WHY DOES GOD SAY HE HATES CAUCASIANS ?

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a search of history and several books including numerous childrens books would tell you that edom is the roman empire
ESAU-Forefather of the Roman Empire And Europeans | Faithin YHVH

and we all know that out of the roman empire came europe and america. basically the caucasian race of today are biblical edom. so the question is why has God mentioned in numerous verses his distaste for caucasians and his future judgements for them all over the bible ? caucasians rule the world today and scriptures say they would be in control till the second coming so it would be expected that they would feature very prominently in the bible right ? hence why esau is prominently represented in the bible especially the old testament. ok here are a few statements about caucasians made by the lord

romans 9 vs 13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated. and we know esau is edom . genesis 36 vs 8 Esau is Edom

ezekiel 35 vs 10 Because thou hast said, These two nations and these two countries shall be mine, and we will possess it; whereas the Lord was there so apparently this nation of people called edom would go around taking peoples land by force. the two in question here would be the land of the americas and australia

ezekiel 36 vs 5 therefore thus says the Lord GOD, "Surely in the fire of My jealousy I have spoken against the rest of the nations, and against all Edom, who appropriated My land for themselves as a possession with wholehearted joy and with scorn of soul, to drive it out for a prey."

so this taking lands that belongs to others firmly solidifies the case that edom is roman empire is the caucasian race today. mind you those two ezekiel verses of land appropriation are end day prophesies before christ comes so they would be events that happened in the last 500 or less years.

now that we have identified who edom is, my question again is WHY DOES GOD SAY HE HATES CAUCASIANS ? WHY WOULD GOD HATE A WHOLE NATION OF PEOPLE ? I AM SURE THERE WILL BE SOME GOOD AMONGST THEM RIGHT ?
 
MALACHI 1 VS4 Whereas Edom saith, We are impoverished, but we will return and build the desolate places; thus saith the Lord of hosts, They shall build, but I will throw down; and they shall call them, The border of wickedness, and, The people against whom the Lord hath indignation for ever. <<< ANOTHER ANGRY TIRADE OF THE LORD AGAINST CAUCASIANS. WHY ?
 
Wrong race, who do you think Israel is and who do you think Esau is today?
 
He doesn't, you don't understand the spiritual meaning behind this. Esau represents the unsaved, and Jacob represent the saved (Abraham's seed, Christ, those in Christ). God is not a respecter of persons
Acts 10:34, English Standard Version
So Peter opened his mouth and said: “Truly I understand that God shows no partiality,"

Remember, God's attributes and character does not change, and scripture does not contradict scripture, therefore we need to seek to understand the things that's aren't clear by things that are clear.
 
Jeremiah 24 and 25

24 The Lord shewed me, and, behold, two baskets of figs were set before the temple of the Lord, after that Nebuchadrezzar king of Babylon had carried away captive Jeconiah the son of Jehoiakim king of Judah, and the princes of Judah, with the carpenters and smiths, from Jerusalem, and had brought them to Babylon.
2 One basket had very good figs, even like the figs that are first ripe: and the other basket had very naughty figs, which could not be eaten, they were so bad.
3 Then said the Lord unto me, What seest thou, Jeremiah? And I said, Figs; the good figs, very good; and the evil, very evil, that cannot be eaten, they are so evil.
4 Again the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,
5 Thus saith the Lord, the God of Israel; Like these good figs, so will I acknowledge them that are carried away captive of Judah, whom I have sent out of this place into the land of the Chaldeans for their good.
6 For I will set mine eyes upon them for good, and I will bring them again to this land: and I will build them, and not pull them down; and I will plant them, and not pluck them up.
7 And I will give them an heart to know me, that I am the Lord: and they shall be my people, and I will be their God: for they shall return unto me with their whole heart.
8 And as the evil figs, which cannot be eaten, they are so evil; surely thus saith the Lord, So will I give Zedekiah the king of Judah, and his princes, and the residue of Jerusalem, that remain in this land, and them that dwell in the land of Egypt:
9 And I will deliver them to be removed into all the kingdoms of the earth for their hurt, to be a reproach and a proverb, a taunt and a curse, in all places whither I shall drive them.
10 And I will send the sword, the famine, and the pestilence, among them, till they be consumed from off the land that I gave unto them and to their fathers.


25 The word that came to Jeremiah concerning all the people of Judah in the fourth year of Jehoiakim the son of Josiah king of Judah, that was the first year of Nebuchadrezzar king of Babylon;
2 The which Jeremiah the prophet spake unto all the people of Judah, and to all the inhabitants of Jerusalem, saying,
3 From the thirteenth year of Josiah the son of Amon king of Judah, even unto this day, that is the three and twentieth year, the word of the Lord hath come unto me, and I have spoken unto you, rising early and speaking; but ye have not hearkened.
4 And the Lord hath sent unto you all his servants the prophets, rising early and sending them; but ye have not hearkened, nor inclined your ear to hear.
5 They said, Turn ye again now every one from his evil way, and from the evil of your doings, and dwell in the land that the Lord hath given unto you and to your fathers for ever and ever:
6 And go not after other gods to serve them, and to worship them, and provoke me not to anger with the works of your hands; and I will do you no hurt.
7 Yet ye have not hearkened unto me, saith the Lord; that ye might provoke me to anger with the works of your hands to your own hurt.
8 Therefore thus saith the Lord of hosts; Because ye have not heard my words,
9 Behold, I will send and take all the families of the north, saith the Lord, and Nebuchadrezzar the king of Babylon, my servant, and will bring them against this land, and against the inhabitants thereof, and against all these nations round about, and will utterly destroy them, and make them an astonishment, and an hissing, and perpetual desolations.
10 Moreover I will take from them the voice of mirth, and the voice of gladness, the voice of the bridegroom, and the voice of the bride, the sound of the millstones, and the light of the candle.
11 And this whole land shall be a desolation, and an astonishment; and these nations shall serve the king of Babylon seventy years.
12 And it shall come to pass, when seventy years are accomplished, that I will punish the king of Babylon, and that nation, saith the Lord, for their iniquity, and the land of the Chaldeans, and will make it perpetual desolations.
13 And I will bring upon that land all my words which I have pronounced against it, even all that is written in this book, which Jeremiah hath prophesied against all the nations.
14 For many nations and great kings shall serve themselves of them also: and I will recompense them according to their deeds, and according to the works of their own hands.
15 For thus saith the Lord God of Israel unto me; Take the wine cup of this fury at my hand, and cause all the nations, to whom I send thee, to drink it.
16 And they shall drink, and be moved, and be mad, because of the sword that I will send among them.
17 Then took I the cup at the Lord's hand, and made all the nations to drink, unto whom theLord had sent me:
18 To wit, Jerusalem, and the cities of Judah, and the kings thereof, and the princes thereof, to make them a desolation, an astonishment, an hissing, and a curse; as it is this day;
19 Pharaoh king of Egypt, and his servants, and his princes, and all his people;
20 And all the mingled people, and all the kings of the land of Uz, and all the kings of the land of the Philistines, and Ashkelon, and Azzah, and Ekron, and the remnant of Ashdod,
21 Edom, and Moab, and the children of Ammon,
22 And all the kings of Tyrus, and all the kings of Zidon, and the kings of the isles which are beyond the sea,
23 Dedan, and Tema, and Buz, and all that are in the utmost corners,
24 And all the kings of Arabia, and all the kings of the mingled people that dwell in the desert,
25 And all the kings of Zimri, and all the kings of Elam, and all the kings of the Medes,
26 And all the kings of the north, far and near, one with another, and all the kingdoms of the world, which are upon the face of the earth: and the king of Sheshach shall drink after them.
27 Therefore thou shalt say unto them, Thus saith the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel; Drink ye, and be drunken, and spue, and fall, and rise no more, because of the sword which I will send among you.
28 And it shall be, if they refuse to take the cup at thine hand to drink, then shalt thou say unto them, Thus saith the Lord of hosts; Ye shall certainly drink.
29 For, lo, I begin to bring evil on the city which is called by my name, and should ye be utterly unpunished? Ye shall not be unpunished: for I will call for a sword upon all the inhabitants of the earth, saith the Lord of hosts.
30 Therefore prophesy thou against them all these words, and say unto them, The Lord shall roar from on high, and utter his voice from his holy habitation; he shall mightily roar upon his habitation; he shall give a shout, as they that tread the grapes, against all the inhabitants of the earth.
31 A noise shall come even to the ends of the earth; for the Lord hath a controversy with the nations, he will plead with all flesh; he will give them that are wicked to the sword, saith the Lord.
32 Thus saith the Lord of hosts, Behold, evil shall go forth from nation to nation, and a great whirlwind shall be raised up from the coasts of the earth.
33 And the slain of the Lord shall be at that day from one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth: they shall not be lamented, neither gathered, nor buried; they shall be dung upon the ground.
34 Howl, ye shepherds, and cry; and wallow yourselves in the ashes, ye principal of the flock: for the days of your slaughter and of your dispersions are accomplished; and ye shall fall like a pleasant vessel.
35 And the shepherds shall have no way to flee, nor the principal of the flock to escape.
36 A voice of the cry of the shepherds, and an howling of the principal of the flock, shall be heard: for the Lord hath spoiled their pasture.
37 And the peaceable habitations are cut down because of the fierce anger of the Lord.
38 He hath forsaken his covert, as the lion: for their land is desolate because of the fierceness of the oppressor, and because of his fierce anger.
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I read this a short while ago today and consider it may shed some light here.
 
oh wow.
was Jacob white also?
how do you get two bothers (TWINS no less) coming from the same parents, yet are different races?
Bookends already answered this.

God Himself decides who will bear the birthrights (inheritances).
the physically firstborn isn't always the heir.

these are spiritual matters.
God was concerned about the Hebrew's lines ONLY in that it was necessary to keep them CLEAR for Christ to come through.

Galatians uses an allegory to describe Two Covenants - Old & New.
Paul uses an allegory of Hagar and Ishmael (Abraham's first born) VS Sarah and Isaac (second born) to show that it is NOT the children of the flesh (by the will of man; desire of man) who inherit, but the children of promise (spiritual) who are heirs.

in this allegory, Paul goes further and deeper - and is actually comparing Hagar and Ishmael to unbelieving jews and jerusalem who clung to the Old Covenant (which was becoming obsolete and was bearing children for slavery) to CHRISTIANS (believing jews and believing gentiles) who were born spiritually by GOD, and were heirs (spiritual) to the promise (spiritual).

Paul said just as Ishamel persecuted Isaac; unbelieving jews we persecuting CHRISTIANS (jews and gentiles).

it's not about RACE.

it's about GRACE....any gospel not about inheriting through faith in Christ is another gospel, and those will not inherit.

Galatians 4
Sons and Heirs
1I mean that the heir, as long as he is a child, is no different from a slave,a though he is the owner of everything, 2but he is under guardians and managers until the date set by his father. 3In the same way we also, when we were children, were enslaved to the elementary principlesb of the world. 4But when the fullness of time had come, God sent forth his Son, born of woman, born under the law, 5to redeem those who were under the law, so that we might receive adoption as sons. 6And because you are sons, God has sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, crying, “Abba! Father!” 7So you are no longer a slave, but a son, and if a son, then an heir through God.

Example of Hagar and Sarah
21Tell me, you who desire to be under the law, do you not listen to the law? 22For it is written that Abraham had two sons, one by a slave woman and one by a free woman. 23But the son of the slave was born according to the flesh, while the son of the free woman was born through promise. 24Now this may be interpreted allegorically: these women are two covenants. One is from Mount Sinai, bearing children for slavery; she is Hagar. 25Now Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia;e she corresponds to the present Jerusalem, for she is in slavery with her children. 26But the Jerusalem above is free, and she is our mother. 27For it is written,

“Rejoice, O barren one who does not bear;
break forth and cry aloud, you who are not in labor!
For the children of the desolate one will be more
than those of the one who has a husband.”

28Now you,f brothers, like Isaac, are children of promise. 29But just as at that time he who was born according to the flesh persecuted him who was born according to the Spirit, so also it is now. 30But what does the Scripture say? “Cast out the slave woman and her son, for the son of the slave woman shall not inherit with the son of the free woman.” 31So, brothers, we are not children of the slave but of the free woman.
 
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WHY DOES GOD SAY HE HATES CAUCASIANS ? WHY WOULD GOD HATE A WHOLE NATION OF PEOPLE ? I AM SURE THERE WILL BE SOME GOOD AMONGST THEM RIGHT ?
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John 3:16 NASB
"For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life."

Racial hatred are the seeds that brought us the Jewish holocaust and WWII - My bible says that God so loved the whole world.

God bless!

Paul

 
zone said:
oh wow.
was Jacob white also?
how do you get two bothers (TWINS no less) coming from the same parents, yet are different races?
Bookends already answered this.

God Himself decides who will bear the birthrights (inheritances).
the physically firstborn isn't always the heir.

these are spiritual matters.

Galatians uses an allegory to describe Two Covenants - Old & New.
Paul uses an allegory of Hagar and Ishmael (Abraham's first born) VS Sarah and Isaac (second born) to show that it is NOT the children of the flesh (by the will of man; desire of man) who inherit, but the children of promise (spiritual) who are heirs.

in this allegory, Paul goes further and deeper - and is actually comparing Hagar and Ishmael to unbelieving jews and jerusalem who clung to the Old Covenant (which was becoming obsolete and was bearing children for slavery) to CHRISTIANS (believing jews and believing gentiles) who were born spiritually by GOD, and were heirs (spiritual) to the promise (spiritual).

Paul said just as Ishamel persecuted Isaac; unbelieving jews we persecuting CHRISTIANS (jews and gentiles).

it's not about RACE.

it's about GRACE....any gospel not about inheriting through faith in Christ is another gospel, and those will not inherit.

Galatians 4
Sons and Heirs
1I mean that the heir, as long as he is a child, is no different from a slave,a though he is the owner of everything, 2but he is under guardians and managers until the date set by his father. 3In the same way we also, when we were children, were enslaved to the elementary principlesb of the world. 4But when the fullness of time had come, God sent forth his Son, born of woman, born under the law, 5to redeem those who were under the law, so that we might receive adoption as sons. 6And because you are sons, God has sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, crying, “Abba! Father!” 7So you are no longer a slave, but a son, and if a son, then an heir through God.

Example of Hagar and Sarah
21Tell me, you who desire to be under the law, do you not listen to the law? 22For it is written that Abraham had two sons, one by a slave woman and one by a free woman. 23But the son of the slave was born according to the flesh, while the son of the free woman was born through promise. 24Now this may be interpreted allegorically: these women are two covenants. One is from Mount Sinai, bearing children for slavery; she is Hagar. 25Now Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia;e she corresponds to the present Jerusalem, for she is in slavery with her children. 26But the Jerusalem above is free, and she is our mother. 27For it is written,

“Rejoice, O barren one who does not bear;
break forth and cry aloud, you who are not in labor!
For the children of the desolate one will be more
than those of the one who has a husband.”

28Now you,f brothers, like Isaac, are children of promise. 29But just as at that time he who was born according to the flesh persecuted him who was born according to the Spirit, so also it is now. 30But what does the Scripture say? “Cast out the slave woman and her son, for the son of the slave woman shall not inherit with the son of the free woman.” 31So, brothers, we are not children of the slave but of the free woman.
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the twins are not actual twins. the story is metaphorical and allegorical. the mother is the earth.
 
TruthTalk said:
John 3:16 NASB
"For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life."

Racial hatred are the seeds that brought us the Jewish holocaust and WWII - My bible says that God so loved the whole world.

God bless!

Paul
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i understand all that. my question here is does God hate every caucasian or are there exceptions ? i want to know if i am wasting my time serving someone who hates me ? there has to be exceptions right ?
 
danielseveneighteen said:
the twins are not actual twins. the story is metaphorical. the mother is the earth.
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oh...okay.
it's early and i didn't realize you were a pagan, not a christian.
the earth is not MY mother - Jerusalem above is my mother.

why do you bother?
really - are you that bored you think you're going to sway christians, or rattle them with your ideas?
it's just silly.

if the Bible is a metaphor, you my friend are just an illusion - either that or you descended from an amoeba or a monkey.
which means we still have nothing in common:)

like - what's your plan, bud?
not enough Gaia gamers out there willing to engage in controversy?

yawn...need more coffee:D
brb
 
danielseveneighteen said:
the twins are not actual twins. the story is metaphorical and allegorical. the mother is the earth.
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It was not a story or allegory . Your not fully reading or studying what is written ......... They where both the same. Jacob the 12 tribes came from, you would know that if you study some. Esau later formed Edom which means red, they land east of the red sea, problem named after them, up north, the land is not occupied by The Russians . Hairy , well look at the Bear symoblic for Russia today, and he was a hairy dude. Keep it simple to what is writen. The bible is not some story .
 
zone said:
oh...okay.
it's early and i didn't realize you were a pagan, not a christian.
the earth is not MY mother - Jerusalem above is my mother.

why do you bother?
really - are you that bored you think you're going to sway christians, or rattle them with your ideas?
it's just silly.

if the Bible is a metaphor, you my friend are just an illusion - either that or you descended from an amoeba or a monkey.
which means we still have nothing in common:)

like - what's your plan, bud?
not enough Gaia gamers out there willing to engage in controversy?

yawn...need more coffee:D
brb
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ashes to ashes and dust to dust. the earth is your mother. :cool:
 
danielseveneighteen said:
i understand all that. my question here is does God hate every caucasian or are there exceptions ? i want to know if i am wasting my time serving someone who hates me ? there has to be exceptions right ?
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wake up
wake up
it's only a dream!

dude...

1) you're not serving the true God by calling the bible a metaphor
2) God doesn't hate due to skin color - he hates SIN.
3) you sin by not believing what he said



[video=youtube;j01SGogFtFo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j01SGogFtFo[/video]
 
zone said:
tuzki-bunny-emoticon-043.gif


wake up
wake up
it's only a dream!

dude...

1) you're not serving the true God by calling the bible a metaphor
2) God doesn't hate due to skin color - he hates SIN.
3) you sin by not believing what he said



[video=youtube;j01SGogFtFo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j01SGogFtFo[/video]
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but he emphatically stated that he hates my kind :confused:
 
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