NSA data mining

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'You can't have 100% security and 100% privacy': Obama defends NSA's secret 'data-mining' and tries to dismiss it as 'a modest encroachment'

PRISM data-mining program was launched in 2007 with approval from special federal judges
Apple, Facebook, Microsoft, Google, Yahoo, YouTube, Skype, AOL and PalTalk are involved in spying program
The UK has had access to the PRISM data since at least 2010
Details of data collection were outlined in classified 41-slide PowerPoint presentation that was leaked by intelligence officer
PRISM was exposed one day after it was revealed that NSA has been collecting telephone records of Verizon customers
It is largest anti-terror intelligence-gathering operation since 9/11


Read more: 'They watch your ideas form as you type': Leaked top-secret documents reveal how U.S. intelligence agencies are tapping directly into servers of Apple, Google and Facebook to spy on their users | Mail Online
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Barack Obama defends US surveillance tactics

Barack Obama: "You can't have 100% security and also then have 100% privacy and zero inconvenience"

GCHQ US spy claims 'chilling'
US confirms phone records collection
What can you learn from people's phone records?
President Barack Obama has defended newly revealed US government phone and internet surveillance programmes, saying they are closely overseen by Congress and the courts.

Mr Obama said his administration had struck "the right balance" between security and privacy.

BBC News - Barack Obama defends US surveillance tactics < click

a la GW: "Is the world a safer place?"

 

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Phone Records Shared With U.K.

by Eli Lake Jun 7, 2013 4:45 AM EDT

Data on U.S. customers, secretly collected from phone companies, has been shared with British security agencies, writes Eli Lake. Plus, everything you need to know about the NSA Spying Program.

Phone Records Shared With U.K. - The Daily Beast < click

 

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Classified docs reveal NSA's vast real-time warrantless Web surveillance

Get short URL Published time: June 06, 2013 23:24
Edited time: June 07, 2013 10:51

For seven years, the US National Security Agency (NSA) has been using a congressionally approved warrantless Web surveillance system with a near-limitless ability to spy on Americans’ phone calls, emails, video chats, search history and more.

Classified docs reveal NSA's vast real-time warrantless Web surveillance — RT USA < click

 

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Prism Used By GCHQ To Gather UK Information From Internet Companies

PA/The Huffington Post UK | Posted: 07/06/2013 16:25 BST | Updated: 07/06/2013 19:14 BST

Prism Used By GCHQ To Gather UK Information From Internet Companies < click

The reports were described as "chilling" by Labour MP Keith Vaz who said: "I am astonished by these revelations which could involve the data of thousands of Britons.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

 

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Barack Obama defends US surveillance tactics

Barack Obama: "You can't have 100% security and also then have 100% privacy and zero inconvenience"

GCHQ US spy claims 'chilling'
US confirms phone records collection
What can you learn from people's phone records?
President Barack Obama has defended newly revealed US government phone and internet surveillance programmes, saying they are closely overseen by Congress and the courts.

Mr Obama said his administration had struck "the right balance" between security and privacy.

BBC News - Barack Obama defends US surveillance tactics < click

a la GW: "Is the world a safer place?"

I dunno...

I don't mind the government having a bit of inconvenience.

: )

 

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PRISM was exposed one day after it was revealed that NSA has been collecting telephone records of Verizon customers


It is largest anti-terror intelligence-gathering operation since 9/11

oh yay! i assume this means there will never be another terror attack.
ahem.

unless they need one....oh, something like a New Pearl Harbour.

"New Pearl Harbor"
Section V of Rebuilding America's Defenses, entitled "Creating Tomorrow's Dominant Force", includes the sentence: "Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event––like a new Pearl Harbor" (51).[14]

Project for the New American Century - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia < click

WebCite query result < click

 

[Anonimous]

Let them listen in on my conversations if they dare. I bore myself. Just one session with me and they would outlaw eaves dropping forever.

 

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Let them listen in on my conversations if they dare. I bore myself. Just one session with me and they would outlaw eaves dropping forever.

ditto.
except when i hook up my own listening devices to the smart meter.
i got these guys pinned.

 

[AmmiAmmiel]

In a split second, they could find out everyone who calls themselves Christian if they wanted to. Be prepared for them to target us because of our testimony of the truth. They don't like the thought of us knowing they have no real power over us,..

 

[David_1]

I was wondering why this subject hasn't been discussed here more often?

Is it because, all the Republican voters are truly ashamed they voted for Bush who established the Patriot Act? Nah I'm kidding! I know they are shameless.

To me this is the biggest thing, since Nixon colluded with the Vietnamese to extend the war. And no one is talking about it!

What I dare say happened, this all got set up with Bush and Cheney, and the same NSA guys are still there today.

I don't know what can be done. Should we start avoiding all American tech products? How?

The Americans have shown they have no interest in following their own laws and international laws. Obama has just continued what Bush has done.

And so-called Christians are just frothing at the mouth to vote in the next Republican who will make it worse.

 

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I was wondering why this subject hasn't been discussed here more often?

Is it because, all the Republican voters are truly ashamed they voted for Bush who established the Patriot Act? Nah I'm kidding! I know they are shameless.

To me this is the biggest thing, since Nixon colluded with the Vietnamese to extend the war. And no one is talking about it!

What I dare say happened, this all got set up with Bush and Cheney, and the same NSA guys are still there today.

I don't know what can be done. Should we start avoiding all American tech products? How?

The Americans have shown they have no interest in following their own laws and international laws. Obama has just continued what Bush has done.

And so-called Christians are just frothing at the mouth to vote in the next Republican who will make it worse.

um....it ain't the 'mericans.
their leaders are hand-picked by internationalies.

that NSA stuff is done elsewhere.
they just using on US.

 

[Stephen63]

They've been spying for years. There is a massive computer system that checks for words that are used in terrorist conversations. But do I believe that's all they look for? Not on your life! That computer is here in the United States somewhere...... can't remember now. It scans all radio and telephone wired communications. All of them. Even online conversations such as Skype.

 

[Stephen63]

With some states considering seceding from the union, we should get a better idea of what they're really listening for.

 

[Ritter]

I wonder if Mr. Snowden is a disinformation agent.

That is the trouble these days: no one can be trusted. That is partially by design.

The disgusting part is that this isn't being done in secret. It is all out in the open and the amount of people who care is negligible at best.

In better days if a man wanted to be listened to, he would walk outside, look at the stars, and talk to God. That or he would go to a Townhall meeting, speak at his Church, or become some sort of troubadour.

God has been pushed out and the little platoons we came to rely on for social stability have been pushed to the periphery. Now what does man do? He goes to You Tube, Facebook, etc. Since our age is more lustful, there is no longer a purge urge to be heard, but an almost perverse desire for fame at little cost.

We want so badly for people to listen that Big Brother isn't a considered a threat, but another potential audience.

Those who do not desire fame flippantly call themselves boring as if the point of surveillance were for the authorities to entertain themselves. They accept the thesis of the fame mongers though not their desires.

While we dance or dismiss, elements of our dancing or dismissals are being fashioned into a noose of partial truths.

Barring any great change in direction, the once assertive citizenry will find it fastened on them on it by a radical pretending to save you from reactionaries or a reactionary pretending to save you from radicals. By then the choice will either dance to their tune or hang.

 

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U.S., British intelligence mining data from nine U.S. Internet companies in broad secret program

Video: The U.S. goverment is accessing top Internet companies’ servers to track foreign targets. Reporter Barton Gellman talks about the source who revealed this top-secret information and how he believes his whistleblowing was worth whatever consequences are ahead.

By Barton Gellman and Laura Poitras, Published: June 6 | Updated: Friday, June 7, 7:51 AM E-mail the writer

The National Security Agency and the FBI are tapping directly into the central servers of nine leading U.S. Internet companies, extracting audio and video chats, photographs, e-mails, documents, and connection logs that enable analysts to track foreign targets, according to a top-secret document obtained by The Washington Post.

The program, code-named PRISM, has not been made public until now. It may be the first of its kind. The NSA prides itself on stealing secrets and breaking codes, and it is accustomed to corporate partnerships that help it divert data traffic or sidestep barriers. But there has never been a Google or Facebook before, and it is unlikely that there are richer troves of valuable intelligence than the ones in Silicon Valley.

Equally unusual is the way the NSA extracts what it wants, according to the document: “Collection directly from the servers of these U.S. Service Providers: Microsoft, Yahoo, Google, Facebook, PalTalk, AOL, Skype, YouTube, Apple.”

London’s Guardian newspaper reported Friday that GCHQ, Britain’s equivalent of the NSA, also has been secretly gathering intelligence from the same internet companies through an operation set up by the NSA.

U.S., British intelligence mining data from nine U.S. Internet companies in broad secret program - The Washington Post < click


Equally unusual is the way the NSA extracts what it wants, according to the document: “Collection directly from the servers of these U.S. Service Providers: Microsoft, Yahoo, Google, Facebook, PalTalk, AOL, Skype, YouTube, Apple.”


lololol - like....that's what they gave us all this for!
much easier than going around door to door, ya?

..........

Senator Joe McCarthy - tsk tsk silly CT nutter

Joseph McCarthy meets his match &mdash; History.com This Day in History &mdash; 6/9/1954 < click

 

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US leaker Edward Snowden 'defending liberty'

Prism was authorised under changes to US surveillance laws passed under President George W Bush, and renewed last year under Barack Obama.

Mr Obama has defended the surveillance programmes, assuring Americans that nobody was listening to their calls.

BBC News - US leaker Edward Snowden 'defending liberty' < click

 

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U.S. online snooping: What Canadians need to know

In light of these new revelations, has the world become just one big Al Rashid Hotel?

Ronald Deibert: Yes. Yes it has. Life is not only one giant Al Rashid Hotel, but it has been for a long time now. The difference now, I think, is that people are just waking up to the fact. And to some of the details of what is going on beneath the surface of what we call cyberspace.

Toronto Star: The big question for Canadians in light of the latest news is, “Can the American government sees everything we do?” Is there a cyber border of any kind when it comes to digital communication?

Ron Deibert: No. There is no border. The way telecommunication traffic is routed in North America, the fact of the matter is about 90 per cent of Canadian traffic — no one really knows the exact number — is routed through the United States. It’s mostly an economic issue rather than a security issue, at a baseline level. When the telecom carriers and wireless service providers steer their traffic, they look for the cheapest possible route to transfer data between them. Internet exchange points are critical — this is where traffic is passed between the companies — and we have only two Internet exchange points in Canada. There is one in Vancouver and one in Toronto. As a consequence, even an email sent within the city of Toronto most likely would transit to Chicago before being routed back to Toronto. And that’s simply a matter of economics.

But security enters into it in a number of ways. It’s well known now, before these revelations came to light, going back to Mark Klein whistleblower case in 2006, that the NSA has set up special eavesdropping facilities and equipment in major area exchange points in the U.S. At least two were brought up by Mark Klein, which led to lawsuits by the Electronic Frontier Foundation against Verizon and AT&T. Those lawsuits were later dismissed when the president (George W. Bush) gave those companies retroactive immunity in 2008, from liabilities for essentially violating their own terms of service in participating in, at that time, extrajudicial surveillance.

The other component of the borderless nature of all this is what has happened in Canada. There’s the National Security Agency in the United States. We have a counterpart called the Communications Security Establishment Canada. CSEC happens to be building a $900 million new complex right next to CSIS headquarters (in Ottawa). It’s massive — I was at CSIS a month and a half ago, glanced out the window and it looks to be an airport terminal being built. Now, most Canadians have never heard of CSEC — it operated under the Department of Defence until recently, when it became its own federal agency. Oversight of CSEC is really thin, compared to even the oversight that takes place at the National Security Agency. There’s one retired judge with staff that issue an annual review, and in all the years they’ve been doing reviews they’ve never once found a single problem with CSEC.

U.S. online snooping: What Canadians need to know | Toronto Star < click

 

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Shoot The PRISM-Gate Messenger: Obama To Launch Criminal Probe Into NSA Leaks

Submitted by Tyler Durden on 06/07/2013 21:29 -0400

Yet the PRISM-gate scandal which is sure to only get worse with time as Americans slowly realize they are living in a Orwellian police state, meant Obama would have to do more to appease a public so furious even the NYT issued a scathing editorial lamenting the obliteration of Obama's credibility. Sure enough, the president did. Reuters reports that the first course of action by the US government will be to... shoot the messenger.

Reuters reports that "President Barack Obama's administration is likely to open a criminal investigation into the leaking of highly classified documents that revealed the secret surveillance of Americans' telephone and email traffic, U.S. officials said on Friday."

And how did Reuters learn this: from "law enforcement and security officials who were not authorized to speak publicly."

The mimetic absurdity of the narrative is just too surreal to even contemplate for more than a minute before bursting out in laughter: the administration's plans to launch criminal charges against those who "leaked" its Nixonian espionage masterplan involving every US (and world) citizen using the Internet, revealed by another group of sources leaking in secret. Pure poetry.

Of course, this was inevitable - once you start down the path of a totalitarian surveillance superstate, you don't stop until all dissent is crushed: either peacefully through submission to debt serfdom, or, well, not so peacefully.

Shoot The PRISM-Gate Messenger: Obama To Launch Criminal Probe Into NSA Leaks | Zero Hedge < click

 

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i wonder if we have figured out yet who is really desperately needing and desiring to monitor everyone's words thoughts and deeds?

we've been here before.