Difference between God and Jesus

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phil36 said:
Hi Silas,

Not only was Jesus called the son of God but someone else in scripture called him God, and Jesus used the term for himself 'the son of man;

so stop evading, stop hidng silas.

Who and what is Jesus Christ the son of god? an angel, a creature, a human, a force?
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But what about you?” he asked. “Who do you say I am?”[SUP]16 [/SUP]Simon Peter answered, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.”
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven

I agree totally with that, and Christ told Peter flesh and blood had not revealed it to Peter but his Father in Heaven

If that was enough for Christ, why is it not enough for you?
Have you the right to demand more than did Christ?
Please answer instead of hurling more accusations

Id like you to stop evading and answer the question. And frankly I find it distasteful that someone with your views is on a Christian website, for you obviously believe I am condemned for believing what Christ plainly stated when he walked this earth

And you call me a deciever, blashphemer, a heretic.etc
 
phil36 said:
yes silas does seem to like arius.
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Id like you to stop evading and answer the question. And frankly I find it distasteful that someone with your views is on a Christian website, for you obviously believe I am condemned for believing what Christ plainly stated when he walked this earth


 And you call me a deciever, blashphemer, a heretic.etc
 
GreenNnice said:
I know, philly.

The Lord leads :)

I pray for brothersile, to see Christ in a new light, shining in TRIumphant glory onto brothersile's life, that He can 'see' and appreciate God for all He truly is, the One who came to Earth from heaven via a Holy Spirit seed and who's job was to give glory to God and to do things that His Father in heaven willed Him to do.

Peace to all who have really, actually, demonstrated blessed restraint toward this subject, and, that is God in you, may His Spirit lead you well in speaking in Love to brothersile and quicklyfire and xianconsulter and all who are in need of a shot of revelation from God for understanding who the FAther, the Son, and, the Holy Ghost truly all are. They are One in the same. Just One, not three to worship with different personalities, not one lower than the other, or, greater than the other. they will and always have been One. :)
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I like this thankyou.
 
silas42 said:
But what about you?” he asked. “Who do you say I am?”[SUP]16 [/SUP]Simon Peter answered, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.”
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven

I agree totally with that, and Christ told Peter flesh and blood had not revealed it to Peter but his Father in Heaven

If that was enough for Christ, why is it not enough for you?
Have you the right to demand more than did Christ?
Please answer instead of hurling more accusations

Id like you to stop evading and answer the question. And frankly I find it distasteful that someone with your views is on a Christian website, for you obviously believe I am condemned for believing what Christ plainly stated when he walked this earth

And you call me a deciever, blashphemous, a heretic.
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Careful, si :) You know very well why philly thinks your a deceiver, and, heretic; you deny Jesus is ALSO the one true God, that Jesus was not glorifying Himself, and, that when Jesus let Peter know that he shouldn't worry about John, that if God 'will' that he remains, well, that's called POWER there, baby and it's POWER from the one true God, who is in Jesus PERSON at this time.

Not many of your belief last long in Christian circles such as this, if I remember right, brothersiles, so, realize that your in the great minority on this subject and it will be a 'quick fire' for you IF you continue to preach this way much longer. Again, I am NOT condemning you, I am not judging you, that is for God to do.

You do NOT have to believe the Truth of Jesus our Saviour being our Lord God in the flesh when on Earth and in heaven NOW with God, at His right hand, which means what? He's on the throne, IN PERSON. What? Can't God manifest Himself in two persons in heaven NOW. Hey, He manifested Himself into another TWO people on Earth, first Holy Spirit seed and then Jesus :)

But, be ooooooopen to BELIEVING this Truth presented to you by many brothers, like cfultz, BC, philly, and, maybe, sister ohzone has thrown in a "Love' comment by now, brothersile :) WE ALL Love you, we want you to see the unconfusing Truth of Jesus who is God, where there is NO confusion in His Spirit who leads us ALL. :) this is my prayer for you tonight. :)
 
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cfultz3 said:
Good observation
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lol cfultz3:)
it's that obsession with UK ministers not demanding people believe Jesus is God.
what i could never figure out with ol' Mark54 was....how can a minister preach for long without Scripture making it clear?:confused:

anyways.
more useless Arian apologetics.
off to bed.
 
phil36 said:
Hi silas would you agree with arius?
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All I remember reading was he believed in the divinity of Christ, so I cannot say I am afraid, beyond that

But I am afraid I must repeat.

And frankly I find it distasteful that someone with your views is on a Christian website, for you obviously believe I am condemned for believing what Christ plainly stated when he walked this earth


 And you call me a deciever, blashphemer, a heretic.etc
 
silas42 said:
Id like you to stop evading and answer the question. And frankly I find it distasteful that someone with your views is on a Christian website, for you obviously believe I am condemned for believing what Christ plainly stated when he walked this earth


 And you call me a deciever, blashphemer, a heretic.etc
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I know and there will be no end to it. until a truce is made.
but i carnt see that coming from phil as i have given him plenty of opportunity too but hes right and where wrong.
he thinks its ok to throw accusations and not have them thrown back. ? i think you could say is self righteousness has gone to his head
 
phil36 said:
Hi silas would you agree with arius?
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But what about you?” he asked. “Who do you say I am?”[SUP]16 [/SUP]Simon Peter answered, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.”
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven

I agree totally with that, and Christ told Peter flesh and blood had not revealed it to Peter but his Father in Heaven

If that was enough for Christ, why is it not enough for you?
Have you the right to demand more than did Christ?
Please answer instead of hurling more accusations

Until you actually respond to the above, please do not expect me to respond to you
 
7seven7 said:
Hahahaaaa maybe we just come from a similar past. God bless you, brother. You have an awesome view on faith.
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Thanks seven, I do believe we may have a past in common...Nothing like the trenches to teach a man some respect, and give him an honest love for The Lord...
 
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phil36 said:
some new talk about you here silas..are you arian?
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But what about you?” he asked. “Who do you say I am?”[SUP]16 [/SUP]Simon Peter answered, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.”
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven

I agree totally with that, and Christ told Peter flesh and blood had not revealed it to Peter but his Father in Heaven

If that was enough for Christ, why is it not enough for you?
Have you the right to demand more than did Christ?
Please answer instead of hurling more accusations

Until you actually respond to the above, please do not expect me to respond to you
 
GreenNnice said:
I speak in Love, quicklyfire, but, admittedly, the Lord leads, right now, I'm speaking very TOUGH LOVE . :)
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I Believe you i always love any prayer. and my heart was filled with joy when i herd my name mentioned in your prayer. thank you and may peace with you in the name of the father the son and the holy spirit amen
 
WeStand said:
PSALMS 2

Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?

The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD,and against his anointed, saying, (Phil, you say that you minister; I assume you know the anointed ONE.)

Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.

He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the LORD shall have them in derision.

Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure.

Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.

I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.

Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.

Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potters vessel.

Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth.

Serve the LORD with fear/reverence , and rejoice with trembling.

Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are ALL they that put their trust in him.​
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Does anyone even realize that this is prophesy from OUR FATHER concerning WW1 & WW2; or for that matter does ANYONE even care?

It IS an EXTREMELY strange thing that a place like Canada would have a worldwide reputation as PeaceKeepers, being that it is the youngest country on the planet, I mean really think about this; it would make NO sense at all.

All I knew about it my whole life was that our brothers gave their lives willingly for 2 main reasons; their Freedom of Religion and our Freedom of Speech.

What I didn't KNOW about it was this; Our Freedom of Speech to speak against the exact same subject religions sell, OUR Father LOVE; GOD IS LOVE, and NOT the mushy mushy kind, HIS TRUTH about exactly; where we came from? what were doing here. and an extremely good peak at whats next.

The Lord's Day IS an EXTREMELY gloomy day, a day of great darkness, one should really learn from HIM, LOVE, the answers to these extremely simple questions; or one may find themselves still in need of being taught on that Day of Reckoning in the Spirit.

For the answer to the above question about Canada, is simply Our Father's Will and SINCERE Prayer.

And I am certainly NOT stating that this is the case anymore; BECAUSE of the INSINCERITY of the organized Religious Leaders, as Phil36 so greatly demonstrates.And not the lost sheep that they continue to deceive with their little word games.

Religion IS OVER! because: Christianity IS NOT a Religion/Belief! ITS REALITY; Christianity IS an art to be practised and one should know where to draw the line, according to Our Father's Will and NOT ANY mans opinion.
 
Quickfire said:
I Believe you i always love any prayer. and my heart was filled with joy when i herd my name mentioned in your prayer. thank you and may peace with you in the name of the father the son and the holy spirit amen
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Yes, I pray for us ALL to be filled and used and worked by Him, for we are His 'workmanship,' Scripture says.

God bless you, quicklyfired, for your heart to get to know Him :)
 
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