whats your opinion on atheism ?

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homwardbound

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my opinion? to each his own
and that is the sign of true love to let each be free to be whatever they choose for I know we all get shown personally the truth and decide what is and what is not
Thanks for that insight
 

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So how can you trust anything in the bible if you know there are wrong translations?
it is Spiritually discerned by God what is truth and what is not. It can take a while to see waht is misleading and what is not, yet if you do believe and want to know God without motive God will show you as God has shown many before us such as Saul who became Paul, below is what I saw God wants and thus God reveals truth to those that hgave no malice in mind

"Comfort God by letting God know that you would see God just to dwell in God's Presence. Not for teaching, not for material gain, not even for a message, but for God. The longing of the human heart to be loved for itself is something caught from the Great Divine Heart."
 

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I think atheists can be extremely rude and I'm saying that from experience of speaking with them. They are unwilling to hear the truth and try to debate you even if you didn't initiate a debate. When one chooses not to worship God , they are then becoming a self worshipper. It's next to impossible to go on YouTube and mention Jesus name cause the atheists come out and hit you hard with all this science theories and philosophy talk. It's frustrating and all you wanna do is hugg them through your computer and say its ok God loves you. :)
I thinkyoujust did and AMEN to this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

homwardbound

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It seems there are a lot of blanket statements made on this post... I've met atheists who are both honest, polite, and genuinely seeking answers and those who have been hurt by people in the church and have a lot of anger.

Atheists don't seem to me to be much different than many Christians in a way; both sides believe they are correct, both sides passionately defend their position, and both sometimes have trouble seeing the whole picture.

Jesus taught us in the Sermon of the Mount to take the plank out of our own eye before we can see clearly to remove the speck from our brother's eye. Well, in answering anyone, we must first try and assume that we have planks in our eye that must be removed before opposing someone else. Both Christians and atheists need to learn this teaching and understanding, because dare I say it, Christians too can sometimes get in the way of the work of Christ in the world.
and from what I see the plank is, ones own flesh at least for me and had to see what God gave to me by beleif and that is his Spirit through Christ's resurrection. first I needed to see the reconciliation before I could see the free gift of life in the Spirit of God by the resurrection. therefore today I
[h=3]Romans 6:11[/h]King James Version (KJV)

[SUP]11 [/SUP]Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.

now first though I had to see this

[h=3]Romans 5:10[/h]King James Version (KJV)

[SUP]10 [/SUP]For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

Reconciled is the same as forgiven period not an on going I need more forgiveness, because Christ took it all at his death all sin away in Christ's Father's sight, So Father could rebirth us to a new life , just not in the flesh rather in the Spirit, born again getting back what Adam And Eve lost, the life of God the breath that was breathed into them to be a liviing Soul is today restored in and through the cross, does not stop at the death we go out and do good, no rather we move on to the resurrection and recieve the new life in the Spirit of God
 
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years ago i had an interesting conversation with one of my nieces. she told me that she didn't believe in God as she had come to the conclusion that there was insufficient evidence to support the existence of God but overwhelming evidence to support evolution. i asked what she based her values on to which she replied society has developed our standards for living. i asked her what societies values she followed since not all societies held the same standards. this was the crack in her armor,so to speak. she had high standards to which she adhered but it quickly became evident that there was no defense for her belief system without an indisputable authority behind those beliefs. her ideology either made everyone right or everyone wrong. periodically over the next to years she would give me a new bit of information that she thought might support the atheistic worldview but as an easy a honor student she could increasingly see that their was far more to the creation/creator viewpoint than she had realized and far less scientific support. i ended up auditing her evolution class. i intentionally didn't participate in classroom debate but instead discussed the class with her afterward each time. she couldn't understand how a high school drop out from appalachia could squash every arguement that her two professors couldnt defend. long story made short.....she is a thriving christian woman today and has raised her children to be the same. sometimes you have to take time to have another see your point of view. sometimes it requires alot of effort over an extended period of time. it requires patience,long suffering,meekness, gentleness.......most of all it requires knowing that you may never change the other persons mind. but that can never be an excuse to give up. Jesus died on the cross after being beaten beyond recognition, spat upon, degraded and humiliated, mocked and scorned, having the flesh ripped from His back. He could have quit at any time saying to Himself that these people don't care about Me. why should i have to go through all this for them. they don't deserve My love. but that isn't what He did. and it isn't what He wants us to do
 
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There was a Christian lady who lived next door to an atheist. Every day, when the lady prayed, the atheist guy could hear her. He thought to himself, "She sure is crazy, praying all the time like that. Doesn't she know there isn't a God?" Many times while she was praying, he would go to her house and harass her, saying "Lady, why do you pray all the time? Don't you know there is no God?" But she kept on praying. One day, she ran out of groceries. As usual, she was praying to the Lord explaining her situation and thanking Him for what He was gonna do. As usual, the atheist heard her praying and thought to himself, "Humph! I'll fix her." He went to the grocery store, bought a whole bunch of groceries, took them to her house, dropped them off on the front porch, rang the door bell and then hid in the bushes to see what she would do. When she opened the door and saw the groceries, she began to praise the Lord with all her heart, jumping, singing and shouting everywhere! The atheist then jumped out of the bushes and told her, "You ol' crazy lady, God didn't buy you those groceries, I bought those groceries!" At hearing this, she broke out and started running down the street, shouting and praising the Lord. When he finally caught her, he asked what her problem was. She said, "I knew the Lord would provide me with some groceries, but I didn't know he was gonna make the devil pay for them!"

Lol here's another one:
Did you hear about the the evangelical atheist?
She went door to door with a book full of blank pages.

Haha sigh.....I don't know about you guys, but I see God everyday all around me....unless maybe I just have stuff in my eyes. Tehe :).
 
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I once knew of a dislexic Atheist, who said there is no dog.
Now okay you do not believe this is okay, you have free choice as we all do.
Once I heard this that in all the world here and now from theday Iwas born until the time I die can I know 100% of everything there is to know?
I ofcoarse said well no not 100%. My brother then said out of all there is to know could you at least know 10% by the time I die? I said yeah I guess, and my brother said well you are intellegent solets give you 30% of all there is to know by the time I die, is that fair? I said Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!! more than fair.
That is when he said out of the other 70% left can there not be a creator of all this that you see known as God revealed to us by Christ's walk here on earth his Mercy played out to us while we were all unworthy because somewhere along the path we have harmed others, not loving them as we all have the right or not the right to be here no one is better than the other.
And he walked away, today I leave tis with you to decide for you what is.
Love from homwardbound
I've heard that before, and that's why I don't claim to know that there is not a god. But at the same time, how do you not know that Cthulu is real if you don't even know a mathematical percentage of the amount of knowledge in the universe. Keep up the opinions!
 
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I go up and down the street looking for charities to rob in my freetime.
If everyone was an atheist, the Lord would be very lonely. He once appeared on earth as a human being, in the person of Jesus Christ, but he was murdered.
 
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If everyone was an atheist, the Lord would be very lonely. He once appeared on earth as a human being, in the person of Jesus Christ, but he was murdered.
As I recall he sacrificed himself to free mankind from sin.
 
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Yes. That is another reason to love him.
Wouldn't he have been executed more-so than murder, execution would entail an authority, whether it be the Romans or Hebrew Priestly Caste, having an official death sentence carried out.
 
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Wouldn't he have been executed more-so than murder, execution would entail an authority, whether it be the Romans or Hebrew Priestly Caste, having an official death sentence carried out.
You can call it that, but Jesus never wronged anybody.
 
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If everyone was an atheist, the Lord would be very lonely. He once appeared on earth as a human being, in the person of Jesus Christ, but he was murdered.
Putting a human emotion to a metaphysical being? Gasp

Maybe if he showed himself for once, we might actually believe he's there. You know, how sane people think
 
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Basebool, how many experiments have you conducted yourself? Have you actually studied first hand genes? Where was your last archeology dig? Have you actually seen space expanding through a telescope? With what apparatus did you generate energy from nothing? How many macroevolution fossils have you found? Assuming you haven't done many of these scientific milestones in the flesh it is by faith alone that you believe what you believe. For every scientist that agrees with you I can find two that won't. You are the one guilty of blind faith just as much as any Christian. However the forefathers of our faith often believed what they professed though it often meant torture and death. Your scientists hold on to their beliefs until the next discovery modifies the theory. My ancestors were people, I'm sorry about yours.
 
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Basebool, how many experiments have you conducted yourself? Have you actually studied first hand genes? Where was your last archeology dig? Have you actually seen space expanding through a telescope? With what apparatus did you generate energy from nothing? How many macroevolution fossils have you found? Assuming you haven't done many of these scientific milestones in the flesh it is by faith alone that you believe what you believe. For every scientist that agrees with you I can find two that won't. You are the one guilty of blind faith just as much as any Christian. However the forefathers of our faith often believed what they professed though it often meant torture and death. Your scientists hold on to their beliefs until the next discovery modifies the theory. My ancestors were people, I'm sorry about yours.
Science concludes a phenomenon based on the best available evidence. As time goes, we're able to dig more evidence, and as such scientific models are adjusted and/or scrapped. Of course they are going to change, they avtually care about what's true unlike you apparently.

No i've never done any of what you've mentioned, but i've personally watched several videos on stuff like evolution and the big bang and they show how it is proven. So i don't need to do any of the stuff if i know how to do them if i ever wanted to.

Thats the difference between faith and demonstrable claims: one is for the intellectually honest and the other is not
 
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You are fooling yourself. Nothing is proven. There are no transitional fossils like I've already said. I've seen movies where it looks like people are flying, dogs are talking and cartoons come into the real world. You can't believe everything you see on television. Billions and billions of years ago might as well translate into once upon a time because in all intellectual honesty if I can't trust documentation of eye witness accounts from two thousand years ago, how can you trust what happened billions of years ago. Science isn't that good you just have faith in it. You assume scientists are smart and Christians are not. Therefore if a scientist claims it to be true it must be. I'll fill you in on a little secret. There are many scientists that actually became Christians because of what they discovered in laboratories. Believe what you want. When I was your age I probably thought along the same lines as you. Once I was more mature and realized I didn't know everything so I began to study for myself all of the "facts". You will be surprised how science actually supports creationism. Hopefully you are as smart as you think you are and will make your decisions based on actual evidence and not the uncontested television specials on atheist tv.
 
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In my humble opinion, evolution is not some tenant of atheism. There were atheists before and clearly after Darwin. There's plenty of lists of transitional forms on the web if you look.