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freeman4
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You are being facetious now. As the 7th. day comes where ever you live, observe it. They do the same on Sunday.
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freeman4
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josh123
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prove to me by the scriptures that the gentiles were mean't to observe the sabbath if you can and i will prove to you that it was mean't for the jews, the gentiles are the none believers.. when we accept christ jesus as our lord and savior then on eyes get open up...that's all we have to do and tell me this? can you even follow all 10 commandments PERFECTLY everywhere none of you that i've ask that question can anwser meExactly right, that is the way the World see it, do what ever you want.That is not Gods way.
Will Jesus send people to hell if they can't afford two lambs every Sabbath? Not all of us are that rich you know.
Num 28:9 And on the sabbath day two lambs of the first year without spot, and two tenth deals of flour for a meat offering, mingled with oil, and the drink offering thereof: 10 This is the burnt offering of every sabbath, beside the continual burnt offering, and his drink offering.
Do you still not understand the book of Hebrews?
Heb 7:27 Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up himself.
Heb 9:1 Then verily the first covenant had also ordinances of divine service, and a worldly sanctuary.
Heb 9:2 For there was a tabernacle made; the first, wherein was the candlestick, and the table, and the shewbread; which is called the sanctuary.
Heb 9:3 And after the second veil, the tabernacle which is called the Holiest of all;
Heb 9:4 Which had the golden censer, and the ark of the covenant overlaid round about with gold, wherein was the golden pot that had manna, and Aaron's rod that budded, and the tables of the covenant;
Heb 9:5 And over it the cherubims of glory shadowing the mercyseat; of which we cannot now speak particularly.
Heb 9:6 Now when these things were thus ordained, the priests went always into the first tabernacle, accomplishing the service of God.
Heb 9:7 But into the second went the high priest alone once every year, not without blood, which he offered for himself, and for the errors of the people:
Heb 9:8 The Holy Ghost this signifying, that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while as the first tabernacle was yet standing:
Heb 9:9 Which was a figure for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience;
Heb 9:10 Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation.
Heb 9:11 But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building;
Heb 9:12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.
Heb 9:13 For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh:
Heb 9:14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
Now these were the schoolmaster to lead us to Christ...
Gal 3:23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
Gal 3:24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
Gal 3:25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
Gal 3:26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
Hebrews explains this brief comment by Paul. Put ALL the scriptures together before drawing a conclusion.
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adventbeliever
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The moral law was and still is our "schoolmaster" to lead us to Christ and once we are in Christ we are no longer under the law, that is, under its condemnation until we break it again.
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josh123
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leads us to christ because we don't know how to keep it, that's why the law is there to show us that we can't keep it and we need god to live holy in us.The moral law was and still is our "schoolmaster" to lead us to Christ and once we are in Christ we are no longer under the law, that is, under its condemnation until we break it again.
leads us to christ because we don't know how to keep it, that's why the law is there to show us that we can't keep it and we need god to live holy in us.
You don't know how to keep this?
Exo 20:13 Thou shalt not kill.
or this?
Exo 20:14 Thou shalt not commit adultery.
or this?
Exo 20:15 Thou shalt not steal.
Worship God in your heart everyday and in all things. Go to church whenever you want.
Yep do what ever you want...
Pro 14:12 There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.
Repeated for good measure...
Pro 16:25 There is a way that seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.
An old memory scripture.
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josh123
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do you know how to keep all the " commandments " perfectlyYou don't know how to keep this?
Exo 20:13 Thou shalt not kill.
or this?
Exo 20:14 Thou shalt not commit adultery.
or this?
Exo 20:15 Thou shalt not steal.
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danschance
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Yep do what ever you want...
Pro 14:12 There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.
Repeated for good measure...
Pro 16:25 There is a way that seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.
An old memory scripture.
See! I knew there was going to be a good old fashioned Seventh Day Adventist guilt trip at some point, I just knew it! SDA's just can't undue all that programming overnight.
See! I knew there was going to be a good old fashioned Seventh Day Adventist guilt trip at some point, I just knew it! SDA's just can't undue all that programming overnight.
Only problem is I am not an SDA but I have told you that before.
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danschance
Guest
..and for an encore maybe we can hear about how attending church on Sunday is the mark of the beast. LOL
Everyt ime a SDA's says you can't go to church on Sunday they violate this scripture. Sad aint it?
Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Col. 2:16
Everyt ime a SDA's says you can't go to church on Sunday they violate this scripture. Sad aint it?
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danschance
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Only problem is I am not an SDA but I have told you that before.
John you could of fooled me.
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josh123
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i've never seen anything like this in my life.. i'm trying to persuade people to do the right thing and the bible proves that it is the right thing and none of you cannot prove to me that what you are doing is correct you can't even get pass exodus.. still living in the pass i guess this is the egyptian days and your the " jews " who were under bondage in egypt and jesus didn't die for our sins yet... i'm too frustrated to continue this... gonna actually talk to people who doesn't ignore the truth and do what is right in their own eyes but is displeasing to god
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danschance
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danschance
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i've never seen anything like this in my life.. i'm trying to persuade people to do the right thing and the bible proves that it is the right thing and none of you cannot prove to me that what you are doing is correct you can't even get pass exodus.. still living in the pass i guess this is the egyptian days and your the " jews " who were under bondage in egypt and jesus didn't die for our sins yet... i'm too frustrated to continue this... gonna actually talk to people who doesn't ignore the truth and do what is right in their own eyes but is displeasing to god
That is because this is more than a mindset. It is a religious spirit similar to what the pharisees had. The pharisees accused Jesus of breaking the sabbath, casting demons out of people by using demons and of blasphemy and each time they did this they felt they were doing God's will.
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josh123
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what's even worst we suppose to be looking out for each other so we all end up in the right place.. and make sure we are doing the right thing to end up here... i'm trying to tell you to accept christ in your heart and let he live the life for u and me and your trying to tell me to be " religious " on a certain day and that is going save me... which one seems like the right thing to do.. and if you tell me that is the commandments we must keep their is tons of scriptures that prove it was the jews in the first place and the 10 commandment was abolished and god made a new covenant with the jews
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danschance
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Look at Paul! He was running around the countryside looking for Christians to murder and felt he was doing God a favor! You think you could explained to him that he was doing wrong? Not a chance.
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danschance
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Seventh day keeping is all about legalism with the work of Christ being just a tiny footnote in their minds.