gal 3:10-12 to those who keep looking law ward.

[eternally-gratefull]

That is what I mean by picking out verses about explanations God gives us about one aspect of Him. We have died to the law, it can't kill us because we have Christ. We have faith in this and trust it. God's grace is beyond words like wonderful. Those are facts that fit into the overall plan God has for us. If I posted only about obedience, or what God says about the need for works, those would also be facts and truth. But the whole truth has to have these truths fit into the whole of God's plan for us. One without the other is not all of truth.

the problem is that is the greatest asset about God.

God so loved the world he gave his only son, that whoever has faith in him, will NEVER parish. but HAS (present tense) ETERNAL LIFE.

Those who have this eternal life love God and are grateful for what he has done, and strive to learn why God says no and yes.. They do not live and obey commands to try to get something from God. they do it because they have already been given something by God. His eternal life. His promise to never depart from them. and to keep them in his arms no matter what. This is true love. and this is God.

Yes people distort this truth and practice sin and licentiousness. But this is not grace, this is pride. This is a refusal to repent. and these people have never been saved. Jude makes this quite clear! they are no more saved than the legalist trying to earn Gods love and eternal life by being good, and practicing ritual and law.. Neither have found God. both are stuck in pride. and both are on the wide gate to hell!

 

[crossnote]

That is what I mean by picking out verses about explanations God gives us about one aspect of Him. We have died to the law, it can't kill us because we have Christ. We have faith in this and trust it. God's grace is beyond words like wonderful. Those are facts that fit into the overall plan God has for us. If I posted only about obedience, or what God says about the need for works, those would also be facts and truth. But the whole truth has to have these truths fit into the whole of God's plan for us. One without the other is not all of truth.

I suppose I could cite Romans 1-8, Galatians 1-4, the Book of Hebrews and sections of Ephesians, Collosians and Phillipians...showing Paul writing to the Churches is very consistent on this matter. Besides it wouldn't make the mods too happy.

 

[RedTent]

I suppose I could cite Romans 1-8, Galatians 1-4, the Book of Hebrews and sections of Ephesians, Collosians and Phillipians...showing Paul writing to the Churches is very consistent on this matter. Besides it wouldn't make the mods too happy.

It does really come down to getting God's word in balance, and God's holiness, God's love is way, way at the forefront.

An awful lot of the NT is devoted to God's reaction to not taking His direct gospel to the gentiles, but wanting them to first be Jews all the way including being circumcised. Some scripture calls this the law, and of course it was rituals not all the law. All through the thousands of years before of gentiles joining God, they had done it by first becoming Jews. This new way of taking the gospel to them without being Jews first was hard for the leaders of the church to accept. Besides, how could they go into the synagogue to learn scripture if they were unclean to go in? Imagine living in those times with these things to cope with. We read about it in 2013 as all about us in our world. It gives us God principles and what God is about, but through the people living in how things were in 50 and 60.

So you could get a wrong idea of what God was showing us in the scriptures you give if you don't also know why and how it was given to us.

 

[crossnote]

I think the law/grace thingy goes much deeper than Jew/Gentile and Levitical ceremonies. In Romans 7, Paul talks about dying to the Law through the death of Christ and this goes to the full law because Paul doesn't use an example of a dietary or feast injunction but uses the 10th Commandment...Thou shall not covet. Coveting is not an outward action but one of the inner man...and one that is univeral amongst all. So even that one is included in all of Paul's teachings on our relationto the law vs. grace.

 

[john832]

How can it be a process which keeps going and going if we can NOT BE BORN AGAIN until we fully repent?

One question at a time because I tend to be verbose. What and when is born again?

Joh 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
Joh 3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
Joh 3:8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

This passage says a lot...

Born of the flesh, we all are. Born of the spirit is spirit. Only One has been born of spirit thus far. This is not speaking of some spiritual experience, this is speaking of birth by resurrection. Notice the description in verse 8. Humans don't fit that description, we are not invisible and only known by the effects of what we do. We are not born yet...

1Co 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
1Co 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

1Co 15:35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
1Co 15:36 Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:

The dead are not raised until the return of Christ at the resurrection. Until then, they are dead.

1Co 15:37 And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that shall be, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other grain:
1Co 15:38 But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body.

God gives us a spirit body at the resurrection, until then we are flesh.

1Co 15:39 All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds.
1Co 15:40 There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.

Paul is using flesh here and celestial bodies here to show that there are different degrees. There is God, the twenty-four elders, there are Cherubim, Seraphim, angels, the Devil, demons and perhaps other spirit beings we do not yet know about.

1Co 15:41 There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.

There are levels or ranks.

1Co 15:42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
1Co 15:43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
1Co 15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

What is the difference? We become spirit at the resurrection.

1Co 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
1Co 15:46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
1Co 15:47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.

1Co 15:48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.
1Co 15:49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.

Note the tense here, "we shall also bear" is future tense.

1Co 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
1Co 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

We shall all be, again future tense. When?

1Co 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
1Co 15:53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
1Co 15:54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
1Co 15:55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?

When do we obtain immortality? At the Last Trump at Christ's return. Paul did not consider himself to have obtained...

Php 3:10 That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;
Php 3:11 If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead.
Php 3:12 Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect: but I follow after, if that I may apprehend that for which also I am apprehended of Christ Jesus.
Php 3:13 Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before,
Php 3:14 I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.

He did not consider himself to have made it yet, not until the resurrection.

 

[john832]

I think the law/grace thingy goes much deeper than Jew/Gentile and Levitical ceremonies. In Romans 7, Paul talks about dying to the Law through the death of Christ and this goes to the full law because Paul doesn't use an example of a dietary or feast injunction but uses the 10th Commandment...Thou shall not covet. Coveting is not an outward action but one of the inner man...and one that is univeral amongst all. So even that one is included in all of Paul's teachings on our relationto the law vs. grace.

I would say Law and Grace. They go hand in hand.

 

[crossnote]

1 Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

One question at a time because I tend to be verbose. What and when is born again?

Joh 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
Joh 3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
Joh 3:8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

This passage says a lot...

Born of the flesh, we all are. Born of the spirit is spirit. Only One has been born of spirit thus far. This is not speaking of some spiritual experience, this is speaking of birth by resurrection. Notice the description in verse 8. Humans don't fit that description, we are not invisible and only known by the effects of what we do. We are not born yet...

1Co 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
1Co 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

1Co 15:35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
1Co 15:36 Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:

The dead are not raised until the return of Christ at the resurrection. Until then, they are dead.

1Co 15:37 And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that shall be, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other grain:
1Co 15:38 But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body.

God gives us a spirit body at the resurrection, until then we are flesh.

1Co 15:39 All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds.
1Co 15:40 There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.

Paul is using flesh here and celestial bodies here to show that there are different degrees. There is God, the twenty-four elders, there are Cherubim, Seraphim, angels, the Devil, demons and perhaps other spirit beings we do not yet know about.

1Co 15:41 There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.

There are levels or ranks.

1Co 15:42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
1Co 15:43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
1Co 15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

What is the difference? We become spirit at the resurrection.

1Co 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
1Co 15:46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
1Co 15:47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.

1Co 15:48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.
1Co 15:49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.

Note the tense here, "we shall also bear" is future tense.

1Co 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
1Co 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

We shall all be, again future tense. When?

1Co 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
1Co 15:53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
1Co 15:54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
1Co 15:55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?

When do we obtain immortality? At the Last Trump at Christ's return. Paul did not consider himself to have obtained...

Php 3:10 That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;
Php 3:11 If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead.
Php 3:12 Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect: but I follow after, if that I may apprehend that for which also I am apprehended of Christ Jesus.
Php 3:13 Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before,
Php 3:14 I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.

He did not consider himself to have made it yet, not until the resurrection.

 

[crossnote]

I would say Law and Grace. They go hand in hand.

yes the law shows and convicts us of sin but is powerless in aiding our weakness to perfrorming it.

 

[RedTent]

I think the law/grace thingy goes much deeper than Jew/Gentile and Levitical ceremonies. In Romans 7, Paul talks about dying to the Law through the death of Christ and this goes to the full law because Paul doesn't use an example of a dietary or feast injunction but uses the 10th Commandment...Thou shall not covet. Coveting is not an outward action but one of the inner man...and one that is univeral amongst all. So even that one is included in all of Paul's teachings on our relationto the law vs. grace.

But always when God speaks of death by law, God is saying that we cannot live with Him in eternity with sin, sin means death. When God says law doesn't mean death for us God is telling us that He sent His Son. We have died to all law through Christ. But if you go to what God says about how we are to use Christ to cleanse us from death by law, God talks about obedience. It is through faith in all God is, and part of God is instructions in how we can best live with Him. We can be forgiven for lying, but we can't BE liars, for instance. So everything fits together as one, nothing can be left out.

And first, over all these things is grace. God is our Lord. God is Holy, God is love. These things are first, but it leads to all the other.

 

[zone]

Galatians 3:10-12 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.
And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.

O, Galatians, why the Judaizers avoid you so?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

One question at a time because I tend to be verbose. What and when is born again?

Joh 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
Joh 3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
Joh 3:8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

This passage says a lot...

Born of the flesh, we all are. Born of the spirit is spirit. Only One has been born of spirit thus far. This is not speaking of some spiritual experience, this is speaking of birth by resurrection. Notice the description in verse 8. Humans don't fit that description, we are not invisible and only known by the effects of what we do. We are not born yet...

wow. Where do you get this? What is born of the spirit? it is being born again, it is passing from death to life. Jesus tells us how to be born of the spirit in vs 16. That whoever has faith in him will never perish but HAS (Present tense) Eternal life.

How can you be said to HAVE eternal life, if your still dead, and will not recieve life until the resurrection? Did God contradict himself?

Having life is being born again.

If you think no one is born with the spirit until the ressurection. You are in serious trouble. and no wonder your trying to earn it.

This is being born again.

John 5:24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.

Why do you want to believe different? Your either dead to Christ, or alive because of Christ. There is no inbetween.


Do you even understand what spiritual death vs spiritual life means? Maybe we can start here.

 

[Michael50]

wow. Where do you get this? What is born of the spirit? it is being born again, it is passing from death to life. Jesus tells us how to be born of the spirit in vs 16. That whoever has faith in him will never perish but HAS (Present tense) Eternal life.

How can you be said to HAVE eternal life, if your still dead, and will not recieve life until the resurrection? Did God contradict himself?

Having life is being born again.

If you think no one is born with the spirit until the ressurection. You are in serious trouble. and no wonder your trying to earn it.

This is being born again.

John 5:24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.

Why do you want to believe different? Your either dead to Christ, or alive because of Christ. There is no inbetween.


Do you even understand what spiritual death vs spiritual life means? Maybe we can start here.

You are the one in serious error. We die. And when we die, we know nothing, until the last day when jesus raises us. if you believe you have eternal life right now,, you are sadly mistaken. Eternal life is a gift of God that is bestowed to the Redeemed at the last day. Not before! "Behold I come quickly, My reward is with Me.' Nowhere does the scripture teach that we recieve our reward at our death.
Folks that believe the dead are alive, will be easy prey for Satan and his last day deceptions.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

You are the one in serious error. We die. And when we die, we know nothing, until the last day when jesus raises us. if you believe you have eternal life right now,, you are sadly mistaken. Eternal life is a gift of God that is bestowed to the Redeemed at the last day. Not before! "Behold I come quickly, My reward is with Me.' Nowhere does the scripture teach that we recieve our reward at our death.
Folks that believe the dead are alive, will be easy prey for Satan and his last day deceptions.

No, Your mistaken.

John 3: 16: John 3:16 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but has eternal life.

Believe is present tense.
Has is present tense.

They both happen at the same time. It is not future tense, as your faulty belief would have us say.

more;

John 3:36 He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who does not obey the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.”

Again, present tense verb., Not future



John 5:24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.

Notice the verbs.
has eternal life (present tense)
Will not come to judgment (future tense)
Passed from death to life (past tense)

your belief causes john to lie!

John 6. Has eternal life (present tense) will never die, never hunger or thirst. Assured to be ressurected, Live forever. Who are the ones who recieve this gift?


John 6:47 Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes has eternal life.

John 10:28 and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand. [SUP]29 [/SUP][SUP][a][/SUP]My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand.

1 John 5:11 And the testimony is this, that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son.

How an God give us eternal life already, if it is as you say not assured until the ressurection?

These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, so that you may know that you have eternal life.

Again, how can we KNOW we already have it if it is not assured until the ressurection?

Don't know what Bible you read. Maybe you better find a new one. because there is no mistaking these passages.. We have eternal life right now. That is how God can promise us we will never die..

Again, you need to figure out what spiritual death and life mean. Because I can only guess your getting your bel;ief with a misunderstanding of these terms.. If you figure this out, you will figure out your mistake.

 

[Michael50]

No, Your mistaken.

John 3: 16: John 3:16 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but has eternal life.

Believe is present tense.
Has is present tense.

They both happen at the same time. It is not future tense, as your faulty belief would have us say.

more;

John 3:36 He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who does not obey the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.”

Again, present tense verb., Not future



John 5:24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.

Notice the verbs.
has eternal life (present tense)
Will not come to judgment (future tense)
Passed from death to life (past tense)

your belief causes john to lie!

John 6. Has eternal life (present tense) will never die, never hunger or thirst. Assured to be ressurected, Live forever. Who are the ones who recieve this gift?


John 6:47 Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes has eternal life.

John 10:28 and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand. [SUP]29 [/SUP][SUP][a][/SUP]My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand.

1 John 5:11 And the testimony is this, that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son.

How an God give us eternal life already, if it is as you say not assured until the ressurection?

These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, so that you may know that you have eternal life.

Again, how can we KNOW we already have it if it is not assured until the ressurection?

Don't know what Bible you read. Maybe you better find a new one. because there is no mistaking these passages.. We have eternal life right now. That is how God can promise us we will never die..

Again, you need to figure out what spiritual death and life mean. Because I can only guess your getting your bel;ief with a misunderstanding of these terms.. If you figure this out, you will figure out your mistake.

How silly of you to believe we recieve our reward at our conversion. "Behold, I come quickly, My reward is with Me." Hmmm,,

Jesus says we get the reward when He comes, cause He has it with Him.
What you have, is the Promise of eternal life. You have not put on "immortality" yet. That becomes a reality when at the appearance of Jesus...

When Jesus said "they will never perish",, He wasn't refering to the first death (it is appointed for man to die once). Jesus was referring to the 2nd Death. If you go around claiming your belief, you make Jesus to be a liar. For we all grow old and eventually die. So, all can see your claim doesn't hold water.

 

[starfield]

How silly of you to believe we recieve our reward at our conversion. "Behold, I come quickly, My reward is with Me." Hmmm,,

Jesus says we get the reward when He comes, cause He has it with Him.
What you have, is the Promise of eternal life. You have not put on "immortality" yet. That becomes a reality when at the appearance of Jesus...

When Jesus said "they will never perish",, He wasn't refering to the first death (it is appointed for man to die once). Jesus was referring to the 2nd Death. If you go around claiming your belief, you make Jesus to be a liar. For we all grow old and eventually die. So, all can see your claim doesn't hold water.

Reward is different from salvation. Believers will receive rewards at the Judgment Seat of Christ (future event) while salvation and eternal life is a present possession of believers (John 6:47). Yes, God promised eternal life before the world began to those who believe in Him and it is a present possession.

 

[crossnote]

(1Jn 5:11) And this is the record, that God hath (present tense) given (aorist indicative active) to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.

(1Jn 5:12) He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.


Michael.. Please don't attempt any further derailing on this side issue.
Hath given (Aorist Indicative active) nothing here requires a future tense.

 

[crossnote]

It does really come down to getting God's word in balance, and God's holiness, God's love is way, way at the forefront.

An awful lot of the NT is devoted to God's reaction to not taking His direct gospel to the gentiles, but wanting them to first be Jews all the way including being circumcised. Some scripture calls this the law, and of course it was rituals not all the law. All through the thousands of years before of gentiles joining God, they had done it by first becoming Jews. This new way of taking the gospel to them without being Jews first was hard for the leaders of the church to accept. Besides, how could they go into the synagogue to learn scripture if they were unclean to go in? Imagine living in those times with these things to cope with. We read about it in 2013 as all about us in our world. It gives us God principles and what God is about, but through the people living in how things were in 50 and 60.

So you could get a wrong idea of what God was showing us in the scriptures you give if you don't also know why and how it was given to us.

I realize the difficulty the Jews had and the deep inculturation in the Mosaic system wasn't easy to shake. Even Peter had trouble with this. But after 1900 years of Paul's clear explanation laid out in his epistles there is no excuse for the church to hang on to Judaiism (as a means of our walk of faith), or Romanism or paganistic ideas or works righteousness of any sort.
The Gospel strips us of all those 'fig leaves' and offers us His Robe of Righteousness wherein we are free to serve Him in Spirit and not the letter of the Law...again...

(Gal 3:2-3) This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?

and

Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
(Rom 7:4)

 

[Laodicea]

People deceive themselves into thinking that they are not under the judgment of the law of Moses, but are required to keep the 10 commandments. IMO, that is either because their faith is weak, or they have no faith at all. We are either justified by faith, or we are justified by the 10 commandments. You can't have it both ways; there is no middle ground. One is life; the other is death. Mixing the two is leaven that corrupts one's whole walk.

For those who are offended or confused by this, ask yourself this question: Which commandment is able to make you righteous or holy?

The Law mentioned in Galatians 3 is not just the 10 commandments but the Law as a whole. People were teaching in the early church that they had to keep the Law of Moses to be saved. No one is saved by keeping any part of the Law whether is be the 10 commandments or the sacrificial laws. The sacrifices pointed to Christ they were not meant to save people.

Paul who had a good understanding of the Law as a whole is pointing out that the Law points to Christ. The sacrificial laws pointed to Christ who would die for us. The 10 commandments reveal the Character of God. Abraham was made righteous by faith he was not justified by works but yet he kept the law because he loved God.

 

[Grandpa]

O, Galatians, why the Judaizers avoid you so?

I was wondering the same thing. Do they even have Galatians in the New Judaizers Bible?

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to zone again. (ok...)

 

[loveme1]

The testimony of Jesus Christ is that He saves us even though our flesh cannot keep the Commandments.

Your flesh can't be taught to keep commandments. They are opposed one to the other. They are enemies.

The testimony of Jesus Christ is that when He saves us, He gives us the Holy Spirit and it is by the fruit of This Spirit that the commandments are kept. This is how He causes us to walk in His Statutes.

That is why the Lord Jesus Christ is the only Way. You can't be righteous by the power of your flesh. Only Christ can make you righteous and that is a gift by faith.

You speak much but where in my quote do i say we are righteous by the power of flesh?

The Messiah told us one must be born of the Spirit.