Works

[Least]

There are several different types of works listed throughout the bible. It seems that when the word, "works," is mentioned, most people jump to the conclusion that what is being talked about is "works based salvation."

I thought it would be interesting to look at some of the different types and examples of "works" listed throughout the bible. There are more verses that go into these things. To keep this from being too long, I'll list a few.

Some that I've taken note of are;

1. Works of God
2. Works of faith
3. Works without faith
4. Works of wickedness


Works of God:

1 Chronicles 16:8 Give thanks unto the LORD, call upon his name, make known his deeds among the people.
1 Chronicles 16:9 Sing unto him, sing psalms unto him, talk ye of all his wondrous works.


Psalms 33:4For the word of the LORD is right; and all his works are done intruth.


Psalms 40:5 Many, O LORD my God, are thy wonderful works which thou hast done,and thy thoughts which are to us-ward: they cannot be reckoned up in order unto thee: if I would declare and speak of them, they are more than can be numbered.


John 9:3 Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him.

Works of faith:


Titus 3:8 This is a faithful saying,and these things I will that thou affirm constantly, that they which have believed in God might be careful to maintain good works. These things are good and profitable unto men.


James 2:14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?
James 2:15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,
James 2:16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?
James 2:17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.

Works without faith:


James 2:18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.


James 2:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

Works of wickedness:


Nehemiah 9:35 For they have not served thee in their kingdom, and in thy great goodness that thou gavest them, and in the large and fat land which thou gavest before them, neither turned they from their wicked works.


Psalms 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt,they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.


Titus 1:15 Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.
Titus 1:16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.

 

[Jane_doe]

The Word of God makes it very clear we will be judged according to our works. I believe faith without works is dead and profits nothing.

 

[homwardbound]

Cool, and a good start on separation of what works are:

For me I only want God's works through me where God gets all the credit, such as Moses showed. Noah showed. Abraham showed and Paul showed
Galatians 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

So who does the work's? God or self? my choice is the exchanged life as what Gal 2:20 shows.

 

[crossnote]

John 3:21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

These are good works formed in us by God

 

[john832]

Cool, and a good start on separation of what works are:

For me I only want God's works through me where God gets all the credit, such as Moses showed. Noah showed. Abraham showed and Paul showed
Galatians 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

So who does the work's? God or self? my choice is the exchanged life as what Gal 2:20 shows.

Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

 

[zone]

The Word of God makes it very clear we will be judged according to our works. I believe faith without works is dead and profits nothing.

really Jane?
according to the Papacy?

if redeemed Christians are judged by their works (Law - please don't tweak that to be anything other than works of the Law), justification by faith is meaningless and Christ died for no purpose.

John 5:24
"Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life.

didn't Jesus say will not be judged?

John 3:18
Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God's one and only Son.

John 3:36
Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God's wrath remains on them.

John 6:47
Very truly I tell you, the one who believes has eternal life.

John 10:28
27"My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me; 28and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand. 29"My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand.

John 11
25Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life; he who believes in Me will live even if he dies, 26 and everyone who lives and believes in Me will never die. Do you believe this?"

Romans 3
Justification by Faith

21But now apart from the Law the righteousness of God has been manifested, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets,22even the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all those who believe; for there is no distinction;23for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,24being justified as a gift by His grace through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus;25whom God displayed publicly as a propitiation in His blood through faith. This was to demonstrate His righteousness, because in the forbearance of God He passed over the sins previously committed;26for the demonstration, I say, of His righteousness at the present time, so that He would be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus.

27Where then is boasting? It is excluded. By what kind of law? Of works? No, but by a law of faith.28For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law.29Or is God the God of Jews only? Is He not the God of Gentiles also? Yes, of Gentiles also,30since indeed God who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through faith is one.

31Do we then nullify the Law through faith? May it never be! On the contrary, we establish the Law.

 

[Jane_doe]

No, it's according to the Word of God. Please see St. James 2:24.

 

[RedTent]

When we think of works, so often we think of the lifestyle that the Jews lived, that Jesus lived, where every part of their day and their holidays was part of their worship of God. We say, with all they did, it meant nothing because we can't make ourselves holy. I 'did" one of those things in my worship, my minister caught me, and boy, did I get told.

I checked to see if the Jews had bad results from how they worshiped. As long as they followed scripture and didn't let their Talmud add too many things to scripture, even without knowing the Messiah had come, the results of their works were even what saved you and I at times in history. When the church didn't affect the people enough in how they lived that the world was violent, during the middle ages, it was the works of the Jews that saved the world, get out your history books!

I've checked the effects on families of these works, it made marriages loving, it kept families together helping each other, it made them careful of their money as they were responsible for each other, it required they be educated even when reading was rare, it kept their hands clean so they didn't get as sick as others, and it kept before their eyes every minute every day that God created them and they owed everything to God. For a people blind to how Christ fulfilled God and made their forgiveness of sin complete, it wasn't a bad deal.

When Paul and Peter went to our gentile ancestors to tell them of the real God and what Christ meant to them, they said it was wonderful but did they have to live like those weird Jews lived? The Jews said they had to, it was part of the deal, and God told Paul the Jews were wrong in that. How wrong it was was the hot item of the day. Our NT is filled with it. We are just eating up every word of it to this day, saying we don't have to do a thing in worship, God does it all. It is true, but I think we are tossing out some other truths about it, too.

We are almost in the same kind of fix as the middle ages. Teen pregnancy, can't depend on marriage, our elderly left out of family, people on the streets, alcoholism, children taught to be self absorbed, no decency standards at all as everything is given way to tolerance, all things of sex completely outside of how God created it, and on and on. TV brings it all into every home. And the church stands firm against any works of worship.

Most of the Jews are leaving God. Most of the church will have nothing to do with any worship that isn't simply mental. But there is a remnant in both that is going back to God. The church is up in arms. They call a church bringing in OT works a root church, and a cult. Some of the root churches are using the works in the wrong way, so they point to those to verify the "cult". I think we should rethink our position, and take it to God.

 

[Least]

Cool, and a good start on separation of what works are:

For me I only want God's works through me where God gets all the credit, such as Moses showed. Noah showed. Abraham showed and Paul showed
Galatians 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

So who does the work's? God or self? my choice is the exchanged life as what Gal 2:20 shows.

It's interesting in your example of those who glorified God, that you mentioned Moses.

All glory does belong to God, without a doubt because it is HIS work. Moses wasn't allowed to enter into the promised land because he didn't glorify God when he struck the rock that brought forth water, As recorded in Numbers 20:12.


All of the people that you mentioned, Moses, Noah, Abraham, (and others,one of my favorites is Elisha.) They all believed God, and they were all faithful. Faith and faithfulness goes hand in hand. (Even though we all fall short, as in the example of Moses.)

After Moses was told that he wouldn't enter into the promised land for not glorifying God in that one instance, Moses did not go around telling the people to disregard God's laws. Moses reiterated the laws over and over.


At one point, in Deuteronomy Ch. 29, Moses calls all of the people of Israel together, and he tells them that God did all of these great things before their eyes in Egypt, and yet, God had not given them the eyes to see and the ear to hear even to that day.

They saw, but they didn't see..."having eyes, they see not, and ears,they hear not."

Galatians 2:19 For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God.
Galatians 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
Galatians 2:21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

Next Chatper:

Galatians 3:5 He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
As with Moses, Paul talks about the miracles that done among them, by faith!

Galatians 3:7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.
Galatians 3:8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

Hebrews 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

Hebrews 11:7 By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.

Noah believed God, and he built the ark. Faith and faithfulness go hand in hand.

Hebrews 11:8 By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went. Again, He believed God and it was accounted to him for righteousness. Not the action of what he did, which WAS obedience because he believed and moved in faith.

Hebrews 11:11 Through faith also Sara herself received strength to conceive seed, and was delivered of a child when she was past age, because she judged him faithful who had promised. Through faith, she received the promise of Isaac.

Hebrews 11:13 These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.

Faith isn't in the Law, but in GOD who gave the law. The names that you mentioned, they all knew this.

Romans 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

The next chapter says this:

Romans 4:1 What shall we say then that Abraham our father, as pertaining to the flesh, hath found?
Romans 4:2 For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God.Romans 4:3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.

Abraham believed God, faith and faithfulness go hand in hand.

 

[homwardbound]

The Word of God makes it very clear we will be judged according to our works. I believe faith without works is dead and profits nothing.

So the ? that remains is what type of works will burn up and what type won't?
! Cor. 3 answers this

 

[homwardbound]

Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

Absolutely, so which side of the fence are we to be on? God's side or self's?

 

[homwardbound]

No, it's according to the Word of God. Please see St. James 2:24.

What are true works and what are false works?

 

[homwardbound]

When we think of works, so often we think of the lifestyle that the Jews lived, that Jesus lived, where every part of their day and their holidays was part of their worship of God. We say, with all they did, it meant nothing because we can't make ourselves holy. I 'did" one of those things in my worship, my minister caught me, and boy, did I get told.

I checked to see if the Jews had bad results from how they worshiped. As long as they followed scripture and didn't let their Talmud add too many things to scripture, even without knowing the Messiah had come, the results of their works were even what saved you and I at times in history. When the church didn't affect the people enough in how they lived that the world was violent, during the middle ages, it was the works of the Jews that saved the world, get out your history books!

I've checked the effects on families of these works, it made marriages loving, it kept families together helping each other, it made them careful of their money as they were responsible for each other, it required they be educated even when reading was rare, it kept their hands clean so they didn't get as sick as others, and it kept before their eyes every minute every day that God created them and they owed everything to God. For a people blind to how Christ fulfilled God and made their forgiveness of sin complete, it wasn't a bad deal.

When Paul and Peter went to our gentile ancestors to tell them of the real God and what Christ meant to them, they said it was wonderful but did they have to live like those weird Jews lived? The Jews said they had to, it was part of the deal, and God told Paul the Jews were wrong in that. How wrong it was was the hot item of the day. Our NT is filled with it. We are just eating up every word of it to this day, saying we don't have to do a thing in worship, God does it all. It is true, but I think we are tossing out some other truths about it, too.

We are almost in the same kind of fix as the middle ages. Teen pregnancy, can't depend on marriage, our elderly left out of family, people on the streets, alcoholism, children taught to be self absorbed, no decency standards at all as everything is given way to tolerance, all things of sex completely outside of how God created it, and on and on. TV brings it all into every home. And the church stands firm against any works of worship.

Most of the Jews are leaving God. Most of the church will have nothing to do with any worship that isn't simply mental. But there is a remnant in both that is going back to God. The church is up in arms. They call a church bringing in OT works a root church, and a cult. Some of the root churches are using the works in the wrong way, so they point to those to verify the "cult". I think we should rethink our position, and take it to God.

Well Sister ever thought, that they lived whether good or bad because of God' promise to Abraham? Food for thought

 

[homwardbound]

It's interesting in your example of those who glorified God, that you mentioned Moses.

All glory does belong to God, without a doubt because it is HIS work. Moses wasn't allowed to enter into the promised land because he didn't glorify God when he struck the rock that brought forth water, As recorded in Numbers 20:12.


All of the people that you mentioned, Moses, Noah, Abraham, (and others,one of my favorites is Elisha.) They all believed God, and they were all faithful. Faith and faithfulness goes hand in hand. (Even though we all fall short, as in the example of Moses.)

After Moses was told that he wouldn't enter into the promised land for not glorifying God in that one instance, Moses did not go around telling the people to disregard God's laws. Moses reiterated the laws over and over.


At one point, in Deuteronomy Ch. 29, Moses calls all of the people of Israel together, and he tells them that God did all of these great things before their eyes in Egypt, and yet, God had not given them the eyes to see and the ear to hear even to that day.

They saw, but they didn't see..."having eyes, they see not, and ears,they hear not."

Galatians 2:19 For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God.
Galatians 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
Galatians 2:21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

Next Chatper:

Galatians 3:5 He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
As with Moses, Paul talks about the miracles that done among them, by faith!

Galatians 3:7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.
Galatians 3:8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

Hebrews 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

Hebrews 11:7 By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.

Noah believed God, and he built the ark. Faith and faithfulness go hand in hand.

Hebrews 11:8 By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went. Again, He believed God and it was accounted to him for righteousness. Not the action of what he did, which WAS obedience because he believed and moved in faith.

Hebrews 11:11 Through faith also Sara herself received strength to conceive seed, and was delivered of a child when she was past age, because she judged him faithful who had promised. Through faith, she received the promise of Isaac.

Hebrews 11:13 These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.

Faith isn't in the Law, but in GOD who gave the law. The names that you mentioned, they all knew this.

Romans 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

The next chapter says this:

Romans 4:1 What shall we say then that Abraham our father, as pertaining to the flesh, hath found?
Romans 4:2 For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God.Romans 4:3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.

Abraham believed God, faith and faithfulness go hand in hand.

and are you in agreement with me as to what I have stated as well to the same here as you stated. I agree with you in what is said here

 

[homwardbound]

It's interesting in your example of those who glorified God, that you mentioned Moses.

All glory does belong to God, without a doubt because it is HIS work. Moses wasn't allowed to enter into the promised land because he didn't glorify God when he struck the rock that brought forth water, As recorded in Numbers 20:12.


All of the people that you mentioned, Moses, Noah, Abraham, (and others,one of my favorites is Elisha.) They all believed God, and they were all faithful. Faith and faithfulness goes hand in hand. (Even though we all fall short, as in the example of Moses.)

After Moses was told that he wouldn't enter into the promised land for not glorifying God in that one instance, Moses did not go around telling the people to disregard God's laws. Moses reiterated the laws over and over.


At one point, in Deuteronomy Ch. 29, Moses calls all of the people of Israel together, and he tells them that God did all of these great things before their eyes in Egypt, and yet, God had not given them the eyes to see and the ear to hear even to that day.

They saw, but they didn't see..."having eyes, they see not, and ears,they hear not."

Galatians 2:19 For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God.
Galatians 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
Galatians 2:21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

Next Chatper:

Galatians 3:5 He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
As with Moses, Paul talks about the miracles that done among them, by faith!

Galatians 3:7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.
Galatians 3:8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

Hebrews 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

Hebrews 11:7 By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.

Noah believed God, and he built the ark. Faith and faithfulness go hand in hand.

Hebrews 11:8 By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went. Again, He believed God and it was accounted to him for righteousness. Not the action of what he did, which WAS obedience because he believed and moved in faith.

Hebrews 11:11 Through faith also Sara herself received strength to conceive seed, and was delivered of a child when she was past age, because she judged him faithful who had promised. Through faith, she received the promise of Isaac.

Hebrews 11:13 These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.

Faith isn't in the Law, but in GOD who gave the law. The names that you mentioned, they all knew this.

Romans 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

The next chapter says this:

Romans 4:1 What shall we say then that Abraham our father, as pertaining to the flesh, hath found?
Romans 4:2 For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God.Romans 4:3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.

Abraham believed God, faith and faithfulness go hand in hand.

Maybe you have misread what I quoted, not sure, yet thanks I know it is by Faith in Christ and through Christ I have received from God a gift od new life here and now in the Spirit of God, God getting all the credit.
And God produces in me God's works of Love that no flesh can produce 1 Cor. 13:4-13

 

[brmicke]

The phrase works vs grace is deceptive. Because grace is what teaches us to do the works. Grace teaches us to abstain from ungodliness, titus 2:11-12.

If we accomplish anything for God it is because He is doing it and letting us be a part of it.

Isa 26:12 ¶ LORD, thou wilt ordain peace for us: for thou also hast wrought all our works in us.

Joh 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

Jesus Himself said "the Father in Him did the works. So maybe we should ask God to "work" through us to bring others to Christ.

Pr 24:12 If thou sayest, Behold, we knew it not; doth not he that pondereth the heart consider it? and he that keepeth thy soul,
doth not he know it? and shall not he render to every man according to his works?

Since God does the work through us and then rewards or disciplines us for that work we should pray that God would be in us to will and do for His good pleasure, Phil 2:13.

Php 2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.

God does the work through us. We simply ask that His will be done through us and try an cooperate with Him, Thy Kingdom Come Thy Will be done on earth...

By the way we should also pray this way - God please keep me from sinning against you.

Brian

 

[Least]

Maybe you have misread what I quoted, not sure, yet thanks I know it is by Faith in Christ and through Christ I have received from God a gift od new life here and now in the Spirit of God, God getting all the credit.
And God produces in me God's works of Love that no flesh can produce 1 Cor. 13:4-13

My apologies.

I made an assumption without knowing where you stand, and I shouldn't do that.

And I agree, I want to walk in that kind of faith that Moses, Noah, Abraham and Paul walked in, yet I still battle with the flesh at times. Still, I know there's a process, and for me right now, applying the word to my life through faith in Christ is most important. Not because I think the work of applying the word will save me. But because I believe God.

Romans 12:1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.
Romans 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

Thank you for your response.

 

[homwardbound]

My apologies.

I made an assumption without knowing where you stand, and I shouldn't do that.

And I agree, I want to walk in that kind of faith that Moses, Noah, Abraham and Paul walked in, yet I still battle with the flesh at times. Still, I know there's a process, and for me right now, applying the word to my life through faith in Christ is most important. Not because I think the work of applying the word will save me. But because I believe God.

Romans 12:1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.
Romans 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

Thank you for your response.

And thank you back, we all are daily growing in God's amazing grace. learning from God how to actually trust God in saying no to unrighteousness, giving God all the credit for this amazing ability to say NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! to unrighteousness, For it is God that does it for us if we will exchange our lives self, with Christ.
Look at Phil 3 read it slowly and see the doorway to life through being dead to self. God will show you and you will be absolutely amazed in it being all God and none of us ever.
To God be all the glory!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[brmicke]

And thank you back, we all are daily growing in God's amazing grace. learning from God how to actually trust God in saying no to unrighteousness, giving God all the credit for this amazing ability to say NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! to unrighteousness, For it is God that does it for us if we will exchange our lives self, with Christ.
Look at Phil 3 read it slowly and see the doorway to life through being dead to self. God will show you and you will be absolutely amazed in it being all God and none of us ever.
To God be all the glory!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Absolutely brother the mystery of Godliness is great - Christ in you and I.

 

[Laodicea]

Here is another
1 John 3:8 KJV
(8) He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

Jesus came to destroy the works of the devil.