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PATRICKHENRNYPATRIOT
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inherited you claim. how does that claim jive with those who change from hetero to homosexual. i have heard testimonies of those who were recruited.
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isaria
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True and it better honest than if by hiding it/covering it using horrid methods they causing much suffering and harm
They can also choose to love and not act upon lust and attraction and act upon what they feel.
Many people are always sexual fantasising and lusting for anything and everything but may not act upon it and even heterosexual men and woman may lust some one at work or attracted to many others and desire them madly but still not act upon it and dicsipline selves not to cheat on spouse or sleep with all these people.
Others may sleep with some one if they are drunk of the rockers and or dominated and easily led to such in unconcious state.
Some may be raped.
It is not been approved marry in church though is it?
Catholic church would have no such thing and i respect that although what the good pope was saying there seems to be homosexual activities under cover in top positions of vatican.
Maybe men under burkas or using a woman as slave to cover up gayness the men have and use her femininity to soften the way they feel and look and she forsed feel them which she not want.
I do not agree with homosexual marriages in church.
I have been surrounded by it and told be "open minded".
I have lived among filthyness and been with it and been it.
Is love a sin.
No.
But lust can be a sin.
One woman I know of chose friendship and sacrificed for her friend to protect her and love her as friend instead of appreciate her she stole from her and raped her and chose lust and greed.
They are no longer friends.
The betrayal was astounding and years and years of rape, gay rape and many other things.
She loved this genitals more than friend that she chose not to respect friend not gay or bisexual and she said NO.....
I try discuss with myself as it surrounds me and yes, it is every one right to choose what sexuality they want to live and act upon and have and desire and i do not beleive in discriminating homosexuals nor the opposite which has been happening where they living "in the clouds" but not in a good way like there has been a bad life style and nastyness, gossip, etc involving lot of this and not so down to earth and yes these men and woman exist also but there has been hateful bad behaved homosexuals that rape straight people and abuse them , bully them .
Some homosexuals i have loved.
I still love.
Good people. a better gay people.
But if they rape you and try forse you to sich twisted marriages and/or there idea of "creative solution" to sexuality and no is no then not respecting you.
Maybe some use burkas and steal a womans burka and .....
sigh........
I find my self trying to excuse it some how and "different species"..........
Even heard of plastic surgery genitals
take cat from
or cut sides out shadow true main if straight and they want .........
many bad things have happened.
and those who are homosexuals should strive for good moral as possible we all should
i shake head in disbelief things happened.
Stories i can not write of here but you would be astounded a man may say "imagination" Creativity but when you are hurting some one, ruining life good being.....and it not for food.
I always try encourage people into "9" and chanel the sex, regardless what sexuality it seems make them a better being.
Also important have compassion, understanding, support to be better self
I do not like it for me.
They can also choose to love and not act upon lust and attraction and act upon what they feel.
Many people are always sexual fantasising and lusting for anything and everything but may not act upon it and even heterosexual men and woman may lust some one at work or attracted to many others and desire them madly but still not act upon it and dicsipline selves not to cheat on spouse or sleep with all these people.
Others may sleep with some one if they are drunk of the rockers and or dominated and easily led to such in unconcious state.
Some may be raped.
It is not been approved marry in church though is it?
Catholic church would have no such thing and i respect that although what the good pope was saying there seems to be homosexual activities under cover in top positions of vatican.
Maybe men under burkas or using a woman as slave to cover up gayness the men have and use her femininity to soften the way they feel and look and she forsed feel them which she not want.
I do not agree with homosexual marriages in church.
I have been surrounded by it and told be "open minded".
I have lived among filthyness and been with it and been it.
Is love a sin.
No.
But lust can be a sin.
One woman I know of chose friendship and sacrificed for her friend to protect her and love her as friend instead of appreciate her she stole from her and raped her and chose lust and greed.
They are no longer friends.
The betrayal was astounding and years and years of rape, gay rape and many other things.
She loved this genitals more than friend that she chose not to respect friend not gay or bisexual and she said NO.....
I try discuss with myself as it surrounds me and yes, it is every one right to choose what sexuality they want to live and act upon and have and desire and i do not beleive in discriminating homosexuals nor the opposite which has been happening where they living "in the clouds" but not in a good way like there has been a bad life style and nastyness, gossip, etc involving lot of this and not so down to earth and yes these men and woman exist also but there has been hateful bad behaved homosexuals that rape straight people and abuse them , bully them .
Some homosexuals i have loved.
I still love.
Good people. a better gay people.
But if they rape you and try forse you to sich twisted marriages and/or there idea of "creative solution" to sexuality and no is no then not respecting you.
Maybe some use burkas and steal a womans burka and .....
sigh........
I find my self trying to excuse it some how and "different species"..........
Even heard of plastic surgery genitals
take cat from
or cut sides out shadow true main if straight and they want .........
many bad things have happened.
and those who are homosexuals should strive for good moral as possible we all should
i shake head in disbelief things happened.
Stories i can not write of here but you would be astounded a man may say "imagination" Creativity but when you are hurting some one, ruining life good being.....and it not for food.
I always try encourage people into "9" and chanel the sex, regardless what sexuality it seems make them a better being.
Also important have compassion, understanding, support to be better self
I do not like it for me.
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isaria
Guest
i be androgyn and if i born both sexes then maybe a creative and good solution is made of a balance and choice of willed be.
Balance in 9 and find true self and Gods will and pray and talk with jesus and self what feels is right for you in this body.
Even if so, one should not be raped.
Some have been drugged, tied up and raped for years and in restraint and walked round like a leash when it against the will of them as they did not want to be with that party.
Different situations.
Being desexed or like your side cut out of you may be very disabling.
There is usually a good answer .
There used to be hateful, intolerent bad ways of sex and punishment of and for sex in olden days which contradicted all in first place.
im just blabbering away now.
goodnight
God bless
over and out
Balance in 9 and find true self and Gods will and pray and talk with jesus and self what feels is right for you in this body.
Even if so, one should not be raped.
Some have been drugged, tied up and raped for years and in restraint and walked round like a leash when it against the will of them as they did not want to be with that party.
Different situations.
Being desexed or like your side cut out of you may be very disabling.
There is usually a good answer .
There used to be hateful, intolerent bad ways of sex and punishment of and for sex in olden days which contradicted all in first place.
im just blabbering away now.
goodnight
God bless
over and out
inborn
Recruited?
What they got a pamphlet and said “hey I guess I’ll givethis a try”
James 1:15
Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.
No mention of homosexuality in there. I think you are pretending it says something else.
And unless you can actually prove that somehow being gay leads to abortion, pedophilia,
and drug usage I'm not going to take those claims seriously.
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AgeofKnowledge
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There are many definitions and uses for the words prejudice and discrimination. The most commonly used application of the word prejudice I see is when an adverse opinion is levied apart from the facts (e.g. misinformation) which can result in unwarranted discrimination.
However, when one has the facts and discriminates in the sense they act in good judgment based on the facts than that is good.
However, when one has the facts and discriminates in the sense they act in good judgment based on the facts than that is good.
So denying minorities the same rights you enjoy whilevilifying them are good things to you?
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transient
Guest
James 1:15 is about sin in general, and homosexuality clearly is a sin, so why shouldn't this passage also be about homosexuality? Even moreso when we take the previous verse into account:
[SUP]14 [/SUP]But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.
The KJV doesn't mention the word 'homosexuality' as such, but that doesn't mean there are no passages that speak about that sin, nor does it mean that we cannot apply passages that are about sin in general to homosexuality. I never said that being gay leads to abortion etc, I said that the 'gay movement' tries to legalize all kinds of sin. You want proof? Just read a newspaper or watch the news. The whole world is about 'lust' these days, not about God. People who give in to sin can only stand being around other sinners, so that's why they are trying to make the world Satan's playground.
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AgeofKnowledge
Guest
You have just asked a "loaded question" (e.g. complex question fallacy) containing an unjustified assumption (e.g., a presumption of guilt) which shows that you are more interested in engaging in fallacious argumentation in support of your agenda rather than an honest discussion.
But I'll play along with your foolish immature game for now.
Correctly labeling an immoral activity as immoral does not equate to an act of vilification.
And, people who engage in homosexual acts have exactly every right I do plus better protection under existing law. So in addition to engaging in fallacious reasoning, you are also making a false assertion.
But I'll play along with your foolish immature game for now.
Correctly labeling an immoral activity as immoral does not equate to an act of vilification.
And, people who engage in homosexual acts have exactly every right I do plus better protection under existing law. So in addition to engaging in fallacious reasoning, you are also making a false assertion.
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woka
Guest
For me it does not matter what the act is homesexuality, alcholism, abuse, self mutilization and the list goes on. The Lord said sin is sin, and we all fall short of the Glory of God. Consequences for decisions we make too come from the Lord, and believe me, I have lived my fair share of these. Just as my earthly father does not want to see me suffering hardship so too does my heavely father not want to see it. If the Lord were to just rescue me out of every bad decision I have made, what would I have learnt........nothing. So is having said this, I want to say that when I talk to, encourage, share the gospel, with anyone whatever their sin is, it becomes obsolete to me.
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try to look at them with love, I see them as a helpless sinner just like me, I pray and try to remove my own predjudices, and my own judgement of them, I have never walked in their shoes, I have never lived their lives, I do not know the emotional abuse, physical abuse they might of suffered. I do not know the lies they have been told by the biggest liar satan throughout their lives, that have lead them to where they are. I do however know that there is only one Prince of truth, and the truth will set them free.
The truth is their is a saviour that died for you on a cross, the truth is He wants a personal relationship with you, the truth is he knew you before he laid the foundations of the eath, the truth is He totally accepts you where you are currently at just for who you are. Love is the most powerful thing of all it is what drove my saviour to the cross, it is what made Him sacrifice just for me, just for you.When anyone gets an understand how ever limited that might be because of where they currently are emotionally, spiritually there is no denying the truth of Jesus. It is from this point and this place that the holy spirit can begin to work, and open up their eyes and ours to our lifestlye to what our current sin is, to the changes we want to make to be close to Him.
Acceptance and love is what my Saviour demenstrated on the cross, if we all had to be sin free before we came to the Lord none of us would qualify, and when we meet Jesus the change happens, if it does not then we never truly me Him.
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try to look at them with love, I see them as a helpless sinner just like me, I pray and try to remove my own predjudices, and my own judgement of them, I have never walked in their shoes, I have never lived their lives, I do not know the emotional abuse, physical abuse they might of suffered. I do not know the lies they have been told by the biggest liar satan throughout their lives, that have lead them to where they are. I do however know that there is only one Prince of truth, and the truth will set them free.
The truth is their is a saviour that died for you on a cross, the truth is He wants a personal relationship with you, the truth is he knew you before he laid the foundations of the eath, the truth is He totally accepts you where you are currently at just for who you are. Love is the most powerful thing of all it is what drove my saviour to the cross, it is what made Him sacrifice just for me, just for you.When anyone gets an understand how ever limited that might be because of where they currently are emotionally, spiritually there is no denying the truth of Jesus. It is from this point and this place that the holy spirit can begin to work, and open up their eyes and ours to our lifestlye to what our current sin is, to the changes we want to make to be close to Him.
Acceptance and love is what my Saviour demenstrated on the cross, if we all had to be sin free before we came to the Lord none of us would qualify, and when we meet Jesus the change happens, if it does not then we never truly me Him.
Homosexuality isn't the only sin that's mentioned in the Bible but keeps on
getting brought up by Christians for some reason. I think that the reason is
because some straight people think it's gross. That's it, that's what the
argument boils down to. Some straight people think it's gross.
Now tell me would your position be reversed if the Bible made no
mention whatsoever of homosexuality? Or even said it was perfectly
acceptable? I'm assuming probably not because you people still think
it's gross.
Sorry, but just because someone thinks it's detestable or unappealing
doesn't mean you can deny homosexuals the same rights that you claim
for yourself.
getting brought up by Christians for some reason. I think that the reason is
because some straight people think it's gross. That's it, that's what the
argument boils down to. Some straight people think it's gross.
Now tell me would your position be reversed if the Bible made no
mention whatsoever of homosexuality? Or even said it was perfectly
acceptable? I'm assuming probably not because you people still think
it's gross.
Sorry, but just because someone thinks it's detestable or unappealing
doesn't mean you can deny homosexuals the same rights that you claim
for yourself.
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AgeofKnowledge
Guest
We forgive you for your conjecture, false assertions, ignorance, and projecting a false view of our position.
Care to answer the question honestly? And why exactly do you hold the position
against equal rights?
Would your position be reversed if the Bible made no mention whatsoever
of homosexuality? Or even said it was perfectly acceptable?
Bigotry wrapped in religion is still bigotry.
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AgeofKnowledge
Guest
It's normal to lead with a question rather than to make false assertions and misrepresent the positions of others, then apologize for it, then do a straight 180 and end with a false insinuation. You're all over the map.
Myself, I've already answered the question honestly but you never used the search button to see if I did just like you never bothered to ask the question to begin with before making such ridiculous posts.
In my educated opinion, you still have a lot of growing up to do for someone who claims to be 33 years of age. Right away you are in desperate need of a good logic 101 course to help you think reasonably, a good communications course to help you communicate reasonably, and a good philosophy 101 course to help you better see the options available instead of simply defaulting to your own bias.
I have to leave to assist family but we may talk about your many shortcomings in these areas later and how they are leading you into error.
Myself, I've already answered the question honestly but you never used the search button to see if I did just like you never bothered to ask the question to begin with before making such ridiculous posts.
In my educated opinion, you still have a lot of growing up to do for someone who claims to be 33 years of age. Right away you are in desperate need of a good logic 101 course to help you think reasonably, a good communications course to help you communicate reasonably, and a good philosophy 101 course to help you better see the options available instead of simply defaulting to your own bias.
I have to leave to assist family but we may talk about your many shortcomings in these areas later and how they are leading you into error.
Great, can't wait until you or anyone else actually address
the questions instead of dodging them. Ad hominim attacks
are typical of someone who doesn't have a good answer.
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isaria
Guest
Did I lie when I said i love some gay people.
Maybe.
I do not have gay friends maybe i was refering to people in media or neighbour hood one likes that seeeeem nice but seeming and being is different things.
Or a man I always love to see and meet and was told he is homosexual but people lie and gossip maybe he is not.
I have been lied about and not a little either.
False gossip by malicious group is not uncommon specially if they are many and well known.
I am bilingual and educated but can not articulate myself in writing or speech well so people often may think I am only stupid with no wisdom and education and someone said i am in high school for ever but so is not truth as those who know me and heard my whisper, sign language and language when real communication know i educated.
One should not discriminate.
Still do not beleive in gay marriages in church and am apposed it but do try negotiate and discuss with myself but still no.
Homosexual people who live openly and respectfully are by law to be respected as any other member of society as long as they do not do crime or bad behaviours , rape etc.
If a treemanenergyroman.
It is the individuals choice as it is choice if they choose live as homosexual to do crime or to cheat on spouse or be a smoker or a whisky every friday night .
Some christians are heterosexual , homosexual attractions but live iwith out sex waiting for marriage or maybe they are a nun or priest chose not to marry or have sexual life.
I just do not think it should be permited in church as one does not change scriptures to suit ones desires, wants and so forth.
If some one was taken to surgery wakes up as they only put to sleep then they wake up lay there cut open and in pain and see woman lay next to them on surgery room to have plastic surgery to look like them (for what reason? money, steal cat *lol* steal life...) and if group of educated organised crime people are all in on this.
Then woman with scalpel says "i want watch you suffer" and a man is masturbating and you say "are our children safe" to who, a angel, god.
Then that sexuality is worse than homosexuality or maybe hand in hand with it if it be a man to look like this woman in detail which they can do when she "knocked out".
They can say they are heterosexual christians but that is crime to use education and contact network and pay people to get your sadist sex fantasises to live.
They have snuff movies where they torture and kill people and it makes them aroused watch.
They also have pedophile files and files of disabling people and aged care rape and all kinds horrid things that is not connected but thaaaaat is what arouses them.
"no fun if other party in on it"
They sell these movies for a lot of money and sometimes the one subjected does not know about it.
Dominate a body, take over a body.
Big males drugged and used.
Be suprised things heard happen.
Putting hamster a plastic roller in anus then a hamster in it and lighting a lighter so hamster got burnt.
Sexuality is ones own business?
Not when it becomes crime.
Like a sadist uses lust in work.
blabbering again
Maybe.
I do not have gay friends maybe i was refering to people in media or neighbour hood one likes that seeeeem nice but seeming and being is different things.
Or a man I always love to see and meet and was told he is homosexual but people lie and gossip maybe he is not.
I have been lied about and not a little either.
False gossip by malicious group is not uncommon specially if they are many and well known.
I am bilingual and educated but can not articulate myself in writing or speech well so people often may think I am only stupid with no wisdom and education and someone said i am in high school for ever but so is not truth as those who know me and heard my whisper, sign language and language when real communication know i educated.
One should not discriminate.
Still do not beleive in gay marriages in church and am apposed it but do try negotiate and discuss with myself but still no.
Homosexual people who live openly and respectfully are by law to be respected as any other member of society as long as they do not do crime or bad behaviours , rape etc.
If a treemanenergyroman.
It is the individuals choice as it is choice if they choose live as homosexual to do crime or to cheat on spouse or be a smoker or a whisky every friday night .
Some christians are heterosexual , homosexual attractions but live iwith out sex waiting for marriage or maybe they are a nun or priest chose not to marry or have sexual life.
I just do not think it should be permited in church as one does not change scriptures to suit ones desires, wants and so forth.
If some one was taken to surgery wakes up as they only put to sleep then they wake up lay there cut open and in pain and see woman lay next to them on surgery room to have plastic surgery to look like them (for what reason? money, steal cat *lol* steal life...) and if group of educated organised crime people are all in on this.
Then woman with scalpel says "i want watch you suffer" and a man is masturbating and you say "are our children safe" to who, a angel, god.
Then that sexuality is worse than homosexuality or maybe hand in hand with it if it be a man to look like this woman in detail which they can do when she "knocked out".
They can say they are heterosexual christians but that is crime to use education and contact network and pay people to get your sadist sex fantasises to live.
They have snuff movies where they torture and kill people and it makes them aroused watch.
They also have pedophile files and files of disabling people and aged care rape and all kinds horrid things that is not connected but thaaaaat is what arouses them.
"no fun if other party in on it"
They sell these movies for a lot of money and sometimes the one subjected does not know about it.
Dominate a body, take over a body.
Big males drugged and used.
Be suprised things heard happen.
Putting hamster a plastic roller in anus then a hamster in it and lighting a lighter so hamster got burnt.
Sexuality is ones own business?
Not when it becomes crime.
Like a sadist uses lust in work.
blabbering again
1 Corinthians 6:9-10, which reads as follows in the King James Version:
“Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived, neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, nor thieves . . . shall inherit the kingdom of God.”
The words sometimes translated "effeminate" and “homosexual” in these passages are obscure and difficult to translate. The first word identifies someone who is morally weak, and has nothing to do with nellie gay men. The second word probably means “people who use power to obtain sex,” though the word is so rare that a confident translation is impossible. Neither word refers specifically to gay men or lesbians.
Would Jesus Discriminate? - No fems? No fairies? (1 Corinthians 6:9-10 and 1 Timothy 1:10)
“Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived, neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, nor thieves . . . shall inherit the kingdom of God.”
The words sometimes translated "effeminate" and “homosexual” in these passages are obscure and difficult to translate. The first word identifies someone who is morally weak, and has nothing to do with nellie gay men. The second word probably means “people who use power to obtain sex,” though the word is so rare that a confident translation is impossible. Neither word refers specifically to gay men or lesbians.
Would Jesus Discriminate? - No fems? No fairies? (1 Corinthians 6:9-10 and 1 Timothy 1:10)
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AgapeSpiritEyes
Guest
Thank you precious brother RedTent, for all of us take heed to the words of Jesus:
Luke 11:35 Pay great attention to what I tell you about your affections and desires that start in the eyes of your soul. This place where you desire and want from the things you see in your mind. I will liken your soul eyes of your mind to light. Light will enter the ideas by the thoughts and desires of your soul the things you think and desire and want. If you think desire and want the fleshes signals and the pleasures of these within your thoughts which bring more thoughts and images to your soul then only darkness and evil stream into your spirit. Be careful to what images you allow and receive in your mind because it goes straight to your spirit. If your spirit is full of darkness then what real light do you have guiding you, nothing but darkness. If you have a single eye in your soul by thinking, remembering with the images given to you by the Holy Spirit of what I have said with and about God your Father and I in your thoughts and desires then you will be full of light and be able to see and feel my brightness and glory and love all that is good and eternal life for you.
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AgeofKnowledge
Guest
You're making a false assertion here that I'm dodging your questions EVEN AFTER I TOLD YOU THAT I HAD ALREADY ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION AND REFERRED YOU TO THE SEARCH FIELD TO FIND THE ANSWER.
Now I told you I have family over and I have to tend to them today. I don't have time for your antics. The tools to find my answers are at your disposal. You can use them or you can continue to act like an uneducated idiot rambling false allegations and nonsense as is your habit apparently. The choice, as always, is your own.
Now I told you I have family over and I have to tend to them today. I don't have time for your antics. The tools to find my answers are at your disposal. You can use them or you can continue to act like an uneducated idiot rambling false allegations and nonsense as is your habit apparently. The choice, as always, is your own.