unsure.
Yes, scripture says we have to be born again to see Heaven. I testified that I, like many on this site, have been spiritually born from above, I've become a new creature in Christ. It's a supernatural experience, and is just as scripture speaks of. All who are born again are of the same Spirit, equally yoked, in God's family. Think about it... of the same Spirit makes clear we are united in the same key truth, we are the same. It's not possible for a person of the same Spirit to believe in a different way to be saved/a different gospel.
I could say the same thing to you.... How about you come to terms with the fact that you could be wrong"
If I speak from myself then yes, but I share truth from God's word.
You see, if I were following men and what they tell me... and trying to be seen as righteous through what I do then I would be classed as self righteous. However, I'm righteous by the blood of Jesus and I'm instructed to share truth with others, even if they don't like the truth. Why do you not like truth?
There's only one truth, not several. It's a serious thing if you believe a different gospel. We don't believe the same truth. If we were equally yoked (of the same Spirit) then we would believe the same key truth and there would be no conflict. I'm not talking about non salvational differences (like some Christians believe in a rapture and others don't)... these are study differences, I'm talking about the most important one to get right... which is salvation. This should concern you.
See, you did it again... you said you love me and then called me self righteous and damned to hell, then added God Bless on the end of the same sentence?
Do you know God's definition of a self righteous person?
Biblically speaking, self righteousness is the idea that we can somehow generate within ourselves a righteousness that will be acceptable to God. Without Christ a person can do nothing. The Pharisee assumed his acceptance with God based on his own actions, whereas the tax collector recognized that there was nothing in himself that would cause God to approve of him.
As a child of God I'm a lover of truth and dislike seeing others deceived and God's Holy word being distorted.
Just because I speak truth with a perceived level of authority, don't be deceived. I'm absolutely nothing without Christ. It's not I, but Christ that lives in me. It would be disobedient for me to not share truth.
Yes, scripture says we have to be born again to see Heaven. I testified that I, like many on this site, have been spiritually born from above, I've become a new creature in Christ. It's a supernatural experience, and is just as scripture speaks of. All who are born again are of the same Spirit, equally yoked, in God's family. Think about it... of the same Spirit makes clear we are united in the same key truth, we are the same. It's not possible for a person of the same Spirit to believe in a different way to be saved/a different gospel.
I could say the same thing to you.... How about you come to terms with the fact that you could be wrong"
If I speak from myself then yes, but I share truth from God's word.
You see, if I were following men and what they tell me... and trying to be seen as righteous through what I do then I would be classed as self righteous. However, I'm righteous by the blood of Jesus and I'm instructed to share truth with others, even if they don't like the truth. Why do you not like truth?
There's only one truth, not several. It's a serious thing if you believe a different gospel. We don't believe the same truth. If we were equally yoked (of the same Spirit) then we would believe the same key truth and there would be no conflict. I'm not talking about non salvational differences (like some Christians believe in a rapture and others don't)... these are study differences, I'm talking about the most important one to get right... which is salvation. This should concern you.
See, you did it again... you said you love me and then called me self righteous and damned to hell, then added God Bless on the end of the same sentence?
Do you know God's definition of a self righteous person?
Biblically speaking, self righteousness is the idea that we can somehow generate within ourselves a righteousness that will be acceptable to God. Without Christ a person can do nothing. The Pharisee assumed his acceptance with God based on his own actions, whereas the tax collector recognized that there was nothing in himself that would cause God to approve of him.
As a child of God I'm a lover of truth and dislike seeing others deceived and God's Holy word being distorted.
Just because I speak truth with a perceived level of authority, don't be deceived. I'm absolutely nothing without Christ. It's not I, but Christ that lives in me. It would be disobedient for me to not share truth.
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yes brother I see how you could see it that way. We all see things from different points of view. The way I took that scripture is that even while dying on the cross,Jesus was concerned about His family. Showing us that we should value and care for our family under all circumstances even in all our suffering and till our very last breath. Families are a precious gift from our God and we need to value them. But I dont see anywhere were it tell us to worship her or pray to her. Jesus was very direct with what He expects from us and Im sure He would have said if we were to pray to different Saints. In fact there was a verse that says why are you following Apollos and Paul did they die on the cross for your sins. Some people make the Saints bigger then Jesus and I dont think thats sounds right.
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I hope and pray all who come to this thread are able to distinguish between bashing and shedding light on truth. The RCC teaches against many of the teachings of Jesus, while claiming to follow Him.
It is not bashing to ask all to look at what they teach in the RCC, then look at the difference in the teachings of Jesus.
It is true, many become frustrated with RCC members who come here repeating the theological lines imposed by the RCC organization, however the root of all is the Love of our Savior.
One major abomination of the RCC is teaching the followers to pray to Mary, "Holy Mary, mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death," making her mediator between man and God instead of Jesus Christ, Who died for this privilege which was His in the first place.
RCC members have replaced the pagan gods with man-designated saints who represent each cause. Mary is given dozens of avocations. There is a saint for woman who need a husband, there is a saint for heart disease, there is a saint for winning at gambling, the list goes on ad nauseam.
These approaches to religion are taught openly in Catholic countries, and they are rearing their apostetic heads in countries where RCC members are immigrating en mass.
There is no manner of construing this post as bashing, since everything posted here is true. If the truth is bashing, I am afraid all who truly believe the Master are going to bash and bash and bash.
Sharing these truths is the fruit of love, not bashing. The truth from our Lord can never be construed as anything other than good, amen, in Jesus Christ's name, amen.
It is not bashing to ask all to look at what they teach in the RCC, then look at the difference in the teachings of Jesus.
It is true, many become frustrated with RCC members who come here repeating the theological lines imposed by the RCC organization, however the root of all is the Love of our Savior.
One major abomination of the RCC is teaching the followers to pray to Mary, "Holy Mary, mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death," making her mediator between man and God instead of Jesus Christ, Who died for this privilege which was His in the first place.
RCC members have replaced the pagan gods with man-designated saints who represent each cause. Mary is given dozens of avocations. There is a saint for woman who need a husband, there is a saint for heart disease, there is a saint for winning at gambling, the list goes on ad nauseam.
These approaches to religion are taught openly in Catholic countries, and they are rearing their apostetic heads in countries where RCC members are immigrating en mass.
There is no manner of construing this post as bashing, since everything posted here is true. If the truth is bashing, I am afraid all who truly believe the Master are going to bash and bash and bash.
Sharing these truths is the fruit of love, not bashing. The truth from our Lord can never be construed as anything other than good, amen, in Jesus Christ's name, amen.