5 Atheist Questions Christans Can't Answer

[hattiebod]

Well, if you were a Christian, you have simply drifted from Him but He will call you back and when He does you will hear Him. That's good news indeed If you were not saved then, I shall simply repeat what I posted before, that I trust God will accomplish all He wants too. It's no accident you are here As for your question, i can only answer that his ways are not our ways so we are best not to imagine our feeble puny minds could ever understand or explain fully the ways of God. I do know what God has revealed to me through His whole word, through the revelation of His Son...so no. I would not be killing my next door neighbors. Being told to kill them, would contradict the word of God, and that is impossible. Christ says to love my neighbor and to treat them as I would treat Christ and I would die for Christ, but I know I will not be called upon to kill for Him. God Bless you, <><

 

[wordhelpsme]

Remember those who do not want to believe in a Creatoror those who want to judge him will not listen to any reason. Their heart is unresponsive and not open, no matter how good or reasonably an answer is. It is not just with religion this type of personality judges. We do better not to waste our time if they are just argumentative. There is a different in attitude when people sincerely want answers.


1. Why would God place a forbidden tree in the garden so close …?


Parents set boundaries for children, bosses for employees, governments for subjects. There are many liberties you can take within the boundaries, but when you go outside of these boundaries we suffer the consequences, whether you fill they are fair or not.

The Creator of all things has the right to set boundaries for his creation. Imagine giving someone 100’s of trees to eat from but giving only one restriction. He required obedience. This Adam and Eve understood as seen by her response to Satan. (Genesis 3:1-5)

Free will and foreknowledge


It is nice that we all have been created with the wonderful gift of free will. Adam and Eve were perfect so their abuse of their free will was especially selfish and deliberate.

By choice God does not continually use his ability of foreknowledge, no more than an excellent singer sings all their conversations, asshown in a host of scriptures. He allowed his perfect creation the freedoms of independence without constant monitoring. God uses his foreknowledge wisely and selectively. He had no reason to believe his perfect angelic and human creation would turn his back on his wonderful gifts.

There were occasions when the bad conduct of certain individuals caused God to grieve or sad. (Psalm 78:40-41; 1 Kings 11:9-10) Would he have felt such pain if he had long known what they would do, or foreordained it to happen.

God did not create Satan the Devil; He inherited that name after he rebelled. Prior to his rebellion he was a beautiful angel in heaven. (Ezekiel 28:13-18) His desire to be worshiped caused his fall. James 1:14-15

Clearly, God did not know beforehand that the first couple or his angel would sin. While hewas pained by the disobedience of man and the ensuing suffering, God knew that this temporary situation would not prevent the fulfillment of his eternal purpose for the earth and humans upon it. Psalms37; Isaiah 45:18; Matthew 5:5; 2 Peter 3:13

 

[megaman125]

Well thats all dandy and all, but I don't see love in rapists marrying their victims and paying 50 or so sheckles to their father.

Of course you don't, because you plug your ears and refuse to understand. That's not our fault, and not something we're going to try to fix.

I'm not denying god by all means, I'm denying Yahweh as much as I am denying unicorns and faries.
I didn't come to this site as an agnostic atheist in 2009, I spent most of my life as a Christian. I became an agnostic atheist when I sought to rationalize me belief to give it evidence only to find none. And if your god did exist he'd be a tyrant, if Yahweh spoke to you right now and said KILL your neighbor as I commanded the Israelites to kill the Cannanites would you do it?

Based on your standard dime-a-dozen atheist lines, I highly doubt you were a Christian. I think you just went to church when you were younger, and learned some things about Christianity. I've learned some stuff about Hinduism, that doesn't make me a Hindu.

I would address this, but your "God is an evil tyrant" nonsense has been addressed many times, by many Christians, and given how you refuse to understand other things, it would be futile. If you were seeking rationalization and open-mindedness, then you already know the Christian response to the failed "God is an evil tyrant" argument. Instead, I'll leave you with this.

But to the wicked God says: "What right have you to recite my statues or take my covenant on your lips? For you hate discipline, and you cast my words behind you. If you see a thief, you are pleased with him, and you keep company with adulterers. You give your mouth free rein for evil, and your tongue frames deceit. You sit and speak against your brother; you slander your own mother's son. These things you have done, and I have been silent; you thought that I was one like yourself. But now I rebuke you and lay the charge before you."
Psalm 50:16-20

 

[Grey]

Well, if you were a Christian, you have simply drifted from Him but He will call you back and when He does you will hear Him. That's good news indeed If you were not saved then, I shall simply repeat what I posted before, that I trust God will accomplish all He wants too. It's no accident you are here As for your question, i can only answer that his ways are not our ways so we are best not to imagine our feeble puny minds could ever understand or explain fully the ways of God. I do know what God has revealed to me through His whole word, through the revelation of His Son...so no. I would not be killing my next door neighbors. Being told to kill them, would contradict the word of God, and that is impossible. Christ says to love my neighbor and to treat them as I would treat Christ and I would die for Christ, but I know I will not be called upon to kill for Him. God Bless you, <><

God certainly has commanded holy murder in his name before, perhaps you're wondering why all the Cannanites just sorta died?

 

[megaman125]

God certainly has commanded holy murder in his name before, perhaps you're wondering why all the Cannanites just sorta died?

You know, if you actually read the Bible, you'd see how innocent the Cannanites weren't.

 

[Grey]

Of course you don't, because you plug your ears and refuse to understand. That's not our fault, and not something we're going to try to fix.



Based on your standard dime-a-dozen atheist lines, I highly doubt you were a Christian. I think you just went to church when you were younger, and learned some things about Christianity. I've learned some stuff about Hinduism, that doesn't make me a Hindu.

I would address this, but your "God is an evil tyrant" nonsense has been addressed many times, by many Christians, and given how you refuse to understand other things, it would be futile. If you were seeking rationalization and open-mindedness, then you already know the Christian response to the failed "God is an evil tyrant" argument. Instead, I'll leave you with this.
But to the wicked God says: "What right have you to recite my statues or take my covenant on your lips? For you hate discipline, and you cast my words behind you. If you see a thief, you are pleased with him, and you keep company with adulterers. You give your mouth free rein for evil, and your tongue frames deceit. You sit and speak against your brother; you slander your own mother's son. These things you have done, and I have been silent; you thought that I was one like yourself. But now I rebuke you and lay the charge before you."
Psalm 50:16-20

Matthew 7:1-5 - Judge not, that ye be not judged.

I'd love to listen to you all day, but if the logic ain't sound, and I don't agree with anyone or anything that permitted child murder or marrying your rapist, I suppose thats my crime to you.

I spent a year reading the bible for myself, and before I attempted to rationalize my faith and abide by logic and science whilst also being Christian I deluded myself into believing that the earth was 6,000 old and that dinosaurs coexisted with man. I did exactly what you said I shut up my ears and eyes and went LA LA LA to any and all scientific reasoning that contradicted my faith in Jesus Christ. I left the church because I didn't think Martin Luther was a good guy because of what he said about Anti-Semitism near the end of his life. I was a bible literalist for 4 years and a Lutheran with my family in the years before that. Next time try to be a better judge of a persons past, or perhaps follow your own books advice.


I leave you with this, if you were an ancient Israelite, would you be okay with Old Testament Law? Or committing genocide in the name of god?

 

[Grey]

You know, if you actually read the Bible, you'd see how innocent the Cannanites weren't.

Somehow I wouldn't be okay with killing babies

 

[megaman125]

Matthew 7:1-5 - Judge not, that ye be not judged.

Oh look, the most misquoted Bible verse that non-Christians love to hide behind. Jesus told us to judge righteously (John 7:24), not bury our head in the sand and be gullible.

I spent a year reading the bible for myself, and before I attempted to rationalize my faith and abide by logic and science whilst also being Christian I deluded myself into believing that the earth was 6,000 old and that dinosaurs coexisted with man. I did exactly what you said I shut up my ears and eyes and went LA LA LA to any and all scientific reasoning that contradicted my faith in Jesus Christ. I left the church because I didn't think Martin Luther was a good guy because of what he said about Anti-Semitism near the end of his life. I was a bible literalist for 4 years and a Lutheran with my family in the years before that. Next time try to be a better judge of a persons past, or perhaps follow your own books advice.

You're free to follow whatever religious beliefs you want. At the end of the day, all you did was replace one religion for another.

I leave you with this, if you were an ancient Israelite, would you be okay with Old Testament Law?

Sure I would, not your skewed view of it though.

 

[hattiebod]

God certainly has commanded holy murder in his name before, perhaps you're wondering why all the Cannanites just sorta died?

I do not live under the laws of the OT, I live in the freedom of Christ crucified for the sins of the world , past, present and future. So no, no Holy murder I am to look to Christ for my hope & salvation. <><

 

[Grey]

Oh look, the most misquoted Bible verse that non-Christians love to hide behind. Jesus told us to judge righteously (John 7:24), not bury our head in the sand and be gullible.



You're free to follow whatever religious beliefs you want. At the end of the day, all you did was replace one religion for another.

Sure I would, not your skewed view of it though.

Yeah Im totally skewing the wonderful and awesome laws the Israelites had,

for example killing witches, you're right, thats totally ok, I mean the Catholic church had the right idea!

Do not allow a sorceress to live.” (Exodus 22:18)

And I mean murdering my own children is totally okay right, as long as they're disobedient I can stone them right?
Det. 21-21 And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.

Det 21:4 Blaming and killing cows is fine if you can't find a murderer right? I mean who has the time to "investigate" things

and lead it down to a valley that has not been plowed or planted and where there is a flowing stream. There in the valley they are to break the heifer's neck


And finally infants are totally liable for what there parents did right? If god says it you'd be a ok with infanticide.

Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’”

1 Samuel 15:3-23




Im inspired to worship such a merciful and rational god again!

 

[hattiebod]

Another thought Grey, you can read the Bible more than once, and it will simply be a 'book' to you, if your heart is hard and you do not seek Him with a repentant heart. When you recognize you are a sinner....and that you need the Holy lamb of God, then you will see clearly the God of your salvation. God gives you the faith to know Him. It is not you that goes to Him....you respond to Him. I pray that will be soon <><

 

[Siberian_Khatru]

Im inspired to worship such a merciful and rational god again!

Well, at least you're not being disrespectful.

Edit: Totally wanted to put a .gif of The Joker clapping sarcastically, but decided against it.

 

[megaman125]

And I mean murdering my own children is totally okay right, as long as they're disobedient I can stone them right?
Det. 21-21 And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.

Once again, you show you don't understand the Bible, but that's par for the course. Once again, dime-a-dozen.

Stoning Your Children

 

[Grey]

Once again, you show you don't understand the Bible, but that's par for the course. Once again, dime-a-dozen.

Stoning Your Children

Well kudos to the semi-creepy fact that you only spoke up about the stoning thing and not the you know, infanticide thing, before I even adress the claim that website made about having judges, I don't think and regrettably you don't think that if I have a son, even if he is gluttonous or a drunk, I'm not going to stone my son! Particularly because he didn't murder or rape anyone! Finally the passage itself says only telling them that their son is a glutton, not any trial or judgement taking place.

Kudos once more to you being okay with slaughtering cows in place of investigating a murder.

 

[megaman125]

Well kudos to the semi-creepy fact that you only spoke up about the stoning thing and not the you know, infanticide thing, before I even adress the claim that website made about having judges, I don't think and regrettably you don't think that if I have a son, and even if he is gluttonous or a drunk, I'm not going to stone my son! Particularly because he didn't murder or rape anyone! Finally the passage itself says only telling them that their son is a gluton, not any trial taking place.

You just demonstrated the reason I didn't address anything else you spewed out by not grasping what I did give you. You continue to refuse understanding. They did have trials back then, in fact our court system has a lot of similarities to OT Israel. But of course, you wouldn't know that when you don't read or refuse to understand the Bible.

 

[Grey]

You just demonstrated the reason I didn't address anything else you spewed out by not grasping what I did give you. You continue to refuse understanding. They did have trials back then, in fact our court system has a lot of similarities to OT Israel. But of course, you wouldn't know that when you don't read or refuse to understand the Bible.

Please explain how the evil atheist is skewing infanticide

I'd certainly hope that our judges are as far from the OT theocracy as we can get.



"Sure I would, not your skewed view of it though"

 

[Crucifiction]

Once again, you show you don't understand the Bible, but that's par for the course. Once again, dime-a-dozen.

Stoning Your Children

All that link shows is that there are contradictory verses in the Bible and that this is
the website author's interpretation and opinion. Why should we believe his authority?

 

[megaman125]

All that link shows is that there are contradictory verses in the Bible and that this is
the website author's interpretation and opinion. Why should we believe his authority?

There are no contradictory verses in the Bible. That was the premise of the website. Everything stated on the page I linked is backed up with Scripture. If it's wrong, please explain.

 

[Grey]

There are no contradictory verses in the Bible. That was the premise of the website. Everything stated on the page I linked is backed up with Scripture. If it's wrong, please explain.

What color was Jesus's robe when he was put on trial, given a crown of thorns and mocked by the romans
MAT 27:28 scarlet

JOH 19:2 purple

always try and research if there's contradictions before stating that there aren't any

 

[megaman125]

What color was Jesus's robe when he was put on trial, given a crown of thorns and mocked by the romans
MAT 27:28 scarlet

JOH 19:2 purple

always try and research if there's contradictions before stating that there aren't any

King David 8 .com

Looks like you should do some research. Applying basic logic helps too.