What is your opinion on gay couples adopting?

[Siberian_Khatru]

Yes, you are missing allot.

I do admire your passion and how you have seemingly taken ownership of a subject that had nothing to do with you.
I have a few questions for you though, all in the Love of Jesus; none of the following is to be misconstrued as negative:

Was the question directed to you?
Are you directly involved with her research as a decision maker?
Worldview/Demand, whatever are you referring to?
Was my questions directed to you or her?
Did the researcher open the discussion to all that desired to participate?

There is no demand and certainly my right to ask for accountability on the part of any researcher...how many research projects have you performed? Do you know what the professional etiquette requirements are for performing a research project within a set/existing cultural environment?


"Discrepancy?" you missed allot my friend. Am I missing a deeper intent on your part?

I warn you, I am not a weak Christian and I do not run, so if you have an issue bring it so I can Love You All The More. LOL

Livingepistle--trying to keep it real in Jesus.

I enjoy reading your posts you have a different view on life.

I'd be happy to answer those questions, but I sense a tone that implies you don't want answers. If you took offense, I apologize.

 

[Nautilus]

Ask Lot that question when you get to heaven.

you are a cool brother in Christ. May the peace of God be with you.

since Lot has apparently been one in ten of billions...Im sure his circumstances are extremely rare and thus are not applicable to the life we are living now... not to say his story doesnt have a message and a lesson, just that i doubt i will face a similar situation before i die

 

[livingepistle]

I'd be happy to answer those questions, but I sense a tone that implies you don't want answers. If you took offense, I apologize.

Strictly your opinion and your opinion is wrong. I was careful to give deference to neither being offended nor attempting to be offensive. Texting really does not give true voice resonance. So, forgive me for not being careful in articulating my meaning. The questions were sincere.

No offence is taken on my part. I always have and will respect your posts. Let brotherly love continue.

 

[livingepistle]

since Lot has apparently been one in ten of billions...Im sure his circumstances are extremely rare and thus are not applicable to the life we are living now... not to say his story doesnt have a message and a lesson, just that i doubt i will face a similar situation before i die

You are different in a nice way.

Before Lot, Noah witnessed the same and the entire civilization was corrupt. According to scripture, there were seven witnesses when counting Noah and family members; 7 out of a billion. Did Noah sit around and do nothing; not according to the Word, he preached and prepared against the same similar social issues of the day.

That will make two instances in the history of humanity where sin became significant enough for God to act against them; bring judgments. His witnesses stood against their sinful deeds--not to stop them--but as a warning “light” of the consequences of their sin.

There is another account in the Word that states the same conditions would happen in this age we live; Jesus in Matthew 24:37-39 prophesied it:

37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

“Nothing is so fatal to religion as indifference.” Edmund Burke.

Jesus obligated us when he stated that we are the light of the world. Jesus does not expect us to sit and do nothing in the face of sin; metaphorically, hiding under a basket.

Matthew 5:15;Nas, “nor does anyone light a lamp and put it under a basket, but on the lampstand, and it gives light to all who are in the house.”

"To each their own.", personally, I see this thread as an opportunity to share insight into a moral way of living according to the Word in contrast to similar past events that occurred and are now recurring at a rapid rate within societies of the world today. Jesus said we are the light of the world, not to condemn the world but to be a warning "light" against sin and a signal "light" to those searching for a way out of darkness.

That is my position concerning your responses to my comments. Thank you for sharing and may brotherly love continue between us.

 

[wolfywolfs]

Yes, I believe that it matters what one believes because of their intent. Based upon her opening statements, “…Christians are so stereotypical…” it seems that she is researching from a biased position.

Now the posed question is to her but out of courtesy, I am responding to you because I am a nice person.

I say again Amen to “No, just No…” when it comes to Gay couples adopting children.

Should you have any further question, I will be happy to answer them with the same courtesy shown to you in this post.
Jesus reigns.

ok it seems you misread her opening statement and decided to take offence straight away. lets look back she didn't say "all christians are against gay adoption" that there is being stereotypical she said "I have chosen the Christian community because of the stereotypical views A majority of people have." here in her statement she doesn't even mention CC so she is not even focusing on the site she is talking as a whole. and she doesn't even say every christian she says the majority by saying that she is acknowledging that their are Christians that don't share the same views and that's why she asking for opinions to get both sides of the argument. when she says "because of the stereotypical views A majority of people have." she is talking about the main view that most people seem to share about religion and gays not her own personal view.

besides i'm pretty sure she didn't mean any offence if someone did its normally more clear than that

now as on to the subject where you say what does the bible say on this subject matter i can say what does the bible say about divorce. divorce shouldn't happen its a sin but people still do it and you may not agree with people divorcing but you don't try and stop it or make divorce illegal why is that how can you try and ban one thing because of your views but not the other i am curious to know so please answer why have you accepted one and not the other and if that's not the case and you are against divorce in all its forms then why haven't you personally done anything to stop others in a legal way.

 

[Kisses1990]

I don't think anyone has gone quite that far, yet.

Btw, in the eyes of many Christians, there is no "perfectly fine gay family".

I layed out a hypothetical situation in which the gay family was more suitable in every way except for the fact that they are gay ...(which in my opinion shouldnt matter anyway....it's subjective) I believe christians would still choose the heterosexual family, even if they might be criminals. That is a problem.

 

[livingepistle]

ok it seems you misread her opening statement and decided to take offence straight away. lets look back she didn't say "all christians are against gay adoption" that there is being stereotypical she said "I have chosen the Christian community because of the stereotypical views A majority of people have." here in her statement she doesn't even mention CC so she is not even focusing on the site she is talking as a whole. and she doesn't even say every christian she says the majority by saying that she is acknowledging that their are Christians that don't share the same views and that's why she asking for opinions to get both sides of the argument. when she says "because of the stereotypical views A majority of people have." she is talking about the main view that most people seem to share about religion and gays not her own personal view.

besides i'm pretty sure she didn't mean any offence if someone did its normally more clear than that

now as on to the subject where you say what does the bible say on this subject matter i can say what does the bible say about divorce. divorce shouldn't happen its a sin but people still do it and you may not agree with people divorcing but you don't try and stop it or make divorce illegal why is that how can you try and ban one thing because of your views but not the other i am curious to know so please answer why have you accepted one and not the other and if that's not the case and you are against divorce in all its forms then why haven't you personally done anything to stop others in a legal way.

I agree that she did not say "all" and that what she did say is "Majority".
In like manner, "I" never said "all"; “I" said "stereotypical" in my comments. Her comments communicate to me that she came to this forum because of the majority of those that have stereotypical views as Christians. Her intent is obvious; she is interested in those with “stereotypical opinions” not as you interpret it. Friend, I respectfully disagree with your assessment; however, I do respect your comments and they were considered with brotherly love.

Consider the conversation between another respected individual’s observations directed to Studentjamie:
“It's really hard to figure out the majority christian perspective on this issue because it's so divisive. The mood here tends to be much more conservative. It really depends on what denomination/sect you ask…Age is also a factor.” She concludes with this advice:

“Basically all I'm saying is that watch for biases! It's hard to get a general picture especially with a limited data set, so make sure you note any shifts in your data. Though I'm sure since your majoring in sociology, you already knew this Good luck!”
What I admire most about apocalypseArisen is that she is straight forward concerning her beliefs. Studentjamie states that she is unsure concerning her religious position. Both are assessing the Christian community. Nevertheless, as a suggested general rule for Christians, all responses should depend on what the Word of God has to say concerning society (the world) and human behavior; now on to addressing your other comments:

Concerning what she intended as non-offensive, I cannot say and it never was a personal concern of mine. I respect the study and appreciate the depth of it: This subject is an escalating phenomenon in human behavior. The Gay community is united and their objectives are clear among participants; make our lifestyle a normalcy. Moreover, it serves as an indicator that Jesus’ return is (about to happen) imminent.

Your divorce comparison is metaphorically akin to comparing apples and oranges. The key point to my statements is not what I have to say about it but what does the Word of God tell us. The Bible does not mention children in the stories concerning the destruction of terra firma during the days of Noah and the city of Sodom; "do you think there were children destroyed with the adults"? “What is the lesson to be learned here, that divorce will cause God to destroy a generation?” no, the lesson is that paraphilia will.

Divorce is accepted by God under certain circumstances as described in the OT and NT. Paraphilia is denounced as a behavior with historically observed dire consequences to human society. "Did God leave us examples to live by?" both in nature and the heavens. No where in any statement have I denounced divorce or said it is a sin. "Are you certain you have the correct person?" I am not certain that you do.

The United States of America established laws concerning divorce, the accepted definition of family, and laws protecting children. The majority of the laws against certain sexual behaviors among consenting adults are rarely enforced if kept out of public view. Many live in this country because of the laws that formally protected a way of life as a republic. The Gay community is attempting to redefine those laws to establish their life-style as "normalcy". These matters concern the "World".As a Christian, my opinion is that of God's Word without respect of person.

Submitted with all due respect to all parties concerned.

“There is nothing that God has judged good for us that He has not given us the means to accomplish, both in the natural and the moral world.” Raymond Burke

 

[Powemm]

What's the greatest commandment ?

 

[Christianrkchk89]

Seems to me that the majority of people who are against gay marriage are most likely against homosexuals adopting and those pro- gay marriage are for homosexuals adopting.

I am against gay marriage and against adoption by homosexual partners.

 

[jandian]

Anything that opposes God's word is to the detriment of man; whether we can immediately see the effects of it or not.

 

[darrienbd]

Such an act( Homosexuality) is evil and for a child to be brought up in such an environment will be catastrophic to the child growth and behavior. I totality disagree for gay couples to adopt children.

So basically you are saying that because two men or two women, that want a family, can not because it is apparently "evil." And tell me how is LOVE "evil." If two people are in love then it should be okay if they want to have a family no matter what sex they are. And no I am not a Christian, Catholic, or anything like that. Put yourself in a gays persons shoes. Try and see their point of view and how they are hurt every time they are told, "NO," because they are homosexual. Wouldn't you feel horrible and upset if you get told that you cant adopt because you are black, Asian, Indian, or even Russian. How would you feel if you wanted to adopt a little Asian girl and you get told no because you are an American. Just think about that.

 

[Anne_Martin]

I oppose homosexuality in general, so the whole idea of them adopting seems pretty bad. I have no doubt that they will provide for the child , but as stated above the child will be involuntarily exposed to ungodly practices, and accept homosexuality as being 'ok' when its a sin in Gods eyes.

 

[Anne_Martin]

Oh and for the arguments supporting homosexuality that claim its a matter of 'equality', such as racial equality etc. It is far from that. Simply put, it is a matter of right and wrong. And this is why people oppose it, not because they see gays as 'unequal' but as people who disregard gods law. Gay people aren't to be hated or condemned, they deserve to be loved like all human beings, they just need to wake up and realise that the path they are on is one that can only lead to hell. God loves them, and he wants them to succeed in life, but how can they live successful lives when they are constantly at war with God ?