gay christian seeking advice

[Shiloah]

If being gay was wrong why would god give you these feelings? Jesus main message was love , love is love who cares who it's between it's sad when ur own people don't believe what you are xx

God did not make you gay nor did He give you "gay feelings". This is a result of the fall. Yes of course He loves you. We're all sinners saved by grace. But He told us to go and sin no more. Homosexuality is a sin like any other sin. And again, we confess our sins to Him, He forgives us and then tells us to go and sin no more. But you MUST recognize your sin as sin or you will never turn from it.

You have to go with what scriptures say about homosexuality or you might as well just join another religion that says what you want to hear. But you can't MAKE the Bible say what you want it to say. It says what it says about Homosexuality. It says that homosexuality is an abomination before the Lord. It is what it is. What I don't get is people who want to be Christians but apparently refuse to believe God really said what He said. They just try to twist Christianity into what they want. That's just a pretend religion having nothing to do with the true God.

 

[imminentCataclysm]

Welcome to CC, I hope that you can find peace in an environment that will not bully you. If you would like some advice, I'd be happy to talk to you via private messages c:.

 

[Shiloah]

you can be born again and be gay. And to say to be born again christian you have to live christian ways, is true, but noone is perfect, we are sinners, not some pure being.

But if you are truly born again, you will turn from your sins. If you continue in sin, then you are not born again. Hence, you cannot continue to practice homosexuality and be truly saved because obviously you have not and have no intention of turning from sin.

For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error. (Romans 1:26-27 ESV)

Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God. (1 Corinthians 6:9-11 ESV)

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

People fornicate, engage in adultery, engage in homosexual sex acts, live like hell on earth, and then wonder why they don't have the peace of God and genuine Christians don't want to hang out with them.

A good place to start is by not parading your sin in front of genuine Christians.

I realize your worldly friends who engage in the same immoral activities as you do told you to "come out" and be proud of your sexual immorality but they gave you some eternally bad advice.

Genuine Christians are busy following God who gave them a new nature. As a result, they do not live the rest of their earthly lives for evil human desires, but rather for the will of God having spent enough time living in sensuality, lusts, drunkenness, carousing, drinking parties and idolatry before their conversion.

 

[Share55]

Very interesting responses.

It is well to want to follow God but it is like when you first come to Christ you seek His forgiveness for you sins it isn't an option because to receive we must give; eye for an eye.
Homosexuality is clearly laid out in the Bible those caught up in the love of sin shall lust man for man. I stay with the KJV Bible because I have found that the new translations all have something missing or twisted in them. God's Word is relevant yesterday, today and tomorrow and has not nor will not change.

I agree with paulguyer's post and I must point out, I have no problem with the person but with what they choose to do which is sinful but it is not for me to judge. You can seek God all you want but if you continue to lie to yourself then there is no redemption.
The Bible says that if a man is corrected in his sin but receives it not then we are absolved of our duty and he shall face the judgment day.

Remember, God says that we should reproof a sinner with love lest someday we slip and need this sinners understanding.
We should let our love light shine as Jesus did so that we are a mirror of Him unto others in need of Him.

 

[ineme4christ]

There is no such thing as a gay christian, that is a complete oxymoron, I think you mean you're a christian who struggles with homosexuality.

I really like what this person wrote pls there is no such thing as gay christian pls read your bible and see such word doesn't exist .
But as loving christian Jesus taught us how to love but at the same time teach n correct .usint the word of God.
we are glad you are fellowshipping with us.we do not hate you but the act itself just as much I hate fornication. Adultery. All sin are abominable. In the sight of God
I pray that God's word will find expression in our lives

 

[Friendly_Canadian]

You are right ineme4christ, it's the plain and simple truth, man seems to mess up the often simple plain teaching. Love is the theme, justice is the end result.. and that should be scary for those that don't repent.

 

[pastac]

Let me first say I understand all positions but as a believer in the scriptures it is clear gay and christian are like oil and water they just dont mix well. Loving the Lord is different than being gay. We sin by choice and that is a proven fact. We can't just write a bible that fits our personal agenda whatever it may be. I believe God can deliver you from ANY situation but you have to want to be delievered!As for being accepted you can be loved as a person and prayed fro by christians who DO NOT HAVE TO ACCEPT YOUR LIFE STYLE CHOICE if you want the facts God dosen't accept sin in whatever form it comes in. One sin is no different in his eyes. Sin is sin and the wages of sin is death both spiritually and in some instances literally. As far as your family they feel like they feel for whatever reasons all that can be done about that is real prayer. My word teaces me to let the wheat and the tare grow together and God will do theseperating. His word will show us the way and you to if you are sincere. Chatting with mature christians may give you other insightful ways to remedy your plight but ultimatly a change will have to take place to get the results that you seek what ever they may be. But if you are looking for acceptance then be prepared for people who believe that lifestyle is inconsistant wit any of the teachings of Jesus and we can't twist his words to make it be diferent.

 

[TrustInJesus]

Keep your faith in the Lord and not in what creates temporary false happiness.

 

[AslanII]

But if you are truly born again, you will turn from your sins. If you continue in sin, then you are not born again. Hence, you cannot continue to practice homosexuality and be truly saved because obviously you have not and have no intention of turning from sin.

For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error. (Romans 1:26-27 ESV)

Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God. (1 Corinthians 6:9-11 ESV)

Wow... I REALLY hope you are completely without sin....

 

[AslanII]

Hey there

Welcome! I am not going to try to give you advice, because I am not in your shoes. I know you being gay is probably like this mountain before you that you can't overcome, and maybe you feel that you are struggling so much that you can't have the relationship with God that you want. I just want you to know that running TOWARDS God is the right direction, not away from Him. He does His work in us. I am not without sin and I can not judge you. God wants us to make sin our enemy and for us to fight against it, but in the meantime, our focus should be a relationship with Him, and just getting to know Him. I hope you can do that

 

[pastac]

Very mature reply makes me honored to be on a site that has that type of maturity.

 

[RoboOp]

"Homosexuals (and adulterers, fornicators, etc.) shall not inherit the kingdom of God."

This is a truth that we shouldn't deny.

The same passage goes on to say:

"And such were some of you........."

Notice, "were" -- PAST TENSE.

and "but you were washed.......".

Okay so using scripture as our standard and foundation, we need to distinguish between two types of people:

1. So-called "gay Christians" who deny the above fundamental truth of scripture and say that homosexuality is not sin. That is heresy and should not be tolerated. It is not "hate" for Christians to stand firm on the Bible especially when society and so-called "Christians" are trying to change it and pervert it.

2. Christians (or people who want to be Christians) who are struggling with gay feelings or temptations, who recognize that the act of homosexuality is indeed sin and who don't try to change and pervert the Bible -- people who want to be free of that sin. For such persons, just as God gives us power to walk free of heterosexual adultery and fornication, the same God can and will give power (to anyone who seeks it) to be free of homosexual sin (the act). I say "the act" because I don't want to judge anyone for being honest about feelings, temptations, etc., that they may struggle with for whatever reason (e.g., a past homosexual lifestyle or whatever).

God has called on mankind to repent.

Homosexuality should not be tolerated as an acceptable lifestyle for Christians anymore than a lifestyle of cheating on one's wife or husband. Likewise, there is forgiveness, freedom, and salvation available for anyone who wants to repent of their sinful lifestyle and live for Him.

 

[Ugly]

This thread is 9 months old and the OP hasn't come back on since the day they posted this.

 

[TrustInJesus]

This thread is 9 months old and the OP hasn't come back on since the day they posted this.

Hey, never give up hope. We should pray that this user, be it here or anywhere else, can learn the truth before its too late.

 

[Mammachickadee]

Keep your faith in the Lord and not in what creates temporary false happiness.

Exactly. One can say "Gay Christian is an oxymoron" and miss a little bit of fact... that the Christian walk is one of continual repentance (not for salvation but for the health of one's relationship with their heavenly Father).
Define gay: There is, to begin with, "gay" as in happy. Since we are supposed to find joy in our salvation, "gay Christian" isn't such an oxymoron after all. Yes, I'm splitting hairs a bit... but to hold an undefined argument is like trying to make it to home base without first touching 1st.
Define gay: There is also the colloquial "that's gay", meaning "that is a bit ridiculous, but what are ya gonna do about it". In this case there's a big huge thing called "grey area" that most Christians are quite gay in.
Define gay: Then there is what we all have an understanding of... "gay" referring to ones sexual mentality/orientation. Can there be such a thing as a "Christian" (little Christ) who is "gay" (mentally or sexually oriented to one of the same sex)? Actually, yes. Quite easily. It's called abstinence. From a biblical perspective actively practicing homosexuality is repugnant, but what about the man who loves God and is called, according to the Scriptures, who still has to deal with the sexual desire for the same sex as his thorn in the flesh? In this case one truly can be a "gay" Christian... just not a practicing homosexual. No one knows WHY some believers have carnal sexual desires that don't fall under the biblically permissible (be it homosexuality or simple promiscuous desires)... but we all know where sin came from (and NONE of us are void of susceptibility no matter how spiritually mature we become). … Romans 7:18-20 says "18For I know that nothing good dwells in me, that is, in my flesh; for the willing is present in me, but the doing of the good is not. 19For the good that I want, I do not do, but I practice the very evil that I do not want. 20But if I am doing the very thing I do not want, I am no longer the one doing it, but sin which dwells in me.…".

 

[Mammachickadee]

I am a christian , let me state that first. But i am also gay. I would like advice/ spiritual and maybe acceptance. I speak on behalf of every gay christian who is scared to announce this to their loved ones for fear of being banished from their lives

No judgement here... merely a level of commiseration over an internal desire for sexual sin fought in the heart and mind. Some believers who deal with other types of habitual sin different from ours sometimes see sexual sin as the biggest and most obvious no in the book... like coming to Christ was supposed to automatically give us a new brain and body when our old heart was crucified and replaced with the mind of Christ. The Bible points out in 1 Cor. 2:15-16, "But he who is spiritual appraises all things, yet he himself is appraised by no one, For WHO HAS KNOWN THE MIND OF THE LORD, THAT HE WILL INSTRUCT HIM? But we have the mind of Christ." Loosely translated, "A believer needs to compare themselves to the holiness of Christ and not to what other people's opinion of him is." NEVER, EVER, EVER follow someone else's convictions about your life unless that is your biblical obligation (in the case of being a child or when not doing so would cause an unnecessary rift with a brother).
So when you are having a difficult day, EyesOfWonder, and find it especially difficult to reign in your internal war, just sit down and find a quiet place from some Psalms for the sake of spiritual edification. Nothing like reading some praises and sorrows God inspired David and others to pen when needing your wellspring to get unmucked of unbiblical sexual desires. If David was able to still repent and find joy in the Lord after everything he went through, so can we as believers when we INVARIABLY start to desire forbidden fruit.
Though many believers would exhort you to treat homosexuality like a piranha-to be slaughtered and cast away-sometimes the Devil will use the FACT that the desire still exists in spite of your desire to be rid of it. The Devil loves to do that with every believer: plague them with insecurity and guilt because of their seeming inability to quench the very desire running through their all-too-human body and mind. Are we to turn away from wrong sexual desires? Of course! But don't beat yourself up for still having the desire. Address the desire with a healthy dose of "the mind of Christ"... that little idea called a "measure of faith" in the Bible. Some day, Lord willing, God will take away that thorn in the flesh. In the mean time, just obey the Lord's instruction not to fall into temptation and glory in the hope that is within you until the glorious appearing of our Lord.

 

[Mammachickadee]

The word of God (kjv Bible) is very clear on this. Repent of the sin of sodomy and turn away after all a true Christian will live to please God. Sorry no room for liberalism or pc.

might check what sodomy is before addressing this to a female.

 

[Mammachickadee]

The wise seek wisdom and correction. The fool seeks praise for ignorance. You want acceptance bit I wonder are you accepting of someone who doesnt accept your position. You dont want unity you want uniformity. You are not seeking truth you are seeking comfort. I hope you dont find that here. I would rather you find truth than comfort. The truth hurts but deception kills.

Might I exhort you not to judge something that you don't KNOW without ALL the facts. The OP has yet to deserve this specific criticism as she has yet to openly refute instruction; push for homosexual acceptance; or mock biblical instruction. (saying this from my current knowledge of the thread which is one page short of complete at the moment).

 

[Mammachickadee]

Postscript on my first post:
I said "there's a grey area that most Christians are quite gay it." I was not saying that all grey areas are ridiculous. I personally believe that not everything in the Christian walk is perfectly delineated for a believer (such as job in the secular workplace; classical music which is, as a genre, secular; etc.) There are some things, however, in churches and for individual believers that I was referring to... especially when one uses "Christian" as loosely as churches and the world use it today.