Mark of the beast RFID or not?

[Hizikyah]

This is a very important topic, as if one recieves the mark of the beasy they will not enter the kingdom of Yahweh. What better resource to tell us what the mark is than the Scriptures.

The RFID chip is not the actual mark of the beast it is the way of enforcement however. The mark of the beast is the oppisite of the mark of YAHWEH. The mark of Yahweh can be found in Scripture: (On a topic this important please take the time to read this, it may be different than what you have heard however it is pure Scripture, if any wish to rufute this please use Scripture and remember this Revelation 12:9, "And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, who deceives the whole world."

Exodus 13:9, "And it shall be as a *sign to you upon your hand and as a memorial between your eyes, that Yahweh's Law shall be in your mouth; for with a strong hand Yahweh has brought you out of Egypt."

*Sign is Word #226, Hebrew Dictionary, Strong's Exhaustive Concordance, meaning mark, token, sign, consent, flag, evidence of consent.

Exodus 31:13-17, "Speak also to the children of Israyl, saying; Surely My Sabbaths you shall keep, for they are a sign between Me and you throughout your generations, that you may know that I am Yahweh Who sanctifies you, and makes you holy"....16-17, "Therefore the children of Israyl shall keep the Sabbath, to observe the Sabbath throughout their generations as a perpetual covenant. It is a sign between Me and the children of Israyl forever, for in six days Yahweh made the heavens and the earth, and on the Seventh Day He rested and was refreshed."

Ezekiel 20:12, "Moreover, I also gave them My Sabbaths, to be a sign between Me and them, that they might know that I am Yahweh Who sanctifies them."

Revelation 14:9-11, "And the third malak followed them, saying with a loud voice: If any man worships the beast and his likeness, and receives his mark in his forehead or upon his hand, The same will drink of the wine of the wrath of Yahweh...........And they have no Sabbath night and day, who worship the beast and his likeness..."

This "sign" is your actions (right hand) which represents strength, what you do with your ability/life and memorial between your eyes Exodus 13:9, that explains the mark of Yahweh says: "memorial between your eyes," what do we remember with that is between our eyes? Our brain, or our thoughts and beliefs. If you think the Sabbath is only for the Hebrew people and/or gentiles were grafted in during the NT you are Scriptually wrong:

Isayah 56:1-7, "This is what Yahweh says: Keep the judgments, and do justly; for My salvation is near, soon, to come, and My righteousness to be revealed. Blessed is the man who does this, and the son of man who lays hold on it; who keeps the Sabbaths without polluting; defiling, them; and keeps his hand from doing dany evil. Do not let the son of the Gentile, who has joined himself to Yahweh, speak, saying; Yahweh has utterly separated me from His people. Nor let the eunuch say; Behold, I am a dry tree. For this is what Yahweh says: To the eunuchs who keep My Sabbaths, and choose those things which eplease Me, and hold fast to My covenant: I will give to them, in My House, even within My walls, a place and a Name equal to that of sons and of daughters; I will give them the Name of The Everlasting: YAHWEH; which will not be cut off. Also the sons of the Gentile who join themselves to Yahweh, to serve Him, and to love the Name of Yahweh, to be His servants--everyone who keeps the Sabbaths without polluting; defiling, them and who holds fast to My covenant--I will bring them to My holy mountain, and make them joyful in My House of prayer..."

Exodus 12:48-49, "And when a stranger lives among you and wants to sacrifice the Passover to Yahweh, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near, and sacrifice it; and he shall be as a native of the land. But no uncircumcised person shall eat of it. One Law shall be for the nativeborn and for the stranger who dwells among you."

Yahweh told us evil powers would change the Sabbath and Laws through the mouth of the prophet Daniyl:

Daniyl 7:25, "And he will speak great words against Yahweh, and will wear out the saints of Yahweh, and think to change times and Laws..."

Daniel 7:25, "And he shall speak words against the Most High [God] and shall wear out the saints of the Most High and think to change the time [of sacred feasts and holy days] and the law..." AMP

Isayah 24:1-6, "Behold, Yahweh makes the earth empty and makes it waste, perverts the face of it and scatters abroad its inhabitants; And it will be: as with the people, so with the priest; as with the servant, so with his owner; as with the maid, so with her mistress; as with the buyer, so with the seller; as with the lender, so with the borrower; as with him who takes usury, so with him who gives usury to him: The land will be utterly emptied and utterly plundered, for Yahweh has spoken this word. The earth mourns and fades away, the world mourns and fades away, and the haughty people of
the earth languish. The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants of it, because they have transgressed the Laws, changed the ordinance, and broken the everlasting covenant. Because of this, the curse has devoured the earth, and they who dwell therein are desolate; therefore, the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men left."

The Sabbath change had nothig to do with the Messiah, it came from Constantine at the council of Nicea 321ad and it is based upon SUN god worship (Sol Invictus Mithra), look up Cardinal James Gibbons quotes on the change of the Sabbath. It is the beast that changed it in the minds of the people; Revelation 17:9, "And here is the mind which has wisdom: The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits." Watch this video to see the Scriptual evidence of who the 1st beast is

And upon her head a name was written - YouTube

It's not about making people observe SUNday, it dosen't mean you evil if you gather or worship on Sunaday. It's about not having the mark of Yahweh, which Scriptually is keeping the 7th day Sabbath. The world will be in a state of chaos at that time and it could be that the 7th day is the only day to buy groceries or gas. The RFID will be the way it is enforced, no doubt in my mind. Also if SDA teach a forced SUNday, I think there view is wrong. With all the crackdown on religion that is already happening I can see something where the idea of a indivigual way of worship will be attacked, and it fits with the one world universal religion that will be. Join it or your a terrorists, and many will probably have that same view because of people like radical muslims.

Daniyl 8:12, "And a host was given him against the daily (sacrifice is an added word we could just as well add the daily worship) by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practiced, and succeeded."

Also Yahshua did not rise on SUNday, watch this video please, if you desire truth. 3 days and 3 nights, and this is Yahweh's calendar and not the Bablonian/Julian calendar. If you truly understand the calendar of the Creator of all that is and you put all the Scriptures togather you will see it is impossible to havea SUNday resurrection.

Resurrection - YouTube

 

[SpiritofFire]

Whatever reason a person can come with as to why we still use the money WE MAKE WITH OUR OWN HANDS, seeing that it is enough for ALL, is the mark we seek.

Research on all the abundance of things we now have, and you will find the true Sabbath.

 

[reject-tech]

Mark of the beast is to try and "make deals" with God.
The love of "money"
Being the "whore of babylon"

Ex 30:9
"Ye shall offer no strange incense thereon, nor burnt sacrifice, nor meat offering; neither shall ye pour drink offering thereon."

 

[Hizikyah]

Mark of the beast is to try and "make deals" with God.
The love of "money"
Being the "whore of babylon"

Ex 30:9
"Ye shall offer no strange incense thereon, nor burnt sacrifice, nor meat offering; neither shall ye pour drink offering thereon."

Where are your Scriptures backing this up?

 

[posthuman]

in the Revelation the mark is on the forehead & on the hand;

in Hindu art, an eye is often pictured on the hand and on the forehead - this is symbolic of enlightened thought and enlightened action.

are our thoughts and actions marked by the things of heaven, or the things of earth?

 

[Hizikyah]

in the Revelation the mark is on the forehead & on the hand;

in Hindu art, an eye is often pictured on the hand and on the forehead - this is symbolic of enlightened thought and enlightened action.

are our thoughts and actions marked by the things of heaven, or the things of earth?

I don't want to bring hindu art into it, as hinduisim is super pagan,

but this part you said:"are our thoughts and actions marked by the things of heaven, or the things of earth?"

Thats one of the main points of this thread.

Mattithyah 15:8-9, "These people draw near to Me with their mouth and honor Me with their lips, but have removed their hearts far from Me. But in vain they do worship Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men."

 

[danschance]

Who knows what the mark of the beast is? All I know is I am not accepting the it.

 

[Hizikyah]

Who knows what the mark of the beast is? All I know is I am not accepting the it.

Lol, I got a sincere laugh out of that post. (you meant it to be funny right?)


Most people really don't have even a gues at what it is and that could be very dangerous. hat is actually why I made this thread, to raise awareness.

 

[posthuman]

Thats one of the main points of this thread.

Mattithyah 15:8-9, "These people draw near to Me with their mouth and honor Me with their lips, but have removed their hearts far from Me. But in vain they do worship Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men."

as it's said, the number of the beast is "the number of man"
let us seek instead the seal of God on our hearts and minds! i only brought up Hindu art because it is an easy illustration & way of understanding the same thing you point out about thought and action.

as Christ says, "The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath" (Mark 2:27), and as Paul said in Galatians,
"But now that you know God—or rather are known by God—how is it that you are turning back to those weak and miserable forces? Do you wish to be enslaved by them all over again? You are observing special days and months and seasons and years! I fear for you, that somehow I have wasted my efforts on you." (Gal. 4:9-11)

with regards to the sabbath, it is a command given to Israel, not to the people of the new covenant, and none of us are bound by it any more than we are bound to circumcision, to sacrifice of doves or to restrictions against eating pork. the NT is full of argument and explanation in this regard -- i would consider the question of sunday worship as you would 'eating meat sacrificed to idols' -- if to the weaker brother, it is an offense, he should not be forced to it, nor should we in enjoying the freedom of Christ cause the one with less understanding to stumble. today, we meet on sunday primarily because we work monday through friday! in truth, we should worship ever day of every week!

i mean no offense. in my ignorance, i know only that today Christ IS risen, and at the cross he said "it is finished" just as the Father said at creation on the 7th day -- to me, we live every day in the sabbath, and every day is holy unto Him.

 

[Hizikyah]

i know only that today Christ IS risen, and at the cross he said "it is finished" just as the Father said at creation on the 7th day -- to me, we live every day in the sabbath, and every day is holy unto Him.

Many people keep Sunday because they think Yahshua rose on Saunday. It is impossible for Yahshua to have been in the grave 3 days and 3 nights, and it be Friday to Sunday, all you have to do is watch the first few sections of this video and you will see that, Yahweh's calendar not the Bablonian/Julian calendar most of the world includung America uses now. This is all the Scriptual evidence. Please watch it and let me know what you think?

Resurrection - YouTube

 

[Hizikyah]

with regards to the sabbath, it is a command given to Israel, not to the people of the new covenant,

Isayah 56:1-7, "This is what Yahweh says: Keep the judgments, and do justly; for My salvation is near, soon, to come, and My righteousness to be revealed. Blessed is the man who does this, and the son of man who lays hold on it; who keeps the Sabbaths without polluting; defiling, them; and keeps his hand from doing dany evil. Do not let the son of the Gentile, who has joined himself to Yahweh, speak, saying; Yahweh has utterly separated me from His people. Nor let the eunuch say; Behold, I am a dry tree. For this is what Yahweh says: To the eunuchs who keep My Sabbaths, and choose those things which eplease Me, and hold fast to My covenant: I will give to them, in My House, even within My walls, a place and a Name equal to that of sons and of daughters; I will give them the Name of The Everlasting: YAHWEH; which will not be cut off. Also the sons of the Gentile who join themselves to Yahweh, to serve Him, and to love the Name of Yahweh, to be His servants--everyone who keeps the Sabbaths without polluting; defiling, them and who holds fast to My covenant--I will bring them to My holy mountain, and make them joyful in My House of prayer..."

Hebrews 4:1-6, "Therefore, since a promise of entering His rest remains, let us fear so that none of you should come short of it. For this message was preached to us, as well as to them; but the word which they heard did not benefit them, because they did not nshare in the faith of those who obeyed--However, we who have believed do enter that rest, as He has said: So I vowed in My wrath, They will not enter into My rest, although the works were finished from the foundation of the world, For He spoke in a certain place of the Seventh Day, in this way: And Yahweh
rested the Seventh Day from all His works. And in this place again: If they will enter into My brest. Since therefore it remains that some must enter it, and those to whom it was first preached did not enter because of disobedience."

Mattithyah 5:18, "For truly I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh--the smallest of the letters--will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected."

Luke 16:17, "But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one yodh of the Law to fail."

Revelation 12:9, "And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, who deceives the whole world."

People are gladly rejecting the mark of Yahweh. it's sad.

 

[Hizikyah]

People do not know what the Talmud is so they do not understand Yahshua's words when dealing with the Pharisees, and the lying preachers talke advantage of this ignorance.

Yahshua spoke against the Talmud not the Laws of Yahweh.

Luke 16:17, "But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one yodh of the Law to fail."

Revelation 12:9, "And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, who deceives the whole world."

 

[watcher2013]

Accompanied by the mark is the Worship of the Beast.

Worshipping other besides the true God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is idolatry. and if they worship false god how will they worship the true God.
If they worship the Beast, How can they believe in the True God. therefore their part is the lake of fire.

Whatever is the MARK, DO NOT WORSHIP other gods.

 

[Trax]

There are three common veiws of the "mark" these days:
1. a chip
2. a tattoo like mark
3. genetic tapering

1. The chip - if it is just about controling money spent, then I don't see how it
justifies the lake of fire to use it. Money has had many faces of leaders, who wanted
to be worshipped as a god. Ceasar had his image on money during Jesus' day.

2. Tattoo - many pagans had their gods tattooed on themselves for worship. They
could repent and be saved. How is this mark different? To take it, makes it impossible
to be saved.

3. Genetic tampering - Is taking the mark, that dooms the person, a case of God saying
it, so it is so, or is it a case of the the person no longer considered human, and impossible
to save. People who support this veiw cite these couple verses:

Heb 2:16-17 For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of
Abraham. (17) Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he
might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the
sins of the people.
Angels can't be redeemed, only man. Jesus had humanity and that is why man is redeemed.
He was made like an angel. Note the bold words in the above verses. The word "SEED".
Now read this verse:
Dan 2:43 And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves
with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.

This is where some arrive at the thinking that this mark will contain DNA altering substance.
And who are the "they" in Dan 2:43? It isn't animals because the "they" are causing it to
happen. It isn't humans, because humans mix DNA on a daily basis. It is called "children."
The next possibility is fallen angels.

 

[nathan3]

its not a chip.. its You, believing the flood of lies, coming out of the dragons mouth . End of rev 12. And ignoring the warning given in God's word of the coming deception... The chip/sunday/ this that or the other, are all distractions, form what is written..

 

[Tintin]

No, but the the mark of the beast may be not using the Search function on the forums. It's not there for decoration.

 

[Imperfect]

no the RFID chip is not the mark. its too obvious of a choice and thats not how satan works. satan never shows his hand. this RFID chip thing is a distraction, a way to keep you busy (deceived) while he tricks everybody into taking the real mark.

It says that you wont be able to buy, sell, or trade without the mark... and thats the only thing that keeps me from thinking smart phones is not the mark. but with the plans of taking away money and 'banks' already putting money into accounts with just a picture, smart phones look like to be well on their way being the mark. and Its said that the mark will be in high demand.. whats more in high demand than smart phones these days... also says even the elite will be deceived into taking it.

but im not sure, i have a cheap smart phone from wal-mart but i have been contemplating trading it in for a basic flip phone or something.

 

[Tintin]

Smartphones? Oh, come on! Trading one lunacy for another. The mark of the beast is spiritual.

 

[Imperfect]

Smartphones? Oh, come on! Trading one lunacy for another. The mark of the beast is spiritual.

see how it is unexpected. thats how you trick people into taking it. they dont expect it.

and saying the mark is spiritual is like saying Babylon the Mystery is spiritual.. its not.

everybody wants to say the RFID CHIP is it, but theres already a chip in the phones, and everything about you is on the internet already.. and the internet is connected to your phone. now they know where you are and all about you wherever you go. etc....

 

[Tintin]

I don't see how owning a smartphone determines my salvation and what side I belong too. It's just silly. What happens if I have one already, am I damned? Even if I get rid of it? I don't know who let's these threads exist.