Do Catholics and Muslims worship the same God?

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Apostol2013

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no they both worship the devil the father of lies catholics pray to idols and mary even worship her God hates idolatry and is the muslims believe in killing is good and would get you in heaven but jesus teaches us to forgive and love our enemies and also said I am the truth the way and the light no one comes to the father except through me when he said that he answered alot
 
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no but wouldnt want anyway
 
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Apostol2013 said:
no they both worship the devil the father of lies catholics pray to idols and mary even worship her God hates idolatry and is the muslims believe in killing is good and would get you in heaven but jesus teaches us to forgive and love our enemies and also said I am the truth the way and the light no one comes to the father except through me when he said that he answered alot
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Thanks for telling me who I worship. lol Get your head checked. You're halucinating
 
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Try reading your own bible and learn true doctrine for the catechism also says that the popes word is above God and has authority to change the word of God telling us he is above God ,and john paul2 said dont go to god for forgiveness come to me and pope benedit said that he is God in the flesh as many popes had said in the past and noted in history ,and jesus also said call no man your father except your father who is in heaven as he warned of false christ to com my friend the word of Jesus will only redeem you throught his blood on the cross
 
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Apostol2013 said:
Try reading your own bible and learn true doctrine for the catechism also says that the popes word is above God and has authority to change the word of God telling us he is above God ,and john paul2 said dont go to god for forgiveness come to me and pope benedit said that he is God in the flesh as many popes had said in the past and noted in history ,and jesus also said call no man your father except your father who is in heaven as he warned of false christ to com my friend the word of Jesus will only redeem you throught his blood on the cross
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Ok buddy. Show me where the popes said these things.
 
Hizikyah

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Apostol2013 said:
Try reading your own bible and learn true doctrine for the catechism also says that the popes word is above God and has authority to change the word of God telling us he is above God ,and john paul2 said dont go to god for forgiveness come to me and pope benedit said that he is God in the flesh as many popes had said in the past and noted in history ,and jesus also said call no man your father except your father who is in heaven as he warned of false christ to com my friend the word of Jesus will only redeem you throught his blood on the cross
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this is true

Matthew 23:9"and ye may not call [any] your father on the earth, for one is your Father, who is in the heavens"


THE CATHOLIC CHURCH CLAIMS:

"The Pope is of great authority and power that he can modify, explain, or interpret even divine laws... The Pope can modify divine law, since his power is not of man, but of God, and he acts as vicegerent of God upon earth." -Lucius Ferraris, Prompta Ribliotheca, "Papa," art. 2, translated.

Acts 5:29, "...We must obey Yahweh rather than men."
 
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Hizikyah said:
THE CATHOLIC CHURCH CLAIMS:

"The Pope is of great authority and power that he can modify, explain, or interpret even divine laws... The Pope can modify divine law, since his power is not of man, but of God, and he acts as vicegerent of God upon earth." -Lucius Ferraris, Prompta Ribliotheca, "Papa," art. 2, translated.
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Can you please give me the link where you got this from?
 
Hizikyah

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i typed more but it erased i will retype and re link other links 1 min
 
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i typed more but it erased i will retype and re link other links 1 min
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No that's ok. I found it with the translation. And I am shocked! Please give me a day or two to look into this vigorously and I will get back to you. I want to research the background of the author of this. Do you know who he is?
 
Hizikyah

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Papal Power - Catholic Answers Forums

Pope claims to be God

i also have this and more info in actual books i own, and i have the "original catholic encyclopedia" and this info and much more is in there so i know it is legit.

not being funny but i can post more similar info if you are interested, i will even get page numbers, of pictures of the pages from encyclopedia Yahweh willing, ifyou want, again im saying this, serious, not funny, brother to brother
 
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7seven7 said:
No that's ok. I found it with the translation. And I am shocked! Please give me a day or two to look into this vigorously and I will get back to you. I want to research the background of the author of this. Do you know who he is?
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i cant read latin so i cant say everything about it, but i do have a lot of material on similar stuff
 
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i cant read latin so i cant say everything about it, but i do have a lot of material on similar stuff
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OK, bro, I can't find the source of this - I just tried looking at the Vatican website and other Catholic websites but it's not there. The only sites that are sharing this document are the smaller new ministries that are teaching that Catholics are going to be the end of the world.
 
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i cant read latin so i cant say everything about it, but i do have a lot of material on similar stuff
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I really can't find this anywhere on any Catholic websites to check if it has been approved by the Vatican. I think it might be bogus. I also can't find the same views in any of the teachings of the Catholic Church. You know that I am telling the truth because I was more than willing to be critical about it for the sake of truth.
 
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18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. note

20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: note

21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. note
 
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Yea i knoe that your heart is good do as i did i know you want to know truth , i did away with everything i learned or was taught and fasted forty days in the scriptures and came out fullfilled with knowledge it may work for you
 
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still waiting for someone to post the list on how do Catholics worship God in comparison how they give honor to mary.

let us understand and let us reason.
 
Apostol2013

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Revelation 3

1 And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.

2 Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die: for I have not found thy works perfect before God.

3 Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.

4 Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy.

5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.

6 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches. The churches that say they are christians but only by Name but by works are the very devil tus i point out only to the edificaton of the church i give testimony to my family was all catholic but though grace we all have rejected that whore wich is despised so much beyond repair has become a den of unclean spirits giving their allegiance to the beast i am not timid but speak with authority anointed to speak truth that no one will be saved unless they remain in Christ snd wait as a chast virgin tothe Lord
 
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watcher2013 said:
From the Catechism of Catholic Church

841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."[SUP]330[/SUP]

Based from the above catechism and as highlighted in red, Do Catholics and Muslims worship the same god?
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No they don't as the Muslims don't obey God's Word, which is Jesus the Christ. Jesus said He that believeth on me to be the Begotten Son of God who IS also God shall be saved. The Roman Catholics believe this, the Muslims don't. End of story.
 
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Apostol2013 said:
Revelation 3

1 And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.

2 Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die: for I have not found thy works perfect before God.

3 Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.

4 Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy.

5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.

6 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches. The churches that say they are christians but only by Name but by works are the very devil tus i point out only to the edificaton of the church i give testimony to my family was all catholic but though grace we all have rejected that whore wich is despised so much beyond repair has become a den of unclean spirits giving their allegiance to the beast i am not timid but speak with authority anointed to speak truth that no one will be saved unless they remain in Christ snd wait as a chast virgin tothe Lord
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You will know them by their Works of Faith. I know many RCs with great Works of Faith. But not every one in any denomination will be saved. God don't look at the outward appearance, He don't look at your denomination, but rather the heart of each person. We have worldly works and we have Works of Faith, in the end the true Christians won't be judged, but rather, those two types of works will be put to the test of fire and the worldly works will burn up and the Works of faith which will stand the fire will be rewarded accordingly.
 
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