The Homosexual Threat

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SarahM777 said:
Don't be silly. Just because they have been using hormones in the food supply since the 1930's,or in medicine (IE DES),or chemicals that can act as hormone blockers or receptors,and can act in combination with one another, that has nothing to do with it at all. I mean come,they are totally safe with NO SIDE affects what so ever. (Thaliomide anyone?) UN HUH Just makes one want to go out and trust those guys in their little white coats. :rolleyes:
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You know if you have a twin that is gay you are much more likely
To be gay eve if separated from that twin.
 
Grey said:
You know if you have a twin that is gay you are much more likely
To be gay eve if separated from that twin.
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If i remember correctly I did read that but I don't remember where. But even though there may be a very real physical part to it,God will not allow us to use it as an excuse. God did give us the plumb line by which we are to live. It's His standards and not ours. Part of the problem is that people just can not seem to get it through their heads that when God says no,it's for our own good. God does not do it to hurt us.
 
In this particular sense Im only referring to what's considered natural. Im aware of what Yahweh says or rather his book.
 
Grey said:
You know if you have a twin that is gay you are much more likely
To be gay eve if separated from that twin.
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God's illustration of twins would seem to contradict that assertion. Cain and Able? Each makes his own choices.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
Grey said:
You know if you have a twin that is gay you are much more likely
To be gay eve if separated from that twin.
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Umm After rereading that study,the results were not conclusive for that study . That was the conclusion of the those looking at the sample study. The better studies are below.

The importance of twin studies

N E Whitehead PHD

Better research, however, was based on twins who were recruited for other reasons, and only subsequently asked about their sexual orientation. These are known as "registry" studies, and they similarly gave a concordance rate between identical twins of less than 50%. There have been two major published registry studies (4,5), one based on the Minnesota Registry, the other on the Australian Registry. The larger of the two registry studies is the Australian one, done by Bailey, Martin and others at the University of Queensland. Using the 14,000+ Australian twin collection, they found that if one twin was homosexual, 38% of the time his identical brother was too. For lesbianism the concordance was 30%. Whether 30% or 50% concordance (snowball samples), all the studies agree it is clearly not 100%.
The critical factor is that if one identical twin is homosexual, only sometimes is the co-twin homosexual. There is no argument about this in the scientific community.

The Importance of Twin Studies



 
I myself believe that it is the power of suggestion and evil spirit that makes a person gay. power of suggestion meaning that social media, environment, peer pressure, puts that suggestion in their head and then they act on it.

I dont believe anyone is born gay. I believe that is a cop out for people do this sin and want to be "accepted" by the rest of us.
 
I think the real homosexual threat is the one inside us when we try and make the God-man union consist of either two receivers or two givers, instead of a giver and receiver relationship.

There are a lot "homosexuals" who aren't fleshly homosexuals.
Those who cannot understand God as husband and mankind as wife cannot understand, therefore enter, the kingdom, regardless of whether they are committing the lesser fleshly sin or not.
 
notuptome said:
God's illustration of twins would seem to contradict that assertion. Cain and Able? Each makes his own choices.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
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Cain and Able most likely weren't twins.
By the way, we should be glad that Cain wasn't gay. ;)
 
I agree that it isn't conclusive but its still substantially higher not to mention how many people didn't want to admit to being gay in the study?
 
jinx said:
I myself believe that it is the power of suggestion and evil spirit that makes a person gay. power of suggestion meaning that social media, environment, peer pressure, puts that suggestion in their head and then they act on it.

I dont believe anyone is born gay. I believe that is a cop out for people do this sin and want to be "accepted" by the rest of us.
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Jinx,

Please don't push the evil spirit part. I have no idea how many times I have heard from those who were church going have been prayed over to "have the evil spirit of homosexuality" cast out of them and it didn't work. Blaming an evil spirit for people doing what they do most of the time is nothing more then a cop out also. God will not excuse us either way.

One has to make the distinction between seeing another as a person made in the image of God,although broken,sinful and in bondage and accepting the sin as no big deal,or that they are some sort of freak because of what they do. Big difference between them. If one sees the person as a freak and less then human because of what they do is that what God wants us to do?
 
I see a lot of instances where homosexuals are at their wits end, they hate themselves and in some instances commit suicide. And it's thanks to the sort of people on this very thread who spout nonsense about evil spirits and deadly sins. Hope your proud of yourselves. This is a really ugly side of Christianity. And please, spare me the 'it's gods word not mine' routine because your the ones spreading this hatred, and with conviction.
 
When you cast spirits out of a person they will exit through the nose or mouth. Mucus and fleme.
 
The bible is CLEAR on the point of homosexuality as being WRONG in the Eyes of God; and a cause for them not entering into the kingdom of heaven - their can be NO DEBATE on that ... period !!!

Fornication is an English translators term used to describe about 4-5 greek words relating to it; 'pornos' being the worst (also translated as 'whoremonger' in KJV and 'sexually immoral' in more modern translations), but the strongs number is G4205 which means 'male prostitute' and also relates to the word 'effeminate' which is a 'catamite' ie: a young boy used by older men in a homosexual context...

...it is WRONG in the Eyes of God period, and is against HIS WILL, regardless of how many 'friends, relatives or neighbours' someone might have that 'are gay' and acceptable to them - God will not change his mind just because of this...
 
SarahM777 said:
If i remember correctly I did read that but I don't remember where. But even though there may be a very real physical part to it,God will not allow us to use it as an excuse. God did give us the plumb line by which we are to live. It's His standards and not ours. Part of the problem is that people just can not seem to get it through their heads that when God says no,it's for our own good. God does not do it to hurt us.
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...in addition, its important to note, that what is against the Spirit of God is automatically rejected by Him, as that which is twisted cannot stand in His Presence - which is the Essence and Source of what is Straight and True; and subsequently comes under immediate judgement by its very nature which is - contrary to His...

...this is IMPORTANT to understand...VERY...
 
SarahM777 said:
Jinx,

Please don't push the evil spirit part. I have no idea how many times I have heard from those who were church going have been prayed over to "have the evil spirit of homosexuality" cast out of them and it didn't work. Blaming an evil spirit for people doing what they do most of the time is nothing more then a cop out also. God will not excuse us either way.

One has to make the distinction between seeing another as a person made in the image of God,although broken,sinful and in bondage and accepting the sin as no big deal,or that they are some sort of freak because of what they do. Big difference between them. If one sees the person as a freak and less then human because of what they do is that what God wants us to do?
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There can be a number of reasons: an evil spirit is a very valid one, keeping in mind that by a continuation of this 'lifestyle' once influenced by an evil spirit, the person doing so adapts it as his/their own, and 'becomes' that very thing themselves...

...there are also hormonal factors and faulty sry genes that may be contributive; as well as mothers that drank lots of soy milk while pregnant; due to the high estrogen content in soya --- some of them gave birth to male children with deformed genitals and who grew breasts, and had to have mastectomies as a result --- so there are other contributing factors as well, incl. those born as hermaphrodites for whatever reason --- I think God sees each case individually and being a Just God sees what people do and struggle with to do the right thing and be correct in His Eyes - and judges accordingly...

...however, we can see that it IS an agenda of the enemy to create a spiritual twist and mutation within humanity via homosexuality (and whatever other means) so that they are automatically rejected by God...
 
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