Zimmerman Trial....divisive or definitive?

[DragonSlayer]

Well...I was not a witness of what really happened about the Martin-Zimmerman case...and the evidence given seems not sufficient to make Zimmerman guilty or innocent in my view because we don't know what really happens...I can remember it's written somewhere in the Scriptures that a man will be judged by his reputation...so even if there is no sufficient proof about what really happened, the reputation is a good indicator about what could have really happened...but only the Lord perfectly knows what really happened...

In the beginning, I was willing to believe Trayvor was the victim and Zimmerman was the stalking attacker, but I didn't know some african-american were able to commit such unthinkable and abominable crimes such as with the case of Christopher Newsom and Channon Christian...I feel defiled deep inside myself just to read about such unthinkable heinous abominations committed by african-americans ! I can't find the right words to express how I feel...those things are not humans anymore they are worse than beasts ! I wish the Lord will punish them according to their own deeds in their current life already !

There is no black or white. After the flood, there was one race and one language in the whole world before the rebellion of Nimrod in Babylon at the tower of Babel took place.

And at the first resurrection there will be one race and one language again with Jesus as the New Adam...

 

[DragonSlayer]

Well...I looked up closely at the evidence and at the testimonies given, and it appeared G. Zimmerman is hiding something and made up a believable story to cover his real tracks...the testimonies of G.Zimmerman are contradictory and he's a liar and is guilty...right now there is just not enough direct evidence to convict him but soon or later the whole truth will be known about what really happened...so it appeared Trayvon Martin was innocent in this case...

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

Please share it. Someone once told me they saw a purple spotted unicorn breathing pink cotton candy out of it's mouth running through the forest. But they were unable to provide me with a single shred of evidence, other than their word, that such a creature exists...

While we're waiting...

[video=youtube_share;w0yy70cb9oQ]http://youtu.be/w0yy70cb9oQ[/video]

Well...I looked up closely at the evidence and at the testimonies given, and it appeared G. Zimmerman is hiding something and made up a believable story to cover his real tracks...the testimonies of G.Zimmerman are contradictory and he's a liar and is guilty...right now there is just not enough direct evidence to convict him but soon or later the whole truth will be known about what really happened...so it appeared Trayvon Martin was innocent in this case...

 

[SonInMe]

The attorney general was so adamant about convicting Zimmerman, not only did she arrest him, when the chief of police could not find enough evidence to arrest Zimmerman, she tried to keep evidence from the defense team. That just does not sound like Zimmerman had to come up with a cover story. Kinda sounds like no evidence existed in the first place and the true reason for the arrest and trial was pure unadulterated politics.

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

Teens charged after allegedly killing Australian student in Oklahoma for the 'fun of it'

Where Obama, Jackson, and Sharpton at?

Teens charged after allegedly killing Australian student in Oklahoma for the 'fun of it' | Fox News

[video=youtube_share;GdAq7k12oxU]http://youtu.be/GdAq7k12oxU[/video]

 

[Praus]

But don't you think that we need the Ann Coulters to bring in a balance so that people don't fall off the other side of the spectrum? Just a thought.

Better to keep people like Ann Coulter out in the open so we know who they are.

"We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. .... We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That's war. And this is war." --Ann Coulter, 9/14/2001

Ann Coulter | Ann says Islamic nations should be christianized | Event view

 

[Praus]

Teens charged after allegedly killing Australian student in Oklahoma for the 'fun of it'

Where Obama, Jackson, and Sharpton at?

Teens charged after allegedly killing Australian student in Oklahoma for the 'fun of it' | Fox News

White privilege (or white skin privilege) refers to the set of societal privileges that white people are argued to benefit from beyond those commonly experienced by people of color in the same social, political, or economic spaces (nation, community, workplace, income, etc.). The term denotes both obvious and less obvious unspoken advantages that white individuals may not recognize they have, which distinguishes it from overt bias or prejudice. These include cultural affirmations of one's own worth; greater presumed social status; and freedom to move, buy, work, play, and speak freely. The concept of white privilege also implies the right to assume the universality of one's own experiences, marking others as different or exceptional while perceiving oneself as normal. It can be compared and/or combined with the concept of male privilege.

White privilege - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[SonInMe]

White privilege (or white skin privilege) refers to the set of societal privileges that white people are argued to benefit from beyond those commonly experienced by people of color in the same social, political, or economic spaces (nation, community, workplace, income, etc.). The term denotes both obvious and less obvious unspoken advantages that white individuals may not recognize they have, which distinguishes it from overt bias or prejudice. These include cultural affirmations of one's own worth; greater presumed social status; and freedom to move, buy, work, play, and speak freely. The concept of white privilege also implies the right to assume the universality of one's own experiences, marking others as different or exceptional while perceiving oneself as normal. It can be compared and/or combined with the concept of male privilege.

White privilege - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Other than a few stupid people, and you always have them, the ideal of white privilege is dead.

It IS dead institutionally by law.

White privilege is a minority ideology more than its a white ideology. Its called...

bigotry.

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

WP is a bunch of reverse racist nonsense concocted by ethnic studies professors who live off U.S. tax dollars. Half of those living in poverty in the U.S. are non-Hispanic whites who have less access to social services than non-whites and no access to affirmative action programs, grants, etc..:

Income, Poverty and Health Insurance Coverage in the United States: 2010 - Income & Wealth - Newsroom - U.S. Census Bureau

 

[Praus]

Other than a few stupid people, and you always have them, the ideal of white privilege is dead.

It IS dead institutionally by law.

The jury disagrees.

White Supremacy Acquits George Zimmerman | The Nation

"When Zimmerman was acquitted today, it wasn't because he’s a so-called white Hispanic. He’s not. It’s because he abides by the logic of white supremacy, and was supported by a defense team—and a swath of society—that supports the lingering idea that some black men must occasionally be killed with impunity in order to keep society-at-large safe."

"People will take to the streets, and with good reason. They’ll be there because they know that, yes, some people do always get away—and it tends to be those strapped with guns and the logic of white supremacy at their side."

White privilege is a minority ideology more than its a white ideology. Its called...

bigotry.

Bigotry is correct, denial doesn't help us evolve socially.

"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character." --MLK

American Rhetoric: Martin Luther King, Jr. - I Have a Dream

 

[JimJimmers]

The jury disagrees.

White Supremacy Acquits George Zimmerman | The Nation

"When Zimmerman was acquitted today, it wasn't because he’s a so-called white Hispanic. He’s not. It’s because he abides by the logic of white supremacy, and was supported by a defense team—and a swath of society—that supports the lingering idea that some black men must occasionally be killed with impunity in order to keep society-at-large safe."

"People will take to the streets, and with good reason. They’ll be there because they know that, yes, some people do always get away—and it tends to be those strapped with guns and the logic of white supremacy at their side."



Bigotry is correct, denial doesn't help us evolve socially.

"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character." --MLK

American Rhetoric: Martin Luther King, Jr. - I Have a Dream

Woah, that link from The Nation is...out there. The author says: a black man is killed every twenty-eight hours by a cop or vigilante. But then the link plainly says it's one every 36 hours, and the link includes police shootings of armed suspects. I think she has some issues she needs to work through, she seems mentally imbalanced.

 

[Praus]

WP is a bunch of reverse racist nonsense concocted by ethnic studies professors who live off U.S. tax dollars. Half of those living in poverty in the U.S. are non-Hispanic whites who have less access to social services than non-whites and no access to affirmative action programs, grants, etc..:

Income, Poverty and Health Insurance Coverage in the United States: 2010 - Income & Wealth - Newsroom - U.S. Census Bureau

All forms of reverse racism are racism also, the solution doesn't lie that way. But it's not relevant to the subject of white privilege, it's a related but different problem.

From the link you provided to Table B. People in Poverty - 2009
White 29,830
White, not Hispanic 18,530
Black 9,944
Asian 1,746
Hispanic origin 12,350

From Table 10. Resident Population by Race, Hispanic Origin, and Age: 2009
http://www.census.gov/compendia/statab/2012/tables/12s0010.pdf
White alone 244,298
Not Hispanic White alone 199,851
Black or African American alone 39,641
Asian alone 14,014
Hispanic origin 48,419

Why did you post a link to raw data without running basic statistics on the numbers? Isn't that more helpful than "nonsense concocted by ethnic studies professors who live off U.S. tax dollars"?

Percentage of People in Poverty - 2009
White 29,830 / 244,298 = 12.2%
White, not Hispanic 18,530 / 199,851 = 9.2%
Black 9,944 / 39,641 = 25.1%
Asian 1,746 / 14,014 = 12.4%
Hispanic origin 12,350 / 48,419 = 25.5%

The definition of white privilege again:

White privilege (or white skin privilege) refers to the set of societal privileges that white people are argued to benefit from beyond those commonly experienced by people of color in the same social, political, or economic spaces (nation, community, workplace, income, etc.). The term denotes both obvious and less obvious unspoken advantages that white individuals may not recognize they have, which distinguishes it from overt bias or prejudice. These include cultural affirmations of one's own worth; greater presumed social status; and freedom to move, buy, work, play, and speak freely. The concept of white privilege also implies the right to assume the universality of one's own experiences, marking others as different or exceptional while perceiving oneself as normal. It can be compared and/or combined with the concept of male privilege.

 

[Praus]

Woah, that link from The Nation is...out there. The author says: a black man is killed every twenty-eight hours by a cop or vigilante. But then the link plainly says it's one every 36 hours, and the link includes police shootings of armed suspects. I think she has some issues she needs to work through, she seems mentally imbalanced.

"the link plainly says it's one every 36 hours"

Sound like American mass media to me! They're part of the problem, not part of the solution.

More reason to cling tighter to our Bibles.

"she seems mentally imbalanced"

Lying and mentally imbalanced mass media figures? We were warned about this back in 1976 and treated it as satire.

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I've already moved out of America twice and came back, I'm done with that. Here I stand. God bless America!

 

[SonInMe]

Percentage of People in Poverty - 2009
White 29,830 / 244,298 = 12.2%
White, not Hispanic 18,530 / 199,851 = 9.2%
Black 9,944 / 39,641 = 25.1%
Asian 1,746 / 14,014 = 12.4%
Hispanic origin 12,350 / 48,419 = 25.5%

Just look at two of the biggest voting blocks for democrats...yep, blacks and hispanics.

So...how's that democrat party doin' ya?

amazing

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

Neat breakdown Praus. Thank you for showing that more white people, per capita, finish their education and apply for work or better yet become self-employed rather than drop out of school and live off welfare. And they do it despite people like you deriding them for it with your white privilege myth. I say bravo for them. Why don't you take your race baiting somewhere else. You're starting to sound like a cry baby racist.

 

[Praus]

Percentage of People in Poverty - 2009
White 29,830 / 244,298 = 12.2%
White, not Hispanic 18,530 / 199,851 = 9.2%
Black 9,944 / 39,641 = 25.1%
Asian 1,746 / 14,014 = 12.4%
Hispanic origin 12,350 / 48,419 = 25.5%

Just look at two of the biggest voting blocks for democrats...yep, blacks and hispanics.

Other than a few stupid people, and you always have them, the ideal of white privilege is dead.

The topic is white privilege, not US political parties. In debate the idea is that you defend the statement "the ideal of white privilege is dead", not change the topic.

So...how's that democrat party doin' ya?
amazing

Same as the other guys, except worse. The delight of bashing Obama below, but the topic is white privilege in the US, not Democrat, Republican, or Obama.

President Obama promised to shut down the Guantánamo Bay Detention Facility during his first presidential campaign. But five years later, the controversial prison remains open. The Obama administration finally shut down something today, but the move will only frustrate civil libertarians even more. Because with Guantánamo's closure still indefinitely delayed, the office responsible for closing the prison has itself been closed.

June 24, 2007: The Associated Press's Elizabeth White reports on a speech by Presidential hopeful Barack Obama, then a junior Illinois Senator, to a crowd in Texas. "We're going to close Guantanamo. And we're going to restore habeas corpus," Obama says. "We're going to lead by example—not just by word but by deed. That's our vision for the future."

April 23, 2011: The plan to prosecute September 11th mastermind Khalid Sheik Mohammed in federal court falls apart, with Attorney General Eric Holder informing the president that KSM would be returned to Guantánamo Bay for trial. A report in The Washington Post claims this move will "mark the effective abandonment of the president's promise to close the military detention center."

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

No, the topic is 'Zimmerman Trial....divisive or definitive?' You're off on a tangent pushing a racist myth to deride an entire race of people.

 

[Praus]

Neat breakdown Praus. Thank you for showing that more white people, per capita, finish their education and apply for work or better yet become self-employed rather than drop out of school and live off welfare. And they do it despite people like you deriding them for it with your white privilege myth. I say bravo for them.

Me too bravo. The rest drop out of school because they're compelled by poverty to enter the work force at a young age. That's white privilege too.

Why don't you take your race baiting somewhere else. You're starting to sound like a cry baby racist.

Teens charged after allegedly killing Australian student in Oklahoma for the 'fun of it'
Where Obama, Jackson, and Sharpton at?

Given your comments about Mr. President, Jackson and Sharpton, the context of "take your race baiting somewhere else. You're starting to sound like a cry baby racist" makes no sense.

 

[Praus]

No, the topic is 'Zimmerman Trial....divisive or definitive?' You're off on a tangent pushing a racist myth to deride an entire race of people.

Actually you changed the topic to Oklahoma here:

Teens charged after allegedly killing Australian student in Oklahoma for the 'fun of it'

Where Obama, Jackson, and Sharpton at?

I was responding to your post. Seriously, if it's a racist myth it should be easy to disprove, right?

"So we have come here today to dramatize a shameful condition." --MLK, 1963

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

You are nuttier than a fruitcake Praus. Studies show that high school dropouts are far less likely to be active labor force participants after dropping out. On any given day, ten percent of them is in jail or juvenile detention and many of the rest are soon to join them there.

You've got them dropping out to work. Firstly, they don't have to work because they are minors and the state pays everything from housing, food, medical care, and public education for them if their parent(s) cannot.

Know how I know that? Because I'm from a poor area in Los Angeles and went through it. I can tell you exactly what they are doing: they are partying their a** off, selling dope, committing crime, getting their girlfriend pregnant (female dropouts are nine times more likely to be single mothers on welfare than girls that stay in school) and some of them are also banging for the local streetgang. Simple as that.

White people didn't dropout of school or take time off to work to drive down and force non-white kids to drop out of school. The kids themselves chose too because they wanted to have fun rather than study and work. And since most of their parents were just like them; they didn't lift a finger to start a business in their neighborhood, educate themselves (even though the state would have paid them to do so), or stop their kids from being just like them. What they did was keep cashing those "free" government checks.

White privilege, what a racist fairytale.