Difference between God and Jesus

[GreenNnice]

Anyway, time for bed, its very late this side of the pond

LAte, bro? It's morning (in UK)

 

[zone]

Does anyone even realize that this is prophesy from OUR FATHER concerning WW1 & WW2; or for that matter does ANYONE even care?

Psalm 2 is about WWs I & II?

serious?

Acts 4
Peter and John Before the Council
1And as they were speaking to the people, the priests and the captain of the temple and the Sadducees came upon them, 2greatly annoyed because they were teaching the people and proclaiming in Jesus the resurrection from the dead. 3And they arrested them and put them in custody until the next day, for it was already evening. 4But many of those who had heard the word believed, and the number of the men came to about five thousand.

5On the next day their rulers and elders and scribes gathered together in Jerusalem, 6with Annas the high priest and Caiaphas and John and Alexander, and all who were of the high-priestly family. 7And when they had set them in the midst, they inquired, “By what power or by what name did you do this?” 8Then Peter, filled with the Holy Spirit, said to them, “Rulers of the people and elders, 9if we are being examined today concerning a good deed done to a crippled man, by what means this man has been healed, 10let it be known to all of you and to all the people of Israel that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead—by him this man is standing before you well. 11This Jesusa is the stone that was rejected by you, the builders, which has become the cornerstone.b 12And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”

13Now when they saw the boldness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were uneducated, common men, they were astonished. And they recognized that they had been with Jesus. 14But seeing the man who was healed standing beside them, they had nothing to say in opposition. 15But when they had commanded them to leave the council, they conferred with one another, 16saying, “What shall we do with these men? For that a notable sign has been performed through them is evident to all the inhabitants of Jerusalem, and we cannot deny it. 17But in order that it may spread no further among the people, let us warn them to speak no more to anyone in this name.” 18So they called them and charged them not to speak or teach at all in the name of Jesus. 19But Peter and John answered them, “Whether it is right in the sight of God to listen to you rather than to God, you must judge, 20for we cannot but speak of what we have seen and heard.” 21And when they had further threatened them, they let them go, finding no way to punish them, because of the people, for all were praising God for what had happened. 22For the man on whom this sign of healing was performed was more than forty years old.

The Believers Pray for Boldness
23When they were released, they went to their friends and reported what the chief priests and the elders had said to them. 24And when they heard it, they lifted their voices together to God and said, “Sovereign Lord, who made the heaven and the earth and the sea and everything in them, 25who through the mouth of our father David, your servant,c said by the Holy Spirit,

“‘Why did the Gentiles rage,
and the peoples plot in vain?
26 The kings of the earth set themselves,
and the rulers were gathered together,
against the Lord and against his Anointed’d—

27for truly in this city there were gathered together against your holy servant Jesus, whom you anointed, both Herod and Pontius Pilate, along with the Gentiles and the peoples of Israel, 28to do whatever your hand and your plan had predestined to take place. 29And now, Lord, look upon their threats and grant to your servantse to continue to speak your word with all boldness, 30while you stretch out your hand to heal, and signs and wonders are performed through the name of your holy servant Jesus.” 31And when they had prayed, the place in which they were gathered together was shaken, and they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and continued to speak the word of God with boldness.



fulfilled.

 

[WeStand]

This is in response to zones crossnote lol; because I don't possess the skills to cut and chop posts.

I notice that when you respond Cathy that you never take the point of the whole post; only the parts that you enjoy tearing up.

The answer to your question IS Yes.

But its only The Father's Words that you left out; NOT lol

 

[Quickfire]

when your building a wall and you dont put that corner stone up your wall will fall down.

who is the corner its JESUS once you except Jesus as your foundation what gets built up ? its your faith,

 

[WeStand]

when your building a wall and you dont put that corner stone up your wall will fall down.

who is the corner its JESUS once you except Jesus as your foundation what gets built up ? its your faith,

I don't know if this was directed at me or not, but if it was, your wasting your time telling me that, as I don't believe that; I KNOW it.

 

[Godslyric]

Brothers my Faith is not only intact, but has taken me from the gates of hell to a soft place in the lap of Christ... Ive spent years in and out of hospitals, and watched most of the friends I had from my youth put in prisons, and cemeteries, or die from over doses...Ive been in jails where men have shown more respect for each other then what I have seen on this thread...You people have attacked and piled up on one man as if he was a piece of bloody meat for both your entertainment and ingestion...This is Christianity! ? ...I think not, you all boast of being on a higher plane of Spirituality, yet you tare into this man like animals in pursuit of blood, justifying it all you want, but this is just plain wrong! And if you dont see that, Christ may not see you! We are all on a journey to freedom in different stages, you might want to look at the log in your own eyes before attempting to remove the spec from his...I am extremely sorry to speak out like this, but this is just wrong on so many levels...If my post poses any discourse, I apologies, and will be more then happy to leave this place...Because I dont see Jesus anywhere in any of this...Peace.

 

[Quickfire]

Brothers my Faith is not only intact, but has taken me from the gates of hell to a soft place in the lap of Christ... Ive spent years in and out of hospitals, and watched most of the friends I had from my youth put in prisons, and cemeteries, or die from over doses...Ive been in jails where men have shown more respect for each other then what I have seen on this thread...You people have attacked and piled up on one man as if he was a piece of bloody meat for both your entertainment and ingestion...This is Christianity! ? ...I think not, you all boast of being on a higher plane of Spirituality, yet you tare into this man like animals in pursuit of blood, justifying it all you want, but this is just plain wrong! And if you dont see that, Christ may not see you! We are all on a journey to freedom in different stages, you might want to look at the log in your own eyes before attempting to remove the spec from his...I am extremely sorry to speak out like this, but this is just wrong on so many levels...If my post poses any discourse, I apologies, and will be more then happy to leave this place...Because I dont see Jesus anywhere in any of this...Peace.

may peace be with you brother is ok im glad you have let your feeling known its not good to keep that in, i would say this though in the name of the father the son and the holy spirit peace be with you brother, dont worry victory as been won agin to night the enemy as been cast out.
welcome to christian chat brother

 

[Bryancampbell]

Brothers my Faith is not only intact, but has taken me from the gates of hell to a soft place in the lap of Christ... Ive spent years in and out of hospitals, and watched most of the friends I had from my youth put in prisons, and cemeteries, or die from over doses...Ive been in jails where men have shown more respect for each other then what I have seen on this thread...You people have attacked and piled up on one man as if he was a piece of bloody meat for both your entertainment and ingestion...This is Christianity! ? ...I think not, you all boast of being on a higher plane of Spirituality, yet you tare into this man like animals in pursuit of blood, justifying it all you want, but this is just plain wrong! And if you dont see that, Christ may not see you! We are all on a journey to freedom in different stages, you might want to look at the log in your own eyes before attempting to remove the spec from his...I am extremely sorry to speak out like this, but this is just wrong on so many levels...If my post poses any discourse, I apologies, and will be more then happy to leave this place...Because I dont see Jesus anywhere in any of this...Peace.

Now to think about it brother, we should have ignored mark/silas from the beginning, letting no man give ear to him. So that it would be a public shame. I'm not trying to sound self righteous or prideful. But if a man teaches that believing Jesus being God doesn't matter in a believer's belief, then by love we should correct him and then ignore him bitterly if he won't open the door. Sorry for the meanness, it's actually love, if Jesus didn't tolerate teachings like that and told us, especially Paul, to ignore them to bitter shame for trying to confuse the flock, then that's the brother or enemies fault. I don't think we are to call a person brother if they teach another gospel. But thanks for trying to show us love brother. God be with all of us.

 

[Quickfire]

Now to think about it brother, we should have ignored mark/silas from the beginning, letting no man give ear to him. So that it would be a public shame. I'm not trying to sound self righteous or prideful. But if a man teaches that believing Jesus being God doesn't matter in a believer's belief, then by love we should correct him and then ignore him bitterly if he won't open the door. Sorry for the meanness, it's actually love, if Jesus didn't tolerate teachings like that and told us, especially Paul, to ignore them to bitter shame for trying to confuse the flock, then that's the brother or enemies fault. I don't think we are to call a person brother if they teach another gospel. But thanks for trying to show us love brother. God be with all of us.

he never taught that at all im sorry but im going to have to rebuke your comment he clearly states it is important and what he has said is that he does not agree with people saying there not saved if they have not yet come to understand the trinity , so your wrong about him.

he has only quoted bible scripture and not made false accusations like you have just now and others

 

[Bryancampbell]

he never taught that at all im sorry but im going to have to rebuke your comment he clearly states it is important and what he has said is that he does not agree with people saying there not saved if they have not yet ome to understand the trinitye , so your wrong about him.

he has only quoted bible scripture and not made false accusations like you have just now and others

Brother, don't be fooled, for days, I the first, asked him repeatedly what does Son of God mean. Never answered, even through others who disagreed. He claims its essential in salvation to believe Jesus is the Son of God but not God, which makes no sense. Brother, if another teaches that Jesus is not God is still considered under right doctrine, then they teach a lie. Rebuke me in truth, not what you agree to. Trust me he even messaged me. I don't hate the man, I would have ignored him bitterly for not teaching truth.

I'm sorry brother but this ends for him. He was banned I heard for teaching crazy doctrine. Whether true or not, I cannot judge. Only read his posts.

 

[GreenNnice]

he never taught that at all im sorry but im going to have to rebuke your comment he clearly states it is important and what he has said is that he does not agree with people saying there not saved if they have not yet come to understand the trinity , so your wrong about him.

he has only quoted bible scripture and not made false accusations like you have just now and others

Hopefully , I don't sound condescending in my 'tough Love,' from Him to those who are struggling with an understanding of who Jesus, and, the Holy Spirit really are. They are the same, they came to Earth in DIFFERENT form, but, make no mistake, they are the one true God.


There is NO condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. And, who is in us? The Holy Spirit. Who gave us the Holy Spirit? Jesus. Who gave us Jesus? God. The three have DIFFERENT administrations, different placements in history, like Jesus SITS at the right hand of God as we speak, Scripture doesn't lie, He does And, for those who BELIEVE and RECEIEVE , the Holy Spirit is IN them now, living, breathing, helping, comforting, advocating, and, working, and, more.... The power of God is great, the mystery of His godliness is beyond our human thoughts and ways to understand, but, quicklyfire, bro, the peace of God, in this whole "Jesus is God" unconfused 'way' of looking at His Holiness is with a peace that you, I will get from going to Him and being taken under the shelter of His wings

 

[WeStand]

Now to think about it brother, we should have ignored mark/silas from the beginning, letting no man give ear to him. So that it would be a public shame. I'm not trying to sound self righteous or prideful. But if a man teaches that believing Jesus being God doesn't matter in a believer's belief, then by love we should correct him and then ignore him bitterly if he won't open the door. Sorry for the meanness, it's actually love, if Jesus didn't tolerate teachings like that and told us, especially Paul, to ignore them to bitter shame for trying to confuse the flock, then that's the brother or enemies fault. I don't think we are to call a person brother if they teach another gospel. But thanks for trying to show us love brother. God be with all of us.

Hi Brian, it would seem that you don't quite get it, it IS a battle of words and nations, I don't believe that you completely understand why you are born in the SuperPower nation of the end times.

It is NOT by accident I can assure you, and just as this countrys religious oraganizations are polluted with lies, so IS yours and this is NOT by happen stance; Our Father NEVER loses; You should hear what saith The LORD about the Lord, then it ALL makes complete commen sense,

How many times does it say in the Bible? "And I WILL pollute mine inheiritance" not exactly sure myself, But its LOTS.

 

[Bryancampbell]

Hi Brian, it would seem that you don't quite get it, it IS a battle of words and nations, I don't believe that you completely understand why you are born in the SuperPower nation of the end times.

It is NOT by accident I can assure you, and just as this countrys religious oraganizations are polluted with lies, so IS yours and this is NOT by happen stance; Our Father NEVER loses; You should hear what saith The LORD about the Lord, then it ALL makes complete commen sense,

How many times does it say in the Bible? "And I WILL pollute mine inheiritance" not exactly sure myself, But its LOTS.

Hi westand,

I honestly don't believe I know the full truth myself, as I am still learning (i actually believe I'm ignorant because it's true!). Neither do I condemn, but let the Word do its job.

But I know for a fact what my salvation stands on. Silas is one of the first I ever heard teach like this, which isn't surprising. As I grow I know I can discern, only by the Spirit.

 

[phil36]

Brothers my Faith is not only intact, but has taken me from the gates of hell to a soft place in the lap of Christ... Ive spent years in and out of hospitals, and watched most of the friends I had from my youth put in prisons, and cemeteries, or die from over doses...Ive been in jails where men have shown more respect for each other then what I have seen on this thread...You people have attacked and piled up on one man as if he was a piece of bloody meat for both your entertainment and ingestion...This is Christianity! ? ...I think not, you all boast of being on a higher plane of Spirituality, yet you tare into this man like animals in pursuit of blood, justifying it all you want, but this is just plain wrong! And if you dont see that, Christ may not see you! We are all on a journey to freedom in different stages, you might want to look at the log in your own eyes before attempting to remove the spec from his...I am extremely sorry to speak out like this, but this is just wrong on so many levels...If my post poses any discourse, I apologies, and will be more then happy to leave this place...Because I dont see Jesus anywhere in any of this...Peace.

I agree with Bryan,

Silas/Mark should have been ignored from the start.

But is it loving to agree with a false belief in god..? I often hear things like, oh we need to just get along..lets be united.. ask yourself what are you uniting yourself with?

No one here has boasted of a higher plane of spirituality, maybe except yourself as your condemning us, however I take your post as you have meant it.

Its posts like you like your godslyric that encourage these guys.

God Bless

 

[cfultz3]

Brothers my Faith is not only intact, but has taken me from the gates of hell to a soft place in the lap of Christ... Ive spent years in and out of hospitals, and watched most of the friends I had from my youth put in prisons, and cemeteries, or die from over doses...Ive been in jails where men have shown more respect for each other then what I have seen on this thread...You people have attacked and piled up on one man as if he was a piece of bloody meat for both your entertainment and ingestion...This is Christianity! ? ...I think not, you all boast of being on a higher plane of Spirituality, yet you tare into this man like animals in pursuit of blood, justifying it all you want, but this is just plain wrong! And if you dont see that, Christ may not see you! We are all on a journey to freedom in different stages, you might want to look at the log in your own eyes before attempting to remove the spec from his...I am extremely sorry to speak out like this, but this is just wrong on so many levels...If my post poses any discourse, I apologies, and will be more then happy to leave this place...Because I dont see Jesus anywhere in any of this...Peace.

You are saying every single person who spoke to mark torn into him as a bloody piece of meat and for our entertainment and ingestion? It is not also wrong to include all when all can see that not all did this?

And, on his part, did he act a saint?

 

[cfultz3]

You are saying every single person who spoke to mark torn into him as a bloody piece of meat and for our entertainment and ingestion? It is not also wrong to include all when all can see that not all did this?

And, on his part, did he act a saint?

Perhaps, if you knew he has been at this for many many months, then you will see that he is not so innocent.

 

[phil36]

mind you a few hundred years ago they would have probably burned him at the stake

 

[WeStand]

Hi westand,

I honestly don't believe I know the full truth myself, as I am still learning (i actually believe I'm ignorant because it's true!). Neither do I condemn, but let the Word do its job.

But I know for a fact what my salvation stands on. Silas is one of the first I ever heard teach like this, which isn't surprising. As I grow I know I can discern, only by the Spirit.

Well its The Father's Words of Truth. I certainly 2nd witness Silas as he is not even saying that Christ isn't GOD, its the ONLY way TO GOD ALMIGHTY, LOVE, a HUMONGEOUS Spirit of BEING, that NO ONE will EVER BE! we are ALL just a part of Him and HIS! Wisdom/Comforter/Holy Spirit that have children of common-sense; and that IS what religion IS abusing at this time of God's Plan; Our common sense about these three basic and innocent questions.

Where did we and ALL this creation come from?

What precisely are we ALL doing here?

And what is Next?

ALL explained in PRECISE detail in the Torah/The Original Fire/The Ancient Kryptonite/The Immoveable Force/Our Father's Words in Hebrew.

 

[Quickfire]

oh well maybe there is still some hope ill just forget about it now. there was no end to the argument so i think it was for the best that someone should have to go.
I never saw it like the way you have briancambel or other people.
tomorrow is a new day and hopefully we can put this behind us and move on.
Maybe he did not mean it like the way you think he has brian. anyways i dont want to continue this now no more and i think anymore talk about him would be unfair seeing as he is not here to defend him self.

 

[phil36]

Well its The Father's Words of Truth. I certainly 2nd witness Silas as he is not even saying that Christ isn't GOD, its the ONLY way TO GOD ALMIGHTY, LOVE, a HUMONGEOUS Spirit of BEING, that NO ONE will EVER BE! we are ALL just a part of Him and HIS! Wisdom/Comforter/Holy Spirit that have children of common-sense; and that IS what religion IS abusing at this time of God's Plan; Our common sense about these three basic and innocent questions.

Where did we and ALL this creation come from?

What precisely are we ALL doing here?

And what is Next?

ALL explained in PRECISE detail in the Torah/The Original Fire/The Ancient Kryptonite/The Immoveable Force/Our Father's Words in Hebrew.

I think you will find you are wrong westand!!! over his posts he said quite a lot actually you just have to read the small bits he threw in now and again.