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ChosenbyHim

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One other thing Twill, you can verify these codes by going to this website and downloading the Free King James Pure Bible Search software.


King James Pure Bible Search


I downloaded it, and I use this software a lot. It is really cool to just type in any word that is in the Authorized Version and to see how many times that that specific word appears in the Holy Bible.

You can also download the Quick Verse software as it has also been proven to be a very accurate word counting software.
 

Agricola

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Your a blind witch, serving your father Satan and like the Catholic you are hate the KJV, just like the anti christ pope and the bloodthirsty catholics before you. Your a servant of the pope, good bye
I have told you countless times I do not hate the King James Bible, I use the King James Bible, I just object to the deluded followers of the King James Only cult like yourself and ChosenbyHim. The language you use here is definitly that of a cult, spewing hate and venom against anyone who is perceived to be against the cult and its teachings.
 
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To all people who are looking to cc to understand Christianity: Please know that hate is of the devil and when any principle of God is used by anyone to express hate for others it is demons entering, for that side of life is of hate. Demons work for hate, just as God works for love.

We disagree a lot in the church, and that is good. It is hard to determine just what God wants of us. Demons are drawn to the church because it represents what is against them, so they use these discussions to make the church stand for hate. When demons win and discussion becomes hate, don't listen. It is not of God. Make note of any poster using hate and cancel anything they say as being of God. They are being used by the devil.
 
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Twill, you should check out the King James Code. This was written by Brother Mike Hoggard several years ago. But definitely check it out. It is very neat. It shows the Numerical Codes and Patterns that can be found in the Authorized King James Bible. Testifying that it is the absolute perfect and inerrant word of God. I'll share some of the Numerical patterns first in this post, and then I'll give you the link so you can check out the rest of these Numerical Bible codes.

Number Symbolic Meaning

Excerpt from Mike Hoggard's book: The King James Code
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[TD="width: 98%, align: left"]Unity, Beginnings
Union, Division, Witnessing
Resurrection, Divine Completeness
Creation, World, Worldliness
Grace, God’s Goodness, Redemption (a number associated with the Rapture)
Weakness of Man — Evils of Satan — Manifestation of Sin
Completeness, Spiritual Perfection
New Birth, New Creation, New Beginning
Fruit of the Spirit, Fruit bearing
The Word of God, Law and Responsibility, Kingship
Judgement and Disorder
Governmental Perfection, The Gentile Church and the Jewish Church
Depravity and Rebellion, The Beast
Deliverance or Salvation, Multiple of 7
Rest, The Sum of 8 and 7, the Product of 3 and 5
Love
Victory
Bondage
Faith, Sum of 10 and 9.
Expectancy, 2 Compounded by 10
Product of 7 and 3, Fullness
Light, Revelation, Spiritual Knowledge, 2 Compounded and Repeated
Multiple of 3 and 10, Compound of their meanings.
3 Compounded and Repeated
Probation, Testing, Purification
Product of 7 and 6, A number of CompletionCompounded Perfection, 7 times 7.
Holy Spirit, 5 Compounded by 10
5 Compounded and Repeated
Pride
The Earthly House of God, 6 Compounded and Repeated
Compounded Perfection, 7 times 10




The Number Three

The number 3 is the number of divine completion and resurrection. Three is the number for the Godhead. It should be mentioned that the term "trinity" is not a Bible term. The only term used to describe the persons of God is the word "Godhead." I John 5:7 declares to us that there are 3 persons in this Godhead, (unless you have an NIV). So it comes as no surprise that the word itself, "Godhead" is found only 3 times in the Scriptures.
(Acts 17:29) "Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device."
(Rom 1:20) "For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:"
(Col 2:9) "For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily."
Since the number 3 is the number for resurrection, it would stand to reason that it would be associated with being born again. It is. The phrase that Jesus himself used to describe salvation, "born again" is found exactly 3 times in the AV, and each time it is in reference to the number 3 either in chapter or verse.
(John 3:3) "Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."
(John 3:7) "Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again."
(1 Pet 1:23) "Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever."
Along with this same theme of resurrection lets look at a verse in the Bible that talks about resurrection.
(Rom 1:4) "And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:"

In this passage, Paul clearly points out that the power of Christ and of salvation was not manifested on the cross, but manifested by His resurrection from the dead. We serve a living Savior, and all who are followers of Him, and have been born again also receive this resurrection from the dead. We were once dead in our sins, but now we are made alive in Christ Jesus. This phrase "resurrection from the dead", is found exactly 3 times, all of them in the New Testament. Here are the other two occurrences.
(Luke 20:35) "But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:"
(Acts 4:2) "Being grieved that they taught the people, and preached through Jesus the resurrection from the dead."

A few years ago, Dallas Holm sang a song that became one of the best loved songs in modern Christianity. The title of his song was "Rise Again". He took this title directly from the scriptures. It was a song about the resurrection of Jesus Christ. This phrase is to be found 9(3x3) times in the New Testament.

The Number Four

The number 4 is the number for the world, creation, and worldliness. This section will be devoted to this theme, and the pattern associated with this theme.
In the very first verse of the Bible, we find that God spells out exactly what His creation consists of.
(Gen 1:1) "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth."
These two words, "heaven" and "earth" are found together in the same verse a total of 156 times. This breaks down to 4x39. When we search for the exact four word phrase that is used in Genesis 1:1, we find that it is found exactly 4 times in the Authorized Version.
(Gen 1:1) "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth."
(2 Sam 18:9) "And Absalom met the servants of David. And Absalom rode upon a mule, and the mule went under the thick boughs of a great oak, and his head caught hold of the oak, and he was taken up between the heaven and the earth; and the mule that was under him went away."
(Jer 32:17) "Ah Lord GOD! behold, thou hast made the heaven and the earth by thy great power and stretched out arm, and there is nothing too hard for thee:"
(Jer 51:48) "Then the heaven and the earth, and all that is therein, shall sing for Babylon: for the spoilers shall come unto her from the north, saith the LORD."
It is also one of the great doctrines of the faith, that one of these days, God will create a New Heaven and a New Earth. In fact it is mentioned 4 times in the scriptures that this will occur.
(Isa 65:17) "For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind."
(Isa 66:22) "For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain."
(2 Pet 3:13) "Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness."
(Rev 21:1) "And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea."
In the first section of this book, we noted that Genesis 4 displayed the theme of the world and worldliness. It should also be noted that the word "ground", pertaining to the earth itself, is found 4 times in Genesis 4. It is also interesting to note that the one person who symbolized the lineage of worldliness, Cain, is found 16 (4x4) times in Genesis 4.

The Number Five

The number 5 is, without a doubt, the number for grace and redemption. It is the number that is associated with the future translation of the Church. All of these themes can be discovered in the Authorized Version of the Bible.
First we find, that the 5[SUP]th[/SUP] time Noah’s name is mentioned, it is mentioned with Grace.
(Gen 6:8) "But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD."
It might also be mentioned that Noah was 500 years old, when he begat the lineage that was to repopulate the earth after the flood. The first time Noah’s name is mentioned is in Genesis chapter 5. The Bible tells us that the flood waters prevailed on the earth for exactly 150days. This breaks down to 5 months. You may have noticed that in the King James Bible, Noah’s name is spelled differently in the Gospels, but not in Hebrews, or the two epistles of Peter. In the Gospels it is spelled "Noe." Did you ever wonder why? Maybe it has something to do with the fact that his name spelled this way exactly 5 times. The last time Noah’s name is ever mentioned is in II Peter chapter 2 verse 5. The 40 day time period that it rained on the earth is found 5 times in the book of Genesis, the last time being found in chapter 50.
Now, let’s look at a phrase in the Bible that is associated with grace.
(Acts 20:24) "But none of these things move me, neither count I my life dear unto myself, so that I might finish my course with joy, and the ministry, which I have received of the Lord Jesus, to testify the gospel of the grace of God."

Through this and other verses, we understand that true grace is God’s grace. It is his unmerited favor to all who will receive it. This phrase "grace of God" is found in two forms; "grace of God" and "grace of our God". Together, they are found in 25 (5x5) verses, exclusively in the New Testament.
Our Savior is associated with the number 5. In Isaiah, he is given 5 titles. (Isa 9:6) "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace." He arrived on this earth at the beginning of the 5[SUP]th[/SUP] millenium from Adam. As the number for Antichrist is 666, the number for Christ is 555. Why? The word "Christ" is found exactly 555 times in the Bible! The first occurrence is Matthew 1:1, the first verse of the New Testament, and in Revelation 22:21, the last verse of the New Testament, literally, he is the first and the last. His title as the "only begotten son" is found exactly 5 times in the Bible.

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Thanks! Maybe I'll look into it!
 

ChosenbyHim

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Thanks! Maybe I'll look into it!
Absolutely Twill, you are welcome. The King James Code is absolutely fascinating. The King James Bible is indeed a supernatural Book. It is God's pure and perfect word. Amen.
 
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Can someone please ban KJVBibleCatOwner already?
 

homwardbound

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To all people who are looking to cc to understand Christianity: Please know that hate is of the devil and when any principle of God is used by anyone to express hate for others it is demons entering, for that side of life is of hate. Demons work for hate, just as God works for love.

We disagree a lot in the church, and that is good. It is hard to determine just what God wants of us. Demons are drawn to the church because it represents what is against them, so they use these discussions to make the church stand for hate. When demons win and discussion becomes hate, don't listen. It is not of God. Make note of any poster using hate and cancel anything they say as being of God. They are being used by the devil.
I like what you posted, yet please remember, these that get caught up in the hate, might be a child of God, and temporary side tracked away from God's type of Love sister. So let's pray for all. For I know God is able to get those that are sidetracked back on track as God says so in Romans 14
 

Agricola

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Thanks! Maybe I'll look into it!
DO not be fooled into thinking its really is a King James thing, this cult want you to believe that in order to suck you into their belief and ridiculous claim that the King James of 1611 is the only perfect Bible, that all other bibles before it and after it are written by Satan and should be burned leaving the King James 1611 as the only Bible on the planet.

Sad thing is, the King James bible is a good bible, but this cult have based a whole new sect based on it, which they have become obsessed with, even to point of calling genuine Christians evil heretics who will burn in hell for failing to stop using versions like the NIV.

You have been warned.
 
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richie_2uk

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Don't be fooled by carrying on with a thread who wrote this OP has been banned. why waste your time? I think those who has been banned, I think all there threads should go too. as it will clean the site cache more. and will give chance for people to reply or answer threads that are still alive. Just a suggestion.
 

ChosenbyHim

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Twill, don't mind Agricola. We who believe that the Authorized King James Bible is God's perfect word also understand that there are a lot of Christians out there who are ignorant of the Bible Version Issue.

Understand that there are extremes on both sides of the issue. But I do not teach nor do I know of any genuine King James Bible believer who believes that Christians will not go to heaven if they continue to use an NIV. Christians have eternal security. What settles a person's eternal destination is whether or not that person accepts the Lord Jesus Christ as their persona Lord and Saviour.

Now is it wrong once you learn about the Bible Version Issue to continue to use the new versions and to defend them? Yes it is wrong. And those Christians who know about the real issue and continue to persist in their error will answer for it at the Judgment Seat of Christ.

Having said that; again, there are a lot of genuine Christians out there who just do not know the Bible Version Issue, so there will be some grace there. Several years back, I used an NIV and an NLT for a while. But when I learned the truth, I bought myself a King James Bible and started reading and studying from it only.

But yeah definitely check out the King James Code and the Bible Numerics Phenomenon. It's really unique. And I saw it as just more proof that God's perfect and pure word is the Authorized King James Bible.
 
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richie_2uk

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and this argument still lives on even when the OP has been banned? so one wonders? is elvis really dead? lol
 

Nautilus

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C.S. Lewis never got banned from CC. Who is the heathen Now?

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I hear a lot of C.S. Lewis quotes myself. Many who quote him, also quote from The Messege
by Eugene Peterson.
 

Agricola

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Now is it wrong once you learn about the Bible Version Issue to continue to use the new versions and to defend them? Yes it is wrong. And those Christians who know about the real issue and continue to persist in their error will answer for it at the Judgment Seat of Christ.
What a load of nonsense. This cult and all its members should be banned from CC for such evil comments. Its ridiculous and outrageous to make these comments.
 
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Christianity, if false, is of no importance, and, if true, of infinite importance. The one thing it cannot be is moderately important."

—C.S. Lewis

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Twill, don't mind Agricola. We who believe that the Authorized King James Bible is God's perfect word also understand that there are a lot of Christians out there who are ignorant of the Bible Version Issue.

Understand that there are extremes on both sides of the issue. But I do not teach nor do I know of any genuine King James Bible believer who believes that Christians will not go to heaven if they continue to use an NIV. Christians have eternal security. What settles a person's eternal destination is whether or not that person accepts the Lord Jesus Christ as their persona Lord and Saviour.

Now is it wrong once you learn about the Bible Version Issue to continue to use the new versions and to defend them? Yes it is wrong. And those Christians who know about the real issue and continue to persist in their error will answer for it at the Judgment Seat of Christ.

Having said that; again, there are a lot of genuine Christians out there who just do not know the Bible Version Issue, so there will be some grace there. Several years back, I used an NIV and an NLT for a while. But when I learned the truth, I bought myself a King James Bible and started reading and studying from it only.

But yeah definitely check out the King James Code and the Bible Numerics Phenomenon. It's really unique. And I saw it as just more proof that God's perfect and pure word is the Authorized King James Bible.
I have some questions, I see you have expertise in the "Bible Version Issue".

(1) What, exactly, is a King James Bible? Which revision: 1611, 1762 Cambridge, 1769 Oxford, or another revision? Why?

(2) If the KJV was perfect in 1611, why update it at all, since you describe the 1611 revision as "God's perfect and pure word"?

(3) Are the 1762 Cambridge and 1769 Oxford "new versions"? Do you defend them or use only the 1611?

(4) Is it the gospel of Iohn or the gospel of John?

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Both of the following are from the King James Bible. If both are perfect and pure, then why are they different?

Iohn 1:12 But as many as receiued him, to them gaue hee power to become the sonnes of God, [euen] to them that beleeue on his Name: (KJV 1611)

John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, [even] to them that believe on his name: (KJV PCE)

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AgeofKnowledge

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I use the New American Standard, New King James, and New International Versions the most on forums like these but I also reference the original texts in the languages they were authored.

Thomas Nelson did a super job with the New King James Version and if I had to pick only one Bible to be imprisoned with, I suppose it would be that one though I find myself quoting the New American Standard much more often on this forum.
 

ChosenbyHim

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What a load of nonsense. This cult and all its members should be banned from CC for such evil comments. Its ridiculous and outrageous to make these comments.

Agricola, it is a reality. We've discussed this before. The Bible Version Issue is one of the most important issues facing the church today. Because it is solely about the Final Written Authority.

We are accountable for the amount of truth we've been shown. The people who live in America will be more accountable in the Day of Judgment than those who lived in isolated areas like Easter Island (Rapa Nui).

And why? Because the people in America have received more light than those in the remote areas. In America, although at times you have to search a good while, you can still find the real Gospel being preached, whether it be on radio or even television. With internet, mobile, and other technology, people in America can access the preaching of the Gospel almost instantly. A good example of this would be Sermonaudio.com and Youtube.


Also, it is not about preference. What you prefer or what I prefer. The most important question anyone can ask is do we have God's pure words today? And is there absolute truth? And the answer is yes to both. We do have God's pure words and they are the absolute truth.