what is the commandments of god?

[Michael50]

so your telling me you work 6 days constantly for the past 18 years? interesting.

I guess you didn't read my post.. If i have any chores to do,, I do them sunday thru Friday,,, at friday sundown,, I stop....

Josh,, I'm not doing anything today.. I cleaned all the carpets in my house yesterday,, and I'm not only tired,, but I'm a little stiff.. So,,today,, the 5th day of the week,, I'm not workin.


And come the 7th day,, I'm surely not workin,, I'm obeying God and honoring Him on His Sabbath Day that He commanded me to Observe.

 

[josh123]

where does believing in god come in the 10 commandments? so i guess we don't have to do that such it isn't in the 10 commandments?

 

[john832]

nono donkeyfish07 i just wanna discuss this with my adventist friends to see what truly is the commandments that god said we must follow i'm waiting for someone to acknowledge me if it is right so don't put that yet

Well, since I am not an SDA, you leave me out. Adios me boyo.

 

[Michael50]

where does believing in god come in the 10 commandments? so i guess we don't have to do that such it isn't in the 10 commandments?

How about His 4th Commandment Josh!

Without the 4th Commandment,, men would forget God and worship the Creation instead of the Creator... Forgetting Gods Sabbath leads to Idolatry!!!! Cant you see that?

Is it any wonder to you, why God began His 4th Commandment with the word "Remember"???

 

[homwardbound]

well people sharing a lot of stuff and got different theories so i'm just curious what do you think the commandment of god is the commandment we must keep to know that we are doing the right thing please share

The greatest of commandments is LOVE and yet flesh still can't even perform this of flesh.
So what is needed? Obviously God's LOVE.
So I see it this way we won't ever love as God does until we see the Love of God expounded onto the whole world through the cross, starting at the death of Christ there to bring us new life in the Spirit by the resurrection, if we are willing to die to flesh self nature, we might be able to gain the resurrection God permitting and move onto perfection

We can't truthfully Love as God does without seeing
1 John 4:19 We love Him because He first loved us.

Where is this shown at:
[h=3]Colossians 1:22[/h]King James Version (KJV)


[SUP]22 [/SUP]In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:

By belief in his finished work of all sins being forgiven through Christ we are to be baptized in the Holy Ghost and thus we are buried with him in his death so we can receive new life and walk daily in this new life with God in the Spirit of God where that today is the only way God is worshipped
Romans 6:4
Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
Colossians 2:12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

1. John 4:23
   But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
   
2. John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
   
   So it is not that we try to Love as God Loves. It is by the born again life through the cross death and resurrection that we Love as God does shown best in 1 cor. 13:4-13
   [h=3]1 Corinthians 13:4-13[/h]New King James Version (NKJV)
   
   [SUP]4 [/SUP]Love suffers long and is kind; love does not envy; love does not parade itself, is not puffed up; [SUP]5 [/SUP]does not behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked, thinks no evil; [SUP]6 [/SUP]does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth; [SUP]7 [/SUP]bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
   [SUP]8 [/SUP]Love never fails. But whether there are prophecies, they will fail; whether there are tongues, they will cease; whether there is knowledge, it will vanish away. [SUP]9 [/SUP]For we know in part and we prophesy in part. [SUP]10 [/SUP]But when that which is perfect has come, then that which is in part will be done away.
   [SUP]11 [/SUP]When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child; but when I became a man, I put away childish things. [SUP]12 [/SUP]For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part, but then I shall know just as I also am known.
   [SUP]13 [/SUP]And now abide faith, hope, love, these three; but the greatest of these is love.
   
   

 

[josh123]

I guess you didn't read my post.. If i have any chores to do,, I do them sunday thru Friday,,, at friday sundown,, I stop....

Josh,, I'm not doing anything today.. I cleaned all the carpets in my house yesterday,, and I'm not only tired,, but I'm a little stiff.. So,,today,, the 5th day of the week,, I'm not workin.


And come the 7th day,, I'm surely not workin,, I'm obeying God and honoring Him on His Sabbath Day that He commanded me to Observe.

9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: so how are you obeying god thought this says 6 days

 

[Michael50]

9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: so how are you obeying god thought this says 6 days

Obviously,, you think that if a person has no chores left and it is only day 5,, they should dig a hole til Sabbath Comes?

Are you that inept at understanding Gods Commandments?

 

[josh123]

The greatest of commandments is LOVE and yet flesh still can't even perform this of flesh.
So what is needed? Obviously God's LOVE.
So I see it this way we won't ever love as God does until we see the Love of God expounded onto the whole world through the cross, starting at the death of Christ there to bring us new life in the Spirit by the resurrection, if we are willing to die to flesh self nature, we might be able to gain the resurrection God permitting and move onto perfection

We can't truthfully Love as God does without seeing
1 John 4:19 We love Him because He first loved us.

Where is this shown at:
Colossians 1:22

King James Version (KJV)


[SUP]22 [/SUP]In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:

By belief in his finished work of all sins being forgiven through Christ we are to be baptized in the Holy Ghost and thus we are buried with him in his death so we can receive new life and walk daily in this new life with God in the Spirit of God where that today is the only way God is worshipped
Romans 6:4
Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
Colossians 2:12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

1. John 4:23
   But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
2. John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
   
   So it is not that we try to Love as God Loves. It is by the born again life through the cross death and resurrection that we Love as God does shown best in 1 cor. 13:4-13
   1 Corinthians 13:4-13
   
   New King James Version (NKJV)
   
   [SUP]4 [/SUP]Love suffers long and is kind; love does not envy; love does not parade itself, is not puffed up; [SUP]5 [/SUP]does not behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked, thinks no evil; [SUP]6 [/SUP]does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth; [SUP]7 [/SUP]bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
   [SUP]8 [/SUP]Love never fails. But whether there are prophecies, they will fail; whether there are tongues, they will cease; whether there is knowledge, it will vanish away. [SUP]9 [/SUP]For we know in part and we prophesy in part. [SUP]10 [/SUP]But when that which is perfect has come, then that which is in part will be done away.
   [SUP]11 [/SUP]When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child; but when I became a man, I put away childish things. [SUP]12 [/SUP]For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part, but then I shall know just as I also am known.
   [SUP]13 [/SUP]And now abide faith, hope, love, these three; but the greatest of these is love.

but hey how can they worship in spirit and it truth it isn't in the 10 commandments to believe on jesus so how will they receive the baptism of the holy spirit ( i really do hope they see what i'm trying to say here)

 

[josh123]

Obviously,, you think that if a person has no chores left and it is only day 5,, they should dig a hole til Sabbath Comes?

Are you that inept at understanding Gods Commandments?

but,but,but it said six days shalt thou labour so once again how are you obeying god although it says 6 days and not 5

 

[josh123]

2 I am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. i never knew it was the gentiles that was in bondage in egypt?

 

[Michael50]

but,but,but it said six days shalt thou labour so once again how are you obeying god although it says 6 days and not 5

Josh,,,, let's not get stupid..

the Command says " ..six days you shall labor and do all your work."

Josh,, if all your work is done on day 5,, Go fishing or golfing,, or dig a hole if you so desire.. But,don't teach folks they are sinning because they aren't out digging holes or cutting grass that doesn't need cutting on any day other than Sabbath..

That's the first time I have ever heard anybody try to twist Gods Laws into making folks work 24 hours a day 6 days a week.... Josh,, you are not using your brain. Surely you are smarter than what you are showing thru your posts.

 

[josh123]

Josh,,,, let's not get stupid..

the Command says " ..six days you shall labor and do all your work."

Josh,, if all your work is done on day 5,, Go fishing or golfing,, or dig a hole if you so desire.. But,don't teach folks they are sinning because they aren't out digging holes or cutting grass that doesn't need cutting on any day other than Sabbath..

That's the first time I have ever heard anybody try to twist Gods Laws into making folks work 24 hours a day 6 days a week.... Josh,, you are not using your brain. Surely you are smarter than what you are showing thru your posts.

saying it as it is it said SIX DAYS SHALL THOU LABOUR twist did it say if you finish your labour you can take a break? it is saying for 6 days you shall labour, so if your not labouring for 6 days... you are breaking the commandment u keep. lol sounds like you just don't want to accept it.

 

[homwardbound]

20 And God spake all these words, saying,
2 I am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
7 Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain; for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
12 Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee.
13 Thou shalt not kill.
14 Thou shalt not commit adultery.
15 Thou shalt not steal.
16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
17 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.
Exodus 20:1-17 is this the commandment we have to follow?

Those are commandments to the flesh just as the two greatest commands are as well. commandments to the flesh, that no flesh can do 100% of the time, never could after being born of the flesh as Adam and Eve became aware of flesh, and thus ruled by flesh to be God's, independence from God the creator of all.
The commandment is:
John 11:25 Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live.
John 11:26 And whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die. Do you believe this?”
John 12:44 Then Jesus cried out and said, “He who believes in Me, believes not in Me but in Him who sent Me.
John 12:46 I have come as a light into the world, that whoever believes in Me should not abide in darkness.
John 14:10 Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me? The words that I speak to you I do not speak on My own authority; but the Father who dwells in Me does the works.
John 14:11 Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father in Me, or else believe Me for the sake of the works themselves.
John 14:12 [ The Answered Prayer ] “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do he will do also; and greater works than these he will do, because I go to My Father.
John 17:20 [ Jesus Prays for All Believers ] “I do not pray for these alone, but also for those who will believe in Me through their word;
John 17:21 that they all may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I in You; that they also may be one in Us, that the world may believe that You sent Me.
1 Corinthians 1:21 For since, in the wisdom of God, the world through wisdom did not know God, it pleased God through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe.
1 Thessalonians 2:13 [ Their Conversion ] For this reason we also thank God without ceasing, because when you received the word of God which you heard from us, you welcomed it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which also effectively works in you who believe.
1 Timothy 1:16 However, for this reason I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might show all longsuffering, as a pattern to those who are going to believe on Him for everlasting life.
1 Timothy 4:10 For to this end we both labor and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Savior of all men, especially of those who believe.
1 Peter 2:6 Therefore it is also contained in the Scripture, “Behold, I lay in Zion A chief cornerstone, elect, precious, And he who believes on Him will by no means be put to shame.”

A lot of Believe, so I conclude it is through belief that we will be and especially see the verse

John 14:10 Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me? The words that I speak to you I do not speak on My own authority; but the Father who dwells in Me does the works.

So today after the resurrected Christ who is it that is to do the works, us or Father via the same Holy Spirit that led Christ? And this Love of god through us is what?
Yes the fulfillment of the Law all Law and it is not us that does this. It is God through us by Faith and thus no room fro pride or boasting of self ever. Only Boasting of God

 

[Michael50]

saying it as it is it said SIX DAYS SHALL THOU LABOUR twist did it say if you finish your labour you can take a break? it is saying for 6 days you shall labour, so if your not labouring for 6 days... you are breaking the commandment u keep. lol sounds like you just don't want to accept it.

Gods laws are not burdensome. Is sleeping at anytime during sunday thru friday also a sin?

If sleeping is a also a sin,, why did Satan even bother tempting Eve?


If sleeping is a sin,, why did Adam suffer transgression?

Josh,, next time you call out a Seventh-Day Adventist.. have a better plan,, you have proven that you do not know Gods Commandments.. Afterall,, you believe sleep to be an act of sin.

have a nice day.

 

[josh123]

but to make this discussion end 23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. so if these 2 things is his commandments where does the rest fit in? or where does it say to keep the sabbath and if your telling me that the commandments we should keep is in the book of exodus from moses that let's just say we totally forget about this commandment, which is the only way anyone can be saved and if we are to keep the 10 commandments what is the point for this one? because the 10 commandments should be the true commandments of god ( according to your belief) so that means the rest is below this one? well i'm sorry sir i chose to believe in god and receive the baptism of the holy ghost and love everyone not just pretend to love in my nature to love and to love is to fullfil the law. Owe no one anything, except to love each other, for the one who loves another has fulfilled the law. [h=3]Romans 13:8[/h]

 

[josh123]

Gods laws are not burdensome. Is sleeping at anytime during sunday thru friday also a sin?

If sleeping is a also a sin,, why did Satan even bother tempting Eve?


If sleeping is a sin,, why did Adam suffer transgression?

Josh,, next time you call out a Seventh-Day Adventist.. have a better plan,, you have proven that you do not know Gods Commandments.. Afterall,, you believe sleep to be an act of sin.

have a nice day.

bear false witness. nice. you truly do love god and to show that by keeping his commandments

 

[Michael50]

but to make this discussion end 23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. so if these 2 things is his commandments where does the rest fit in? or where does it say to keep the sabbath and if your telling me that the commandments we should keep is in the book of exodus from moses that let's just say we totally forget about this commandment, which is the only way anyone can be saved and if we are to keep the 10 commandments what is the point for this one? because the 10 commandments should be the true commandments of god ( according to your belief) so that means the rest is below this one? well i'm sorry sir i chose to believe in god and receive the baptism of the holy ghost and love everyone not just pretend to love in my nature to love and to love is to fullfil the law. Owe no one anything, except to love each other, for the one who loves another has fulfilled the law. Romans 13:8

Chop it up anyway you want.

Loving God = first 4 commandments
Loving neighbor = last 6 Commandmetns

10 Commandments and the faith of Jesus.

 

[Michael50]

bear false witness. nice. you truly do love god and to show that by keeping his commandments

josh,, you called me out,,, then you sat here and claimed that anybody that isn't working constantly for 6 days in a row is sinning!!

Now your mad because i uncovered your ignorant statement for what it is,, and now you claim I bear false witness against you?

Like I said,, next time you call out an Adventist,, you'd better do your homework. You failed miserably.

 

[josh123]

Those are commandments to the flesh just as the two greatest commands are as well. commandments to the flesh, that no flesh can do 100% of the time, never could after being born of the flesh as Adam and Eve became aware of flesh, and thus ruled by flesh to be God's, independence from God the creator of all.
The commandment is:
John 11:25 Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live.
John 11:26 And whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die. Do you believe this?”
John 12:44 Then Jesus cried out and said, “He who believes in Me, believes not in Me but in Him who sent Me.
John 12:46 I have come as a light into the world, that whoever believes in Me should not abide in darkness.
John 14:10 Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me? The words that I speak to you I do not speak on My own authority; but the Father who dwells in Me does the works.
John 14:11 Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father in Me, or else believe Me for the sake of the works themselves.
John 14:12 [ The Answered Prayer ] “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do he will do also; and greater works than these he will do, because I go to My Father.
John 17:20 [ Jesus Prays for All Believers ] “I do not pray for these alone, but also for those who will believe in Me through their word;
John 17:21 that they all may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I in You; that they also may be one in Us, that the world may believe that You sent Me.
1 Corinthians 1:21 For since, in the wisdom of God, the world through wisdom did not know God, it pleased God through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe.
1 Thessalonians 2:13 [ Their Conversion ] For this reason we also thank God without ceasing, because when you received the word of God which you heard from us, you welcomed it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which also effectively works in you who believe.
1 Timothy 1:16 However, for this reason I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might show all longsuffering, as a pattern to those who are going to believe on Him for everlasting life.
1 Timothy 4:10 For to this end we both labor and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Savior of all men, especially of those who believe.
1 Peter 2:6 Therefore it is also contained in the Scripture, “Behold, I lay in Zion A chief cornerstone, elect, precious, And he who believes on Him will by no means be put to shame.”

A lot of Believe, so I conclude it is through belief that we will be and especially see the verse

John 14:10 Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me? The words that I speak to you I do not speak on My own authority; but the Father who dwells in Me does the works.

So today after the resurrected Christ who is it that is to do the works, us or Father via the same Holy Spirit that led Christ? And this Love of god through us is what?
Yes the fulfillment of the Law all Law and it is not us that does this. It is God through us by Faith and thus no room fro pride or boasting of self ever. Only Boasting of God

but hey the sabbath keepers only believe in the 10 commandments so how can they believe on this one " And this is his commandment, that we believe in the name of his Son Jesus Christ and love one another, just as he has commanded us. [h=3]1 John 3:23 how can they receive their salvation then and know the will of god? now i know what they gonna say now " when jesus died i receive my salvation " this is so true but we don't receive it until we BELIEVE that in our HEART through FAITH. [/h]

 

[josh123]

josh,, you called me out,,, then you sat here and claimed that anybody that isn't working constantly for 6 days in a row is sinning!!

Now your mad because i uncovered your ignorant statement for what it is,, and now you claim I bear false witness against you?

Like I said,, next time you call out an Adventist,, you'd better do your homework. You failed miserably.

bear false witness again, how do am i mad? but the commandments set so and you said you love god and the commandment says 9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: don't get mad at me sir.