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Totally agree the fact that my church has a rock has really helped bring in younger people... many people want go to church cause they find it boring add a lil entertainment an people will actually come an stay an hear his word.... mwny will say then the people are only coming for the music an not christ even if that where true at least there getting some christ with there music better thwn them going to a rock concert but most people who atte d are going for christ they just wlso really enjoy the music.
It pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe. 1 Cor 1:21
Music prepares the heart to worship. God is worshipped in Spirit and Truth. Both terms describe the word of God. They do not describe music. It has been observed that the more upbeat the music the less effective the preaching in the pulpit. Better to have no music at all than to have worldly music. God does not need upbeat music to draw souls to His Son. Especially when He has decreed that preaching is the methodology of His choice. Trust the preaching. Trust the word of God.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Music prepares the heart to worship. God is worshipped in Spirit and Truth. Both terms describe the word of God. They do not describe music. It has been observed that the more upbeat the music the less effective the preaching in the pulpit. Better to have no music at all than to have worldly music. God does not need upbeat music to draw souls to His Son. Especially when He has decreed that preaching is the methodology of His choice. Trust the preaching. Trust the word of God.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
You there doesnt need to be music at church and yet church attendances are dropping. Ask younger generations why and its boring. Having upeat music is in no way a ba thing if you stick to the message and dont change it. I know I for one would pick more upbeat music than dreary 300 year old hymns anyday.
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This has nothing to do with music in the Church, but there is a lesson to be learned.
Learning From Young Atheists: What Turned Them Off Christianity
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Learning From Young Atheists: What Turned Them Off Christianity
Read more at prophecynewswatch
We aren't to conform to world's standard in order to win souls to Christ. If what they'd rather hear is rock/screamo music then they might as well not show up to church. The church isn't a rock concert.
Romans 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
Romans 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
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Churches are always looking for new and fresh ways to draw in non believers. Vacation bible school, gets kids to want to go to church , which in turn gets parents there. Impact ministries help in the community. New fresh music can draw a crowd. Then you present the gospel. There is a difference in presieved need and actual need. They believe they need to be entertained and they hear the gospel of Christ , which is the actual need.
Nothing wrong with upbeat music as long as its biblical and presented as worship and NOT as entertainment. Too often that "upbeat music" is a performance with the "audience" waving their hands and pretending to worship while the band gets all the glory and God gets none. I realize that is not true in every church, but I've seen it enough to know it goes on a lot.
I guess it all comes down to this: is the primary focus of the Sunday service to evangelize or to worship God? I believe we gather to worship God. If all the attendees are worshiping in spirit and truth, non-believers WILL be drawn to God, and it does not matter whether the music is the newest of the new or some "dreary 300-year-old hymn" (which probably has greater and deeper theology than you'll find in almost any new work).
I guess it all comes down to this: is the primary focus of the Sunday service to evangelize or to worship God? I believe we gather to worship God. If all the attendees are worshiping in spirit and truth, non-believers WILL be drawn to God, and it does not matter whether the music is the newest of the new or some "dreary 300-year-old hymn" (which probably has greater and deeper theology than you'll find in almost any new work).
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I prefer more upbeat music like my mom, but my dad prefers hymns. While I accept that it's not the church's job to provide for my every musical need, (thus I listen to Air1 during spare time) good music is how some people get in tune with the Holy Spirit and is very vital to the heart and spirit of a church! David also spoke about the importance of music in many of his passages.
I agree that more young people need to attend the church. Older people also need to continue going, and they tend to enjoy old fashioned hymns more since it's what they're familiar with. Maybe churches with this concern might want to have two services- one with old fashioned hymns and another with more modern/upbeat music. Also it's important to have Youth Groups so that churches attract that age category and those groups will probably have more of an idea on the Christian songs that they would prefer.
I agree that more young people need to attend the church. Older people also need to continue going, and they tend to enjoy old fashioned hymns more since it's what they're familiar with. Maybe churches with this concern might want to have two services- one with old fashioned hymns and another with more modern/upbeat music. Also it's important to have Youth Groups so that churches attract that age category and those groups will probably have more of an idea on the Christian songs that they would prefer.
I honestly dont even know what to say to this anymore i mean im completly dumfounded by the fwct that people think like this... even my 86 year old grandpa who is stuck in his old ways for alot of things relizes my church an others like it are doing a good thing with there music an bringin innyouth.... i know id probaly have never come to christ if i badnt liked the music an keep going to cburch.
Amen. Yep Christians are to be separate from the world.
2 Corinthians 6:17-18 KJV
Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing ; and I will receive you, [18] And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.
2 Corinthians 6:17-18 KJV
Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing ; and I will receive you, [18] And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.
The problem is that history proves that thinking to be the road to apostasy. God has declared His method. Vary from it at your peril. Upbeat music can only entertain it cannot evangelize.
Spreading the gospel message is far different than just inviting folks to church to enjoy the upbeat music. They need to hear about sin, righteousness, and judgment. Seems many fear to trust the Lord to honor His word. The offense of the cross is necessary if men are to come to Christ. Just attending church does not a Christian make. Easy believe-ism is a false gospel. Conviction of sin by the Holy Spirit is not intended to be pleasant but it is absolutely necessary.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Spreading the gospel message is far different than just inviting folks to church to enjoy the upbeat music. They need to hear about sin, righteousness, and judgment. Seems many fear to trust the Lord to honor His word. The offense of the cross is necessary if men are to come to Christ. Just attending church does not a Christian make. Easy believe-ism is a false gospel. Conviction of sin by the Holy Spirit is not intended to be pleasant but it is absolutely necessary.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
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Amen, we are to do things accoring to His will for our life and however He leads is good and MANY have been saved by The Rock through rock music, just have, God couldn't reach their brains any other way but that
The power unto salvation is in 'the rock,' not the music, something for you all to think about that have been chosen by Him
The power unto salvation is in 'the rock,' not the music, something for you all to think about that have been chosen by Him
Well church will not be boring if the pastor of that church is preaching the word of God.
Most of the churches have lost their power because they have forsaken the word of God. And they put in place of it all these different "programs" like how to have a good sex life, or how to cope with your feelings, and all the other psychological nonsense. It's like Peter Ruckman said one time, all this hoping and coping, and sharing and caring has just infiltrated most of mainstream Christianity. If you want to find a church that is alive and exciting and that has power. Well then find a good Bible believing church, where the pastor preaches the word of God and believes the Book. And of course make sure they sing the good old hymns
There is power in the biblical hymns!
Most of the churches have lost their power because they have forsaken the word of God. And they put in place of it all these different "programs" like how to have a good sex life, or how to cope with your feelings, and all the other psychological nonsense. It's like Peter Ruckman said one time, all this hoping and coping, and sharing and caring has just infiltrated most of mainstream Christianity. If you want to find a church that is alive and exciting and that has power. Well then find a good Bible believing church, where the pastor preaches the word of God and believes the Book. And of course make sure they sing the good old hymns
There is power in the biblical hymns!
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Funny because every chuch ive been to with a goor band has all been good loving christians an pretty much every church ive been to that just sings old hyms is made up of rude grumpy people stuck in there old ways an the laws instead of focusing on love an there pretty much no young people there so sorry but ill stick with the one that really seems to be doing good for christ an not just sitting arou d talking about how rock music is bad an how dying your hair is evil an this wn that that only achives driving people away.
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