Understanding Dark Sentences

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iamsoandso

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Did Early Christians Celebrate Birthdays? in the Hebrew calender,on the day i was born(becouse the first fruits of the harvest dictate the addition of an added month every 6 or 7 years) from the day i was born till now,70 years i have oney had two days that fell on the correct day i was born. the third time it will fall correct i will be over 100. i am not 3 years old according to the calender divided by 60 and 12 and 24 given in Egypt,,,i am forced to follow it. there are only 12 hours in the day to me.
 
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chiefofdisciples

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#82
To know the truth of Dan 8:23-25 is to know who the beast was. His name was Cardinal Richeleu. The king behind the king of France. The dark sentences he understood were the hidden messages within letters that he sent out. These messages were used to keep track of his spies and his allies. The hidden messages could only be read by using the code key which Richeleu invented.
 

RickyZ

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Amos 3:1-2 KJV
[1] Hear this word that the Lord hath spoken against you, O children of Israel, against the whole family which I brought up from the land of Egypt, saying, [2] You only have I known of all the families of the earth: therefore I will punish you for all your iniquities.

Here is a dark sentence that most don't know. Out of all the nations on earth why is Israel The Lord only knows?
Because God's pact was with Abraham's family alone, and they were the basis of Israel. Remember at the time no one else in the world wanted it.
 
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cfultz3

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#84
is God's word a riddle?

a dark sentence is something we don't know or understand, something we cant see.
Pro 1:6 and will understand a parable, and a dark speech; the saying of the wise also, and riddles.
 

RickyZ

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This thread is a load of bollocks. GOI, you're obsession with 'dark sentences' reminds me more of secret society nonsense and hidden knowledge than anything remotely Christian. Forget the 'dark sentences' and look to Christ for you hope and understanding.
Eh, not entirely. Yes the hope and understanding of Christ is first and paramount, but hope and understanding of what? We most all agree that we are edging into dark days ahead, where darkness will rule and chase us down to kill us. Does it not behoove us to understand our enemy, and know how our hope in the light of God will lead our way thru it? We need to be prepared to face the darkness that's coming and we can only be that by shining the light of God on it now.

So, as a focus, no, but as a discussion I say thread on.
 
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Ezekiel 28:13 (KJV)
[SUP]13 [/SUP]Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.

Before describing the attributes of our adversary I MUST clarify that our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ (Yeshua Messiah) has all power. As you read the following, please keep this in mind, for it will be your comfort, and give you peace of mind. (Matthew 28:18-20)

Attributes of Azazel (Satan/Lucifer) how he uses his power after being cast out of heaven.

1.Sadius-Had the power (emphasize HAD) to maintain God’s creation but not to change the principles of the established cycles of perfection. (Ephesians 6:12)

2.Topaz-curiosity i.e. the instigation of evolution, extra terrestrial space ships, mysticism, UFOs and etc.
(Ephesians 4:14, 2 Peter 2:16)

3.Diamond-Repeats God’s Word in order to entice a person into disobedience.
(2 Corinthians 11:14-15, Luke 4:2-13)

4.Beryl-The power to interfere with a believers mission.
(1 Thessalonians 2:18)

5.Onyx-the understanding of the creation of the physical/natural in detail. If the law isn’t seen spiritually it is of no use.
(Matthew 16:2-4, Galatians 3:19, John 5:44-47, John 8:42-45)

6.Jasper-the power to entice with fleshly attractiveness.
(1 John 2:16-17)

7.Sapphire-the capability to instigate a desire, and planning in detail how to achieve it through manipulation.
(Isaiah 32:6-7) Churl-KJV-that act of withholding information. Our administration in Washington. This is serious and blatant to the true believer in Messiah Yeshua

8.Emerald-the capability to readjust (temporarily) the balance of the universe
(Revelation 13:6-14)

9.Carbuncle-has complete understanding of the 5 senses of the human being henceforth altering perceptions of our natural world by instructing in a distorted manner, defining those distortions as common sense decisions.
(Matthew 24:24)

Keeping in mind Matthew 28:18-20, Our Savior overrides these powers of evil for those that pursue His salvation in fear, prayer, and loving Him with all our heart, soul, mind, and strength. There are 3 stones belonging to our Savior that Azazel does NOT have.

10. Ligure- The power to redeem (Romans 3:21-26)

11. Agate- The power to separate in every detail (Hebrews 4:9-14)

12. Amethyst- The power to fulfill and lead (Matthew 5:17)

Loud and clear is our message to the world until we die (Joshua 24:15 and 16)
 
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GOI

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#87
Did Early Christians Celebrate Birthdays? in the Hebrew calender,on the day i was born(becouse the first fruits of the harvest dictate the addition of an added month every 6 or 7 years) from the day i was born till now,70 years i have oney had two days that fell on the correct day i was born. the third time it will fall correct i will be over 100. i am not 3 years old according to the calender divided by 60 and 12 and 24 given in Egypt,,,i am forced to follow it. there are only 12 hours in the day to me.
What are you talking about?
 
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GOI

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#88
Ezekiel 28:13 (KJV)
[SUP]13 [/SUP]Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.

Before describing the attributes of our adversary I MUST clarify that our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ (Yeshua Messiah) has all power. As you read the following, please keep this in mind, for it will be your comfort, and give you peace of mind. (Matthew 28:18-20)

Attributes of Azazel (Satan/Lucifer) how he uses his power after being cast out of heaven.

1.Sadius-Had the power (emphasize HAD) to maintain God’s creation but not to change the principles of the established cycles of perfection. (Ephesians 6:12)

2.Topaz-curiosity i.e. the instigation of evolution, extra terrestrial space ships, mysticism, UFOs and etc.
(Ephesians 4:14, 2 Peter 2:16)

3.Diamond-Repeats God’s Word in order to entice a person into disobedience.
(2 Corinthians 11:14-15, Luke 4:2-13)

4.Beryl-The power to interfere with a believers mission.
(1 Thessalonians 2:18)

5.Onyx-the understanding of the creation of the physical/natural in detail. If the law isn’t seen spiritually it is of no use.
(Matthew 16:2-4, Galatians 3:19, John 5:44-47, John 8:42-45)

6.Jasper-the power to entice with fleshly attractiveness.
(1 John 2:16-17)

7.Sapphire-the capability to instigate a desire, and planning in detail how to achieve it through manipulation.
(Isaiah 32:6-7) Churl-KJV-that act of withholding information. Our administration in Washington. This is serious and blatant to the true believer in Messiah Yeshua

8.Emerald-the capability to readjust (temporarily) the balance of the universe
(Revelation 13:6-14)

9.Carbuncle-has complete understanding of the 5 senses of the human being henceforth altering perceptions of our natural world by instructing in a distorted manner, defining those distortions as common sense decisions.
(Matthew 24:24)

Keeping in mind Matthew 28:18-20, Our Savior overrides these powers of evil for those that pursue His salvation in fear, prayer, and loving Him with all our heart, soul, mind, and strength. There are 3 stones belonging to our Savior that Azazel does NOT have.

10. Ligure- The power to redeem (Romans 3:21-26)

11. Agate- The power to separate in every detail (Hebrews 4:9-14)

12. Amethyst- The power to fulfill and lead (Matthew 5:17)

Loud and clear is our message to the world until we die (Joshua 24:15 and 16)
What makes the descriptions you gave dark for us to know?

Why should we know the information you gave? I'm curious
 
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GOI

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Eh, not entirely. Yes the hope and understanding of Christ is first and paramount, but hope and understanding of what? We most all agree that we are edging into dark days ahead, where darkness will rule and chase us down to kill us. Does it not behoove us to understand our enemy, and know how our hope in the light of God will lead our way thru it? We need to be prepared to face the darkness that's coming and we can only be that by shining the light of God on it now.

So, as a focus, no, but as a discussion I say thread on.
Amen! Brother Ricky thank you in the mighty name of Jesus!

Here is a dark sentence many believe there will be a rapture . Many don't understand that there are 2 resurrections and the one we all are striving for is called the first resurrection! Brother Ricky if The Lord calls it the fret resurrection how can anyone be raptured before the first resurrection!

Do you understand way I'm saying here?
 
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GOI

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#90
Pro 1:6 and will understand a parable, and a dark speech; the saying of the wise also, and riddles.
Amen

We are to know everything the man of sin knows!

You beat me to the verse but that's beautiful because you are on your job in understanding this big bible of God!
 
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GOI

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Because God's pact was with Abraham's family alone, and they were the basis of Israel. Remember at the time no one else in the world wanted it.
Two thing Brother Rick

Abraham's family include his firstborn Ishmael and remember Abraham had other children after Sarah died, I know what you are saying but someone with babe understanding might not

Also

Why did God choose Israel?

Here is a verse that always stick in my mind when I study this particular subject

Jeremiah 2:32-33 KJV
[32] Can a maid forget her ornaments, or a bride her attire? yet my people have forgotten me days without number. [33] Why trimmest thou thy way to seek love? therefore hast thou also taught the wicked ones thy ways.

Go said Israel taught the wicked how to be wicked.

Out of all the families on the earth The Lord chose Israel, yet today we have churches called replacement theology teaching God has cast away his people?

This is really dark
 
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GOI

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How can there be a rapture when The Lord speak of a first resurrection?

Revelation 20:5-6 KJV
[5] But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. [6] Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

Can there be anything before the first?

This is a dark sentence to us Christians.

God says one this and we believe the opposite
 
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GOI

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#93
Jesus said he will raised the dead at the last day

John 6:39-40,44,54 KJV
[39] And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. [40] And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day. [44] No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. [54] Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.

We believe our dead ones go to heaven when they die
 
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GOI

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#94
Ok which heaven do our loves one go to? Paul speaks of a third heaven where Jesus is from and live!

2 Corinthians 12:2 KJV
[2] I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven.
 
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GOI

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#95
How many forms of spirit is in the bible?

How best to describe this spirit

Job 27:3 KJV
[3] All the while my breath is in me, and the spirit of God is in my nostrils

Or this one

John 6:63 KJV
[63] It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
 
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cfultz3

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How many forms of spirit is in the bible?

How best to describe this spirit

Job 27:3 KJV
[3] All the while my breath is in me, and the spirit of God is in my nostrils

Or this one

John 6:63 KJV
[63] It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
the Heavenly spirits, including the fallen ones.

The spirit which was breathe into us by the Spirit of God. The same spirit which always returns to God.

It is our spirit which makes us alive, seeing that it is our spirit which hearkens to His Spirit. But, our flesh kills.

The words He speaks to us are Spiritual and they promise Life. (Proverbs)
 
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Darkness is of the Devil, the occult, evil, hidden things. Some of our street gangs and meetings people have to worship the devil is of the occult, of dark things.

A man will come who is knowledgeable about dark things. Hitler was knowledgeable about dark things, for instance.

I don't think this prophecy has anything to do with the New Year, order of creation, day to worship God, or birthdays. The darkness Daniel is speaking of is not the inability to see that dark sometimes means in the bible. We have to be careful to not use our reason with scripture so we add so to what God says that we don't get His message.
 
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GOI

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Here is a dark sentence that many don't know or speak about


Proverbs 30:4 KJV
[4] Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell?


What is the name of the Father and Son on the OT? Or is this future!
 
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Here is a dark sentence that many don't know or speak about


Proverbs 30:4 KJV
[4] Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell?


What is the name of the Father and Son on the OT? Or is this future!
Because Christ is spoken of in Proverbs has nothing, biblically, to do with dark sentences. It sounds to me like some pretty fancy mind game.
 
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GOI

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Darkness is of the Devil, the occult, evil, hidden things. Some of our street gangs and meetings people have to worship the devil is of the occult, of dark things.

A man will come who is knowledgeable about dark things. Hitler was knowledgeable about dark things, for instance.

I don't think this prophecy has anything to do with the New Year, order of creation, day to worship God, or birthdays. The darkness Daniel is speaking of is not the inability to see that dark sometimes means in the bible. We have to be careful to not use our reason with scripture so we add so to what God says that we don't get His message.
The man of sin or AoD or the AC what ever we want to call him is a religious man who will know the bible as satan does. He will know things from the bible that we should know because it is written!

Hitler did not know anything from the bible, nor did hitler haw dialogue with satan. Hitler was a wicked man and he was a piece of crap, sorry if I offended hitler fans but to me he is just that. He was not who we are looking for in the last days he is dead, thank God!
Again Paul said that this mans of sin gets his power from satan

2 Thessalonians 2:3-6,8-9 KJV
[3] Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come , except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; [4] Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. [5] Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? [6] And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. [8] And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: [9] Even him , whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

A good example is when satan tried tempting Jesus. Satan used the scriptures to get at The Lord

a dark sentence is something we don't know or understand, this man of sin will understand this bible