Difference between God and Jesus

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josh123

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phil36 said:
IHi Josh,

They are not my brothers, they believe in a different gospel.
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that's a cult right there what you just said..you know what you are telling me by saying that? whoever goes against what you believe in is nothing to you or that person is irrelevant, if you truly are a child of God you would have understand and knowledge of the bible to reveal what it is trying to saying.. your just using your carnal mind, and does a child of God condemns others because they don't agree with what you agree with? or would they speak the word and reveal the knowledge from the bible, ask yourself that, how can you even think or do something like that? that isn't Love you said they are your brothers because they believe in a different gospel if you truly had love in you, you would love them enough to prove the truth of what your saying with the bible
 
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Quickfire

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phil36 said:
Not believing Jesus is God is false.. standing up for those who proclaim to be Christian and yet deny wo God is, is just as bad..if the shoe fits Quickfire....wear it!
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another false accusation you really are unwell you should have a rest, now phil
 
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oldhermit said:
Why don't you answer my question Silas?
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If you have scripture where the Father states Christ is the one true God please bring it forth and I will believe you
I do not feel I can start a fresh debate with someone new now, I have been at this a long time with Phil as I previously explained to you
I hope, respectfully you will understand and accept that
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If you read the posts, you would know that question was asked as a direct response to a question Phil relentlessly put before me
 
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silas42 said:
If you have scripture where the Father states Christ is the one true God please bring it forth and I will believe you
I do not feel I can start a fresh debate with someone new now, I have been at this a long time with Phil as I previously explained to you
I hope, respectfully you will understand
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Do you believe what the Father says about Jesus in Heb. 1:8?
 
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Yahchanan 14:28, "You have heard that I told you: I go away, but come again to you. If you loved Me, you would have rejoiced that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I.

The only being in existance greater than Yahshua is Yahweh.
 
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Quickfire said:
another false accusation you really are unwell you should have a rest, now phil
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Of course I forgot we are to open our arms a hug the false god's, stand up for those who deny the true God. Silly me Quickfire :)
 
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silas42

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oldhermit said:
Do you believe what the Father says about Jesus in Heb. 1:8?
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I knew that was what you'd post. If I had the energy I'd give you a proper response, but like I said, one conversation at a time.

It is not a strong verse to use though, rather a weak one
 
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Deary me their all crawling out of the woodwork now.
 
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silas42 said:
I knew that was what you'd post. If I had the energy I'd give you a proper response, but like I said, one conversation at a time. You have replied very weakly, better to have not entered the discussion
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Perhaps when you find the "energy" you would be disposed to engage me on this matter on a one-on-one conversation if you do not feel it would be too taxing on you.
 
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silas42

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oldhermit said:
Perhaps when you find the "energy" you would be disposed to engage me on this matter on a one-on-one conversation if you do not feel it would be too taxing on you.
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I'll see. But I can't be expected to debate with one person for hours, then start a new debate with someone else
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I am sure you realise I am debating who a person must believe Christ to be to inherit eternal life, but if you can produce a scripture where the Father states Christ is the one true God, I will obviously respond to that point as you requested, so far you haven't
 
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phil36 said:
Of course I forgot we are to open our arms a hug the false god's, stand up for those who deny the true God. Silly me Quickfire :)
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lol you get better an better i think the only way this can be settled if we go in to live chat and discuss it what do you say phil,

First of all i have been at work i have not read through the many stones you have chucked since i last looked lol, or read anything that silas has wrote pointed out as far as i am aware sila has pointed out his faith and believes jesus is god as far as i know,

If your trying to tel me something then show me but please do not make false accusations about me,
 
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Josh123, well stated.
 
oldhermit

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silas42 said:
I'll see. But I can't be expected to debate with one person for hours, then start a new debate with someone else
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I am sure you realise I am debating who a person must believe Christ to be to inherit eternal life, but if you can produce a scripture where the Father states Christ is the one true God, I will obviously respond to that point as you requested, so far you haven't
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You could find the energy to respond to that but not enough energy to respond to the question I asked.
 
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silas42

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oldhermit said:
You could find the energy to respond to that but not enough energy to respond to the question I asked.
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If I respond then you'll ask another one and so on, it wouldn't stop there would it. Maybe you can debate for hours with one person, then immediately start a new debate with someone else, but although I may be slightly younger than you, it appears I do not have so much energy
 
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josh123 said:
that's a cult right there what you just said..you know what you are telling me by saying that? whoever goes against what you believe in is nothing to you or that person is irrelevant, if you truly are a child of God you would have understand and knowledge of the bible to reveal what it is trying to saying.. your just using your carnal mind, and does a child of God condemns others because they don't agree with what you agree with? or would they speak the word and reveal the knowledge from the bible, ask yourself that, how can you even think or do something like that? that isn't Love you said they are your brothers because they believe in a different gospel if you truly had love in you, you would love them enough to prove the truth of what your saying with the bible
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Its not what I say, and again I would wish people go to scripture and find out for themselves. God Is triune. when you deny that you deny god. I am quite amazed how many love to be tickled by heresy and embrace it.. atleast 4 so far.
 
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silas42

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phil36 said:
Its not what I say, and again I would wish people go to scripture and find out for themselves. QUOTE]

I've been quoting you scripture but you refuse to accept it or respond to it. It is what you say actually, for the bible does not demand a person believe Christ to be God Himself to be a Christian, you do
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silas42 said:
If I respond then you'll ask another one and so on, it wouldn't stop there would it. Maybe you can debate for hours with one person, then immediately start a new debate with someone else, but although I may be slightly younger than you, it appears I do not have so much energy
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You did not seem to mind pushing Phil around. Why don't you see if you can push me around. I detest a bully. Your arguments a shallow and baseless representing a complete disregard for the integrity of the text. Perhaps Phil won't mind sitting this one out.
 
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silas42

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oldhermit said:
You did not seem to mind pushing Phil around. Why don't you see if you can push me around. I detest a bully. Your arguments a shallow and baseless representing a complete disregard for the integrity of the text. Perhaps Phil won't mind setting this one out.
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I'm a bully, I'm not going around telling anyone they can't be a Christian/they stand condemned
 
phil36

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Hi silas,

I thought you had no more energy to debate. I disagree with how you interpret the scripture you gave..simply because you believe Jesus is not God. the sme text does not sy that the Father alone is one.

Yet I totally affirm Deut 6:4; Galatians 3:20

oh and here is a very interesting scripture for you 1 Timothy 2:5
 
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