The "How Sweetly Naive Blain is" thread. You know you want to read it.

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SeatBelt

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Yep.
It'll make me hugely unpopular with some, and secretly the new prom king with others.
I'm not one to care, so in case no one did this during my brief absence* from CC, I'm calling you out. Quite Publicly.

Blain. You are a nice guy with good intentions. Good intentions get people killed.
THIS IS NOT A THREAT (post 9/11 disclaimer. They're obligatory these days.)
This is however, me wanting to point out that whether anyone will publicly admit it or not, some things hold true. I know that it is longer than an explanation of 6-point Calvinisim slurred by a drinker of 3-point-2 beer, but I implore you to read it all the same. Then you can tell me what a jerk I am and be justified merely because I made you read something ridiculously long.
Anyway, we hold these truths to be... errrr listed below, if they do not seem self evident I might provide further explanations, maybe:

1) If you start prompting people to compliment others, the vast majority of society will feel pressure to say something to nice - whether or not they follow through AND whether or not they even like the person. Yes, they can feel pressured even if they like the bloke. {hey now, no second guessing...I meant what I said on people's threads.}
2) Putting people in that position is Unimaginably Rude. Even if you are genuinely so sweet to not realize what a jerk it takes to do that.
3) Some people when pressured will admit to nice things they are not ready to say or comfortable with saying.
4) See #2.
5) Some people Do Not take compliments well. A little bit of easing someone into the hot tub of taking a compliment is nice, if properly done. You never Throw someone into a hot tub. Some people have to acclimate to the warm water slower than others. Some people have apprehensions about hot tubs in general. Some have apprehensions about your intentions when you put them in a hot tub. Some folks have baggage and are deathly afraid of the water and will give you a mean right hook for suggesting that they put their toes in the water. (It's a metaphor people, no one is punching Blain, and there is no hot tub, so for the sake of all concerned, Please go change out of that swim suit... some of you are causing others to lust and/or retch.) But to get back on track, Some people Do Not take compliments well. Public compliments are in fact the worst thing you can inflict on some people. I genuinely recommend that before you and a tv crew show up at someone's house to tell them how nice they are, how pretty they are, or how they cut their grass so well... do your homework and figure out what is going to go over well and what will be like unto a lead dirigible (no Jimmy Page reference here!).
6) See #2.
7) Being uplifted is swell. We all need it from time to time. Some people here have self worth issues and need a little less uplifting than what they are getting...If you've chosen to widen the doorways at home to get your big head through, I'm talking about you, though not to you. Other people have self worth issues and need more uplifting than what they are getting. People of the second type typically will look upon something so public as Blain's threads to be painful, and may even view them as some kind of fake conspiracy.
8) see #4
9) Publicly posting how much someone is spiffy is a spiffy way to extract a whole lot of Personal out of the compliments, thus degrading their value. Person A may have the most exact perfect thing to say to person B. A says it publicly and therefor either now must couch it in a more public way, removing some of the value. Alternately, but not exclusive to the prior, Person A now says something publicly that if said in a more personal and intimate [even if that is a platonic intimacy, like the Philia (φιλία philía) love] setting would have meant more to the recipient. (What? the value of our words can be effected by their setting? You bet. now draw your own conclusions about this being a public post instead of a PM. I'll not commit to your opinions. Don't ask.) A third option on that, again not necessarily exclusive of the other two is that the words of Person A to Person B will now be lacking in value based on the fact that they are well known to others. The "power of secret" is removed.
10) See #8
11) Someone is going to get left out and not like that. Especially in a group the size of CC. People come and go, join and quit all the time. Someone is going to come along with an "ooooh now do me" post (ahem, remember that in the matchmaker thread?) and not be known enough for us to be able to say more than, Uh... they always use their punctuation marks appropriately?!?.;:,."'({[]}) (just making sure I'm not that guy, lol) That leaves both the regulars and the lesser known party (the irregular?) both in an awkward position
12) This is an even number, by now you should know that someone is being a jerk even if they don't mean to.
13) Blain seems to be an actual nice guy. I've even had someone very legit vouch for him. I believe he not only did not mean to be a King James version of a donkey, but that he had no idea what a stupendous job he did of it. I think he owes no one an appology.
14) Calling someone out like this is Unimaginably Rude. I am not so genuinely so sweet to not realize what a jerk it takes to do this. I do feel like there was a lesson to be learned in here for All readers. Different lessons for different readers, sure. It may even be a matter of everyone learning that I can be a big meanie. My motivations for posting this are my own, and I felt strongly enough about it to say it all publicly. Some of you may now loathe me to the point of it being sinful, or may feel I am misguided or speaking out of a place of pain, or just feel like I need more Jesus and pray for me. Some of you may now be electing me to the position of Secret Prom King. Either case, I am not one to care. I tend my own shop as I best see fit. I try to do better daily. In the end, its the internet, people. The image you get of someone based on what they do or say on the net Is Very One Sided, and perhaps untrue. Whatever we are like here, we need to do our best There (points out to the real world). Lets all take a deep collective breath and happily move forward from here, both online and IRL. There is likely not a reason to reply to this thread, leastwise none I can see at this time.
15) See #13

now I'm gonna read some threads and see what yall's been up to.


*I've not read a single post or thread since waking up this morning. I've not been on CC in a great many hours. Someone may have beat me to this, and if so, I now look like a Royal jerk... in which case I will flippantly say I have the blood of nobility. Which is of course a lie, as best I know. But the nitty grit is I felt strongly enough about this to post it, AND that I still think Blain is a nice guy, but terribly young and naive. (Which probably only proves that I am old and jaded beyond my years.)
(....or that I watch too much 'House.')
 
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iTOREtheSKY

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Well..you know me well enough SeatBelt...I will reply to this thread...because I go against the grain all the time. Firstly,I'd like to say while I was a willing participant in the threads about people,if you go back to Blain's initial post that he started about doing this I was a bit negative in my response to him,saying that this is fine & dandy,but might cause problems and people might feel left out or it would seem offensive. After seeing what a positive response it seemed to be getting,I dove right in head first,because I thought to myself..."Wow,there's so many people who bless me on here,why not let them know publicly,or tell other's?" Not thinking I might seriously freak out or make uneasy people who do not like to be on display. So,while I found that it was refreshing to have a nice night of bonding with one another & encouragement,I would be just as guilty as Blain in jumping on the bandwagon. Sometimes a good idea,isn't always a good idea. I do think however everyone's heart was in the right place,and if not,then God will show us & we'll learn & grow from this. I'm not upset at all that you made this thread SeatBelt. I in all honesty was waiting for someone to do this,and I'm glad if it were to happen it was you. I'm sorry if any of the comments I made or threads I started made anyone feel singled out & uncomfortable in any way. It certainly was not my intention & I ask those of you that might have been offended to forgive me. I know I overstep my boundaries many times with people in what I speak,seems I have been like that most of my life & it's something I pray that God will help me to reign in.
 
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Relena7

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Who knew compliments could wind up so controversial. o_O Yikes.
 
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Jordache

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Di you ever think that a PM might be a more appropriate and loving way to do this? Matthew 18, my friend... Perhaps this is a subsequent attemp to exhort, but nevertheless there are more than the few required witnesses here.
 

maxwel

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I have an idea.

How about we thank Blain for his good intentions, and his kind heart.
We can then thank him for his astute ability to recognize that we all need to be more encouraging around here.
We can then thank him for his decisiveness in actually "doing" something with his convictions.

Finally, perhaps we can think of some different ways to be encouraging...
ways which are more natural and organic.

And we can thank Blain for bringing these things to our attention.
 
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zaoman32

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Di you ever think that a PM might be a more appropriate and loving way to do this? Matthew 18, my friend...
I'm not saying Seatbelt is wrong, we're single parent dudes who care about our kids, there's not many of us so we have to stick together, but this probably would have been the more proper way to handle things.

Just to share my own thoughts, personally I don't see how people can become uncomfortable from getting complimented. I guess I could maybe understand being embarrassed from being singled out, but even that just seems silly when someone wants to tell you how much they appreciate you. I'm glad someone started these threads because it's nice to be able to all show some love and appreciation for each other when there's so much hostility between certain members, not to mention there's several girls here who I do greatly appreciate and admire, but usually avoid telling them so in one on one conversations so I'm not sounding like some creepy stalker trying to hook up with them.

I don't mean to rag on you in anyway seatbelt, if you feel like I am, I apologize, that's just my perspective on things.
 
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arwen83

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I agree with 11. I was thinking that when I started to read them, then felt a little odd after making the Zao one. And 1 was the reason I didn't want an arwen thread, it feels all too forced. Inauthentic, leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
 
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MissCris

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So...

I "like" SeatBelt's post because it is honest. I am the one who started the thread about him, and I worried, AFTER THE FACT, how he might feel about that. I feel that much of his post pertains to myself, or at least, I took it that way despite who was actually named there. And that's ok, I should have thought first, typed later. And I didn't.

I also "like" SeatBelt's post because he makes some fair points in it; not everyone IS comfortable with receiving such open compliments, and there have been some people who requested not to have a thread made for them, and others whom I suspect weren't entirely pleased based on their lack of a response to their thread. And that...I get it. And I'm sorry for my part in the threads for people who would prefer not to have a thread at all but got one anyway.

All of that being said...
Some of the threads were probably not a good idea (see above for reasons), but some of the threads made the day just that little bit brighter for some people. For myself, it was a pleasant surprise to wake up yesterday morning and see "my" thread, and yet at the same time I felt a bit awkward reading it because I suck at just accepting compliments. Not that it didn't make me smile, I just felt weird trying to figure out how to respond to ya'll.

...Also, I don't think that ANYONE is trying to say Blain ISN'T a sweetheart.


 
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dyingeveryday

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I just thought the threads were about being positive. Who knew they were going to get so in depth. I never knew it was so difficult to publicly compliment someone. Who knew?
 
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dyingeveryday

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Aright, MissCris good point.
 
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Relena7

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It's kinda sad that we live in a culture and time where we're taught that complimenting people is dumb and naive. I see what SeatBelt is saying. But I also think it's sad that many people have been conditioned to think this way.
 
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iTOREtheSKY

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It's kinda sad that we live in a culture and time where we're taught that complimenting people is dumb and naive. I see what SeatBelt is saying. But I also think it's sad that many people have been conditioned to think this way.
We certainly have been conditioned by the world to take in as much negativity as possible & filter out anything life affirming for sure. The thing is that many people are just shy or really humble & do not like to be put on "display" even if it's to tell them how much they mean to you. Everyone is wired differently & here in CC you have a huge range of personalities,quirks & emotions. It's hard sometimes to know what other's may or may not approve of. I am sure that's why in many places in the bible it talks about our speech...it's a real balancing act. Lord knows I fail miserably at on most days. Thank God for his Grace towards me...he is long suffering.
 

lil_christian

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I can see where you're coming from SeatBelt...but, I have to ask you this. Did you once feel like this thread was a bad idea? Had an unsettling feeling about it? Hesitated before you hit that submit thread button? There are some good points in this that I'll agree with. But I just don't see how calling someone out like this can be justified. I dunno if Blain has seen this thread, but I would hate to feel how he'll probably feel when he does see this. With the way he cheered up my whole entire week, I don't believe he deserved this kind of public embarrassment. I'm pretty sure correction is best done when it's off to the side and away from public eye.

I'm not here to speak down, I just want people to slow down, and think for a second. God gave us the gift of perspective.
 
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kenisyes

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Or maybe we could all start praising the work of God in someone where we admire it? Then we could all see how we all have different gifts, and all each make a great contribution around here, in his/her own way.
 

CatHerder

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Well, I "liked" because I think Seatbelt made some very good points. I just noticed that it was really hard having to search through all the positivity to find that really important masturbation thread*. It would be great if all those uplifting posts could be consolidated into one edifying, uplifting thread.

*sarcasm font
 
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iTOREtheSKY

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Well, I "liked" because I think Seatbelt made some very good points. I just noticed that it was really hard having to search through all the positivity to find that really important masturbation thread*. It would be great if all those uplifting posts could be consolidated into one edifying, uplifting thread.

*sarcasm font
I can't tell you how much I want to "like" the comment about masturbation which drips with sarcasm. Laffin my buns off...again.
 

DuchessAimee

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I think the biggest point made was that some people would be left out. If the person left out was fine with it, then that's grand. But what if that person was hurt by it? Perhaps instead of threads people should have just PMed someone they thought was nifty. That way it's private and like SeatBelt said, the words may have held more value to the recipient.
 
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Ariel82

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Blain is a sweetheart and he is great!

If you think he is rude, then you have misunderstood his motives.

If you still take offense then you need to pray and forgive him because that is what GOD says to do.

Otherwise you have more issues than Blain's rudeness or naivety.

:) Hi Blain, there will always be people who take offense but if others didn't support you and jump on the "bandwagon" then the threads would have just faded in the background and the forums could go back to talking about masturbation or whatever. The fact that so many people responded positively means that they LOVED the idea of encouraging others.

For those who don't like it, start threads talking about a subject you are interested in or continue a conversation/thread that you would rather discuss.

Don't click.

no one is forcing you to be "fake" or pressuring you into posting compliments about someone. its your choice.

don't like the threads? let them fade away.............



Personally I like Blain's child like faith, kindness and love for those around him. It reminds me that God works in the lives and hearts of people around us still to encourage and uplift others.
 
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iTOREtheSKY

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I had like another 15 people I was gonna do threads about,but after I saw the reaction of how uncomfortable one member got,I backed off & felt bad for making them feel that way. And..hey guys..listen...let's not turn this thread into a "gang up on SeatBelt lynching" either...he like all of us is growing in Christ every day. We all have beliefs,issues & concerns that we express differently. I, in all honesty do not think it was SB's intention to be rude to Blain. Everyone so far has made awesome points...let's just not take it too personal...we still need to speak the TRUTH IN LOVE & not let our emotions get the best of us,even though that is easier said than done much of the time. Ok...carry on. LOL
 

Fenner

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I thought he had a nice idea. Wherever, sorry Blaine