Zimmerman Trial....divisive or definitive?

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Ann Coulter On George Zimmerman Verdict: 'Hallelujah!'



Waiting for evidence to the contrary. Happy to be wrong.
There was no evidence of racism in this confrontation given at trial. Please tell me why racism is an issue?

The only answer is, since there was no evidence at trial of racism, is those who are crying out about racism, are indeed and in fact, racists themselves. Without any evidence, racism is being thrown around like its a given.

Why is it a given? I think to suggest there was any degree of racism in this tragedy only defines those who think there is racism, as racists themselves.

If every issue is about race to ''you'', then that kinda defines you as a racist...correct?

There was no evidence of a racial component.

A man who never should have been arrested let alone went to trial, was deemed to be innocent by the facts. The facts of the trial are clear, Zimmerman was clearly innocent....but...

its the left in this country crying out so much its racism, they are inciting protests and even some reports of violence.

The right is racist? If anything comes from this trial, it is proof positive the left, liberalism and most of the media today, are racist to the core.....mmm....using facts not accusation.
 

Elizabeth619

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Obama started this whole thing. Obama is a RACIST! He paid people to go out and protest against white people who stand their ground. He hates whites.
You do know his mother is white don't you? He is just as much white as he is black.
 
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Ah, so in other words you have no evidence of people cheering on the killing of a child. Thanks anyway.
Since there did not seem to be any article in the site you posted....hmmmm.....then I would presume Coulter's cheers were for justice and an innocent man being freed and exonerated from the racial slurs and hatreds of the left.
 

Elizabeth619

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Since there did not seem to be any article in the site you posted....hmmmm.....then I would presume Coulter's cheers were for justice and an innocent man being freed and exonerated from the racial slurs and hatreds of the left.
she is a bit obnoxious though
 

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I'm not much of a political commentator so take all my comments with a grain of salt, but for what it's worth here's my opinion based on what I have seen.

I saw Obama's 10-minute speech the other day on the the Zimmerman verdict. I think he made some unfair analogies, and wrongly took sides, going along with the race card, just as he did a few years ago when he publicly stated that "police acted stupidly" when they were simply doing their job in response to a call about a breakin (then remember the stupid "beer summit" to try to talk out racial whatever when there was nothing racial). I'm not saying there's absolutely no racial aspect to the Zimmeran ordeal but I think they could find much better examples of racism from whites and also racism from blacks, if they really want to do that.

But the mere fact that we and the whole nation are taking the time to talk about this, even if it's criticism of the president, is perhaps a victory for the president, and his administration?

I mean it seems like the president is riding this racism wave created by the liberal media and it works well to get the spotlight off of the corruption in his own administration.

DOJ apparently would rather go to extremes to try to prosecute a man who has already been tried (doesn't the constitution say you can't be tried more than once for the same crime), and investigate something that has already been investigated by the FBI, than to try to prosecute blatant corruption in the IRS that blocked funding of opposing campaigns and helped Obama and Holder get or keep their offices. And they don't seem too eager to investigate "how high up" it goes. Wonder why?

And personally I'd rather hear the president speak on (and take questions on) real federal government matters, things which he promised transparency about but which have been dodged or clouded.

Also I don't like the end of Obama's speech where he asks everyone to do some "soul searching" on racial matters. I just think a lot of soul searching needs to start up there with them on a lot of things, including even racial matters (e.g., motives for playing race card, etc.).

But I guess the reality is, the world is the world, and politics is politics, and politicians are politicians.

And we are Christians.

P.S. I hope I haven't gone out of bounds in my comments or criticisms here.
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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Modern "progressive" liberalism, neo-classical liberalism, social Darwinism, etc... corrupted the classical liberalism that came before it resulting in the morally bankrupt, authoritarian, self-defeating economy, ideology we see today.

But you could say the same of neo-conservatism with respect to paleoconservatism too.

Two bankrupt ideologies equates to no good future.


To me, liberalism has been defined as the racist, bankrupt ideology it is.
 
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But only if you smoke, like a really lot of, pot.

You can blame liberalism all you want, but it seems the gun loving, racist, right wing set up all the dominoes for this one.
 

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Maybe zimmerman isnt racist but I dont doubt a lot of people supporting him are racist since they keep referring to trayvon as the N word, and how they think hes in a gang and sells drugs.
 

Oncefallen

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DOJ apparently would rather go to extremes to try to prosecute a man who has already been tried (doesn't the constitution say you can't be tried more than once for the same crime), and investigate something that has already been investigated by the FBI, than to try to prosecute blatant corruption in the IRS that blocked funding of opposing campaigns and helped Obama and Holder get or keep their offices. And they don't seem too eager to investigate "how high up" it goes. Wonder why?
Sure the constitution protects us from double jeopardy, but Florida tried him for murder. If DOJ charges him it will be for civil rights violations. This is the same route that was taken by DOJ after the Rodney King verdict 20 years ago. It's the latest way around the constitution.
 
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Maybe zimmerman isnt racist but I dont doubt a lot of people supporting him are racist since they keep referring to trayvon as the N word, and how they think hes in a gang and sells drugs.
Haven't seen that at all.

This is like the bounty, 100,000 dollars, for any video or audio evidence of racial slurs at a Tea Party gathering after false allegations, once again, that conservatives are racists.

So far no one has collected on that money.

I know this is radical and controversial but, there really is a difference between rhetoric and fact.
 
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Of course you're right about that but the weightier issues have to do with the stand your ground law in Florida and also the problem of ideologically driven political corruption in which government officials don't follow the law.

Maybe zimmerman isnt racist but I dont doubt a lot of people supporting him are racist since they keep referring to trayvon as the N word, and how they think hes in a gang and sells drugs.
 

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I'm not so sure about that. I believe he should have been convicted of at least man slaughter. Zimmerman initiated the conflict. He was told when he joined the neighborhood watch that 1 you do not carry a gun and 2, you do not confront or follow. A neighbor watch is just what the title implies, you watch and report. Zimmerman said that Trevon turned around and asked why he was being followed, zimmerman reached for his phone, and that's when trevon assaulted him. Imagine you are being followed by a stranger, you dont know who he is or what his intentions are. when you turn around to confront him, you see him reaching for something. At this point, it becomes fight or flight, trevon chose to fight. You dont hunt someone down, then kill him because you are losing the fight. This whole thing sends a message that it is ok to be a vigilante and to take the law into your hands
 
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6 mothers declared Zimmerman innocent by considering the facts at trial.

Manslaughter was an option and there was not enough evidence for it.

There was not enough evidence for an arrest, let alone trial.

Zimmerman was followed to his car by Martin and brutally attacked.

Zimmerman was not hunting down anyone.

If Zimmerman did not have a gun, he would be dead and Martin in jail....betcha that wouldn't have even made the evening news
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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If that's how it went down, then I agree with you. But that's not Zimmerman's story and Trayvon is dead. The physical evidence helps but there was no video and only one live witness so we'll never know 100% for sure what happened.

I'm not so sure about that. I believe he should have been convicted of at least man slaughter. Zimmerman initiated the conflict. He was told when he joined the neighborhood watch that 1 you do not carry a gun and 2, you do not confront or follow. A neighbor watch is just what the title implies, you watch and report. Zimmerman said that Trevon turned around and asked why he was being followed, zimmerman reached for his phone, and that's when trevon assaulted him. Imagine you are being followed by a stranger, you dont know who he is or what his intentions are. when you turn around to confront him, you see him reaching for something. At this point, it becomes fight or flight, trevon chose to fight. You dont hunt someone down, then kill him because you are losing the fight. This whole thing sends a message that it is ok to be a vigilante and to take the law into your hands
 

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then remember the stupid "beer summit" to try to talk out racial whatever when there was nothing racial


oh yes....all the worlds a stage for that lot.
they must laugh their heads off at the public.
 
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Just because Ann is an obnoxious bonehead doesn't mean other conservatives are like her. One person doesnt speak for a whole group.
But don't you think that we need the Ann Coulters to bring in a balance so that people don't fall off the other side of the spectrum? Just a thought.
 
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I know O'Reilly is a tool of the right but this guest of his isn't.

[video=youtube_share;kskuuKlvqYU]http://youtu.be/kskuuKlvqYU[/video]
 
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It finally happened. Obama, Sharpton, Jackson, and the liberal media whipped the frenzy up to the point where a couple of white brothers were executed by black gunman over a bumper sticker that said 'Free Zimmerman.'

[video=youtube_share;REpZUFv8MRY]http://youtu.be/REpZUFv8MRY[/video]