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notuptome

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justamazed said:
What does that mean? How can love be unconditional under certain conditions? You either love and accept them or you do not.

Am I to shun my brother because he prays five times facing east and use the name "Allah"? Under what conditions should I bestow my unconditional love for him?
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You had better revisit your definition of brother. Are you brother to someone who is not saved? Allah cannot save. Allah is an Arabic moon god not Jehovah God of Israel.
What you are seeing is the ground work being laid to join Islam with roman Catholicism. The nucleus of the one world religion perhaps?

For the cause of Christ
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notuptome said:
You had better revisit your definition of brother. Are you brother to someone who is not saved? Allah cannot save. Allah is an Arabic moon god not Jehovah God of Israel.
What you are seeing is the ground work being laid to join Islam with roman Catholicism. The nucleus of the one world religion perhaps?

For the cause of Christ
Roger
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There is no such thing as a moon god, that's the point. "Allah" means God to the Muslim. And this one religion thing is false as well. Christians cannot even come together, much less the world on religion.
 
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justamazed said:
What does that mean? How can love be unconditional under certain conditions? You either love and accept them or you do not.

Am I to shun my brother because he prays five times facing east and use the name "Allah"? Under what conditions should I bestow my unconditional love for him?
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Being a Universalist, you believe we should love and accept everybody. We don't. We love them, but we don't accept their lifestyles. We're not supposed to. They're sinful.
Because you believe everybody's saved, you call him a brother. He is not. We were not brethren until we came to Christ.
Matthew 7:13-14 [SUP]13 [/SUP]Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: [SUP]14 [/SUP]Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
 
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Stephen63 said:
Being a Universalist, you believe we should love and accept everybody. We don't. We love them, but we don't accept their lifestyles. We're not supposed to. They're sinful.
Because you believe everybody's saved, you call him a brother. He is not. We were not brethren until we came to Christ.
Matthew 7:13-14 [SUP]13 [/SUP]Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: [SUP]14 [/SUP]Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
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Did Christ die while you were a sinner?
 
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Scary stuff, here is a smaller video which is closely related to this, Chrislam...
[video=youtube;iiMYRzFR2ZM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiMYRzFR2ZM[/video]
 
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i am so happy to see this issue being addressed and the Godly answers being given. it warms my heart to know that there are so many christians out there who know their God and will serve Him in righteousness defending His holy name.
 
notuptome

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justamazed said:
There is no such thing as a moon god, that's the point. "Allah" means God to the Muslim. And this one religion thing is false as well. Christians cannot even come together, much less the world on religion.
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Allah was a tribal moon god of the Arabs. Mohammed adopted Allah for his new religion. Mohammed was thought to be possessed as he likely had epilepsy.
Allah is not the God of the bible. The description of allah in the Islamic religion is quite different from the bibles definition of Jehovah God.
By the way there are many religions who have different gods some have many gods are they just different names for the God Who is God?

For the cause of Christ
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notuptome said:
Allah was a tribal moon god of the Arabs. Mohammed adopted Allah for his new religion. Mohammed was thought to be possessed as he likely had epilepsy.
Allah is not the God of the bible. The description of allah in the Islamic religion is quite different from the bibles definition of Jehovah God.
By the way there are many religions who have different gods some have many gods are they just different names for the God Who is God?

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You actually got two "likes" for this post? Now if you believe the bible, it tells you there is NO SUCH THING as a moon god. But another book has you believing that it is?

Even IF Mohammad PUBLICLY came out and said, "YUP, I worship the moon god," YOU are supposed to be "MATURE" enough as a "Christian" to know better!

Is there a real moon god in the sky? No. The bible says that even though the world may have MANY gods, for us, we KNOW there is but ONE God of all!
 
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notuptome said:
Yes. You?

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Yes, but what does this mean for you?

So far I have that Christ died for YOU while YOU were a sinner, but now that YOU have Christ, the next man is to somehow become sinless first?
 
notuptome

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justamazed said:
You actually got two "likes" for this post? Now if you believe the bible, it tells you there is NO SUCH THING as a moon god. But another book has you believing that it is?

Even IF Mohammad PUBLICLY came out and said, "YUP, I worship the moon god," YOU are supposed to be "MATURE" enough as a "Christian" to know better!

Is there a real moon god in the sky? No. The bible says that even though the world may have MANY gods, for us, we KNOW there is but ONE God of all!
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Just a little historical perspective on Islam and the Koran. The bible has nothing to do with the Koran save to say that the children of Ishmael must be saved like everyone else.
I will not change the image of God into that of other religions. Romans 1:21-23 It is fairly well known that Mohammed did not follow the same God as the children of Abraham.

For the cause of Christ
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notuptome

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justamazed said:
Yes, but what does this mean for you?

So far I have that Christ died for YOU while YOU were a sinner, but now that YOU have Christ, the next man is to somehow become sinless first?
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Where did you make that leap? The next man is sinless? Man cannot stop sinning until he die or be glorified together with the Lord. Paul agonized with this in Romans 7:15-25
Now what of you?

For the cause of Christ
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notuptome said:
Just a little historical perspective on Islam and the Koran. The bible has nothing to do with the Koran save to say that the children of Ishmael must be saved like everyone else.
I will not change the image of God into that of other religions. Romans 1:21-23 It is fairly well known that Mohammed did not follow the same God as the children of Abraham.

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SCREW history! This is one of our biggest problems, that TODAY continues to be influence by YESTERDAY! We burned women for being witches too.

God is not a Christian either sir. Now again I say that by DEATH, Mohammad is with Christ. So is it with us all as we too must crucify the flesh.
 
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notuptome said:
Where did you make that leap? The next man is sinless? Man cannot stop sinning until he die or be glorified together with the Lord. Paul agonized with this in Romans 7:15-25
Now what of you?

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So what is the difference between you sinning and the next man sinning? BELIEF? I'm trying to figure out how you will be saved being a sinner while those sinners who do not believe are cast away, BOTH being sinners.
 
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Tintin said:
don't think God's Word should be blunted to make it more acceptable to those from other religions but I don't feel like watching a 45 minute video to find out the answer. Would it really hurt people to just answer this simple question in a few words?

What translation of the Bible is Islam-friendly and therefore non-biblical?

XYZ translation.

Thanks.
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Tintin, while watching this video is totally up to you, I still highly recommend taking the time to listen to it. Afterall, we should take the time to hear a matter that is as serious as this one.

Furthermore, there are articles out there on websites that have some information written about this issue. Here is one of the main articles you can read that documents some of the changes that have been made by the Wycliffe Translators in the Arabic and Bangladesh translations.

New Muslim-friendly Bibles removes 'Father,' Jesus as 'Son of God'

I still would highly encourage and exhort you though to watch the whole video. At least prayerfully consider hearing the whole matter. Seek the Lord in prayer about it.
 
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justamazed said:
So what is the difference between you sinning and the next man sinning? BELIEF? I'm trying to figure out how you will be saved being a sinner while those sinners who do not believe are cast away, BOTH being sinners.
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1 John 1:5-2:2. Because I have trusted Christ to save me He now ministers the new covenant between me and the Father. The unsaved man has no advocate and stands alone before the Father to be judged. I will stand before my Saviour and account for what I have done but it is a judgment of my works (faithfulness)but it is the works that are tried in the fire not me. 2 Cor 5:8-10 with 1 Cor 3:11-15
What do you have?

For the cause of Christ
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justamazed said:
SCREW history! This is one of our biggest problems, that TODAY continues to be influence by YESTERDAY! We burned women for being witches too.

God is not a Christian either sir. Now again I say that by DEATH, Mohammad is with Christ. So is it with us all as we too must crucify the flesh.
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Mohammed is where everyone who denies the deity of Christ goes. God is God. God is not a respecter of persons. Jesus said that He is the way the truth and the life and that no man comes unto the Father except by Him.
I would not go around telling everyone that you've been burning witches. Not looked upon too favorably today.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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notuptome said:
1 John 1:5-2:2. Because I have trusted Christ to save me He now ministers the new covenant between me and the Father. The unsaved man has no advocate and stands alone before the Father to be judged. I will stand before my Saviour and account for what I have done but it is a judgment of my works (faithfulness)but it is the works that are tried in the fire not me. 2 Cor 5:8-10 with 1 Cor 3:11-15
What do you have?

For the cause of Christ
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Ephesians 2:11-19

[SUP]11 [/SUP]Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;
[SUP]12 [/SUP]That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
[SUP]13 [/SUP]But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
[SUP]15 [/SUP]Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
[SUP]16 [/SUP]And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:
[SUP]17 [/SUP]And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.
[SUP]18 [/SUP]For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.
[SUP]19 [/SUP]Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;

To judge your works means that you must crucify the flesh. How is it then that a dead man judges the work of another?
 
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notuptome said:
Mohammed is where everyone who denies the deity of Christ goes. God is God. God is not a respecter of persons. Jesus said that He is the way the truth and the life and that no man comes unto the Father except by Him.
I would not go around telling everyone that you've been burning witches. Not looked upon too favorably today.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
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If God is not a respecter of persons, then you will most assuredly end up where all will go, correct?
 
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justamazed said:
Ephesians 2:11-19

To judge your works means that you must crucify the flesh. How is it then that a dead man judges the work of another?
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Gal 2:20-21 I am crucified with Christ nevertheless I live yet not I but Christ liveth in me...
Romans 6:11 reckon yourselves indeed dead to sin but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
I judge not but God has written John 3:18 He that believeth on Him (Christ) is not condemned but he that believeth not is condemned already because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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