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It comes down to if we follow Justin, Origen and Constantine or we follow God and Christ. Scripture or tradition? Propaganda or God?
 
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If you know the bible you would know the jews killed many prophets, and Christ knew his own people were going to set him up. Not all the Jews rejected Christ after all the disciple who were all jews and were called christains first Antioch. Those people in Israel today who call themselves Jew-ISH and say Christ was a bastard and his mother a whore and is burning in hell in hot feces are not the people of the bible and that is easy to prove historically and biblically. I can show you out of the bible verse for verse process of elimination through prophecy who is Israel according to bloodline
your not seeing the point of this, the fact that jews REJECT jesus and still KEEP THE SABBATH, doesnt that tell you something? and this had to happen so we the GENTILES... 3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;[h=3]2 Timothy 4:3 if you want to continually be in bondage that is up to you.. but i know i accept my salvation by having faith in god and i will encourage whoever has ears to hear let them hear[/h]
 
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For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God,[h=3]Ephesians 2:8 But if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works; otherwise grace would no longer be grace. Romans 11:6 For sin will have no dominion over you, since you are not under law but under grace. Romans 6:14 Let us then with confidence draw near to the throne of grace, that we may receive mercy and find grace to help in time of need. Hebrews 4:16 For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people, Titus 2:11 But he gives more grace. Therefore it says, “God opposes the proud, but gives grace to the humble.” James 4:6 4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace. Galatians 5:4 so what are you under? grace or law you decide weather you wanna accept the truth of be bondage to a law [/h]
 
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your not seeing the point of this, the fact that jews REJECT jesus and still KEEP THE SABBATH, doesnt that tell you something? and this had to happen so we the GENTILES... 3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;[h=3]2 Timothy 4:3 if you want to continually be in bondage that is up to you.. but i know i accept my salvation by having faith in god and i will encourage whoever has ears to hear let them hear[/h]

What you have to understand is, is that the people in Israel today are not the people of the bible. They are not the people christ came to wash their sins, christ calls them synogogues of Satan. And not all the Jews rejected Christs the kingdom of heaven is for the twelve tribes of Israel after christ gathers them from all nations revelation 21 read it.

This is Paul speaking.

Romans 11:1I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.

2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel saying,
 
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josh123

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What you have to understand is, is that the people in Israel today are not the people of the bible. They are not the people christ came to wash their sins, christ calls them synogogues of Satan. And not all the Jews rejected Christs the kingdom of heaven is for the twelve tribes of Israel after christ gathers them from all nations revelation 21 read it.

This is Paul speaking.

Romans 11:1I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.

2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel saying,
stop trying to justify your actions, so who persecuted jesus when ?40 Then cried they all again, saying, Not this man, but Barabbas. Now Barabbas was a robber. so don't tell me people in israel today are not hte people of the bible
 

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stop trying to justify your actions, so who persecuted jesus when ?40 Then cried they all again, saying, Not this man, but Barabbas. Now Barabbas was a robber. so don't tell me people in israel today are not hte people of the bible
josh i think he's saying black africans are the true israel.
liberation theology thingee.
something to do with slavery.

could wrong on that but anyways....

hey! JOSH! maybe you're of Judah...or whatever

like the flesh profits something:rolleyes:
 
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stop trying to justify your actions, so who persecuted jesus when ?40 Then cried they all again, saying, Not this man, but Barabbas. Now Barabbas was a robber. so don't tell me people in israel today are not hte people of the bible
If you know your late history, you would know those gentiles went in the land of isael in 1948 under the UN an America. You gotta ask yourself where we're they before that.

They don't like Christ, they call him a bastard, And the majority of them practice the Babylonian Talmud that traces back to nimrod which is a satanic book.
This is what Christ said about them.

Revelation 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

Revelation 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

They are bunch of gentile Europeans and Arabs who got together in 1948 to make the states of Israel.
 
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If you know your late history, you would know those gentiles went in the land of isael in 1948 under the UN an America. You gotta ask yourself where we're they before that.

They don't like Christ, they call him a bastard, And the majority of them practice the Babylonian Talmud that traces back to nimrod which is a satanic book.
This is what Christ said about them.

Revelation 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

Revelation 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

They are bunch of gentile Europeans and Arabs who got together in 1948 to make the states of Israel.
i get what your saying with that some people went into israel and gave birth there but they are not the true jews.. anyone knows that but i was not talking about that i showed you the scripture to show you who i was talking about and when i was talking about these people read carefully
 

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What you gotta understand is, is that these churches the epistles were writing to Romans Ephesians, Philippians, ,Colossians, Thessalonians etc.. were all scattered Israelites who lived amongst the gentiles and didn't know they were Jews. lets prove that by going into the scriptures.

zechariah 1:19 And I said unto the angel that talked with me, What be these? And he answered me, These are the horns which have scattered Judah, Israel, and Jerusalem.

Matthew 26:31 Then saith Jesus unto them, All ye shall be offended because of me this night: for it is written, I will smite the shepherd, and the sheep of the flock shall be scattered abroad

James 1:1 James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.

The jews who were scattered into all nations were considered as gentiles or strangers because they didn't who they were and would take on the religions and customs of the heathen.

1 Peter 1:1Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia,

Ephessians 2:11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;[SUP]12[/SUP] That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:

1 Corinthians 12:2 Ye know that ye were Gentiles, carried away unto these dumb idols, even as ye were led.

do you see what I mean?
i see you mixing letters to gentiles and letters to jews - often they were combined messages.

look....please don't tell me the israelites in James' day didn't know who they were.
how would he know who to send the letters to? LOL.

let's say for the sake of argument your family goes waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back to an israelite clan.

SO WHAT.

does the flesh profit you something?

this is nuts.
 
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John 6:63 It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing.
 
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your not seeing the point of this, the fact that jews REJECT jesus and still KEEP THE SABBATH, doesnt that tell you something? and this had to happen so we the GENTILES... 3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;2 Timothy 4:3 if you want to continually be in bondage that is up to you.. but i know i accept my salvation by having faith in god and i will encourage whoever has ears to hear let them hear
Your reasoning is based on a logical fallacy. Because the Jews keep the sabbath yet reject Christ does not make keeping the sabbath wrong. It just makes keeping the law vain and its purpose void in the case of those that reject Christ.
 
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i get what your saying with that some people went into israel and gave birth there but they are not the true jews.. anyone knows that but i was not talking about that i showed you the scripture to show you who i was talking about and when i was talking about these people read carefully
This is true, Josh, and I'm glad you said this. Anyone knows that most of the "Jews" in present day Israel are not real Jews and they hate Christ, making them anti-Christ. However, that doesn't mean all the Jews on this earth are those "Jews." People obsessed with these who are truly of the "synagogue of Satan" get to the place they see all Jews in this manner.
 
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i get what your saying with that some people went into israel and gave birth there but they are not the true jews.. anyone knows that but i was not talking about that i showed you the scripture to show you who i was talking about and when i was talking about these people read carefully
So what are you saying then? The Jews killed Christ? Of course they did, they killed prophets all the time.

Matthew 23:37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together , even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!
 
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Because Christ rose on Sunday after His death. That is the center of our salvation His resurrection which He raised Adam and Eve and therefore all the human race.
 
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Mammachickadee

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"Remember the sabbath day and keep it holy"
"If you love me keep my commandmenys"
"Many say they know me but their actions are aganist me"
"On judgement day the book of laws was opened and people were judged according to what is in it"

MY QUESTION IS WHY ARE PEOPLE REJECTING THE LORDS WILL. WE CARRY OUR BAGS AND SAY WE ARE GOING TO CHURCH ON SUNDAY. SATURDAY HAS NOW BECOME A DAY OF PARTING AND SOCIAL EVENS. WHY? Someone please answer.
Because they don't value a relationship with God. Certain churches teach that no matter what you do, all you have to do is confess and everything will be okay. Though this is true for believers, it completely misses the point of Christianity. God did not free us from sin so we could live as we wanted. We are not to sin so that grace may abound through God's forgiveness. We are to live dead to sin and remade into the likeness of Christ.
 
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Because Christ rose on Sunday after His death. That is the center of our salvation His resurrection which He raised Adam and Eve and therefore all the human race.
Um... I can't remember where the study was, but it proved the Sabbath is Saturday (Oh ya... the 7 day calendar) and Christ was born in March (two aspects of Christianity that go contrary to tradition)
 
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Acts 20:7 KJV

And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.

I think any day is a good day to worship God. Rather its the 1st or 7th or 3rd day.God is worthy to be praised always. I go to church 4 times a week. Worship is not just for one day but for all days.
 

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For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God,Ephesians 2:8But if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works; otherwise grace would no longer be grace. Romans 11:6For sin will have no dominion over you, since you arenot under law but under grace. Romans 6:14Let us then with confidence draw near to the throne of grace, that we may receive mercy and find grace to help in time of need. Hebrews 4:16For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people, Titus 2:11But he gives more grace. Therefore it says, “God opposes the proud, but gives grace to the humble.” James 4:64 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace. Galatians 5:4 so what are you under? grace or law you decide weather you wanna accept the truth of be bondage to a law
I have decided not to be under the law anymore. I'll be around to your home tonight to clean it out. If you would be so kind as to leave your doors unlocked it will make it easier for me. By the way, if you interfere, I'll do something really nasty to you.

After all, I have decided not to be in bondage to the Law anymore.

See how stupid this sounds? Of course we must obey the Law, to be under the Law means to be subject to it's penalty which is eternal death. To be freed from the Law means to be freed from the penalty of the Law, eternal death.
 
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Shiloah

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I have decided not to be under the law anymore. I'll be around to your home tonight to clean it out. If you would be so kind as to leave your doors unlocked it will make it easier for me. By the way, if you interfere, I'll do something really nasty to you.

After all, I have decided not to be in bondage to the Law anymore.

See how stupid this sounds? Of course we must obey the Law, to be under the Law means to be subject to it's penalty which is eternal death. To be freed from the Law means to be freed from the penalty of the Law, eternal death.
Exxxxactly! :D
 
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Shiloah

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Because Christ rose on Sunday after His death. That is the center of our salvation His resurrection which He raised Adam and Eve and therefore all the human race.
What did Jesus say about breaking even the least of these commandments and teaching others to do so?

Who takes upon themselves the authority of God to change a Law of God?

Daniel 7:25

He will speak against the Most High and oppress his holy people and try to change the set times and the laws. The holy people will be delivered into his hands for a time, times and half a time.