Citizens could shoot down drones: CO town says drones an act of war.

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“Fly in town, get shot down”: local drones seen as “act of war”




A whole host of jurisdictional battles could be on the horizon if Colorado town Deer Trail passes its proposed ordinance to issue hunting licenses for drones.


Citing its “sovereign airspace,” the proposal calls drone surveillance and “unlawful attack from a belligerent foreign power” and an “act of war.” In the name of “resistance to tyranny in support of the common defense,” it calls for the town to license residents to shoot down unmanned aerial vehicles under certain conditions, for the small fee of $25.




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There are some restrictions, however: drones may only be shot down using shotguns. Nothing with a rifled barrel is allowed. Also, applicants would have to be able to read and understand English.


ABC 7 Denver reports,


Deer Trail resident, Phillip Steel, drafted the ordinance.


“We do not want drones in town,” said Steel. “They fly in town, they get shot down.” . . .


According to the Electronic Frontier Foundation, “Congress passed a bill in February mandating the FAA must open national airspace to drones, despite the extensive and unprecedented civil liberties dangers they pose to every American. The FAA, in new rules announced on Monday, made the authorization procedure easier, stating they have ‘streamlined the process’ for ‘public agencies’—which includes local law enforcement—to legally operate drones in U.S. skies.”


Many local agencies already have. You can check EFF’s interactive map. Steel is one of the first to suggest the opposite: local government should not take handouts from the federal government to spy on their citizens, but rater should resist such intrusions on their behalf, and empower them to do so:


State and local governments throughout the country are talking about the fantastic possibilities using unmanned aerial vehicles. . . . It’s time to take a stand against becoming a surveillance society. . . .


Denver 7 quoted him as saying, “Basically, I do not believe in the idea of a surveillance society, and I believe we are heading that way.”


With the FAA estimating there will be 30,000 drones stalking Americans by 2020, the suspicion is not unwarranted.


Deer Trail mayor Frank Fields says he has not decided whether he supports the measure, though as a novelty and potential money-maker for the town, he says it would be fun to have a little “drone fest.”


The ordinance would provide awards for drones shot down: $25 up to $100 in some cases.


Honestly I think that even if the measure passes, it will get struck down by a higher court. Or, if a drone is shot down before then, there will be a federal lawsuit. After all, the FAA claims jurisdiction over all U.S. airspace. So, this could potentially become a major legal issue. We can hope it would anyway, and hope that local rights are upheld, and the surveillance state held in check as much as possible.


But the small town’s ordinance will face many obstacles, beginning, potentially, with the local sheriff. Steel and the mayor both note the ordinance could make the town a lot of money. That’s good. They’ll need it for all of the lawsuits that would likely follow.


But citizen pressure has resulted in changing local policy in the past. EFF notes that, “Shelby County Tennessee sheriff’s office requested two drones as part of a $400,000 Homeland Security grant, the Shelby county commission questioned the Sheriff’s Office on how they would be using the drone and asked them to draw up privacy guidelines. The sheriff’s office promptly withdrew its request for drones.”
 
great...now theyre gonna armor the darn things if we let em know our defense tactics

does anybody really think we spend thousands of dollars a year practicing on clay pigeons with shot ...
just to shoot a few birds you could go buy at the store for a few bucks? :rolleyes:
 
wow...that's an interesting article, Still.

what do americans in general think?

course we only have shovels and picks up here....but drones certainly are being used on'against US citizenry.
and they are armed.
stupid Rubicon.
 
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It could be a tactic to instigate by sending the unmanned drones in first, then a means to arrest for destroying govt property.
Theyre trying to start the fire, not us, and the bad part is that they know exactly what theyre doing and whats gonna happen by doing so.
Then again I may be just a run of the mill paranoid conspiracy theorist
 
It could be a tactic to instigate by sending the unmanned drones in first, then a means to arrest for destroying govt property.
Theyre trying to start the fire, not us, and the bad part is that they know exactly what theyre doing and whats gonna happen by doing so.
Then again I may be just a run of the mill paranoid conspiracy theorist

well, i don't think it's a ploy to instigate.
they plan to have your (ours too?) skies filled with armed drones.
i have absolutely no doubt they're already armed.

it's Minority Report on steroids.

....

Thursday, March 14th, 2013 | Posted by Gordon Duff
Drone Nightmare, the Unseen Threat

Today the Middle East and much of Africa are subject to attacks by American drones. As horrific as the drone threat may be seen today or even feared for tomorrow, the truth if far worse than ever imagined.

Drones of unimagined capability are being readied for deployment with even more frightening technical advances on the drawing boards. The drones we are seeing today, even the advanced RQ 170 Lockheed Sentinel captured by Iran in 2011, are child’s play.

However, few in either Iraq or Afghanistan would venture forth unarmed and peaceful tribesmen or even militia members aligned with the US became targets.

The result has been an admitted 10 to 1 ratio between “dead militants” and “collateral damage.”

From there, drones were quickly tasked for the purpose they have become so infamous for today, targeted killings, using area munitions and questionable intelligence.

Americans are now told that drones are going to be used within the United States. The “camel in the tent” for domestic drones involved promises that they would only be used to secure borders. That story was quickly forgotten

Since the passage of the Patriot Acts in 2002, along with FISA and the NDAA provisions, at one time or another, any American might qualify under Holder’s definitions.

800px-Group_photo_of_aerial_demonstrators_at_the_2005_Naval_Unmanned_Aerial_Vehicle_Air_Demo-e1363315485357-320x162.jpg


police drones

In fact, recent proposed legislation recognizing “extremists” from, not just the “left and right” but, in particular veterans or anyone subject to employment related stress, is not only possibly subject to limitations of their rights without due process but may well be targeted as a national security threat.

Drone Nightmare, the Unseen Threat | Veterans Today

sigh.
 
well, i don't think it's a ploy to instigate.
they plan to have your (ours too?) skies filled with armed drones.
i have absolutely no doubt they're already armed.

it's Minority Report on steroids.

....

Thursday, March 14th, 2013 | Posted by Gordon Duff
Drone Nightmare, the Unseen Threat

Today the Middle East and much of Africa are subject to attacks by American drones. As horrific as the drone threat may be seen today or even feared for tomorrow, the truth if far worse than ever imagined.

Drones of unimagined capability are being readied for deployment with even more frightening technical advances on the drawing boards. The drones we are seeing today, even the advanced RQ 170 Lockheed Sentinel captured by Iran in 2011, are child’s play.

However, few in either Iraq or Afghanistan would venture forth unarmed and peaceful tribesmen or even militia members aligned with the US became targets.

The result has been an admitted 10 to 1 ratio between “dead militants” and “collateral damage.”

From there, drones were quickly tasked for the purpose they have become so infamous for today, targeted killings, using area munitions and questionable intelligence.

Americans are now told that drones are going to be used within the United States. The “camel in the tent” for domestic drones involved promises that they would only be used to secure borders. That story was quickly forgotten

Since the passage of the Patriot Acts in 2002, along with FISA and the NDAA provisions, at one time or another, any American might qualify under Holder’s definitions.

800px-Group_photo_of_aerial_demonstrators_at_the_2005_Naval_Unmanned_Aerial_Vehicle_Air_Demo-e1363315485357-320x162.jpg


police drones

In fact, recent proposed legislation recognizing “extremists” from, not just the “left and right” but, in particular veterans or anyone subject to employment related stress, is not only possibly subject to limitations of their rights without due process but may well be targeted as a national security threat.

Drone Nightmare, the Unseen Threat | Veterans Today

sigh.
Reptilians are workin overtime in their sweatshops in order to manufacture drones for the coming takeover from Lesotho.
 
well, i don't think it's a ploy to instigate.
they plan to have your (ours too?) skies filled with armed drones.
i have absolutely no doubt they're already armed.

sigh.

Almost like.......stinging locusts?