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thanks for the summary. I have to cook dinner so I won't have time to read the previous pages. sorry if I repeat. ..........
The Holy Spirit, God and Jesus/the WORD, all exist at the same time because there are quite a few BIble verses about it.
it is not always preached at the pulpit, normally pastors save this teaching because of the confusion it might generate, to Bible studies or more advance Discipleship classes. unfortunately many people choose not to attend such classes since they meet during the week.
The Holy Spirit, God and Jesus/the WORD, all exist at the same time because there are quite a few BIble verses about it.
it is not always preached at the pulpit, normally pastors save this teaching because of the confusion it might generate, to Bible studies or more advance Discipleship classes. unfortunately many people choose not to attend such classes since they meet during the week.
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Rev 3:21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in (on) my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in (on) his throne.
Heb 1:3, 8:1, 10:12, 12:2, Mar 16:19, Eph 1:20......is set down at the right hand of God's throne.
He sets upon His throne of glory (Mat 19:28, 25:31) and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth. (Joh 1:14)
...water of life...proceeding from the throne of God and of the Lamb. (Rev 22:1)(definite article + kia + definite article = two distinct clauses. (Mat 2:14, Joseph took the child, Joseph took the child's mother. Mat 4:8, Satan showed Jesus the kingdoms of this world, Satan showed Jesus their glory. Many other examples. Rev 22:1 John was shown the throne of God, John was shown the throne of the Lamb))
The story of the Pharaoh and Joseph explains well the two thrones. Pharaoh kept his throne, but gave Joseph his own throne.
Heb 1:3, 8:1, 10:12, 12:2, Mar 16:19, Eph 1:20......is set down at the right hand of God's throne.
He sets upon His throne of glory (Mat 19:28, 25:31) and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth. (Joh 1:14)
...water of life...proceeding from the throne of God and of the Lamb. (Rev 22:1)(definite article + kia + definite article = two distinct clauses. (Mat 2:14, Joseph took the child, Joseph took the child's mother. Mat 4:8, Satan showed Jesus the kingdoms of this world, Satan showed Jesus their glory. Many other examples. Rev 22:1 John was shown the throne of God, John was shown the throne of the Lamb))
The story of the Pharaoh and Joseph explains well the two thrones. Pharaoh kept his throne, but gave Joseph his own throne.
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When a person dies in sin, they are separated from God. they do not cease from existence. Jesus, if He was God in the sense of there was no God in Heaven because He came down (leaving Heaven without God), then when Jesus died, God would have been separated from God. How is that possible, seeing that God the Father was in Heaven and raised God the Word from Hades. So, there are at least 2 persons of the Godhead. I know your question and where it is leading to, and yes Jesus was God. In fact, there are three: Father, Word, Spirit and whether or not that verse was added, dare you deny either?