Is The Mosaic Law Beneficial For Those Who Have Faith?

unclefester · Jul 17, 2013

Acts Chapter 15

[SUP]1[/SUP] And certain men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, [and said], Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved.
[SUP]2[/SUP] When therefore Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension and disputation with them, they determined that Paul and Barnabas, and certain other of them, should go up to Jerusalem unto the apostles and elders about this question.
[SUP]3[/SUP] And being brought on their way by the church, they passed through Phenice and Samaria, declaring the conversion of the Gentiles: and they caused great joy unto all the brethren.
[SUP]4[/SUP] And when they were come to Jerusalem, they were received of the church, and [of] the apostles and elders, and they declared all things that God had done with them.
[SUP]5[/SUP] But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command [them] to keep the law of Moses.
[SUP]6[/SUP] And the apostles and elders came together for to consider of this matter.
[SUP]7[/SUP] And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men [and] brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made a choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.
[SUP]8[/SUP] And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as [he did] unto us;
[SUP]9[/SUP] And put no difference between us and them,purifying their hearts by faith.
[SUP]10[/SUP] Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?
[SUP]11[/SUP] But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.
[SUP]12[/SUP] Then all the multitude kept silence, and gave audience to Barnabas and Paul, declaring what miracles and wonders God had wrought among the Gentiles by them.
[SUP]13[/SUP] And after they had held their peace, James answered, saying, Men [and] brethren, hearken unto me:
[SUP]14[/SUP] Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name.
[SUP]15[/SUP] And to this agree the words of the prophets; as it is written,
[SUP]16[/SUP] After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up:
[SUP]17[/SUP] That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things.
[SUP]18[/SUP] Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world.
[SUP]19[/SUP]Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God:
[SUP]20[/SUP] But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and [from] fornication, and [from] things strangled, and [from] blood.
[SUP]21[/SUP] For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.
[SUP]22[/SUP] Then pleased it the apostles and elders, with the whole church, to send chosen men of their own company to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas; [namely], Judas surnamed Barsabas, and Silas, chief men among the brethren:
[SUP]23[/SUP] And they wrote [letters] by them after this manner; The apostles and elders and brethren [send] greeting unto the brethren which are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia:
[SUP]24[/SUP]Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, [Ye must] be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no [such] commandment:
[SUP]25[/SUP] It seemed good unto us, being assembled with one accord, to send chosen men unto you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul,
[SUP]26[/SUP]Men that have hazarded their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.
[SUP]27[/SUP] We have sent therefore Judas and Silas, who shall also tell [you] the same things by mouth.
[SUP]28[/SUP] For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things;
[SUP]29[/SUP] That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.
[SUP]30[/SUP] So when they were dismissed, they came to Antioch: and when they had gathered the multitude together, they delivered the epistle:
[SUP]31[/SUP] [Which] when they had read, they rejoiced for the consolation.
[SUP]32[/SUP] And Judas and Silas, being prophets also themselves, exhorted the brethren with many words, and confirmed [them].
[SUP]33[/SUP] And after they had tarried [there] a space, they were let go in peace from the brethren unto the apostles.
[SUP]34[/SUP] Notwithstanding it pleased Silas to abide there still.
[SUP]35[/SUP] Paul also and Barnabas continued in Antioch, teaching and preaching the word of the Lord, with many others also.
[SUP]36[/SUP] And some days after Paul said unto Barnabas, Let us go again and visit our brethren in every city where we have preached the word of the Lord, [and see] how they do.
[SUP]37[/SUP] And Barnabas determined to take with them John, whose surname was Mark.
[SUP]38[/SUP] But Paul thought not good to take him with them, who departed from them from Pamphylia, and went not with them to the work.
[SUP]39[/SUP] And the contention was so sharp between them, that they departed asunder one from the other: and so Barnabas took Mark, and sailed unto Cyprus;
[SUP]40[/SUP] And Paul chose Silas, and departed, being recommended by the brethren unto the grace of God.
[SUP]41[/SUP] And he went through Syria and Cilicia, confirming the churches.

just-me · Jul 17, 2013

homwardbound said:

Great!! And the Colossians scripture you posted reminded me of another one in the same book.

Colossians 1:12-18 (KJV)
[SUP]12 [/SUP]Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:
[SUP]13 [/SUP]Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
[SUP]14 [/SUP]In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:
[SUP]15 [/SUP]Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
[SUP]16 [/SUP]For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
[SUP]17 [/SUP]And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
[SUP]18 [/SUP]And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.

I see something here that might interest others as well as it interests me. Jesus being the creator of all things obviously created everything, from the beginning of time, clear through to the New Testament. I think that Jesus gave the law to Moses. what do you think about that?

John 17:4-5 (KJV)
[SUP]4 [/SUP]I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

WomanLovesTX · Jul 17, 2013

Hebrews 10:26 "for if we sin WIllfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins.

I John 3:4 "whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

Romans 3:24-26 "being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: whom God has set forth to be a propitation through faith in His blood, to declare His righteousness for the remission of sins that are PAST, through the forbearance of God; to declare, I say, at this time His righteousness: that He might be just, and the justified of him which believeth in Jesus.

If we believe the plain and simple (a child can understand) words of the NT scriptures, how can one deny the commandments in the Torah have ceased?

john832 · Jul 17, 2013

WomanLovesTX said:

I've posted this several times but anyhoo, here we go again...

Heb 8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
Heb 8:9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
Heb 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
Heb 8:11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.

This is a direct quote from Jer 31:31-34...

Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

And the word for Law in verse 33 is...

H8451
תּרה תּורה
tôrâh tôrâh
to-raw', to-raw'
From H3384; a precept or statute, especially the Decalogue or Pentateuch: - law.

So we see that the New Covenant is the writing of the Torah in our hearts and minds.

WomanLovesTX · Jul 17, 2013

john832 said:

I've posted this several times but anyhoo, here we go again...

Heb 8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
Heb 8:9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
Heb 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
Heb 8:11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.

This is a direct quote from Jer 31:31-34...

Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

And the word for Law in verse 33 is...

H8451
תּרה תּורה
tôrâh tôrâh
to-raw', to-raw'
From H3384; a precept or statute, especially the Decalogue or Pentateuch: - law.

So we see that the New Covenant is the writing of the Torah in our hearts and minds.

This is what I have also learned by the Holy Spirit. Thank you for posting again.

eternally-gratefull · Jul 17, 2013

WomanLovesTX said:

Hebrews 10:26 "for if we sin WIllfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins.

I John 3:4 "whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

Romans 3:24-26 "being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: whom God has set forth to be a propitation through faith in His blood, to declare His righteousness for the remission of sins that are PAST, through the forbearance of God; to declare, I say, at this time His righteousness: that He might be just, and the justified of him which believeth in Jesus.

If we believe the plain and simple (a child can understand) words of the NT scriptures, how can one deny the commandments in the Torah have ceased?

You don't get it.

They STILL condemn. Thats all they could do is condemn, Because WE CAN"T FULFILL THE JUST REQUIREMENT OF THE LAW.

what ceased, is their power over us, to condemn us..

john832 · Jul 17, 2013

eternally-gratefull said:

So whatever you do don't try to keep them?

WomanLovesTX · Jul 17, 2013

eternally-gratefull said:

Obedience to Torah is blessings. Disobedience is curses. If the law is condemning you, and you feel it is burdensome, then you haven't yoked yourself with Christ, for He says His commandments are not grievous. Jesus is the author of the Word.

eternally-gratefull · Jul 17, 2013

WomanLovesTX said:

If your not a child of God, you can obey till your blue in the face, It will not help you. In fact, according to God it is like giving him bloody rags, It means nothing to him.

You better feel its burden, And have it lead you to Christ and his sacrifice, because without trusting in His death, the law is useless to you. it will only condemn you.

unclefester · Jul 17, 2013

john832 said:

WomanLovesTX said:

No you didn't. And neither did john832. Please read this chapter again in full. Please

Hebrews 8

The High Priest of a New Covenant

8 Now the main point of what we are saying is this: We do have such a high priest, who sat down at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in heaven,[SUP]2 [/SUP]and who serves in the sanctuary, the true tabernacle set up by the Lord, not by a mere human being.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Every high priest is appointed to offer both gifts and sacrifices, and so it was necessary for this one also to have something to offer. [SUP]4 [/SUP]If he were on earth, he would not be a priest, for there are already priests who offer the gifts prescribed by the law. [SUP]5 [/SUP]They serve at a sanctuary that is a copy and shadow of what is in heaven. This is why Moses was warned when he was about to build the tabernacle: “See to it that you make everything according to the pattern shown you on the mountain.”[SUP][a][/SUP] [SUP]6[/SUP]But in fact the ministry Jesus has received is as superior to theirs as the covenant of which he is mediator is superior to the old one, since the new covenant is established on better promises.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]For if there had been nothing wrong with that first covenant, no place would have been sought for another. [SUP]8 [/SUP]But God found fault with the people and said[SUP][b][/SUP]:
“The days are coming, declares the Lord,
when I will make a new covenant
with the people of Israel
and with the people of Judah.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]It will not be like the covenant
I made with their ancestors
when I took them by the hand
to lead them out of Egypt,
because they did not remain faithful to my covenant,
and I turned away from them,
declares the Lord.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]This is the covenant I will establish with the people of Israel
after that time, declares the Lord.
I will put my laws in their minds
and write them on their hearts.
I will be their God,
and they will be my people.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]No longer will they teach their neighbor,
or say to one another, ‘Know the Lord,’
because they will all know me,
from the least of them to the greatest.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]For I will forgive their wickedness
and will remember their sins no more.”[SUP][c][/SUP]

[SUP]13[/SUP]By calling this covenant “new,” he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear.

eternally-gratefull · Jul 17, 2013

john832 said:

What does this have to do with being perfect? the laws purpose is to show us we can not get to God of our own accord.. I take it it has not done this for you?

I obey Gods laws by looking at the spirit of the law. (the reason behind it) not the letter.

the letter condemns. Period!

eternally-gratefull · Jul 17, 2013

unclefester said:

No you didn't. And neither did john832. Please read this chapter again in full. Please

Hebrews 8

The High Priest of a New Covenant

8 Now the main point of what we are saying is this: We do have such a high priest, who sat down at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in heaven,[SUP]2 [/SUP]and who serves in the sanctuary, the true tabernacle set up by the Lord, not by a mere human being.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Every high priest is appointed to offer both gifts and sacrifices, and so it was necessary for this one also to have something to offer. [SUP]4 [/SUP]If he were on earth, he would not be a priest, for there are already priests who offer the gifts prescribed by the law. [SUP]5 [/SUP]They serve at a sanctuary that is a copy and shadow of what is in heaven. This is why Moses was warned when he was about to build the tabernacle: “See to it that you make everything according to the pattern shown you on the mountain.”[SUP][a][/SUP] [SUP]6[/SUP]But in fact the ministry Jesus has received is as superior to theirs as the covenant of which he is mediator is superior to the old one, since the new covenant is established on better promises.
[SUP]7[/SUP]For if there had been nothing wrong with that first covenant, no place would have been sought for another. [SUP]8 [/SUP]But God found fault with the people and said[SUP][b][/SUP]:
“The days are coming, declares the Lord,
when I will make a new covenant
with the people of Israel
and with the people of Judah.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]It will not be like the covenant
I made with their ancestors
when I took them by the hand
to lead them out of Egypt,
because they did not remain faithful to my covenant,
and I turned away from them,
declares the Lord.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]This is the covenant I will establish with the people of Israel
after that time, declares the Lord.
I will put my laws in their minds
and write them on their hearts.
I will be their God,
and they will be my people.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]No longer will they teach their neighbor,
or say to one another, ‘Know the Lord,’
because they will all know me,
from the least of them to the greatest.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]For I will forgive their wickedness
and will remember their sins no more.”[SUP][c][/SUP]

[SUP]13[/SUP]By calling this covenant “new,” he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear.

Some people like to go back to what is obsolite, and was supposed to dissapear with the city of Jerusalem in AD 70

WomanLovesTX · Jul 17, 2013

eternally-gratefull said:

If your not a child of God, you can obey till your blue in the face, It will not help you. In fact, according to God it is like giving him bloody rags, It means nothing to him.

You better feel its burden, And have it lead you to Christ and his sacrifice, because without trusting in His death, the law is useless to you. it will only condemn you.

Well said. I agree.

seed_time_harvest · Jul 17, 2013

Hello just-me

Of course it is. Those of us who have faith and the love of God spread abroad in our hearts by the Holy Spirit, want the lost to understand why they need salvation through Jesus Christ. By understanding the spiritual principles of the law we can minister using this schoolmaster God gave to the faithful. By continuing to study this tool we can be an effective witness to the lost. We know that God gives to us what is perfect because He is perfect and to minister by any other avenue is a mistake. We are not to minister using the law relating it with fleshly interpretations of condemnation only. We are to minister in the spiritual realm via this God-given schoolmaster.

i see what you mean.its true. seems like we prefer things we can see,taste,hear,smell or feel(the five senses).rather than just taking the bible and believing it.

just-me · Jul 17, 2013

eternally-gratefull said:

Disappear? WOW! Why do you think God has preserved the Bible as it is today? Just to antagonize us? I agree with most of what you endorse, but this one I have to take exception to, unless I misunderstood what you are saying here. Do you mean the works of the law without the Spirit, sincerity, or the devotion in truth?
Matthew 5:17-20 (KJV)
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
[SUP]18 [/SUP]For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
[SUP]19 [/SUP]Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
[SUP]20 [/SUP]For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

John 5:44-47 (KJV)
[SUP]44 [/SUP]How can ye believe, which receive honour one of another, and seek not the honour that cometh from God only?
[SUP]45 [/SUP]Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust.
[SUP]46 [/SUP]For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.
[SUP]47 [/SUP]But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?
Psalm 1:1-2 (KJV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP]Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.

eternally-gratefull · Jul 17, 2013

just-me said:

What it means is ALL of the ritual and feasts of the OT were fulfilled in Jesus.

Yes, we READ and study them, to see how they point to Christ. But DOING them as they did in the OT as many are saying we should do has no value.. We HAVE the fulfillment in Christ. He gave US things to do. lets study them, Do these. and seek a relationship with God based on a personal basis, not some religious basis.

just-me · Jul 17, 2013

eternally-gratefull said:

I think that we would all agree that Jesus fulfilled the Levitical law in completion. Nevertheless (which I have mentioned before) there are morals and requirements for us to observe if we love Christ, for in reality Christ Jesus gave the law to Moses. Can we keep them by our works with no faith? No we can't. But recognizing that fact, we can appreciate our Savior more and more, as we find out more ,and more how far we fall short according to the law given for all mankind. Not only that. If we look into the sacrificial part of the law, we know that God wants us to see the dynamics of Christ with admiration and awe. We can look into the "law of liberty" then and realize these three things. We are guilty of trespass even if we keep all the law perfectly except for one, then we are guilty of all. We then will suffer the wrath of God because of our infraction. We have only one escape and that is through sacrifice ordained by God Himself. If we didn't have that knowledge from the old testament i.e. numerous covenants described in the old; number 1, we wouldn't appreciate it, and we wouldn't see any need to be saved, and number 2, there would be nothing for Jesus to complete because the old would be all gone, never to be remembered, but only forgotten.

James 1:25 (KJV)
[SUP]25 [/SUP]But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.

James 2:11-12 (KJV)
[SUP]11 [/SUP]For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.

eternally-gratefull · Jul 17, 2013

just-me said:

1 We know morals without the law. They are written in our hearts. It is how those before the law was given knew between right and wrong. The written morals condemn us. they do not help us other then to remind us of how guilty we are. (romans 1)

2. However, we are speaking of all the ceremonies and feasts. which have nothing to do with commands to us.

finally. As I said before, be careful using the words like "must" and "requirements" for when you use these words. In reality, you are saying they must be done or else ( we will lose, or not get salvation) maybe try to use different word choices?

WomanLovesTX · Jul 17, 2013

eternally-gratefull said:

All of the feasts have not been fulfilled by Christ. Christ fulfilled 100% the Spring Feasts (Passover, Feast of Unleavened Bread, Firstfruits/Feast of weeks and Pentecost/Shavuot.) The three remaining feasts which occur in the Fall have not yet been fulfilled by Christ, but He will fulfill these also 100%!!

Which "rituals" are you saying Christ fulfilled? The sacrifices of burnt offerings, sacrifice of peace offering, sacrifice of thanksgiving, sacrifice voluntary offering, sacrifice of sin offering?
Lev 23:37 These are the feasts of the LORD, which ye shall proclaim to be holy convocations, to offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD, a burnt offering, and a meat offering, a sacrifice, and drink offerings, every thing upon his day:
Lev 23:38 Beside the sabbaths of the LORD, and beside your gifts, and beside all your vows, and beside all your freewill offerings, which ye give unto the LORD.

And in the millenium we see what is known as Ezekiel Temple where sacrifices and offerings are made again (this is future).

Ezekiel 40-48

Eze 40:39 And in the porch of the gate were two tables on this side, and two tables on that side, to slay thereon the burnt offering and the sin offering and the trespass offering.

Why does Christ have an earthly temple and offerings made in the millenium?

And why does Zechariah prophecy? Zec 14:17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.

Not all of the OT is obsolete. Actually, if your spiritual eyes were opened you would know that none of the OT is obsolete. Unless you want to argue semantics like the House of Israel was divorced by God, and they became "not His people" until Christ came and we are saved not just by his death, but even more so by His LIFE.

Jesus will return and fulfill the Fall Feasts of Yahweh/LORD. If you opt out of being obedient to the command Deu 7:9 Know therefore that the LORD thy God, he is God, the faithful God, which keepeth covenant and mercy with them that love him and keep his commandments to a thousand generations;

Remember who you are in Christ. We are not separate from the children of Israel, we are the children of Israel!!!!

These words are so beautiful.

Eph 2:1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;
Eph 2:2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
Eph 2:3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
Eph 2:4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,
Eph 2:5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved

Eph 2:6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:
Eph 2:7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.
Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Eph 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
Eph 2:11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;
Eph 2:12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
Eph 2:13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
Eph 2:14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
Eph 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
Eph 2:16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:
Eph 2:17 And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.
Eph 2:18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.
Eph 2:19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
Eph 2:20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;
Eph 2:21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:
Eph 2:22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.

Do you have eyes to see and ears to hear. If you do, then all of Christ's parables should make total sense about the Kingdom of God/Heaven that is coming to planet Earth with Jesus Christ as King of kings and Lord of lords.

We have this blessed hope only because of the work of Jesus Christ/Yeshua. There is no dispensation saying that the Old Testament was for the children of Israel and that the New Testament is for the church/ekklesia/assembly.

There is no Jew or Greek, male or female, etc. we are all one in Christ Jesus.

Therefore, leave off your prejudice that the Old Testament is obsolete, because it plainly is not.

Donald227 · Jul 17, 2013

and all of God's people said amen and amen. Nicely written

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