Why are relationships so often destined for failure ?

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rachelsedge

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What's wrong with that? You can't build a relationship from that basis alone obviously.....but if two people are single, you like each other, your both lonely, you enjoy each others company.....why not? Enjoy the ride
That's what I meant, though. I've seen so many people get together with someone because on the surface they have similar interests, and then two weeks later they've broken up because they disagree on something deeper, something that they hadn't talked about before they became a couple.

Maybe it's just how I view dating, but I'd rather get to know someone on more than a surface level before I get into a girlfriend-boyfriend relationship with them. To each their own. :)
 

Liamson

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Well, I'm usually in the opposite camp.

Nope sorry, here is a list of silly reasons why we could never date. Such as you liking Dark Chocolate more than White Chocolate.
 
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Donkeyfish07

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That's what I meant, though. I've seen so many people get together with someone because on the surface they have similar interests, and then two weeks later they've broken up because they disagree on something deeper, something that they hadn't talked about before they became a couple.

Maybe it's just how I view dating, but I'd rather get to know someone on more than a surface level before I get into a girlfriend-boyfriend relationship with them. To each their own. :)
I guess we just look at it differently....Me personally, going out with someone your interested in and barely know....that's just how dating works....you see how things go and if an issue arises then you discontinue. I don't really have a huge checklist that everybody must complete to proceed.....I take a, well lets go out and have some fun and see what develops mentality. I've went out with tons of girls that didn't make it past 3 or 4 dates because we were obviously incompatible....doesn't mean I didn't enjoy the experiences though :)
 

Liamson

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OH yeah, I forgot...

Guys date to find out if they like someone.

Girls date because they think that the guys already do.
 

Markum1972

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They are not "destined" to failure. They fail because people do not commit. Apostle Paul addressed this specifically.

We live in a world that teaches to get as much as you can with as little work as possible and expect others to take up the slack. Even in the growing socialist environment of the United States where one can come to expect the government to rob the rich to give to the poor. Yet Jesus said that the woman with little gave the most by giving what she could. It is a take take culture. This infects every facet of society.

Every couple I know that has been together a long time, has had to endure many things. Of those things are the same things that those who fail in relationships use as excuses as to why they did not commit. Here are some examples of people I know personally and the outcomes:

Alcoholic husband had an affair. She forgave him and gave him an ultimatum to move to another state and start over. They lost their house and everything in it. Now this couple is together after many years. The husband is a recovered alcoholic for many years now. They and their two beautiful children live in a house beyond anything they thought they would ever afford and go to a church that they all like very much.

Heroine addict with repeat relapses over many years. His wife never left him despite family and friends telling her to get rid of him cause she could do better. She refused and kept believing in him despite everything and everyone telling her otherwise. Now... 20 years later, he is the Pastor of Beyond the Walls ministries working with his wife in outreach ministry going into the streets watching God deliver other addicts on a regular basis.

Love NEVER fails. Do we truly believe that... or not? Some do and reap the reward.

1 Corinthians 7
 

dliz

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Hmmm... I think first thing that you should consider before looking a mate is to check whether he or she knows the Lord. And most importantly God should be the core center of your relationship. :)
 
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Donkeyfish07

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OH yeah, I forgot...

Guys date to find out if they like someone.

Girls date because they think that the guys already do.
I kinda disagree with that......I think that people know if they like each other almost right away....the rest of it is just figuring out if you can put up with each other or not :p
 
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Jullianna

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When a relationship progresses to the point of being a marriage, by all means do everything you can to make it work.

BUT...prior to making a marriage commitment, if you have doubts, see a lot of red flags, know on some level that you really shouldn't be with someone, know that you don't really care about them as you should/vice versa, why would you want to keep trying to make that relationship "work"? What would make you think it was God's will for you to be with that person?
 
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GreenNnice

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Sigh, I believe in the power of my God, but, wow, what a bunch of depressing truths here. There is therein, then, a way to get past going into a relationship with an unhappy person, I think, and, that's to be fully in tune with God in your life and be ready, don't be 'not happy' yourself, as LiamsON excellently put it.

I don't know that I would say so much 'enjoy the ride,' muletrout, :D , I like that nic, one of my faves :D , anyway, yeah, I would think, anyway, that that's the 'flippancy' way of going into things. I THINK,there needs to be more establishment than just liking to watch whales, as rachedge put it, there must be substance beyond a mere attraction to the same thing.

And, that foundation has got to bigger than life, for Christians, I think, or, the relationship will go sour quicker than you can say, 'Itore's laughing his buns off,' (love ya, buddy :) come back soon ) , OK, enough said, except that, we NEED to make a connection, we need buckle ourselves in before we go OUT for a relationship and we need to be seatbelted (love you too buddy, go where He leads, His power is in you) and just ready to go ON FAITH for where He wants us to travel and, I think, I believe, that God will show us a someone who is perfect for us, who can make us become someone who we are NOT and it will be ALL positive because God's plan is in the fold. :)

Co-dependent, princessaim, yes, there is NO way, unless God has you with that unique social worker personality, that we can be the one that is always having to make the decisions, having to earn all the money in the relationship (now, marriage, that's different, kind of, as roles can be more established, no? ) and is very touchy-feely and possessive. Won't work ! Destined for failure, that kind of relationship :(

What jordy said is well said, we look at the relationship with the wrong perspective. It takes two to make the relationship work, just like, and, some don't like it when I say this, but, in a divorce, which my parents have done, I remind them that BOTH made mistakes. A relationship, usually, does not end from one person's own self-destroying of the relationship, they have 'help' from their marriage partner :(

I think, as rickshafe said, that we ARE 'self-absorbed' these days in things like, LOL, the internet and things, and, to meet someone else one has to KNOW that they are going to be committed to someone else IF that relationship is to ever catch fire :)

And, as julieannie says, don't take a relationship situation lightly, pray, pray, pray, let the Lord show you His way, it's like walking on egg shells, sometimes, you REALLY like this person but just don't know what to do. Ask Him, the Lord will help you through and IF you give it your hardest best shot and it doesn't work out, there should be peace because you went about it His way :)

OK, I will let us all swim in those thoughts and I thank you all for your answers, God bless ALL your relationships this summer, and, I think, a good place to start with a relationshiip, if you don't have one , is a same sex accountable person whom is on fire for God and can be a helper to your finding a good someone out there. The Lord leads. "...you follow Me." :) John 21:22
 
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Donkeyfish07

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I don't know that I would say so much 'enjoy the ride,' muletrout, :D , I like that nic, one of my faves :D , anyway, yeah, I would think, anyway, that that's the 'flippancy' way of going into things. I THINK,there needs to be more establishment than just liking to watch whales, as rachedge put it, there must be substance beyond a mere attraction to the same thing.
Flippancy all the way here....I enjoy my flippancy :p.
 
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Alright.
I'm just going to say it.
Do you know that the way people used to get hitched was by their parents?
The adults who knew more about life and their children could see who would work with who much clearer than people struck by the blinding light of infatuation.
These actually lasted too.
We are too picky folks, just admit it.
We are spoiled.
The 'have it your way' mentality has crept into our spirits.
Do you really think God couldn't make it work?
God made a donkey talk.

If you are looking for the perfect mate you will end up asking God why He didn't provide her/him for you when you meet face to face;
at your end of days.
And guess what God might rejoin?
 
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Markum1972

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When a relationship progresses to the point of being a marriage, by all means do everything you can to make it work.

BUT...prior to making a marriage commitment, if you have doubts, see a lot of red flags, know on some level that you really shouldn't be with someone, know that you don't really care about them as you should/vice versa, why would you want to keep trying to make that relationship "work"? What would make you think it was God's will for you to be with that person?
I guess that would depend upon what you are doubting. This seems to become trivial when you add "dating" to natural affection and the union of two people into the order of things as God has created it to be.

I know that God did not intend us to put a "date" on our commitment to another to only condemn them as unfit for marriage at a later time. The world system of dating seems to succeed in creating more wounded and broken-hearted people than successful marriages. I think the entire system is based on fear and doubt. Certainly one should have wisdom and knowledge when choosing a mate. But that wisdom and knowledge should be evident before engaging in ANY kind of "interest". Otherwise, one person ends up condemned, sometimes even being told that it was not God's will for someone to be with them. God forbid. Isn't this the kind of iniquity that Jesus warned us to refrain from? In truth, it was never God's will for that person to ever have been treated in that manner. Do unto others as you would have them do to you? Whatever a man sows, so shall he reap. So then, who has sinned? The person that failed to meet the expectations of the other? Or the person that labelled them as unfit for use?

Condemnation: the act of condemning.
Condemn: : to adjudge unfit for use or consumption.

Matthew 7:[SUP]12 [/SUP]Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
 
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That's the thing about dating.
It's really two entirely different souls and sets of perspectives.
Date, date, date.
"I'm going on a date"
"I'm dating somebody"
Me and her, we used to date"
Such a commodity.
We're "going steady".
But God could use a bond servant to go out into a foreign land and bring back Rebekah to a forty year old Isaac.
- When they saw each other it was instant love.
- - Living out the rest of their lives together. (long lives back then)
 
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Jullianna

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I guess that would depend upon what you are doubting. This seems to become trivial when you add "dating" to natural affection and the union of two people into the order of things as God has created it to be.

I know that God did not intend us to put a "date" on our commitment to another to only condemn them as unfit for marriage at a later time. The world system of dating seems to succeed in creating more wounded and broken-hearted people than successful marriages. I think the entire system is based on fear and doubt. Certainly one should have wisdom and knowledge when choosing a mate. But that wisdom and knowledge should be evident before engaging in ANY kind of "interest". Otherwise, one person ends up condemned, sometimes even being told that it was not God's will for someone to be with them. God forbid. Isn't this the kind of iniquity that Jesus warned us to refrain from? In truth, it was never God's will for that person to ever have been treated in that manner. Do unto others as you would have them do to you? Whatever a man sows, so shall he reap. So then, who has sinned? The person that failed to meet the expectations of the other? Or the person that labelled them as unfit for use?

Condemnation: the act of condemning.
Condemn: : to adjudge unfit for use or consumption.

Matthew 7:[SUP]12 [/SUP]Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
I'm not sure to whom you are actually responding. I didn't say anything about "dating" or "doubting", so I'm a little confused. :)
 
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FireWire

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[h=3]2 Timothy 3[/h]But realize this, that in the last days difficult times will come. For men will be lovers of self, lovers of money, boastful, arrogant, revilers, disobedient to parents, ungrateful, unholy, unloving, irreconcilable, malicious gossips, without self-control, brutal, haters of good, treacherous, reckless, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, holding to a form of godliness, although they have denied its power; Avoid such men as these. (NASB)
 

Markum1972

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I'm not sure to whom you are actually responding. I didn't say anything about "dating" or "doubting", so I'm a little confused. :)
It was mostly in general. You stated "if you have doubts" so I probably clicked reply cause it provoked thought. It should have probably not been a reply though. ;)
 

CatHerder

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Alright.
I'm just going to say it.
Do you know that the way people used to get hitched was by their parents?
The adults who knew more about life and their children could see who would work with who much clearer than people struck by the blinding light of infatuation.
These actually lasted too.
We are too picky folks, just admit it.
We are spoiled.
The 'have it your way' mentality has crept into our spirits.
Do you really think God couldn't make it work?
God made a donkey talk.

If you are looking for the perfect mate you will end up asking God why He didn't provide her/him for you when you meet face to face;
at your end of days.
And guess what God might rejoin?
And this may work in a society where everyone has pretty much the same upbringing, set of values, culture, goals, and things haven't changed for several decades.
 
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GreenNnice

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i've 'liked' all your answers but seems most are thinking I was speaking of longtime relationships ending in failure. But, surprise, surprise, I'm not , I'm just going to do another thread with a sligtly different tilt, as this one can carry on with the angle of relationships headed for LONG-tERM success ending in failure as marriage approaches k-k-k? The Lord leads :)