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ShyForHim

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I'm not sure what about you guys, but I've seen way too much hostility here on the forums lately. Not sure about the chat because I tend to have my sound silenced and all. But the forums.. are swarmed with hatred. Is this the example you guys give to the newcomers? Seriously?

I'm deeply hurt people fight over God's Word. Just because our opinions vary, it certainly shouldn't create a war about it. We all love God equally, don't we? So what's the reward of the fights? I understand when you try to explain someone who got the wrong idea about something in the Bible, but some of you really need to set aside all the hateful comments, racist and all of that.

What example are you giving to God?

I myself am trying to get to know God's love further, and Christians are the ones who should be revealing it. But the way I see it, there's often none..
 
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TomH

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I'm not sure what about you guys, but I've seen way too much hostility here on the forums lately. Not sure about the chat because I tend to have my sound silenced and all. But the forums.. are swarmed with hatred. Is this the example you guys give to the newcomers? Seriously?

I'm deeply hurt people fight over God's Word. Just because our opinions vary, it certainly shouldn't create a war about it. We all love God equally, don't we? So what's the reward of the fights? I understand when you try to explain someone who got the wrong idea about something in the Bible, but some of you really need to set aside all the hateful comments, racist and all of that.

What example are you giving to God?

I myself am trying to get to know God's love further, and Christians are the ones who should be revealing it. But the way I see it, there's often none..
Amen, sister.
 
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djness

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I suppose it depends on what you are refering to. There is a lot of opinion doctrine that comes up against biblical truth and people love their opinions....so it does get heated. I wouldn't really look to the internet for prime examples of Gods love. Given this example of James 1:22 "Do not merely listen to the word, and so deceive yourselves. Do what it says". I would make sure you are going out and finding people who are doers not just chatters about it.
 
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I'm not sure what about you guys, but I've seen way too much hostility here on the forums lately. Not sure about the chat because I tend to have my sound silenced and all. But the forums.. are swarmed with hatred. Is this the example you guys give to the newcomers? Seriously?

I'm deeply hurt people fight over God's Word. Just because our opinions vary, it certainly shouldn't create a war about it. We all love God equally, don't we? So what's the reward of the fights? I understand when you try to explain someone who got the wrong idea about something in the Bible, but some of you really need to set aside all the hateful comments, racist and all of that.

What example are you giving to God?

I myself am trying to get to know God's love further, and Christians are the ones who should be revealing it. But the way I see it, there's often none..
You starting? :mad:

 
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Abiding

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Im not sure its hatred. My grandsons fight and taunt each other.
Later they play together.

Remember its a bible discussion forum, not so much a fellowship hall.
I agree tho its gets to the namecalling and accusations and goes south
each convinced its the other one that lacks "love"

Its really just a matter of knowing when to quit....and some do not
have a brake system, just a gas peddle.

I understand your point tho, im not innocent.
 
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ShyForHim

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I suppose it depends on what you are refering to. There is a lot of opinion doctrine that comes up against biblical truth and people love their opinions....so it does get heated. I wouldn't really look to the internet for prime examples of Gods love. Given this example of James 1:22 "Do not merely listen to the word, and so deceive yourselves. Do what it says". I would make sure you are going out and finding people who are doers not just chatters about it.
I don't want to point at anyone, but I am merely stating of the fights and hate I've seen some in the threads here on CC. However if Christians do not mirror God's love, then there's indeed something wrong. We aren't perfect, I know, but I'm just saying that hateful comments should be set up aside.
 

zone

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Im not sure its hatred. My grandsons fight and taunt each other.
Later they play together.

Remember its a bible discussion forum, not so much a fellowship hall.
I agree tho its gets to the namecalling and accusations and goes south
each convinced its the other one that lacks "love"

Its really just a matter of knowing when to quit....and some do not
have a brake system, just a gas peddle.

I understand your point tho, im not innocent.
serious?



well, okay then.
wish ya'd told me sooner:rolleyes:
 
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Abiding

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serious?



well, okay then.
wish ya'd told me sooner:rolleyes:
I wanted to tell you but hopping around those islands
i couldnt find a plug in for my ipad:p
 
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GreenNnice

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I don't want to point at anyone, but I am merely stating of the fights and hate I've seen some in the threads here on CC. However if Christians do not mirror God's love, then there's indeed something wrong. We aren't perfect, I know, but I'm just saying that hateful comments should be set up aside.
Don't let that un-mirroring of God's Love, you see, stop you from growing your faith in Him. He will show you His truth, don't be shy, shyone, to boldly understand He is the ONLY one who will never let you down, you are His, it's a done deal, don't EVER lose faith in Him, for He is faithful :)
 
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Georgiana

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I'm not sure what about you guys, but I've seen way too much hostility here on the forums lately. Not sure about the chat because I tend to have my sound silenced and all. But the forums.. are swarmed with hatred. Is this the example you guys give to the newcomers? Seriously?

I'm deeply hurt people fight over God's Word. Just because our opinions vary, it certainly shouldn't create a war about it. We all love God equally, don't we? So what's the reward of the fights? I understand when you try to explain someone who got the wrong idea about something in the Bible, but some of you really need to set aside all the hateful comments, racist and all of that.

What example are you giving to God?

I myself am trying to get to know God's love further, and Christians are the ones who should be revealing it. But the way I see it, there's often none..
I'm going to take what you say to heart, ShyForHim. I think posting your concern here is good thing. Often, people forget it's actually real people they're exchanging posts with. I've heard that a lot anyway. If we were speaking to one another in person, such things would certainly happen a lot less. Again, I personally will take this to heart, and be more careful in what I say. :)
 

notuptome

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If one must resort to attacking the poster then one must admit their position scripturally is weak. Paul withstood Peter to his face when Peter erred. Not a personal attack but a rebuke to correct a brother that he might repent and have fellowship restored. Now if some become offended over sound biblical doctrine then their offense is with the Lord and not with the poster. Heb 4:12-13. Perhaps it will help if we remember that our responsibility is to declare the word of God. The responsibility of the hearer is theirs alone.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 

tribesman

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Love hurts. And it rejoices in Truth.
 
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I find peace on His words when He said I will be despised or hated...
 
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1still_waters

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Well...

Ok...

Here it goes....

To a certain extent perceptions of what is mean/hateful/anger can be subjective.

To some the mere presence of disagreement means hate/anger/meanness is happening.

Now clearly if there are direct personal attacks at a given level, that needs to be stopped, and guess what, it does get stopped when it reaches a certain level.

Here's a no win situation we face running these forums.

People say they want all this tranquility and peace and such.
Yet people also say they want room for discussion and an open give and take.

Well guess what!
These two things can kinda conflict with each other.

We could clamp down BIG time and make this the most tranquil and peaceful forums even to the most sensitive person.

BUT if that were done, then we'd see posts with titles like...

I FEEL LIKE I CAN'T SAY ANYTHING ON CC OUT OF FEAR OF BEING DEALT WITH BY THE MODS

THE MODS ARE CONTROL FREAKS THEY JUST INFRACTIONED ME

WHY ARE ALL MY FRIENDS GETTING BANNED???

I FEEL LIKE I'M WALKING ON THIN ICE..THE MODS GET ON MY CASE IF IT EVEN LOOKS LIKE THINGS ARE GETTING HEATED

Even with the vast room for an honest give and take, we'll get threads similar to the hypothetical titles given above.


Yet when we try to allow for some give and take, and even a certain level of dander raisin..Then we get thread titles like..


EVERYONE IS FIGHTIN ON CC

WHY IS THERE SO MUCH DISCORD ON CC

THERE IS NO UNITY ON CC

The thing is, when we do actually deal with folks, under how things are done now, there is even flack over that, and someone has to cross a major line to be dealt with. Imagine if things were MORE strict. Oh my goodness, this forum would be loaded with mean rants about the mod-fia. There would be even more gossip and slander on your social media about those mean CC mods who won't allow for give and take and discussion in the forums.

We're trying to allow for some honest give and take. We're trying to allow folks to have some discussion without being intruded upon by admins/mods. We're trying to allow for maybe even a certain amount of dander raising, in hopes that folks will show a little grace when that happens. So given the fact that we're trying to do this, yes, things may appear a lil unkept at times. BUT the alternative is a forum where there is less room for discussion, more infraction/banning.
 
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I understand your post and have seen several other similar posts. I have two words for posts such as these and the difficulties expressed in your post and also the difficulties of the posters which you are feeling harmed by. Monkey Poo. I will write a separate post entitled Monkey Poo in order to describe this phenomenon and not shanghai your post.
 
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When hatred is expressed on CC, or even contempt for others viewpoint, it is always by those who do not know God in their hearts. In order to reap the terrific benefits of CC, you have to know that and ignore them. There is lots and lots of support and love here, too.

And always remember that this is a place to learn. We humans cannot really learn without reason and we have to look at pro and con to reason things out. We need, we want, we learn from different viewpoints. Even when that discussion gets heated. God reaches our hearts, it isn't always calm, peaceful, placid in our hearts. There is also passion, enthusiasm, deep caring, and those things aren't expressed with absolute peace and calmness.
 
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It is not easy for anyone to receive refinement of what they believe, primarily because it is what they believe.

We all build beliefs from which then we draw confidence that God is helping us. And if we doubt our beliefs, then that makes us feel as if we were wrong that God was helping us. And that is what we are really lashing out against.

Through this experience we need to learn that God's love for us and his being with us is not contingent upon our understanding his word perfectly in the moment, but rather that he loves us and we love him so much that for us to be wrong at the moment does not matter as our only desire is to grow by God's love and the help which he sends to us in many ways.

God can and does even use our enemies at times to teach us and they never speak good about us. When our enemies speak nice to us we need to be wary. But we can be sure that the wounds of a brother are faithfully meant for our benefit.

Proverbs 27:6 "Faithful are the wounds of a friend; but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful."
 
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I've been called an atheist many times on these forums, but especially in the chat rooms. It's annoying because I believe in God, but I'm struggling to believe in Jesus' divinity. I'm not Muslim or anything, yet nor am I Christian (! hmm). But my ideas are somehow regarded as atheistic in their nature and people get mad at me asking stuff I'm serious about. Though I'm fine getting hate speech thrown at me, or even irritated Christians calling me atheist, because it keeps me perusing God.
 
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I've been called an atheist many times on these forums, but especially in the chat rooms. It's annoying because I believe in God, but I'm struggling to believe in Jesus' divinity. I'm not Muslim or anything, yet nor am I Christian (! hmm). But my ideas are somehow regarded as atheistic in their nature and people get mad at me asking stuff I'm serious about. Though I'm fine getting hate speech thrown at me, or even irritated Christians calling me atheist, because it keeps me perusing God.
Sorry they have treated you that way. As a Christian, I will not treat you that way, if you have questions that I can answer then I will answer them if not I will say I do not know. God bless. Sorry, you have been hassled so much.
 
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I've been called an atheist many times on these forums, but especially in the chat rooms. It's annoying because I believe in God, but I'm struggling to believe in Jesus' divinity. I'm not Muslim or anything, yet nor am I Christian (! hmm). But my ideas are somehow regarded as atheistic in their nature and people get mad at me asking stuff I'm serious about. Though I'm fine getting hate speech thrown at me, or even irritated Christians calling me atheist, because it keeps me perusing God.
If Jesus was not God manifest to us in the flesh then who was He?

Simply a great teacher?

Merely a prophet?

If so why do John and Paul write such...

oh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
Joh 1:4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
Joh 1:5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
Joh 1:6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
Joh 1:7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.
Joh 1:8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.
Joh 1:9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
Joh 1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
Joh 1:11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
Joh 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
Joh 1:13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
Joh 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Col 1:12 Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:
Col 1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
Col 1:14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:
Col 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
Col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
Col 1:17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
Col 1:19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;
Col 1:20 And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.

The Bible is very clear in regards to Jesus being God manifest in the flesh, the very image of God presented to us, the image of God whom is Spirit and thus cannot be directly perceived via the senses.

Food for thought. :)