Co equally God, co equally eternal, yet have different functions
Agreed. Regarding functions, can you arrange them according to greatness?
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Agreed. Regarding functions, can you arrange them according to greatness?
I don't quite think you grasp this let me explain.
A man and wife have the same status, yet have differing functions none is greater than the other.
A man and wife have the same status, yet have differing functions none is greater than the other.
Getting back to the original question, can you arrange these terms according to their greatness of authority: son, spirit, father?
God is co equal and co eternal, The Father and son and Holy Spirit have different functions, do you agree?
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Ariel82
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thanks for the summary. I have to cook dinner so I won't have time to read the previous pages. sorry if I repeat. ..........
The Holy Spirit, God and Jesus/the WORD, all exist at the same time because there are quite a few BIble verses about it.
it is not always preached at the pulpit, normally pastors save this teaching because of the confusion it might generate, to Bible studies or more advance Discipleship classes. unfortunately many people choose not to attend such classes since they meet during the week.
The Holy Spirit, God and Jesus/the WORD, all exist at the same time because there are quite a few BIble verses about it.
it is not always preached at the pulpit, normally pastors save this teaching because of the confusion it might generate, to Bible studies or more advance Discipleship classes. unfortunately many people choose not to attend such classes since they meet during the week.
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cfultz3
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Rev 3:21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in (on) my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in (on) his throne.
Heb 1:3, 8:1, 10:12, 12:2, Mar 16:19, Eph 1:20......is set down at the right hand of God's throne.
He sets upon His throne of glory (Mat 19:28, 25:31) and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth. (Joh 1:14)
...water of life...proceeding from the throne of God and of the Lamb. (Rev 22:1)(definite article + kia + definite article = two distinct clauses. (Mat 2:14, Joseph took the child, Joseph took the child's mother. Mat 4:8, Satan showed Jesus the kingdoms of this world, Satan showed Jesus their glory. Many other examples. Rev 22:1 John was shown the throne of God, John was shown the throne of the Lamb))
The story of the Pharaoh and Joseph explains well the two thrones. Pharaoh kept his throne, but gave Joseph his own throne.
If (and I do say if) the above is in response to my point that ministers do not demand from the pulpit people believe Christ is God to be saved, you are letting yourself down Ariel, but I could be mistaken, if so my apologies to you
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cfultz3
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Consensus is that it is the Word of God inspired by the Holy Spirit. That is good enough for me. You?
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cfultz3
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Oh but we do accept him as a brother, a young brother. Why do you place doubt in his head?
I said if, but one of your number at least appears to have made clear they do not accept he is a Christian/can be saved with his views
I have no reason to doubt he is a Christian at all, I am sure he knows thAat
Good, The Father is not Jesus, jesus is not the Father, and both are not the Holy Spirit yet one God. Three in one.
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cfultz3
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When a person dies in sin, they are separated from God. they do not cease from existence. Jesus, if He was God in the sense of there was no God in Heaven because He came down (leaving Heaven without God), then when Jesus died, God would have been separated from God. How is that possible, seeing that God the Father was in Heaven and raised God the Word from Hades. So, there are at least 2 persons of the Godhead. I know your question and where it is leading to, and yes Jesus was God. In fact, there are three: Father, Word, Spirit and whether or not that verse was added, dare you deny either?
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cfultz3
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