Is God Unfair?

[kardiaoangelous]

But it has arrived and you missed the first harvest. That is not a sentence of death to you. Now your life will come by living fountains of water if you are humble enough to drink.

 

[Ephraim]

Is there really any difference between many of the professed Christians here than there is here as follows?

Atheists: How do you feel about Christians telling you that you need to repent and accept Jesus? - Yahoo! Answers

This is the other coin-side of the point I've tried to make to you about how you speak to other people. Profession means little compared to action, tone, demeanor, manner and perspective.

 

[silverdollar]

Don't let the flesh you see which masquerades as God's church cheat you out of seeing God's true spiritual Church.

here's the part that's weird for me.
what do you mean flesh masguerading as Gods church? and Gods true spiritual church?
christians have flesh bodies. i don't know what you mean.
could some explain this to me because i read it everywhere here.

isnt it our sinful mind we have to learn self control and make our bodies obey our new mind. i dont understand why the flesh is evil.
i dont believe it is. i know the ible said it is corruptable and it will go into ashes one day, that's okay, but i dont think my body is sinful. its the mind that is. isnt it?

people say thats your flesh talking or your flesh is in the way.
what? you mean things like pride and anger and so on, because those are sins and thats from someone spirit which is their mind isnt it?
it seems like blaming everything on the flesh seems like a way to say you dont sin because your spirit doesnt sin. that makes no sense to me.

 

[Ephraim]

here's the part that's weird for me.
what do you mean flesh masguerading as Gods church? and Gods true spiritual church?
christians have flesh bodies. i don't know what you mean.
could some explain this to me because i read it everywhere here.

isnt it our sinful mind we have to learn self control and make our bodies obey our new mind. i dont understand why the flesh is evil.
i dont believe it is. i know the ible said it is corruptable and it will go into ashes one day, that's okay, but i dont think my body is sinful. its the mind that is. isnt it?

people say thats your flesh talking or your flesh is in the way.
what? you mean things like pride and anger and so on, because those are sins and thats from someone spirit which is their mind isnt it?
it seems like blaming everything on the flesh seems like a way to say you dont sin because your spirit doesnt sin. that makes no sense to me.

'Flesh' in the bible is really meaning 'human nature'. You're totally correct, it's all to do with the mind. When the bible says 'heart', read 'mind'. It was widely accepted back then that the 'heart' was the source of emotions and motives and all the rest. Now we know it's the mind and that the heart just pumps blood round the body. But we still use the expression. 'The heart of you', it's like saying 'right in your centre'. It's where your thoughts come from.

 

[kardiaoangelous]

No, Eph 2:15 presents it as the law, whose cleanliness regulations were a barrier, or wall of partition (v.14), which kept the Jews separated from the Gentiles in order to avoid defilement by them.


The inner curtain was ripped from top to bottom, so torn in two is a better description.

Hebrews reveals that the curtain represented Christ's flesh which was torn to open the way directly to God for us, through faith in his blood (Ro 3:25).


Thanks for your response.

Jesus is adequate to be that rip from top to bottom, yes.

Don't on one hand call him the way and then on the other hand think of things that, whether you realize it or not, claim that by means of what he did we now walk around him.

He has to be that rip. He is our passage way to God and that is why he is called the way, and the truth, and the life.

 

[silverdollar]

'Flesh' in the bible is really meaning 'human nature'. You're totally correct, it's all to do with the mind. When the bible says 'heart', read 'mind'. It was widely accepted back then that the 'heart' was the source of emotions and motives and all the rest. Now we know it's the mind and that the heart just pumps blood round the body. But we still use the expression. 'The heart of you', it's like saying 'right in your centre'. It's where your thoughts come from.

ok, thank you very much for answering that. it was odd it seems to me.
everybody saying you're speaking in the flesh and so on.lol.
but, even our human nature we still have that, right\? we are still human beings Jesus became a human being.
i know he was aperfect human being, we aren't. but what's wrong with our human nature?
you mean like Adam's sinful nature? that would make sense. but everyone has a human nature.
i dont see whats wrong with the human nature, just like i dont think our bodies are evil.

maybe its about the spirit that was turned away from God is what my teacher said when Adam fell.
turned away, dead to God like when someone says "you are dead to me" but they aren't really dead. or lese they would just be zombies.

oh, thanks anyways. i don't think i'm going to overthink it too much. i think its just the old sinful self that was considered dead to God because of sin, and then Jesus brightens the christians, makes a new man because the spirit or the mind is made right with God and the mind can control the body.
i dont know if that wrong. i have to sleep for an hour and go to work.

 

[kardiaoangelous]

here's the part that's weird for me.
what do you mean flesh masguerading as Gods church? and Gods true spiritual church?
christians have flesh bodies. i don't know what you mean.
could some explain this to me because i read it everywhere here.

isnt it our sinful mind we have to learn self control and make our bodies obey our new mind. i dont understand why the flesh is evil.
i dont believe it is. i know the ible said it is corruptable and it will go into ashes one day, that's okay, but i dont think my body is sinful. its the mind that is. isnt it?

people say thats your flesh talking or your flesh is in the way.
what? you mean things like pride and anger and so on, because those are sins and thats from someone spirit which is their mind isnt it?
it seems like blaming everything on the flesh seems like a way to say you dont sin because your spirit doesnt sin. that makes no sense to me.

The new mind is like being pregnant. You cannot be a little bit pregnant. You either are or your aren't.

Like Jmlidea asking whether we can say that we never have lust toward women. If you have that new mind you don't have lusts toward women. If you do not have that new mind, then you yet do have that lust toward women.

That is also similar to those that claim that it is natural to masturbate. They have not cleansed their mind of fallen ways of thinking. And make no mistake about it, our lusts are based in what we have a love for thinking about. And Satan's ministers are mystifying understanding the spirit to you so that you will not see how you do have the ability to control that fallen spirit and bring it to rise into a habitual obedience to God where it no longer entertains it's former lusts.

Let's examine a few of the places the scriptures tells us about that force controling our carnal mind:

Proverbs 16:32 "He that is slow to anger is better than the mighty; and he that ruleth his spirit than he that taketh a city."

Proverbs 16:18 "Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall."

Try to grasp from the following scripture that the reason God pours his spirit out on us is not so that we can then say proudly, "I am healed in God's spirit!!!" He does it so that we can learn from it and with his spirit train our own spirit:

Proverbs 1:22 How long, ye simple ones, will ye love simplicity? and the scorners delight in their scorning, and fools hate knowledge?
23 Turn you at my reproof: behold, I will pour out my spirit unto you, I will make known my words unto you.
24 Because I have called, and ye refused; I have stretched out my hand, and no man regarded;
25 But ye have set at nought all my counsel, and would none of my reproof:
26 I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh;

So from that we can see how many are only being ministers to spread more blindness. For they tout that God does it all for them and that this was all finished for them on the cross when that was clearly only a beginning.

 

[kardiaoangelous]

ok, thank you very much for answering that. it was odd it seems to me.
everybody saying you're speaking in the flesh and so on.lol.
but, even our human nature we still have that, right\? we are still human beings Jesus became a human being.
i know he was aperfect human being, we aren't. but what's wrong with our human nature?
you mean like Adam's sinful nature? that would make sense. but everyone has a human nature.
i dont see whats wrong with the human nature, just like i dont think our bodies are evil.

maybe its about the spirit that was turned away from God is what my teacher said when Adam fell.
turned away, dead to God like when someone says "you are dead to me" but they aren't really dead. or lese they would just be zombies.

oh, thanks anyways. i don't think i'm going to overthink it too much. i think its just the old sinful self that was considered dead to God because of sin, and then Jesus brightens the christians, makes a new man because the spirit or the mind is made right with God and the mind can control the body.
i dont know if that wrong. i have to sleep for an hour and go to work.

Flesh does not mean human nature. No where in the Bible does it say that. Flesh merely means we have let our spirit fall away from living in the righteousness of God having preferred instead to predominantly think about pampering our flesh more so than we care to meditate upon God's righteousness. Thus we have made our fleshly body as an idol between us and God's spirit of righteousness.

The sin nature is another false doctrine of Satan aimed at locking men into blindness.

 

[homwardbound]

You speak completely true.

I do not advocate over confidence, either. In fact, that is why it is so very important we discern clearly when Paul and John are speaking to the old man and when they are speaking to the new. When they are speaking to the babe in Christ and when they are speaking to the mature in Christ.

I most certainly have not gotten to this point over night where I am at that I no longer have the old lusts in myself. And I am keenly aware, knowing what it took to make those lusts die, that if I once had those lusts I could yet fall back into those lusts again, even as the perfect angels could sin and even as the perfect Adam and Eve could sin.

I do not claim to have yet put on that end crown of incorruptibility which Paul speaks of at 1 Corinthians 9:25.

But that prize is only given to those who in this present life do achieve actual holiness. That incorruptible crown is then what they add to that holiness. And that is what makes immortality possible. No chance of corruption = no chance of ever falling back once again prey to sin = an immortal or everlastingly assured existence before God.

When it came to false doctrine neither Jesus nor myself nor anyone who points it out is accusing. They are speaking to the reality of what is.

Even as when Jesus told Peter, "Get thee behind me Satan for you speak not God's thoughts but man's!"

Thank you deeply I heard about discerning truth there who is Paul, peter,James and or John , and all the rest speaking to and about what and why is WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! so very important and I am elated knowing God will discern these things needed to be discerned and make me aware and yet keep me in humility in order toi fruitful in others to mature
Thanks Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hear the Spirit and am WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! keep it comiing as you are led.

 

[Elin]

here's the part that's weird for me.
what do you mean flesh masguerading as Gods church? and Gods true spiritual church?
christians have flesh bodies. i don't know what you mean.
could some explain this to me because i read it everywhere here.

isnt it our sinful mind we have to learn self control and make our bodies obey our new mind. i dont understand why the flesh is evil.
i dont believe it is. i know the ible said it is corruptable and it will go into ashes one day, that's okay, but i dont think my body is sinful. its the mind that is. isnt it?

people say thats your flesh talking or your flesh is in the way.
what? you mean things like pride and anger and so on, because those are sins and thats from someone spirit which is their mind isnt it?
it seems like blaming everything on the flesh seems like a way to say you dont sin because your spirit doesnt sin. that makes no sense to me.

"Flesh" was the way Paul described the old sinful nature, and "spiritual" was the way he described the new born-again nature.

 

[homwardbound]

What was not seen by you homward, was what went on here on my end that led to all of this. You did not see that it was as if everyone was completely ignoring me but for an occasional return comment by men as yourself.

And so God spoke to me and asked, "Why are you bewildered that they should not be listening?" To which I replied, "I want so badly to share what you have taught me, what good is it if I cannot use it to help others?"

The Lord spoke back to me and said, "You know how to get them to listen."

So I in return asked, "How is it that I know how to get them to listen but cannot seem to think of it?"

The Lord answered back again and said, " Have I not told you to behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you. And also told you the ways?"

And then it hit me. So i responded back to the Lord, "Yes, you have furnished me with your truth that no man, matter not how they fight against it cannot defeat it and you have told me that I must be as cunning as those serpents while at the same time remaining gentle as a dove."

And once again the Lord replied, "You have missed dividing a valuable piece of my word with correctness. I did not tell you to be as gentle as a dove. I told you to cleanse my temple. Now tell me how that can be done gently?"

So I went to the scripture at Matthew 10:16 and examined it deeper. I found out that he had not told me there to be gentle but to be innocent of sinning against others using personal opinion. And I realized that what we judge we must judge for the sake of keeping his temple clean, but doing so judging by his word rather than our own personal opinion.

And thus I understood, Matthew 7:5b ".... then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye."

So I revisited my posting here with all of that in mind, knowing that where people shun even looking at what does not rile them and remain pacified glorying in themselves, if i would be brave enough to call out the very judgment of the word itself to them they would hate it and they would not be able to resist looking because they would want to destroy it.

It worked of God's wisdom just as he said that it would.

Did all learn? Of course not. But some did. And some more than others.

I am able to do that now that I understand that wisdom from God, as it is not at all about me. I really do not care at all what anyone thinks of me but God. Life itself pummeled me into not caring about what others think of me. LOL. I don't even rejoice in me.

This is because you know that God himself has
[h=3]Ephesians 1:6-7[/h]New King James Version (NKJV)

[SUP]6 [/SUP]to the praise of the glory of His grace, by which He made us accepted in the Beloved.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]In Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of His grace

And you need no other man to approve or disapprove. And by this we both know this tha this next verses are for us all today that beleive

[h=3]Matthew 10:16-20[/h]New King James Version (NKJV)

[h=3]Persecutions Are Coming[/h][SUP]16 [/SUP]“Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves. Therefore be wise as serpents and harmless as doves. [SUP]17 [/SUP]But beware of men, for they will deliver you up to councils and scourge you in their synagogues. [SUP]18 [/SUP]You will be brought before governors and kings for My sake, as a testimony to them and to the Gentiles. [SUP]19 [/SUP]But when they deliver you up, do not worry about how or what you should speak. For it will be given to you in that hour what you should speak; [SUP]20 [/SUP]for it is not you who speak, but the Spirit of your Father who speaks in you.
The above is what you have learned by God and from God and day by day remmebering this truth as I am doing the same Thank you for the insight God has given you, it is and has helped in my walk with God by the Son through the cross where I found all the riches in Christ by the resurrection.
Thanks again my deep brother in Christ

 

[Elin]

ok, thank you very much for answering that. it was odd it seems to me.
everybody saying you're speaking in the flesh and so on.lol.
but, even our human nature we still have that, right\? we are still human beings Jesus became a human being.
i know he was aperfect human being, we aren't. but what's wrong with our human nature?

Our unregenerate (not born again) human nature is fallen and sinful.

Even after we are born again, it is not completely dead until the grave.
But it is mortally wounded and dying.

you mean like Adam's sinful nature? that would make sense. but everyone has a human nature.
i dont see whats wrong with the human nature, just like i dont think our bodies are evil.

Keep in mind how Paul uses the term "flesh."

maybe its about the spirit that was turned away from God is what my teacher said when Adam fell.
turned away, dead to God like when someone says "you are dead to me" but they aren't really dead. or lese they would just be zombies.

oh, thanks anyways. i don't think i'm going to overthink it too much. i think its just the old sinful self that was considered dead to God because of sin, and then Jesus brightens the christians, makes a new man because the spirit or the mind is made right with God and the mind can control the body.
i dont know if that wrong. i have to sleep for an hour and go to work.

 

[homwardbound]

Looks like I have two options, trust me or trust a God who enjoys telling his slaves that they are worthless piles of sinful scum and that ALLLL you need to do is do my every bidding to receive salvation... because my ways are not God's ways, and his ways are better than mine... and who are we to question our master? who are we to think for ourselves? how dare a slave turn against his master?

God through Christ after the cross has become our friend and tells us all truth in us each as our teacher via the Holy Ghost that Goid polaces in us thge first day of belief to teachus all truth the truth that sets us free
We are today able to ? God in all things how else will we learn
Romans 5:8But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

 

[kardiaoangelous]

This is the other coin-side of the point I've tried to make to you about how you speak to other people. Profession means little compared to action, tone, demeanor, manner and perspective.

Yes it does have it's place when speaking to ones with furtile soil in their hearts so that we do not stumble them.

But in this chat site we do not have many of those types of people. What we have here are people who have hearts filled and hardened by the enemies seed, though they do not know it.

When one digs in fertile soil they can use the gentle push of the spade to plant a seed that remains so that all they need do after is water it.

Not so here in CC. Here we have rock hard ground that refuses to let itself accept that seed, and so the true soldier of Christ knows how and is brave enough to get out a pick to work with.

You will naturally see that as you do. That is why both Jesus and Phillip prayed for those that killed him, "Father, hold not this sin against them, for they know not what they do."

 

[kardiaoangelous]

"Flesh" was the way Paul described the old sinful nature, and "spiritual" was the way he described the new born-again nature.

there is some talk about nature but you have it confused in with what paul said. Romans 2:14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:

All the word nature implies is what they have, through how they were brought up and the things that they practiced, gotten engrained into their hearts to form habits. (Habitual nature)

This keeps with what Paul told you: Romans 1:19 ¶Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

Get this engrained into your understanding as it is all through the scriptures in many places. Here is but a few examples:

Exodus 32:7 And the LORD said unto Moses, Go, get thee down; for thy people, which thou broughtest out of the land of Egypt, have corrupted themselves:

Deuteronomy 32:5 They have corrupted themselves, their spot is not the spot of his children: they are a perverse and crooked generation.

Hosea 9:9 They have deeply corrupted themselves, as in the days of Gibeah: therefore he will remember their iniquity, he will visit their sins.

Genesis 6:12 And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth. (KJV)

Genesis 6:12 "And when God had seen that the earth was corrupted (for all flesh had corrupted its way upon the earth,) (Douay-Rheims)

How did that happen?

Think about the Proverb which tells you that "iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens the face of another."

2 Corinthians 7:2 Receive us; we have wronged no man, we have corrupted no man, we have defrauded no man.

2 Corinthians 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

 

[silverdollar]

there is some talk about nature but you have it confused in with what paul said. Romans 2:14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:

All the word nature implies is what they have, through how they were brought up and the things that they practiced, gotten engrained into their hearts to form habits. (Habitual nature)

This keeps with what Paul told you: Romans 1:19 ¶Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

Get this engrained into your understanding as it is all through the scriptures in many places. Here is but a few examples:

Exodus 32:7 And the LORD said unto Moses, Go, get thee down; for thy people, which thou broughtest out of the land of Egypt, have corrupted themselves:

Deuteronomy 32:5 They have corrupted themselves, their spot is not the spot of his children: they are a perverse and crooked generation.

Hosea 9:9 They have deeply corrupted themselves, as in the days of Gibeah: therefore he will remember their iniquity, he will visit their sins.

Genesis 6:12 And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth. (KJV)

Genesis 6:12 "And when God had seen that the earth was corrupted (for all flesh had corrupted its way upon the earth,) (Douay-Rheims)

How did that happen?

Think about the Proverb which tells you that "iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens the face of another."

2 Corinthians 7:2 Receive us; we have wronged no man, we have corrupted no man, we have defrauded no man.

2 Corinthians 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

man i think you think way too much of yourself.
i think you are full of it. lol.

 

[silverdollar]

Our unregenerate (not born again) human nature is fallen and sinful.

Even after we are born again, it is not completely dead until the grave.
But it is mortally wounded and dying.


Keep in mind how Paul uses the term "flesh."

ok thank you. so is it right to say the person i used to before Jesus came and confronted me and accepted me and lighted my mind was the old unregenertae self like Adam?
because that's what it seems like to me.

about the flesh and how paul describes it could you explain it , i will look up the parts where paul talks about it.
because my body didnt change much after i got saved but my mind or spirit did.
so then i learned to control my body more. i dont understand when people keep saying o you are of the flesh and so on. thats weird.

 

[homwardbound]

To do loves bidding as God is love one first must understand true love.

The evidence in the world all around you is that man does not understand what true love is. Despite the many who claim that they can love by trusting in their own instincts as to how to love works, their love is shown weak by it not having the power to keep them from hate and killing each other.

I would think that you would see that love must have both a tough side to it as well as a gentle side to be able to be a force to put down evil in all of the earth.

Of course those that ascribe to Marxist rational reasoning would not see that and they would interpret God as being both good in a positive personality sense and evil in a negative personality sense.

If you could see clearly, all God is asking of anyone is they not simply say that they love, but pay attention to him so as to be able to really learn how to love.

Marxism equates with a belief that knowledge and wisdom in the flesh is adequate and seeks to blame religion as the thing which interferes with it not being so.

They are self-deceived as man on his own will always judge matters imperfectly when he relies on his own instincts and every imperfect judgment destroys love.

The Bible is honest that many will go that way but you do not have to, ya know. You could choose to think it through further.

Don't let the flesh you see which masquerades as God's church cheat you out of seeing God's true spiritual Church.

So then let us ask God to spread God's love through out our entire being then and really then actually have our caranl natures destroyed in reception of God's typeof love best described in 1 cor 13:4-13
[h=3]1 Corinthians 13:4-13[/h]New International Version (NIV)

[SUP]4 [/SUP]Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. [SUP]5 [/SUP]It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. [SUP]6 [/SUP]Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. [SUP]7 [/SUP]It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. [SUP]9 [/SUP]For we know in part and we prophesy in part, [SUP]10 [/SUP]but when completeness comes, what is in part disappears. [SUP]11 [/SUP]When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind me. [SUP]12 [/SUP]For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.

 

[homwardbound]

kardiaoangelous, may i use your words in copyied quote Iposted in # 178. I have a blog that Iwrite in and would like to use those words you used along wiht what I wrote. Thanks in advance

 

[homwardbound]

It would seem, though, that Christ has NOT helped them, just as he has NOT helped me, in regards to spiritual enlightenment.

Help comes from someone who takes a risk, who reaches out, who adapts themselves to the needy.

God doesn't take that risk - he expects us to (blind faith); he doesn't reach out - he says he already did (Jesus); he doesn't adapt for those who doubt - God is unchanging.

Ecclesiastes 3:14
"I know that everything God does will endure forever; nothing can be added to it and nothing taken from it. God does it so that people will fear him."

So no matter what, God will not adapt to help anyone who does not already fear him... therefore everyone else are unlucky victims of circumstance: being born free yet damned eternally. How is that fair?

Luke 13:23-24 and 28
Someone asked him, “Lord, are only a few people going to be saved?” He said to them,
“Make every effort to enter through the narrow door, because many, I tell you, will try to enter and will not be able to. “There will be weeping there, and gnashing of teeth, when you see Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets in the kingdom of God, but you yourselves thrown out.”

So Jesus tells us: "Make every effort to live your lives for God" But don't expect to enter Heaven, even if you live your life for God... God is unchanging and remains unfaithful to those who will not enter heaven... sucks to be me!

Romans 8:28-30
And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose. For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers and sisters. And those he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified.

So God knows already who will not enter his heavenly kingdom, yet he tells them to live a lie (Luke13:24), seems unfair...

Proverbs 1:24-26
Because I have called and you refused to listen, have stretched out my hand and no one has heeded, because you have ignored all my counsel and would have none of my reproof, I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when terror strikes you.

This is like a wolf calling sheep to enter his cave, using kindness and words of wisdom to win their hearts... those who refuse his call he will gobble up then and there, but those who listen will be slaughtered and tossed into his cooking pot. Only a few "lucky" sheep will be allowed to live and eat with him. Guess what's on the menu for those poor lambs? Lamb stew! How horrible it would be for those who pass by the billions of Christians who are at the gates of heaven but who aren't allowed to enter. All the unbelievers have already been destroyed or cast into hell, all the Christians are at the gates, pleading to get in, and only a few are given admittance. Their reward is that they get to eat with the God who never ever changes.

God is a God of Fear absolutely and this Fear is the begining of all wisdom, Remember I said the begining as the bible says too!!!!!! HMMM!!!!!!!!! let's think a little bit.
The Old Testament is the Giant and the new if the Midget. Now the Midget is the fulfilling of the Old. Why? Because when one puts a Midget on top of the Giant then one sees all the way home to Heaven, Peace, Joy and righteousness found in the Holy Ghost's testimony to the one seeking personally from God that he just loves you
Now when one sees this perfefct love which is the redeeemer Christ casts out all fear Old has gone, the New has come
1 John 4:18There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.
John 17:23I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
1 John 2:5But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.

There is a big differance in what this world calls love and tries to act out and we all get a mouth full of wax in this world being of it.
So we by God's type of Love true Love that it is found in 1 cor 13:4-13, and are not citizens of this world any longer are made citizens of Heaven where God is at in the Spirit, which we are to be here right now by the resurrection att he cross completing the full Gospel, no more man works trying to be right with God, because by the resurrection we are made rioght with God and walk thereafter in the Spirit of God, here and now by his overwhelming love given to us through his sojn Christ Jesus.
So the ? now is do you beleive God. This is your free ticket to know that God has got you a place in Heaven and is maybe juust waiting for you and all might then be fulfilled to end all the tragedy tha tis here now by the ones that refuse to accept God's miraculous free gift of life everlasting provided in and through his Son Jesus Christ, and us being Son in and through Jesus Christ too!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks for consideriing truth