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J
sound so naive.. 18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness. [h=3]Romans 6:18 you won't understand what this means but i will try to explain and hope that you will, what this is saying is since you have been born again and freed from sin you now become a slave to righteousness, you cannot go against god so if your a slave to righteousness why would you want to steal, kill, etc[/h]
Yep, He died on a Wednesday, was buried at sunset and was resurrected at sunset on Saturday.
By the way, not Jewish days, God reckons days to begin at sunset...
Gen 1:8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
Lev 23:32 It shall be unto you a sabbath of rest, and ye shall afflict your souls: in the ninth day of the month at even, from even unto even, shall ye celebrate your sabbath.
The calendar we use today is not the calendar of God, but that is for another thread.
By the way, not Jewish days, God reckons days to begin at sunset...
Gen 1:8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
Lev 23:32 It shall be unto you a sabbath of rest, and ye shall afflict your souls: in the ninth day of the month at even, from even unto even, shall ye celebrate your sabbath.
The calendar we use today is not the calendar of God, but that is for another thread.
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Paul said that he did...
Rom 7:12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
Rom 7:13 Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful.
Rom 7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
Rom 7:15 For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.
Rom 7:16 If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good.
Rom 7:17 Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
Rom 7:18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.
Rom 7:19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
Rom 7:20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
Rom 7:21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.
Rom 7:22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:
Rom 7:23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.
Rom 7:24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?
Perhaps you are more spiritual than Paul?
Rom 7:12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
Rom 7:13 Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful.
Rom 7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
Rom 7:15 For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.
Rom 7:16 If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good.
Rom 7:17 Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
Rom 7:18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.
Rom 7:19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
Rom 7:20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
Rom 7:21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.
Rom 7:22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:
Rom 7:23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.
Rom 7:24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?
Perhaps you are more spiritual than Paul?
J
don't you see.. he is trying to say he is a slave to sin but he wants to do good but he can't because he is a slave to sin 18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do. trying to say he wants to do the right thing but he can't 24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? he is asking who will deliver him from this body of death the flesh which knows no good because it is born in sin, so what is your point in showing me this? 14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
Hmmm, I think that it does...
Christ, the one who created day and night knows very well how long the daylight period of a day is...
Joh 11:9 Jesus answered, Are there not twelve hours in the day? If any man walk in the day, he stumbleth not, because he seeth the light of this world.
And this does not include the nighttime period of dark period...
Joh 11:10 But if a man walk in the night, he stumbleth, because there is no light in him.
He shows in the this verse the night is separate from the 12 hours of daylight.
Another problem with your reasoning is that the days are reckoned to begin at sunset. They did not use 12:00 midnight in 31AD.
And there is another problem...
Dan 9:25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
The decree went forth in 457BC. Counting from 457BC forward, 483 years (7*7=49 added to 62*7=434 gives us 483) we come to 27AD. Christ's ministry was 3-1/2 years bringing us to 31AD. The Passover occurred on Wednesday in 31AD.
And here is Bullinger's notes on Jonah 1:7...
Jonah 1:17
prepared = appointed, or assigned. From Hebrew. mdndh, to number. Hence, to appoint, as in Job_7:3. Dan_1:5; Dan_1:10-11; and Chaldee. mynah (Dan_5:25, Dan_5:26). Compare Jon_4:6-8. Never means to create.
great fish. Large enough to swallow him. in Mat_12:40, Greek. kilos - any large marine monster; whence Cetacece -the mammalian order of fish. No need for any name. Compare Mat_12:20; Mat_16:4. Luk_11:30.
swallow up . . . belly. Not therefore kept alive in the fish ' s mouth, as some imagine. When thus swallowed up, Jonah must have died, and thus became a type of Christ. The "as" and "so" in Mat_12:40 require Jonah's death. He would have been no type if he had been miraculously kept alive. See further notes below.
was = came to be.
belly = bowels.
three days and three nights. The Hebrew idiom "three days" can be used for parts of three days (and even of years): but not when the word "nights" is added. See Mat_12:40, and note the force of "as". See App-144and App-156.
Mat 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
This means 72 hours, three days (12 hours in the day John 11:9) and three nights, if there are 24 hours in the day what is 24-12? 12 hours of night.
Wednesday about sunset to Saturday about sunset.
Christ, the one who created day and night knows very well how long the daylight period of a day is...
Joh 11:9 Jesus answered, Are there not twelve hours in the day? If any man walk in the day, he stumbleth not, because he seeth the light of this world.
And this does not include the nighttime period of dark period...
Joh 11:10 But if a man walk in the night, he stumbleth, because there is no light in him.
He shows in the this verse the night is separate from the 12 hours of daylight.
Another problem with your reasoning is that the days are reckoned to begin at sunset. They did not use 12:00 midnight in 31AD.
And there is another problem...
Dan 9:25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
The decree went forth in 457BC. Counting from 457BC forward, 483 years (7*7=49 added to 62*7=434 gives us 483) we come to 27AD. Christ's ministry was 3-1/2 years bringing us to 31AD. The Passover occurred on Wednesday in 31AD.
And here is Bullinger's notes on Jonah 1:7...
Jonah 1:17
prepared = appointed, or assigned. From Hebrew. mdndh, to number. Hence, to appoint, as in Job_7:3. Dan_1:5; Dan_1:10-11; and Chaldee. mynah (Dan_5:25, Dan_5:26). Compare Jon_4:6-8. Never means to create.
great fish. Large enough to swallow him. in Mat_12:40, Greek. kilos - any large marine monster; whence Cetacece -the mammalian order of fish. No need for any name. Compare Mat_12:20; Mat_16:4. Luk_11:30.
swallow up . . . belly. Not therefore kept alive in the fish ' s mouth, as some imagine. When thus swallowed up, Jonah must have died, and thus became a type of Christ. The "as" and "so" in Mat_12:40 require Jonah's death. He would have been no type if he had been miraculously kept alive. See further notes below.
was = came to be.
belly = bowels.
three days and three nights. The Hebrew idiom "three days" can be used for parts of three days (and even of years): but not when the word "nights" is added. See Mat_12:40, and note the force of "as". See App-144and App-156.
Mat 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
This means 72 hours, three days (12 hours in the day John 11:9) and three nights, if there are 24 hours in the day what is 24-12? 12 hours of night.
Wednesday about sunset to Saturday about sunset.
I bet you would say that God created the world in 7 days or something like that. Right? Take the bible literally right? Please tell me what is 7 days for God, who is outside time ad doesn't live in time. How does someone outside time, like God, do things in a certain amount of time? God gave us the 7 day calander for us to know how to keep track of time. Why is it you will except the Old Testament Sabbath but you will not except that God formed a New Testament priesthood so that we may partake of His Divine Mysteries?
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I figure when it says 7 days that's what it means. Besides, what's the difference? God said to work for six days and rest on the 7th as a sign that our God created the world in 6 days and rested on the 7th. I hardly think He meant to work for 6,000 years and rest for the following millennium. What this boils down to is that He told us to do this. He put it in the ten commandments. When we have to dance all over the place to justify not doing what He said? Then we've got problems. That's all you're doing. How about we just do what He said?
"If you love Me, you'll do what I say."
Simple as that. And if you don't love Him, you don't have Him. Your version of a New Testament priesthood is obviously not based on keeping His commandments, which Christ said what about? "He who breaks even the least of these commandments and teaches others to do so will be called the least in the Kingdom of Heaven."
"If you love Me, you'll do what I say."
Simple as that. And if you don't love Him, you don't have Him. Your version of a New Testament priesthood is obviously not based on keeping His commandments, which Christ said what about? "He who breaks even the least of these commandments and teaches others to do so will be called the least in the Kingdom of Heaven."
Again God is outside time He could not have worked within time otherwise that would make God finite and therefore not eternal. And who is to say He rested on Saturday anyways? It only says that on the 7th day He rested man made the calendar but there is nothing set in stone that says Saturday is the 7th day.
Now I have a question for you: You say you were saved at 15 ok your save your going to heaven. That's great but why then do you have to do His will and follow His Commandments if your already saved?
Now I have a question for you: You say you were saved at 15 ok your save your going to heaven. That's great but why then do you have to do His will and follow His Commandments if your already saved?