Do Jews Have a Divine Right in the Promised Land?
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The only way that I can put it, that you may understand is the message I preach all day long. 18 million homes empty and 3 million homeless. We have enough physical wealth to supply every man with a home and food. Now WHATEVER in your mind and mine that has prevented us from freely giving these and all people the same, I SAY TODAY IS EXALTED AGAINST GOD. But we can change these things, me and you!
Matthew 6
The Messiah said the poor we will have always.
I say to you that you have an idea on how to solve the worlds problem.
I say to you that the Almighty God will work His work and accomplish all things.
What comes to pass will be for His Glory.
We are to share and help the poor.
In this world there will be rich, there will be poor, there will be pain and suffering, there will be sickness and disease, until God signals the end.
Seek the Kingdom of God.
The Messiah said the poor we will have always.
I say to you that you have an idea on how to solve the worlds problem.
I say to you that the Almighty God will work His work and accomplish all things.
What comes to pass will be for His Glory.
We are to share and help the poor.
In this world there will be rich, there will be poor, there will be pain and suffering, there will be sickness and disease, until God signals the end.
Seek the Kingdom of God.
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Mat5:17,18
Did Jesus give any indication that the old covenant is over? Is everything of the Old Testament (law and prophets) fullfilled?
No
I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.Rom 11:1
There is a secret truth, my friends, which I want you to know, for it will keep you from thinking how wise you are. It is that the stubbornness of the people of Israel is not permanent, but will last only until the complete number of Gentiles comes to God. And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes. For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance. Rom 12:25-28
For thy Maker is thine husband; the LORD of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called. For the LORD hath called thee as a woman forsaken and grieved in spirit, and a wife of youth, when thou wast refused, saith thy God. For a small moment have I forsaken thee; but with great mercies will I gather thee. In a little wrath I hid my face from thee for a moment; but with everlasting kindness will I have mercy on thee, saith the LORD thy Redeemer. For this is as the waters of Noah unto me: for as I have sworn that the waters of Noah should no more go over the earth; so have I sworn that I would not be wroth with thee, nor rebuke thee. For the mountains shall depart, and the hills be removed; but my kindness shall not depart from thee, neither shall the covenant of my peace be removed, saith the LORD that hath mercy on thee. Isaiah 45:5-11
The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him. Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem. And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.Zach 12:1-3
As is written in scripture in the last days God will return to His people. And yes...in Jerusalem, in Israël. Are they walking the right way all? No, but the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.
It is about Gods plan with the world. From where will He be King ruling over the new earth?
Did Jesus give any indication that the old covenant is over? Is everything of the Old Testament (law and prophets) fullfilled?
No
I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.Rom 11:1
There is a secret truth, my friends, which I want you to know, for it will keep you from thinking how wise you are. It is that the stubbornness of the people of Israel is not permanent, but will last only until the complete number of Gentiles comes to God. And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes. For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance. Rom 12:25-28
For thy Maker is thine husband; the LORD of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called. For the LORD hath called thee as a woman forsaken and grieved in spirit, and a wife of youth, when thou wast refused, saith thy God. For a small moment have I forsaken thee; but with great mercies will I gather thee. In a little wrath I hid my face from thee for a moment; but with everlasting kindness will I have mercy on thee, saith the LORD thy Redeemer. For this is as the waters of Noah unto me: for as I have sworn that the waters of Noah should no more go over the earth; so have I sworn that I would not be wroth with thee, nor rebuke thee. For the mountains shall depart, and the hills be removed; but my kindness shall not depart from thee, neither shall the covenant of my peace be removed, saith the LORD that hath mercy on thee. Isaiah 45:5-11
The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him. Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem. And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.Zach 12:1-3
As is written in scripture in the last days God will return to His people. And yes...in Jerusalem, in Israël. Are they walking the right way all? No, but the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.
It is about Gods plan with the world. From where will He be King ruling over the new earth?
You have not the power to cast out the Truth.
I will adhere and Trust in the Almighty God through Faith in His Son Yahshua the Messiah.
Through belief we are forgiven and cleansed.
What becomes of those who do not believe is recorded in the Bible.
If you are proposing something other than the above then i wish not to hear any more.
I will adhere and Trust in the Almighty God through Faith in His Son Yahshua the Messiah.
Through belief we are forgiven and cleansed.
What becomes of those who do not believe is recorded in the Bible.
If you are proposing something other than the above then i wish not to hear any more.
When Jesus, Yeshua, was here in the flesh, He encountered the hypocrite scribes and Pharisees. Were He to return today, He would encounter the same, only this time rabbinical teachings have been replaced by the theologies of man.
He is the King of the Jews, not of the nations. His nation is Israel, His subjects are all who believe Him, and the capital of His nation is New Jerusalem to be brought down from heaven in His time.
The Israel of this age is but a shadow of what the real Israel is. The Jews have been dispersed before and returned there, and again these are but a shadow of what is to come, a demonstration yet not the final return.
Jesus, Yeshua, walked His earth as a Jew, and He was brutally slain as King of the Jews. People began forgetting this as soon as the spirit of apostasy began setting in, as Paul said, it was already among the believers of his time.
Jesus tells us apostasy will abound when it is time for His return. Friends, I am afraid that apostasy is not going to proliferate in an instant, it has been growing in the world since our Lord ascended to the Right Hand of the Father, and it flourishes today in the guise of the new rabbinical teachings, the religions of the Bible. They all claim the Bible as their source yet they differ radically, and sometimes hatefully.
The answer is not Messianic Judaism, the answer is in learning from Jesus, Yeshua. The woman of Samaria said they were taught that salvation is from the Jews and the Messiah was to come from them. He answered her saying He is the Messiah.
The answer is to learn from Him keeping in mind always that He was a Jew, salvation is of the Jews, and if we believe, we are of the faith of Abraham, praisers of Yah.
Anyone who cannot accept these truths does not truly accept the Messiah.
Yes, the Jews have the Divine Right of the Promised Land, the one to come, amen.
He is the King of the Jews, not of the nations. His nation is Israel, His subjects are all who believe Him, and the capital of His nation is New Jerusalem to be brought down from heaven in His time.
The Israel of this age is but a shadow of what the real Israel is. The Jews have been dispersed before and returned there, and again these are but a shadow of what is to come, a demonstration yet not the final return.
Jesus, Yeshua, walked His earth as a Jew, and He was brutally slain as King of the Jews. People began forgetting this as soon as the spirit of apostasy began setting in, as Paul said, it was already among the believers of his time.
Jesus tells us apostasy will abound when it is time for His return. Friends, I am afraid that apostasy is not going to proliferate in an instant, it has been growing in the world since our Lord ascended to the Right Hand of the Father, and it flourishes today in the guise of the new rabbinical teachings, the religions of the Bible. They all claim the Bible as their source yet they differ radically, and sometimes hatefully.
The answer is not Messianic Judaism, the answer is in learning from Jesus, Yeshua. The woman of Samaria said they were taught that salvation is from the Jews and the Messiah was to come from them. He answered her saying He is the Messiah.
The answer is to learn from Him keeping in mind always that He was a Jew, salvation is of the Jews, and if we believe, we are of the faith of Abraham, praisers of Yah.
Anyone who cannot accept these truths does not truly accept the Messiah.
Yes, the Jews have the Divine Right of the Promised Land, the one to come, amen.
To understand verse Romans 11:25 properly you have to take all Paul said into account:
(1) It had been established in chapter 10 that Paul was upset that the Gentiles lacked zeal to preach to his fleshly relatives, asking them "How will they here without someone to preach?"
(2) Verse 1 shows the Gentiles being affected by the Jews persecution of them had caused them to act as though all the remaining Jews yet outside of Christ must have been completely cast off.
(3) Verses 2-5 argues that it is no different than in Elias day, that there is yet a remnant of them still out there. Only a remnant yet out there.
(4) Verses 6-11 shows that God did not take the full remnant all at once but was bringing that remnant in gradually so that the Gentiles could be benefited by being used to help bring the remainder of that remnant in.
(5) Verse 14 shows Paul was not speaking of all Jews yet out there being save, but only some, as in the remaining part of the remnant of them, just as in the days of Elias. (Compare Romans 10:1 showing Paul only hoped they might be saved.)
(6) Verse 15 Paul argues that the fulness of that remaining remnant yet out there is valuable to God, even as all human life from the dead even of the Gentiles is.
(7) Verse 16 Paul argues that if the firstfruits of that remnant be holy to God then the entire lump of that remnant yet out there must also be holy to God. (That gets missed to apply to all as in the entire Israel but that idea jumps from Paul's theme arguing for the remnant yet out there. We must stick with Paul's theme and his theme is that just as in Elias day there is yet part of a remnant still out there, even as Elias was the first part of that remnant back in his day and more of a remnant remained out there.)
(8) Verses 17-24 merely warns the Gentiles to not be so high minded because God could cut them back off that tree, as in permanently and revert back to only saving a remnant of those Jews rather than a remnant of both Jews and Gentiles.
(9) Verse 25, which actually says when properly translated and understood, Stop making this out as something mysterious in your ignorance. It is no mystery. That remaining part of that remnant which is yet out there, will be out there as it is being brought in along with the fulness of the Gentiles being brought in.
(10) Verse 26-31 (as compared to what Paul said at Romans 9: 6-15) is only telling us that remnant of all who are really Israel by the election of God (not of flesh) will be saved just as it was prophesied that remnant would be. It has never been prophesied that all would be saved which is why Paul clearly said he hoped to save some of them in verse 14. It is false doctrine that claims God ever said all Israel as in all Israel by flesh would be saved. And it the spirit of the Synagogue of Satan per Revelation 2:9 and 3:9 which has infiltrated that idea into the church.
(11) Verse 32 says, Romans 11:32 "For God hath concluded them [as in the remaining part of that remnant] all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all [of the remnant of both Jews and gentiles yet out there.].
Them is a word added by the translator in verse 32 and actually says, Romans 11:32 "For God hath concluded all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all." Which is the same exact thing Paul spoke of at Galatians 3:22. Read the entire Galatians chapter 3 and you will see all he meant at Romans 11:32.
I have been staying strictly to the scriptures with them all the way through our discussion. crossnote has injected opinion all over the place and has not stayed by scripture. He blasphemes Abraham and Paul in his opinions which go way outside of scripture, touting that Abraham had no faith before God approached him the way that the wicked generation of Jews back then demanded a sign before they could have faith. He is saying that is what Abraham did and blaspheming Abraham.
And he claims that Paul had not faith in God before his conversion on the road to Damascus. That is a blasphemy by missed understanding. You guys have mistaken faith in Christ with faith in the Father. It was on the basis of true faith in the Father that Abel was remembered and that Noah and his family was saved. Abraham's faith was in the Father. The Promises were given upon faith in the Father not upon faith in the seed that is Jesus and everyone has missed that, transferring that faith all over to Jesus who was back when the promises were made only the seed, the thing promised of God the Father and faith was in the word of the Father that God cannot lie.
And Paul had that. He lacked yet fully understanding the thing promised but his faith in God was strong.
Please grasp this and help me break this reign of the synagogue of Satan in the church. We need to educate ourselves so we can bring them to their knees.
(1) It had been established in chapter 10 that Paul was upset that the Gentiles lacked zeal to preach to his fleshly relatives, asking them "How will they here without someone to preach?"
(2) Verse 1 shows the Gentiles being affected by the Jews persecution of them had caused them to act as though all the remaining Jews yet outside of Christ must have been completely cast off.
(3) Verses 2-5 argues that it is no different than in Elias day, that there is yet a remnant of them still out there. Only a remnant yet out there.
(4) Verses 6-11 shows that God did not take the full remnant all at once but was bringing that remnant in gradually so that the Gentiles could be benefited by being used to help bring the remainder of that remnant in.
(5) Verse 14 shows Paul was not speaking of all Jews yet out there being save, but only some, as in the remaining part of the remnant of them, just as in the days of Elias. (Compare Romans 10:1 showing Paul only hoped they might be saved.)
(6) Verse 15 Paul argues that the fulness of that remaining remnant yet out there is valuable to God, even as all human life from the dead even of the Gentiles is.
(7) Verse 16 Paul argues that if the firstfruits of that remnant be holy to God then the entire lump of that remnant yet out there must also be holy to God. (That gets missed to apply to all as in the entire Israel but that idea jumps from Paul's theme arguing for the remnant yet out there. We must stick with Paul's theme and his theme is that just as in Elias day there is yet part of a remnant still out there, even as Elias was the first part of that remnant back in his day and more of a remnant remained out there.)
(8) Verses 17-24 merely warns the Gentiles to not be so high minded because God could cut them back off that tree, as in permanently and revert back to only saving a remnant of those Jews rather than a remnant of both Jews and Gentiles.
(9) Verse 25, which actually says when properly translated and understood, Stop making this out as something mysterious in your ignorance. It is no mystery. That remaining part of that remnant which is yet out there, will be out there as it is being brought in along with the fulness of the Gentiles being brought in.
(10) Verse 26-31 (as compared to what Paul said at Romans 9: 6-15) is only telling us that remnant of all who are really Israel by the election of God (not of flesh) will be saved just as it was prophesied that remnant would be. It has never been prophesied that all would be saved which is why Paul clearly said he hoped to save some of them in verse 14. It is false doctrine that claims God ever said all Israel as in all Israel by flesh would be saved. And it the spirit of the Synagogue of Satan per Revelation 2:9 and 3:9 which has infiltrated that idea into the church.
(11) Verse 32 says, Romans 11:32 "For God hath concluded them [as in the remaining part of that remnant] all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all [of the remnant of both Jews and gentiles yet out there.].
Them is a word added by the translator in verse 32 and actually says, Romans 11:32 "For God hath concluded all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all." Which is the same exact thing Paul spoke of at Galatians 3:22. Read the entire Galatians chapter 3 and you will see all he meant at Romans 11:32.
I have been staying strictly to the scriptures with them all the way through our discussion. crossnote has injected opinion all over the place and has not stayed by scripture. He blasphemes Abraham and Paul in his opinions which go way outside of scripture, touting that Abraham had no faith before God approached him the way that the wicked generation of Jews back then demanded a sign before they could have faith. He is saying that is what Abraham did and blaspheming Abraham.
And he claims that Paul had not faith in God before his conversion on the road to Damascus. That is a blasphemy by missed understanding. You guys have mistaken faith in Christ with faith in the Father. It was on the basis of true faith in the Father that Abel was remembered and that Noah and his family was saved. Abraham's faith was in the Father. The Promises were given upon faith in the Father not upon faith in the seed that is Jesus and everyone has missed that, transferring that faith all over to Jesus who was back when the promises were made only the seed, the thing promised of God the Father and faith was in the word of the Father that God cannot lie.
And Paul had that. He lacked yet fully understanding the thing promised but his faith in God was strong.
Please grasp this and help me break this reign of the synagogue of Satan in the church. We need to educate ourselves so we can bring them to their knees.
THERE IS MUCH CONFUSION OVER FAITH AND WHERE FAITH BEGINS.
Mark this into your minds with unalterable ink: Jesus said plainly, Matthew 11:27 "All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.
Remember what Jesus told Peter when Jesus asked who they thought Jesus was: Matthew 16:15 "He [Jesus] saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?
16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
THAT IS WHERE FAITH BEGINS. THAT IS WHERE FAITH BEGAN FOR ABEL, FOR ENOCH, AND FOR NOAH WHO BY IT FOUND THE DIVINE FAVOR OF GRACE IN GOD'S EYES. Genesis 6:8 "But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD."
THAT IS WHERE FAITH BEGAN FOR ABRAHAM, FOR ISAAC, AND FOR JACOB.
SARAH HAD TROUBLE WITH THAT BEGINNING FAITH BUT ABRAHAM DID NOT. THEREFORE GOD HAD TO TELL ABRAHAM TO LISTEN TO SARAH AND DO WHAT SARAH REQUESTED OF HIM. SO THEN ABRAHAM'S SIRING OFFSPRING BY SARAH'S MAID SERVANT WAS NOT ABRAHAM LACKING IN FAITH.
GOD TOLD ABRAHAM TO LISTEN TO SARAH SO THAT HE COULD CREATE THE LIVING ALLEGORY PAUL SPEAKS OF AT GALATIANS 4:21-31. GOD USE EVERYTHING CONNECTED TO ABRAHAM, ISAAC, AND JACOB BACK THEN TO CREATE VARIOUS ALLEGORIES FOR US TODAY TO ASSIST OUR ABILITY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT TOOK PLACE WITH FLESHLY ISRAEL VERSES GOD'S TRUE ISRAEL OF THE SPIRIT.
THAT FAITH HAS ALWAYS BEGAN IN GOD THE FATHER THAT HE CANNOT LIE!!! THAT IS THE BEGINNING FAITH THAT GOD BLESSED THAT SPIRIT OF FAITH BY THOSE IN GOD THAT HE CANNOT LIE. AS HIS TRUE ISRAEL OF A RIGHT SPIRIT WHICH BELIEVES WITH IT'S WHOLE HEART THAT GOD CANNOT LIE, GOD ELECTED THEM TO BE IN CHRIST WHERE BY BEING IN CHRIST THEY COULD THEN COME TO KNOW THE FATHER INTIMATELY IN TERMS OF HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS AND KNOW HOW TO RID THEMSELVES OF THEIR OWN FLAWED RIGHTEOUSNESS.
THE MEEK ARE THOSE WHO HAVE THAT FAITH THAT GOD CANNOT LIE. AND THAT HAS TO EXIST FIRST OR NO ONE WOULD EVER ACCEPT CHRIST. THE OT TELLS US THAT SINCE THE FIRST ONE, ABEL, SUCH MEEK ONES HAVE ALWAYS BEEN IN THE EARTH TO BE FOUND. IN FACT GOD MAKES IT CLEAR THAT HAD THEY NOT BEEN GOD WOULD HAVE JUST GONE AHEAD AND DESTROYED THE EARTH, COMPLETELY.
IT IS BLASPHEMY AGAINST GOD AND AGAINST ABRAHAM, PAUL, OR ANYONE, TO CLAIM THEY DID NOT HAVE TO HAVE THAT BEGINNING FAITH IN GOD THAT HE CANNOT LIE, BEFORE GOD COULD REVEAL CHRIST TO THEM, OR EVEN BEFORE GOD WOULD HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THEM IN TERMS OF BLESSING THEM WITH THE PROMISES.
THIS IS AN EXTREMELY SERIOUS MATTER FOLKS. IT CANNOT GET MORE SERIOUS AS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT BLASPHEMING GOD AND THE HOLY SPIRIT WHICH REVEALS THIS ERROR CONCERNING FAITH TO THE MANY THAT HAVE PUT IT ALL IN CHRIST AND FORGOTTEN TO TEACH THAT BEGINNING FAITH IN GOD.
HERE WHAT I SAY AND FEAR GOD.
ASK YOURSELVES IF CROSSNOTE'S CLAIM THAT I AM WRONG IN THIS BECAUSE OF WHAT PAUL SAID AT ROMANS 10:17.
Romans 10:17 "So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God."
ABSORB THAT A SECOND SO THAT YOU CAN SEE HOW SUBTLE FORCES ARE THAT MISLEAD.
NOW HEAR THIS: Matthew 13:14 "And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive.."
RIGHT THERE YOU CAN BEGIN TO UNRAVEL CROSSNOTE'S LIE. BUT DON'T HATE HIM AS HE MAY PERHAPS REPENT IT AND IF NOT THEN HE DESIRES TO BE RIGHT MORE THAN HE DESIRES TO KNOW TRUTH. IT WILL BE YOUR DUTY TO HIM AND TO GOD TO IGNORE HIM UNTIL HE DOES REPENT IT. OTHERWISE HE WILL ONLY BE CONTENT TO KEEP DECEIVING HIMSELF. AND TO ALLOW THAT WOULD NOT BE LOVING OF US.
AS I SAID, WE CAN BEGIN TO UNRAVEL THAT LIE, HERE, Matthew 13:14 "And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive.."
THEY HEARD BUT NO FAITH IN WHO CAME? NO FAITH IN CHRIST CAME. BUT, THAT DID NOT MEAN THAT THEY HAD NO FAITH IN GOD THAT HE CANNOT LIE SO THAT THEY WOULD ALSO HAVE NO FAITH THAT GOD WOULD DELIVER ON HIS PROMISES. ABOUT 2% OF THEM TODAY OUT OF THAT 10% THAT ACTUALLY EXPRESS BELIEF IN GOD, YET HOLD OUT HOPE OF REALIZING THOSE PROMISES. THEY JUST HAVE NOT YET UNDERSTOOD THAT THEY ARE FULFILLED IN JESUS AS THE MESSIAH. AND THAT TWO PERCENT MAY YET WAKE UP. COMPARE WHAT I HERE SAID TO THE LAST POST WHERE I DISCUSSED ROMANS CHAPTER 11 AND SHOWED THAT THE ENTIRE THEME STICKS TO THAT REMNANT, RATHER THAN TO THE WHOLE NATION.
FOR THE TRUE ISRAELITE BY THE SPIRIT OF FAITH IN GOD THAT HE CANNOT LIE AND THAT THEREFOR THESE PROMISES SURELY MUST COME, THEIR NOT ACCEPTING JESUS ONLY MEANT THAT THEY DID NOT UNDERSTAND THE WORD THEY HEARD ABOUT JESUS.
AND FOR THAT SMALL NUMBER WHO ACTUALLY HAD THAT MODICUM OF FAITH IN GOD THAT HE CANNOT LIE, THAT WAS BECAUSE IT REQUIRES GOD TO HELP THEM TO HAVE FAITH IN JESUS AS DISCUSSED AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS POST. THUS IT WAS ONLY TRUE FOR THAT SMALL NUMBER WHO ACTUALLY HAD THAT MODICUM OF FAITH IN GOD THAT HE CANNOT LIE THAT IT CAN BE SAID THAT GOD LET THEM REMAIN BLINDED.
THE ONES LACKING THAT MODICUM OF FAITH, OF WHICH PAUL WAS NOT ONE, THEY HAD BLINDED THEMSELVES THROUGH UNBELIEF OF THEIR OWN EMPTY MINDS THAT COULD NOT SEE GOD IN ALL THAT GOD HAS DONE AND IN CREATION AROUND THEM TO HAVE MODICUM OF FAITH IN GOD THAT GOD CANNOT LIE. WE SEE THAT TYPE ALL AROUND US.
BUT THAT IS WHERE READING WHAT PAUL SPEAKS CONFUSES MANY AS SOMETIMES HE IS SPEAKING OF THAT LARGER PORTION WHICH BLINDED THEMSELVES BY THEIR OWN UNWILLINGNESS TO BELIEVE EVEN IN THE FATHER. (LIKE THEY 8O TO 90 PERCENT OF ISRAEL TODAY), AND SOMETIMES PAUL WAS SPEAKING OF THE REMNANT (THAT SMALL NUMBER) YET BLIND BECAUSE GOD HAD NOT YET OPENED THEIR EYES AS GOD HAD RESERVED IT FOR THEM TO HAVE THEIR EYES OPENED BY BEING PREACHED TO BY THE GENTILES INCITING THEM TO JEALOUSY WHEN THEY PREACHED TO THEM.
WE HAVE TO DISCERN FROM THE CONTEXT AND OUR KNOWLEDGE OF ALL THAT PAUL HAS TOLD US, WHICH ONES OF THAT NATION PAUL IS SPEAKING OF WHEN HE SPEAKS.
MANY OF THEM LACKED THAT FAITH IN GOD THAT HE CANNOT LIE BUT THOSE ONES WOULD NOT TRY EVEN TO SERVE GOD BY THEIR OWN ZEAL. NO ONE SERVES GOD IF THEY DO NOT BELIEVE IN HIM AND THOSE ONES WOULD NOT BE AT ALL INTERESTED TO HEAR ANYONE PREACH TO THEM SO AS TO BE MADE JEALOUS BY THE ONE PREACHING TO THEM.
HOW DOES THAT JEALOUSY WORK? IT WORKS THAT IN WHEN THE GENTILE PREACHER CAME TO THEM TO PREACH TO THEM, THE ONES THAT HAD THAT FAITH IN GOD THAT HE CANNOT LIE WOULD NOT LIKE A GENTILE KNOWING MORE THAN THEY. AND THAT WOULD BE A FORCE TO MOVE THEM TO TRY HARDER TO THINK THE MATTER THROUGH.
THAT EFFORT OF THEIR FAITH IN GOD THAT HE CANNOT LIE GOD WOULD THEN BLESS AND REMOVE THE VEIL FROM OFF OF THEIR HEART.
BUT HE HAD LEFT THAT SMALL NUMBER OF THE BLINDED FOR THE SAKE OF THE GENTILES, FOR IF GOD WAS GOING TO HELP THE GENTILES TO BECOME IN DEPTH IN THEIR KNOWLEDGE IT WOULD MOST CERTAINLY BE BY HAVING THEM PREACH TO TRUE JEWS OF FAITH THAT HAD THAT BACKGROUND KNOWLEDGE. THAT WOULD MAKE A GENTILE HAVE TO WORK HIMSELF TO A FULLER UNDERSTANDING IN ORDER TO BE EFFICIENTLY ABLE TO PREACH TO THE JEW OF FAITH IN THE PROMISES OF GOS THAT HE CANNOT LIE.
I HOPE THIS CLEARS UP MUCH OF THE CONFUSION REIGNING HERE AND ENDS THE CURRENT BLASPHEMY OR AT LEAST MINIMIZES THAT BLASPHEMY BY EQUIPPING MORE TO WAGE SPIRITUAL WARFARE AGAINST IT.
Mark this into your minds with unalterable ink: Jesus said plainly, Matthew 11:27 "All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.
Remember what Jesus told Peter when Jesus asked who they thought Jesus was: Matthew 16:15 "He [Jesus] saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?
16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
THAT IS WHERE FAITH BEGINS. THAT IS WHERE FAITH BEGAN FOR ABEL, FOR ENOCH, AND FOR NOAH WHO BY IT FOUND THE DIVINE FAVOR OF GRACE IN GOD'S EYES. Genesis 6:8 "But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD."
THAT IS WHERE FAITH BEGAN FOR ABRAHAM, FOR ISAAC, AND FOR JACOB.
SARAH HAD TROUBLE WITH THAT BEGINNING FAITH BUT ABRAHAM DID NOT. THEREFORE GOD HAD TO TELL ABRAHAM TO LISTEN TO SARAH AND DO WHAT SARAH REQUESTED OF HIM. SO THEN ABRAHAM'S SIRING OFFSPRING BY SARAH'S MAID SERVANT WAS NOT ABRAHAM LACKING IN FAITH.
GOD TOLD ABRAHAM TO LISTEN TO SARAH SO THAT HE COULD CREATE THE LIVING ALLEGORY PAUL SPEAKS OF AT GALATIANS 4:21-31. GOD USE EVERYTHING CONNECTED TO ABRAHAM, ISAAC, AND JACOB BACK THEN TO CREATE VARIOUS ALLEGORIES FOR US TODAY TO ASSIST OUR ABILITY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT TOOK PLACE WITH FLESHLY ISRAEL VERSES GOD'S TRUE ISRAEL OF THE SPIRIT.
THAT FAITH HAS ALWAYS BEGAN IN GOD THE FATHER THAT HE CANNOT LIE!!! THAT IS THE BEGINNING FAITH THAT GOD BLESSED THAT SPIRIT OF FAITH BY THOSE IN GOD THAT HE CANNOT LIE. AS HIS TRUE ISRAEL OF A RIGHT SPIRIT WHICH BELIEVES WITH IT'S WHOLE HEART THAT GOD CANNOT LIE, GOD ELECTED THEM TO BE IN CHRIST WHERE BY BEING IN CHRIST THEY COULD THEN COME TO KNOW THE FATHER INTIMATELY IN TERMS OF HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS AND KNOW HOW TO RID THEMSELVES OF THEIR OWN FLAWED RIGHTEOUSNESS.
THE MEEK ARE THOSE WHO HAVE THAT FAITH THAT GOD CANNOT LIE. AND THAT HAS TO EXIST FIRST OR NO ONE WOULD EVER ACCEPT CHRIST. THE OT TELLS US THAT SINCE THE FIRST ONE, ABEL, SUCH MEEK ONES HAVE ALWAYS BEEN IN THE EARTH TO BE FOUND. IN FACT GOD MAKES IT CLEAR THAT HAD THEY NOT BEEN GOD WOULD HAVE JUST GONE AHEAD AND DESTROYED THE EARTH, COMPLETELY.
IT IS BLASPHEMY AGAINST GOD AND AGAINST ABRAHAM, PAUL, OR ANYONE, TO CLAIM THEY DID NOT HAVE TO HAVE THAT BEGINNING FAITH IN GOD THAT HE CANNOT LIE, BEFORE GOD COULD REVEAL CHRIST TO THEM, OR EVEN BEFORE GOD WOULD HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THEM IN TERMS OF BLESSING THEM WITH THE PROMISES.
THIS IS AN EXTREMELY SERIOUS MATTER FOLKS. IT CANNOT GET MORE SERIOUS AS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT BLASPHEMING GOD AND THE HOLY SPIRIT WHICH REVEALS THIS ERROR CONCERNING FAITH TO THE MANY THAT HAVE PUT IT ALL IN CHRIST AND FORGOTTEN TO TEACH THAT BEGINNING FAITH IN GOD.
HERE WHAT I SAY AND FEAR GOD.
ASK YOURSELVES IF CROSSNOTE'S CLAIM THAT I AM WRONG IN THIS BECAUSE OF WHAT PAUL SAID AT ROMANS 10:17.
Romans 10:17 "So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God."
ABSORB THAT A SECOND SO THAT YOU CAN SEE HOW SUBTLE FORCES ARE THAT MISLEAD.
NOW HEAR THIS: Matthew 13:14 "And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive.."
RIGHT THERE YOU CAN BEGIN TO UNRAVEL CROSSNOTE'S LIE. BUT DON'T HATE HIM AS HE MAY PERHAPS REPENT IT AND IF NOT THEN HE DESIRES TO BE RIGHT MORE THAN HE DESIRES TO KNOW TRUTH. IT WILL BE YOUR DUTY TO HIM AND TO GOD TO IGNORE HIM UNTIL HE DOES REPENT IT. OTHERWISE HE WILL ONLY BE CONTENT TO KEEP DECEIVING HIMSELF. AND TO ALLOW THAT WOULD NOT BE LOVING OF US.
AS I SAID, WE CAN BEGIN TO UNRAVEL THAT LIE, HERE, Matthew 13:14 "And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive.."
THEY HEARD BUT NO FAITH IN WHO CAME? NO FAITH IN CHRIST CAME. BUT, THAT DID NOT MEAN THAT THEY HAD NO FAITH IN GOD THAT HE CANNOT LIE SO THAT THEY WOULD ALSO HAVE NO FAITH THAT GOD WOULD DELIVER ON HIS PROMISES. ABOUT 2% OF THEM TODAY OUT OF THAT 10% THAT ACTUALLY EXPRESS BELIEF IN GOD, YET HOLD OUT HOPE OF REALIZING THOSE PROMISES. THEY JUST HAVE NOT YET UNDERSTOOD THAT THEY ARE FULFILLED IN JESUS AS THE MESSIAH. AND THAT TWO PERCENT MAY YET WAKE UP. COMPARE WHAT I HERE SAID TO THE LAST POST WHERE I DISCUSSED ROMANS CHAPTER 11 AND SHOWED THAT THE ENTIRE THEME STICKS TO THAT REMNANT, RATHER THAN TO THE WHOLE NATION.
FOR THE TRUE ISRAELITE BY THE SPIRIT OF FAITH IN GOD THAT HE CANNOT LIE AND THAT THEREFOR THESE PROMISES SURELY MUST COME, THEIR NOT ACCEPTING JESUS ONLY MEANT THAT THEY DID NOT UNDERSTAND THE WORD THEY HEARD ABOUT JESUS.
AND FOR THAT SMALL NUMBER WHO ACTUALLY HAD THAT MODICUM OF FAITH IN GOD THAT HE CANNOT LIE, THAT WAS BECAUSE IT REQUIRES GOD TO HELP THEM TO HAVE FAITH IN JESUS AS DISCUSSED AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS POST. THUS IT WAS ONLY TRUE FOR THAT SMALL NUMBER WHO ACTUALLY HAD THAT MODICUM OF FAITH IN GOD THAT HE CANNOT LIE THAT IT CAN BE SAID THAT GOD LET THEM REMAIN BLINDED.
THE ONES LACKING THAT MODICUM OF FAITH, OF WHICH PAUL WAS NOT ONE, THEY HAD BLINDED THEMSELVES THROUGH UNBELIEF OF THEIR OWN EMPTY MINDS THAT COULD NOT SEE GOD IN ALL THAT GOD HAS DONE AND IN CREATION AROUND THEM TO HAVE MODICUM OF FAITH IN GOD THAT GOD CANNOT LIE. WE SEE THAT TYPE ALL AROUND US.
BUT THAT IS WHERE READING WHAT PAUL SPEAKS CONFUSES MANY AS SOMETIMES HE IS SPEAKING OF THAT LARGER PORTION WHICH BLINDED THEMSELVES BY THEIR OWN UNWILLINGNESS TO BELIEVE EVEN IN THE FATHER. (LIKE THEY 8O TO 90 PERCENT OF ISRAEL TODAY), AND SOMETIMES PAUL WAS SPEAKING OF THE REMNANT (THAT SMALL NUMBER) YET BLIND BECAUSE GOD HAD NOT YET OPENED THEIR EYES AS GOD HAD RESERVED IT FOR THEM TO HAVE THEIR EYES OPENED BY BEING PREACHED TO BY THE GENTILES INCITING THEM TO JEALOUSY WHEN THEY PREACHED TO THEM.
WE HAVE TO DISCERN FROM THE CONTEXT AND OUR KNOWLEDGE OF ALL THAT PAUL HAS TOLD US, WHICH ONES OF THAT NATION PAUL IS SPEAKING OF WHEN HE SPEAKS.
MANY OF THEM LACKED THAT FAITH IN GOD THAT HE CANNOT LIE BUT THOSE ONES WOULD NOT TRY EVEN TO SERVE GOD BY THEIR OWN ZEAL. NO ONE SERVES GOD IF THEY DO NOT BELIEVE IN HIM AND THOSE ONES WOULD NOT BE AT ALL INTERESTED TO HEAR ANYONE PREACH TO THEM SO AS TO BE MADE JEALOUS BY THE ONE PREACHING TO THEM.
HOW DOES THAT JEALOUSY WORK? IT WORKS THAT IN WHEN THE GENTILE PREACHER CAME TO THEM TO PREACH TO THEM, THE ONES THAT HAD THAT FAITH IN GOD THAT HE CANNOT LIE WOULD NOT LIKE A GENTILE KNOWING MORE THAN THEY. AND THAT WOULD BE A FORCE TO MOVE THEM TO TRY HARDER TO THINK THE MATTER THROUGH.
THAT EFFORT OF THEIR FAITH IN GOD THAT HE CANNOT LIE GOD WOULD THEN BLESS AND REMOVE THE VEIL FROM OFF OF THEIR HEART.
BUT HE HAD LEFT THAT SMALL NUMBER OF THE BLINDED FOR THE SAKE OF THE GENTILES, FOR IF GOD WAS GOING TO HELP THE GENTILES TO BECOME IN DEPTH IN THEIR KNOWLEDGE IT WOULD MOST CERTAINLY BE BY HAVING THEM PREACH TO TRUE JEWS OF FAITH THAT HAD THAT BACKGROUND KNOWLEDGE. THAT WOULD MAKE A GENTILE HAVE TO WORK HIMSELF TO A FULLER UNDERSTANDING IN ORDER TO BE EFFICIENTLY ABLE TO PREACH TO THE JEW OF FAITH IN THE PROMISES OF GOS THAT HE CANNOT LIE.
I HOPE THIS CLEARS UP MUCH OF THE CONFUSION REIGNING HERE AND ENDS THE CURRENT BLASPHEMY OR AT LEAST MINIMIZES THAT BLASPHEMY BY EQUIPPING MORE TO WAGE SPIRITUAL WARFARE AGAINST IT.
I just let facts speak for themselves and they dont need 20,000 pages of theological persuasion. If you are following a theology which requires you to work extremely hard in "proving" it and you are finding other passages in Bible also need another 20,000 pages of writing to back that up, then its obvious its a false theology.
FACT: Jews have never really been a nation of believers and have always rebelled against God.
FACT : Babylon enslavement extended to 2520 years.
FACT: 1948 is the end of the 2520 years and Jews are allowed to rule their own lands again.
FACT : Prophecy is fufilled and the continuation of Gods Genesis covenant for the Jews continues.
Here are facts, plain simple and they speak for themselves, which is supported by Bible.
Using the argument that the Jews in Israel today are not believers in God therefore they are fake jews and Israel is not the Israel of Bible, is utterly foolish and ridiculous statement to make. Since when has the nation of Israel in Bible ever had a population which have been a nation of believers let alone completely committed to God? Jews today are simply doing what they have done since they were led out of Egypt.
Prophecy shows us the only time they will as a nation accept Christ is right at the last moment before the Beast and Flase Prophet finally destroy them all and Jesus shows up.
Jews have never been united as a nation believing in God. Even when Moses was up the mountain collecting 10 commandments, the Israelites were building altars and worshipping false gods, even thought they would have witnessed Gods miricles and judgements to remove them from slavery. This set the trend for rest of history.
Move on to Babylon enslavement, yet again the Jews angered God for disobedience and worship of false gods so God had the population enslaved as punishment. This ended when Persians under King Cyrus invaded Babylon. The Jews were told to go home, God expected them to build a temple, burn sacrifices and under go a period of repentance , but they did not do this. SO instead they are punished further, the initial enslavement under the Babylonians was extended 7 times which lasted 2520 years, we see how the Jews and theirs lands were continually under occupation for this period.
This leads us on to another fact, that Israel regained its self rule and its lands in 1948, which was right on time as the 2520 years had just ended.
Read Ezekiel chapter 4 and see Leviticus 26 for the punishments handed down being seven times the original.
Israel today is a thorn in many Christians side, as it challenges numerous theologies they have been taught and decided to follow. Many of these put Christians on a pedastool and elvate Christians and the church above Jews and above Isreal, which of course is rather good news to many Christians as it puts everyone at number one spot and those evil wicked Zionists along with the evil fake non-believer Jews can rot under their feet and in hell.
FACT: Jews have never really been a nation of believers and have always rebelled against God.
FACT : Babylon enslavement extended to 2520 years.
FACT: 1948 is the end of the 2520 years and Jews are allowed to rule their own lands again.
FACT : Prophecy is fufilled and the continuation of Gods Genesis covenant for the Jews continues.
Here are facts, plain simple and they speak for themselves, which is supported by Bible.
Using the argument that the Jews in Israel today are not believers in God therefore they are fake jews and Israel is not the Israel of Bible, is utterly foolish and ridiculous statement to make. Since when has the nation of Israel in Bible ever had a population which have been a nation of believers let alone completely committed to God? Jews today are simply doing what they have done since they were led out of Egypt.
Prophecy shows us the only time they will as a nation accept Christ is right at the last moment before the Beast and Flase Prophet finally destroy them all and Jesus shows up.
Jews have never been united as a nation believing in God. Even when Moses was up the mountain collecting 10 commandments, the Israelites were building altars and worshipping false gods, even thought they would have witnessed Gods miricles and judgements to remove them from slavery. This set the trend for rest of history.
Move on to Babylon enslavement, yet again the Jews angered God for disobedience and worship of false gods so God had the population enslaved as punishment. This ended when Persians under King Cyrus invaded Babylon. The Jews were told to go home, God expected them to build a temple, burn sacrifices and under go a period of repentance , but they did not do this. SO instead they are punished further, the initial enslavement under the Babylonians was extended 7 times which lasted 2520 years, we see how the Jews and theirs lands were continually under occupation for this period.
This leads us on to another fact, that Israel regained its self rule and its lands in 1948, which was right on time as the 2520 years had just ended.
Read Ezekiel chapter 4 and see Leviticus 26 for the punishments handed down being seven times the original.
Israel today is a thorn in many Christians side, as it challenges numerous theologies they have been taught and decided to follow. Many of these put Christians on a pedastool and elvate Christians and the church above Jews and above Isreal, which of course is rather good news to many Christians as it puts everyone at number one spot and those evil wicked Zionists along with the evil fake non-believer Jews can rot under their feet and in hell.
It is not me you reject. I am speaking the clear word of God to you.
Doing what you prefer and so rejecting what God has told you is not at all uncommon to then or to now.
But, hey, that is your choice to make.
One who truly loves God always leans the way of listening to God.
And none of you who place your personally preferred views over a sincere leaning into God's word will do that.
Doing what you prefer and so rejecting what God has told you is not at all uncommon to then or to now.
But, hey, that is your choice to make.
One who truly loves God always leans the way of listening to God.
And none of you who place your personally preferred views over a sincere leaning into God's word will do that.
Strange how everyone claims they have special message from God that is 100% truth, It is also a punch below the belt. I have seen more than enough "debate" on these and other forums where both sides claim the same thing as you are claiming. Both can not be right, more like bother are just as wrong.
As I said, just look at the facts and examine what it says in Bible, it there, plain and simple and clear as day, dosnt need 20,000 words to explain either.
As I said, just look at the facts and examine what it says in Bible, it there, plain and simple and clear as day, dosnt need 20,000 words to explain either.
You are basically saying "screw the poor" are you not? All I'm saying is that we need to get rid of these childish things. There is no need for money these days other than to perpetuate and expand having respect for persons. We have enough, and you tell me that I'm suggesting that we not adhere to the bible?The will of God does not include starving millions. That is the will of man and nothing else.