Oneness

[jinx]

Hey maybe thats why i like reading your posts....no compound words

NICE!!!!!!Thanks a lot, I feel so smart!!!!

 

[PneumaPsucheSoma]

So what is it that you believe honestly? How do you see GOD?

I believe ALL the major historical God-models can be reconciled to the central truth of scripture, and I have the biblical exegesis to do it.

God embodied His divine subsistence in flesh as the Son, distinct from Himself in the created earthly realm. It was more than a sequential manifestation, and it was NOT another "person".

 

[Earlmayknowornot]

Trinity is a very intricately formulated doctrine with many details. But at least the actual doctrine is based on specific attempted inference. Your inference is just nebulous conceptualization with no real understanding of your own professed doctrine.

And you're confusing typology, allegory, metaphors, idioms, etc. with fundamental literal doctrine. So much for the redneck factor and "schoolin' someone".

I'd really prefer to be more reconciliatory, but Trinitarians generally conduct themselves in a manner that makes that... difficult. You're not really equipped to respesent your own professed doctrine.

Really, the Holy Spirit speaks like a person, The Holy Spirit can be grieved like a person. THe Holy Spirit according to the word has all the attributes of a person. Looks like a duck to me. The word became a man, Dwelt among us. Prayed to His father and worked miracles by the Holy Spirit. I think it's a mallard.

 

[jinx]

I too believe that the SPIRIT manifested HIMSELF in the flesh and walked among us.

 

[Abiding]

My tiny braincell has fun reading this stuff and pretending i almost get it
Never know maybe someday i will.

 

[Earlmayknowornot]

Jinx abiding are y'all being sarcastic. Opps big word. Webster will explain it. In love Robby.

 

[jinx]

I tell ya whats confusing, and that is believing that there are 3. And I heard one time that they was even trying to get Mary in that godhead also and it would be a quad.

 

[jinx]

earl, I am a oneness believer. I dont believe in the trinity.

 

[jinx]

awkward silence.

 

[PneumaPsucheSoma]

Pneumonia, If Jesus was and is God and there is only one how did He pray to the Father?

Where did I say what you infer? F/S/HS are all distinct, uncreated, eternal, non-modal, subsistence Deity. The Father is not the Son is not the Father (are not the Holy Spirit). They're just not three "persons"/one "being" as a Trinity.

 

[jinx]

you believe in 3 gods?

 

[Earlmayknowornot]

Okay, the molecular structure is determined by the polarization of electrons. These molecules are , by cohesion joined at the molecular base by the polarization of the electrons and also by there geometrical shape. So if you put salt on a cold french fry the salt will not stick. Does that makes sense.

 

[Earlmayknowornot]

Know three as one. The father, the son, and the Holy Spirit and according to the bible they are one and that is love.

 

[PneumaPsucheSoma]

Really, the Holy Spirit speaks like a person,

Attempted inference.

The Holy Spirit can be grieved like a person.

Attempted inference.

THe Holy Spirit according to the word has all the attributes of a person.

Attempted inference.

Looks like a duck to me.

I'm not concerned what something looks like to you (or anyone else). I'm concerned with what the inspired text actually says.

The word became a man,

Yep.

Dwelt among us.

Yep.

Prayed to His father and worked miracles by the Holy Spirit.

Yep.

I think it's a mallard.

Yeah, that's what conceptualization will get you.

Psalm 33:6 says "By the word of the Lord were the heavens made; and all the host of them by the breath of his mouth."

Lord is YHWH (not the equivalent of Son in the NT). So... Whose word and breath and mouth was it? The Son is the word, remember.

 

[jinx]

**** yup. now earl is using big words. I'm going to sit over in the corner with abiding and piddle my thumbs***

 

[PneumaPsucheSoma]

My tiny braincell has fun reading this stuff and pretending i almost get it
Never know maybe someday i will.

I could sit down with you and a dry erase board for 3 hours or less and you'd understand the exact truth about God's nature and creation.

 

[PneumaPsucheSoma]

you believe in 3 gods?

Me? Absolutely not. Trinity gets painfully close to that, though.

As I said, it goes back to the three omissions that ALL these views share.

 

[PneumaPsucheSoma]

Know three as one. The father, the son, and the Holy Spirit and according to the bible they are one and that is love.

That doesn't make them three hypostases ("persons"). And God IS love. Maybe you should start providing scripture instead of concepts. That's the whole problem with Trinity doctrine. It's a concept.

 

[Earlmayknowornot]

I could sit down with you and a dry erase board for 3 hours or less and you'd understand the exact truth about God's nature and creation.

yes, can't you see in nature. Look at the the atom grad. Protons , neutrons, and electrons. Three in one. The puter your typing on is three in one. It was created with knowledge, wisdom, and prudence. We are three in one, mind, body, and spirit.

 

[jinx]

I believe in one GOD manifested in different ways for HIS people for different purposes.