Conspiracy Theorists vs. the Bible

[Hoffco]

Hi Yeee allll, my southern accent, I have two children in N.C..
I have my best study guide out, Strong's exh.. concordance. Daniel uses the word "end", 20 + times , many times it means,in Daniel, the end of evil kingdoms and the beginning of Christ's kingdom on this earth.See the last verse Dan 12:13, "But you, (Daniel) go your way till the end; for you shall rest, (die) and will rise to your inheritance at the end of the days. ( the last days) Daniel is promised, he will rise from the dead, to eternal life, Dan 12:2,3 And 12:1 tells us "At that time" the resurrection from the dead will be immediately after Jesus comes and over throws the last evil kingdom of earth, the 4th one
that lasts all the way to the resurrection day, THE "LAST DAY" OF THIS PRESENT EARTH. then Jesus will recreate this earth into the NEW EARTH.......ETERNITY
The time period of Daniel is from Daniel's day to the New heavens and the new earth.Rev.: 20-21
be blessed, Hoffco ps. allegories have real physical meanings, and/or a spiritual meaning

 

[Hoffco]

Hi my friends, From paradice city of Davao, LOL, The high rise hotels and malls are going up all over. Mel and I found an "American" food store, believe or not, some prices, are lower, on big bags,boxes of cold cereal pancake floor, good news for my dollars. It looks like a large warehouse, great N.Y. pizza. But I can not afford the STARBUCKS coffee shops. The world bank is meeting with nation leaders here, banks? pres. Aqino,whoever? and help the economy keep growing, that will hurt my dollar.ouch. If the USA military comes back to Scuba, it will be "sin city" again. Like whore?? city Rome. I'm thankful that the Philippines is not as wicked as the USA, they don't allow abortion here. But, if I had My choice, I would be still living on my farm,wood land in the Adirondack mts. of N.Y.. But, God called and blesses me here.
We are so blessed today, to be the last generation in which Christ will return. Mt 24:32-36 Israel is putting forth leaves, summer, Christ's return, is near. The only piece of the puzzle missing, is "the man of sin" 2Thess,2:3. We will not know "the day or hour" but we will know the Season. Dan, Eze, and Rev. hold the keys to understand the season. It is still a little mysterious, how that 4th kingdom of Daniel can last over 2500 yrs. ; but I know we will see clearer as the geopolitical relationships develop. As I compare, Dan, Eze Zech the Gospels and Rev, I see the rapture of the Church in Rev,6:12-17; meanwhile, lets be busy harvesting souls WITH Jesus. only Jesus can save a soul. By soul, I mean, Spirit/soul and body.
As Tenn. Earner Ford used to say,"God bless your pea picken hearts" Hoffco time for a little more shut eye

 

[Hoffco]

I am back, before I get out doors to do some manual labor, I will stir up the think tank again, We need to be "radical" in our search for God's truth, as ,was it Noel, who said that, well, I agree. Daniel is such a WONDERFUL BOOK for us today,
I think our day will be more like his before Jesus returns.
consider: Dan.2:20-22 God is all sovereign,all wise, all knowing. 4:25 The Most High rules all kingdoms. 6:26 God's kingdom will rule the earth to the end of all ages. 7:26-27 God will destroy all kingdoms and will give His everlasting kingdom to "the saints of the "Most High" God.!!! We ,who are"Saints", are a part of God's spiritual kingdom today and in the end of this age we will rule, with Jesus, this present earth, for 1,000 yrs, praise the"Most High God" see Rev.20:6 Mt.19:28 Acts 1:6-7.!!! After Jesus has put down the final rebellion: He will rest with the saints for all eternity on His new earth, for ever and ever, world without end, Amen! Be blessed in Jesus name Hoffco

 

[Hoffco]

Hi, everyone must be on vacation, enjoy.
I would say with our hindsight . most of Daniel is easy to understand. the first 3 kingdom are identified fo us:
1st Babylon, 2nd Medes and Persians,8:20. 3rd Greece,8:21. and the 4th must be the Roman emp.. but who the little among the ten horns? History helps we calculate the first 69 weeks, 493 yrs, to the death of Jesus, and an educated guess, with collaborating scriptures, helps us understand, that the last week, the 70th week, is during the second advent of Christ. All the rest is "elementary,Dr. Watson", OR, maybe you could put your name here, Mr.Mrs.or Miss. oops, sorry, low blow. LOL
For you of the Ref, faith, please keep in mind,allegory is not an option, the Jews have an everlasting covenant given to them unconditionally by God, and you have to blind not to see, the N.T. predicts Gods future dealing with them as a nation.
The replacement theory is, in my humble opinion, of the Devil. WHICH MEAMS iLOVE YOU IN Christ, and if
I have to, I will say, I'm sorry, please forgive me, at the judgment seat of Christ.

 

[Hoffco]

Sorry for being so forward and missed words and incomplete thoughts at times, You should see it before I proof read it. LOL
I HAVE SOOOO MUCH ENJOYED MY 52 YRS OF STUDYING GOD'S WORD. It has become my full time habit. I never was good in English. In fact, I got better grades in 1st yr. Greek. but the second yr was tooo hard for me. I never did learn the new math, partly because my 1st. wife was so good at tutoring our children, I didn't have to,and my job and preaching kept me very busy. That child has turned all my children against me, in around about way.
Why do I hate the allegorical interpretation? Because, it treats God's word as a fairy tale, a myth. It implies that God is not interested in honesty revealing Himself to us. If the context or history does not reveal the truth to us then it is a mystery known only by God.
Why am I writing so much? I want to write my autobiography, some day, if my children, will allow my grandchildren to read it, they could see what kind of a person I was. My one child was so mean to me, I would not allow her to come home after college. I never saw her, to talk to, until I was forced to go to her home when her first child was 6 and her son was 2yrs old. I only went then, to drive my wife there because she had lost an eye to cancer and could not drive herself. Our other three children never tried to split my wife and I up. They were great children. I never have been able to understand it: except that she ,1st daughter, is just like me, bull headed and strong willed. She hated me being the "BOSS". I commanded and shouted at my whole family, like a good army Sargent does. But only she and my wife rebelled. My 1st. wife was a silent rebel against my will, in that she never raised her voice, but she quietly rebuked me in front of our children, it was a very dysfunctional home. I had no authority. Most friends blamed me and the ones who saw the whole truth , could not , or would not help.
Before my PC eats this up, I will send it and save it. Hofco

 

[Hoffco]

Good morning to all, Maayong Buntag sa Tanan, this is Visayan, for, good morning to all. This is a Mindanao dialect. My beautiful wife is Mantayan. I have walked, 27 Kilometers ,with the family to there mountain home land, Cagan valley. It would be nice to live there , like a valley in my home land in the Adirondack mts. of N.Y.. but the NPA might kidnap me.
Next time ,I will look at God's plan of how He will carry out our redemption by the use of His plan for His servant Satan. Gabriel comes to Daniel to reveal God's plan for Israel ,70 weeks,. notice the purpose, Dan.9:24: Part of this, the first three blessings, were done on the cross by Jesus but the last three will be done,to Israel, by Jesus at His second advent to earth, in a few yrs. from now. Israel has never been brought into the new covenant salvation, the nation will be saved when they look upon their Savior, Messiah, at Jesus' second coming to Jerusalem. Keep looking up! our salvation draws near! Blessings to all, Hoffco

 

[Hoffco]

Ayo? is anyone home! A'yo , You stand at the gate, at a home and say,ask, A'yo? which is, are you home? I must have bad breath, you all have left me alone, Is the hand writing on my wall? LOL i AM THINKING, THE WOOD IS BURNING,SORRY sorry, sooo, what shall I do? To BE or nor to BE? I feel, sooo I AM! I BE! LOL. IT IS A GOOD DAY TO BE ALIVE! I can smell my breakfast cooking ; soon, kaon' ko panahaw', lit., eat I breakfast,I eat breakfast.Ook. Dan. 9:24 "Seventy weeks are determined for your people and for your holy city, 1. To finish the transgression, 2. To make any end of sins,3. to make reconciliation for iniquity, 4. To bring in everlasting righteousness, 5. To seal up vision and prophecy, 6. And to anoint the Most Holy.The Reform church says, see God is all done with Israel, the 70th wk. happen in 70 ad with the destruction of the temple. Is that right? The dispensationalists say,no! As I read the N.T. , I would also say, No way Hosa! I read in the N.T. that God's chosen nation has a future in the end time, Jesus predicted it, and the apostles predicted Israel future kingdom, please,read the N.T. again and look for Israel's future. Also, With my N.T. view of atonement, I would say, this,#3, was done by Christ on the cross "it is finished" the price is paid for redemption, the death of Christ, "it is paid," "once for all" DONE. For "all" 1tim.2:5 "a ramson for all" all mankind. YET, just, for "many" Mt. 20:28 "gave His life a ransom for many", limited to the elect of God. So, the death of Christ is both "general" for all: YET , also, "spicific" "limited" for/to, the elect of God. So the Wesminister conf. is half right and half wrong. and half trues are lies, deceptive, at the least, But, not always a lie. More on the nature of the death of christ in : 2Cor.5:18-20 "Now all things are of God, who has reconciled us to Himself through Christ and has given us the ministry of reconciliation. ...we implore you on Christ's behalf be reconciled to God." More later. bless you all. Hoffco ps, Please keep in mind ,the nation of Israel has never anointed "THE MOST HIGH". This they, the nation of Israel, will do at JESUS second coming.

 

[MrOrganic100]

the bible says this about who runs the world...

psalm 47:8..."God reigns over the nations, God sits on His holy throne."

yet i have lost count of how many times a conspiracy theorist has implied the opposite...asserting that the nations answer to satan and his minions...or even openly said things to the effect of 'satan rules the world'...

so are we going to go with what the bible says...or the world according to 'pinky and the brain'?

God's kingdom has not yet come. Right now Satan is the one running the world's system, but only because God is allowing him to. In fact, the apostle John says that the whole world is under the sway of the evil one (1 John 5:19). The people who control our governments are satanists. But most people don't do any proper investigation. They just howl "conspiracy theorist." I just let them believe what they want. The truth always comes out in the end.

 

[Hoffco]

How ,in GOD'S world, can anyone believe in the Bible and study it, and say, God is not in control? Many rulers in this world have been very godly people. Ignorance is not bliss, please read the Bible a little more and ask God to illumination your mind to His truth. I am not just replying to MrOrganic100, their are sooo many of you, who go on and on in your one sided ignorance. The Bible is full of many paradoxical trues ,and if we don't recognize them, we fight God in revealing His truth to us and others. Please study hard and rightly relate all sides of the truth. Hoffco.

 

[Stravinsk]

the bible says this about who runs the world...

psalm 47:8..."God reigns over the nations, God sits on His holy throne."

yet i have lost count of how many times a conspiracy theorist has implied the opposite...asserting that the nations answer to satan and his minions...or even openly said things to the effect of 'satan rules the world'...

so are we going to go with what the bible says...or the world according to 'pinky and the brain'?

They do conspire: Psalms 2

John 14:29-31 - who is the "prince of this world"? Why is he called a "prince?"

Also something to think about - The Devil's temptation of Jesus included:


[SUP]Matthew 4:8 [/SUP]Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor. [SUP]9 [/SUP]“All this I will give you,” he said, “if you will bow down and worship me.”

[SUP]10 [/SUP]Jesus said to him, “Away from me, Satan! For it is written: ‘Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.’[SUP][e][/SUP]”

 

[CoooCaw]

This conspiracy is being formulated RIGHT NOW

They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.
PSALM 83:4

 

[jimmydiggs]

This conspiracy is being formulated RIGHT NOW

They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.
PSALM 83:4

Hello GreatKaw. I thought you were over with the truchristians.

Could you explain this conspiracy further?

 

[CoooCaw]

just google isralestine or psalm 83

who is great kraw?

Hello GreatKaw. I thought you were over with the truchristians.

Could you explain this conspiracy further?

 

[phillip1980]

God uses Satan, angels, people, the earth, and all creation to accomplish his goals. He uses unclean things to do unclean things and clean things to do clean things. God sent satan to deceive the whole world except for his elect. What greater conspiracy than deceiving the whole world.

Read the Bible

 

[Tintin]

God uses Satan, angels, people, the earth, and all creation to accomplish his goals. He uses unclean things to do unclean things and clean things to do clean things. God sent satan to deceive the whole world except for his elect. What greater conspiracy than deceiving the whole world.

Read the Bible

No. That's not it.

 

[Hoffco]

To Phillip1980, your post 84 is a great summary of what God is doing now on great planet earth. God is setting the scene for Jesus' 2nd coming to earth, when there will NOT be one saved person left on this earth. The Raptures will take every believer out of this earth and the 144,000 Jews will be born again by God, after the rapture; BUT they will be killed by the anti christ , which will mean, there are NO believers left on earth, at Jesus 2nd. coming to earth. NOW, LETS see how many Christions are a part of Satan's end time conspiracy? It is sooo sad to see how far the Christians havefallen from the truth of God's word. Hoffco

 

[Hoffco]

To TinTin, There is a depth to C.S.Lewis' thoughts that Christians can not fathom. Your quote is alluding to Jh. 3:16-21. Christians have sooo abused JH.3:16, God's "goodness", that they mock the goodness of God. to the destruction of many souls. BUT, as Paul says in Gal. 6 God is not, and will not be mocked by sinful neglect of holiness of life which God demands for salvation. The Gk. tense, or case is in the subjunctive, which is a not fact, but a POSSIBLITY of salvation for the believer, because there are different kinds of faith, but only a repentant, committing faith saves. Faith in the head will not save, only a loving God faith saves. Only those who cone to the light , falling on their knees' faith, begging for a new heart to love and obey Jesus,will be saved. Jh. 3:20-21 "For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed. But he who does the truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be clearly seen, that they have been done in God." What ,in the world of God, is God saying here? VERY simple, only those who are BORN of GOD, will respond in submission to Jesus, true faith is a total commitment to Jesus' LORDSHIP. As in, Rom. 10:9-10 Only those who believe in heart and confess Jesus as LORD are save, born of God. the word "ARE" is critical to understand. "ARE" is a state of being, our repentance faith and works DON'T save us, OUR actions, only show we "are" born of GOD. WE are born again only by GOD'S grace, (power and mercy). love to all, Hoffco

 

[Hoffco]

C.S.Lewis is talking of the hypocrite Jews who in Rom.2:4"...you despise the riches of His goodness, forbearance, and longsuffering, not knowing that the goodness of God leads you to repentance? " The natural reaction of men to the goodness of God in creation and revelation should lead them to love God, but there is also the wrath of God seen in our sufferings in life, because of the curse of God, so the sinful heart hates the God of creation. Which teaches us that we need the conversion of the Spirit before we will love God and be happy for His goodness and punishments in the curse, knowing the discipline of God leads to eternal life, for as His children. Love to all, Hoffco

 

[Hoffco]

This is a very important topic to nail down with clear Bible teaching. Satan has a program, conspiracy, to deceive as many as He can as Christ's 2nd coming draws nearer.The man of sin will be full of the power of Satan with signs and lying wonders and false miracles, 2Thess.2:10-12 "...unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, That they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness." The man of sin has not yet come, but we need to know what he will look like so we can spot him when he comes. MEANWHILE , Then Paul speaks to the saved. 2Thess2:13-14 "But we are bound to give thanks to God always for you, brethren beloved by the Lord, because God from the beginning chose you for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and belief in the truth, to which He called you by our gospel, for the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. Paul wants us to know what the real Christian looks like, He is one Born of God into Gods family with God's likeness ,recreated in the image of God, with true knowledge of God, and a holy heart, and a holy life pattern of living, a sanctified person. And he is one who believes and receives Jesus as His Savior and Lord. John tells us the spirit of anti christ is working in the world now. So we need to beware of Satan's ways. We read in Eph.4:11-15 That God gave us leaders to equip us for the work of the ministry. All Christians should be in the ministry of the Church. v.14" That we should no longer be children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting, But, speaking the truth in love, may grow up in all things into Him who is the head-Christ-" If we could focus on the conspiracy of the Devil ,we could do good for the Church of Christ to grow up into the likeness of Christ. Please try to not attack a person, but correct the person with God's truth in the scriptures to prove your point, to the edification of all who read. Love to all, Hoffco

 

[danalee]

Here are the facts: Fact 1- satan thinks he is god, but he is really an idiot. >>


I had to laugh really hard at that, too funny.

Whenever Satan's influence comes over me I end up acting like an idiot.