Proof of a Future Millennial Kingdom

[zone]

Nothing in this post or any other post points to the kingdom of God reigning on the earth. We seek that kingdom and pray that it come on earth as it is in heaven, but it's in heaven right now and is coming in the future with the second coming when Christ will reign for 1,000 years on earth. We have seen glimpses of this kingdom demonstrated in power but not reigning over nations. Reigning over nations is far from having the gospel preached in all the world. Reigning over nations is when all nations come under your rule and authority ans judgment is executed under that rule. No such thing exists on the earth and the church does not represent any rule over nations. In order for the kingdom of God to be able to reign on the earth, Satan must be bound for that period of time unable to deceive the nations that the kingdom is reigning over. Then Satan will be loosed for a time at the end of the kingdom age.

ya i know the story.
satan isn't bound now.

and you think Jesus is going to sit on a throne smashing people.

when it's about God's Love and salvation of souls.


you never did say where the Plan B gentile church is during the Millennium.
Israel is ruling, right?

where'd the church go?
anyways.....more later (again)

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Dispensationalists see God as pursuing two distinct purposes throughout history, one related to an earthly goal and an earthly people (the Jews), the other to heavenly goals and a heavenly people (the church).Dispensationalists believe that in the Old Testament God promised the Jewish people an earthly kingdom ruled by Messiah ben David, and that when Christ came He offered this prophesied kingdom to the Jews. When the Jews of the time rejected Christ and the earthly kingdom, the promise was postponed, and the "mystery form" of the kingdom - the church - was established.

The church, according to dispensational doctrine, was unforeseen in the Old Testament and constitutes a "parenthesis" in God's plan for Israel. In the future, the distinction between Jew and Gentile will be reestablished and will continue throughout all eternity. The "parenthesis", or church age, will end at the rapture when Christ comes invisibly to take all believers (excepting OT saints) to heaven to celebrate the "marriage feast of the Lamb" with Christ for a period of seven years.God's program for the Jews then resumes with the tribulation, Antichrist, bowls of wrath, 144,000 Jews preaching the Gospel of the Kingdom, and Armageddon.

Then, the Second (third, if you count the preTrib rapture) Coming, the instantaneous conversion of the entire nation of Israel, the resurrection of the Tribulation and Old Testament saints, and the "sheep and goats" judgment. The "goats" will be cast into hell, the "sheep" and the believing Jews will enter the millennium in natural human bodies, marrying, reproducing, and dying. The "mystery church" and the resurrected Tribulation and Old Testament saints will live in the heavenly Jerusalem suspended above the earthly city. This millennium will be a time of great peace and prosperity, with Christ ruling on David's throne. After 1,000 yrs. Satan will be released from the chain with which he had been bound at the beginning of the millennium and many of the children born to the "sheep" and the Israelites will follow him in revolt against Christ.

The King will again destroy His enemies, followed by another resurrection of the righteous, another resurrection of the unrighteous, a final judgment, and at last the New Heavens and the New Earth.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Not mocking; just astonished that you believe things that directly contradict what GOD has said. He clearly has stated that only a remnant of natural Israel would be saved. That remnant comprised of Judah and Israel was saved at Pentecost (and afterwards), making one new man out of two. Israel is no longer a divided kingdom.

And I am completely amazed that you contradict what God said.

1. He said he would bring them ALL back from captivity. Has yet to happen
2. he said he would make them one NATION again. As yet has not happened
3. He said they would turn from their sin. They were at the time in sin, and even up till today are still in sin/. This has not happened yet.

Yes he said a remnant would be saved. and KEPT. But he also said at one time, ALL ISRAEL will be saved. Your remnant does not equal one nation. nor does it equal ALL Israel.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

It's really hard getting a handle on what you are trying to say when you are all over the place.

How can I be all over the place. when I took what the prophesy said and asked you to show how that was fulfilled? And all you do is make attack. you can;t even show me.. If anything it is you who are all over the place. Your not answering questions, your just beating around the bush and making accusations with no meat.

It's a fact that at Pentecost Israel and Judah were reunited into one kingdom in Christ; and a fact that they that were dead, lived.

Oh really? Thats funny, paul fought against them continually from the time the church started. They were not made one, this is a false catholic fable which unfortunately came with many of the protestors. Your trying to interpret SOME with ALL. you cant do this. the prophesy does not allow it. Israel NEVER stopped their sin, and because of it was completely demolished in 70 ad.. And you want to say they were made 1?? lol try again!

I really don't know what to say to someone who stumbles over the word all. The Greek word that is translated all doesn't always mean every. But to you it seems to mean every. What can I say? That's just wrong.

my friend. I do not see how you even stumble over the english text. One does not need to greek to interpret this/

Made one nation
Stop sin
One king
Back IN THEIR LAND

Even if you try to symbolise the first three. the last one destroys your interpretation. they were not brought back into the land where their fathers lives. Even the Jews who lived in the gentile nations Paul brought to Christ was not returned. And in 70 AD. they were completely removed.

Stop trying to think so much, and just read the text. You will see your belief of pentecost is seriously flawed.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

Stop trying to think so much, and just read the text. You will see your belief of pentecost is seriously flawed.

If you just 'read the text', you will come up with nonsensical ideas (like you are doing here). The bible is a translation. That means it was filtered through other men's minds than the ones who wrote it in other languages. Those who don't investigate beyond merely 'reading the text' are doomed to misunderstandings. Such is the case with your taking the word all at face value to mean every. Not every person in Israel was Israel, yet all Israel will be saved. Makes perfect sense when one has spiritual vision.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

If you just 'read the text', you will come up with nonsensical ideas (like you are doing here).

How would you know?

Was it you who wrote the OT text and asked me how it was interpreted? No

Was it you me who was asked by showing the OT text how it was fulfilled by you? No (I asked you)

And you want me to listen to you?

The bible is a translation. That means it was filtered through other men's minds than the ones who wrote it in other languages. Those who don't investigate beyond merely 'reading the text' are doomed to misunderstandings. Such is the case with your taking the word all at face value to mean every. Not every person in Israel was Israel, yet all Israel will be saved. Makes perfect sense when one has spiritual vision.

lol.. And there you go again running around bushes and not answrering the question.

Rom 11 shows us. A remnant is being saved (long long after pentecost) but at some point, ALL isreal will be saved.

Your having them all saved at pentecost.

Are you going to answer my questions or keep sidestepping them?

Here they are again. My questions are in Blue


what does that have to do with this?

[SUP]21 [/SUP]“Then say to them, ‘Thus says the Lord God: “Surely I will take the children of Israel from among the nations, wherever they have gone, and will gather them from every side and bring them into their own land;

this did not happen at pentecost..

I will make them one nation in the land, on the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king over them all; they shall no longer be two nations, nor shall they ever be divided into two kingdoms again.

this has never happened yet, let alone at pentecost!!

[SUP]23 [/SUP]They shall not defile themselves anymore with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions; but I will deliver them from all their dwelling places in which they have sinned, and will cleanse them. Then they shall be My people, and I will be their God.

This certainly did not happen.

1. They continued in their transgressions and idol worship.
2. They fought the church, and tried to stop its growth even as far as the furthest gentile nation.
3. They were not restored. In Fact just a few years later they were completely scattered throughout the whole world due to THEIR SIN. Which The prophet said would never again happen.
4. They are still fighting against the church, Still committing transgressions, and still playing with their idols today.

[SUP]24 [/SUP]“David My servant shall be king over them, and they shall all have one shepherd; they shall also walk in My judgments and observe My statutes, and do them. [SUP]25 [/SUP]Then they shall dwell in the land that I have given to Jacob My servant, where your fathers dwelt; and they shall dwell there, they, their children, and their children’s children, forever;

This certainly did not happen. Again, in 70 ad they were scattered completely. And did not live in the land God gave to their fathers and the land they lived in. And certainly no king (christ) reigned over them.

So again, I ask. How can you say this??


you have two choices..

1. Show me you wish to continue this discussion by showing me how I was wrong in each point. and how each point was fulfilled at pentecost (something you have yet to do)
2. Continue to fail to answer. Instead make attacks and claims which are not true. and show me you have NO DESIRE to discuss this issue. At which case. I will move on. because there would be no use going any further!

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

you have two choices..1. Show me you wish to continue this discussion by showing me how I was wrong in each point. and how each point was fulfilled at pentecost (something you have yet to do)
2. Continue to fail to answer. Instead make attacks and claims which are not true. and show me you have NO DESIRE to discuss this issue. At which case. I will move on. because there would be no use going any further!

By all means, please move on. I honestly don't like having a discussion with someone who IMO can't see his nose in front of his face.

• GOD gathered sons of Israel from all nations together in Jerusalem at Pentecost; but you can't see that.

• 3000 sons of Israel and Judah were reunited together into one kingdom under one king at Pentecost; but you can't see that.

• The remnant of Israel cast away their idols to worship the one true GOD and were cleansed of their sins at Pentecost; but you can't see that.

• Not all Israel is Israel; but you can't see that.

This is an example IMO of what I mentioned to zone about some who seem to treat the manifestation of the kingdom of GOD at Pentecost as a side note to rest of the bible. What happened at Pentecost was greater than all of the prophets and their writings combined because 1) it fulfilled a great deal of what they wrote about, and 2) Jesus said the least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than any who preceded it. Peter, Paul... all of them were greater than all of the prophets; and the apostles' interpretations of prophecy take precedence over what appears to be written in them. Yet there are those who seem to want to subject the apostles' teachings to their own understanding gained from 'just reading the text' of prophecy.

 

[BradC]

ya i know the story.
satan isn't bound now.

and you think Jesus is going to sit on a throne smashing people.

when it's about God's Love and salvation of souls.


you never did say where the Plan B gentile church is during the Millennium.
Israel is ruling, right?

where'd the church go?
anyways.....more later (again)

..................

Dispensationalists see God as pursuing two distinct purposes throughout history, one related to an earthly goal and an earthly people (the Jews), the other to heavenly goals and a heavenly people (the church).Dispensationalists believe that in the Old Testament God promised the Jewish people an earthly kingdom ruled by Messiah ben David, and that when Christ came He offered this prophesied kingdom to the Jews. When the Jews of the time rejected Christ and the earthly kingdom, the promise was postponed, and the "mystery form" of the kingdom - the church - was established.

The church, according to dispensational doctrine, was unforeseen in the Old Testament and constitutes a "parenthesis" in God's plan for Israel. In the future, the distinction between Jew and Gentile will be reestablished and will continue throughout all eternity. The "parenthesis", or church age, will end at the rapture when Christ comes invisibly to take all believers (excepting OT saints) to heaven to celebrate the "marriage feast of the Lamb" with Christ for a period of seven years.God's program for the Jews then resumes with the tribulation, Antichrist, bowls of wrath, 144,000 Jews preaching the Gospel of the Kingdom, and Armageddon.

Then, the Second (third, if you count the preTrib rapture) Coming, the instantaneous conversion of the entire nation of Israel, the resurrection of the Tribulation and Old Testament saints, and the "sheep and goats" judgment. The "goats" will be cast into hell, the "sheep" and the believing Jews will enter the millennium in natural human bodies, marrying, reproducing, and dying. The "mystery church" and the resurrected Tribulation and Old Testament saints will live in the heavenly Jerusalem suspended above the earthly city. This millennium will be a time of great peace and prosperity, with Christ ruling on David's throne. After 1,000 yrs. Satan will be released from the chain with which he had been bound at the beginning of the millennium and many of the children born to the "sheep" and the Israelites will follow him in revolt against Christ.

The King will again destroy His enemies, followed by another resurrection of the righteous, another resurrection of the unrighteous, a final judgment, and at last the New Heavens and the New Earth.

We don't know the story until we believe it. We don't know God and the Lord Jesus Christ until we believe, because we don't receive the Spirit of God who reveals both the Father and the Son until we believe. So we can't say that we know a specific aspect of the truth until we believe it by faith. We reject what we do not believe and we forfeit the grace and knowledge of our Lord that is given that we might grow up in Christ.

 

[zone]

We don't know the story until we believe it. We don't know God and the Lord Jesus Christ until we believe, because we don't receive the Spirit of God who reveals both the Father and the Son until we believe. So we can't say that we know a specific aspect of the truth until we believe it by faith. We reject what we do not believe and we forfeit the grace and knowledge of our Lord that is given that we might grow up in Christ.

you might.
i reject pretribulation rapture; a future 1,000 year mystery reign (just outright denial of the Lord being King over all right now) and any distinction between jew & gentile since The Cross.

this whole theory hinges on a total misunderstanding of two passages.

Romans 9-11
and Revelation 20.

it's awful.

 

[BradC]

you might.
i reject pretribulation rapture; a future 1,000 year mystery reign (just outright denial of the Lord being King over all right now) and any distinction between jew & gentile since The Cross.

this whole theory hinges on a total misunderstanding of two passages.

Romans 9-11
and Revelation 20.

it's awful.

We don't deny that Christ is reigning in heaven at the right hand of God as well as the head of the church body. Only some Jews and Gentiles have been made one through the cross by faith, but not all until the time of the Gentiles is fulfilled which has been going on for the past 2,000 years plus. Romans 9-11 and Rev 20:1-6 are very clear to some but a stumbling block to others.

When we know the truth through the Spirit, it sets and makes us free without controversy or debate. There are no exceptions, not with you nor with me.

1 Cor 2:11-16 11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? but we have the mind of Christ.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

a future 1,000 year mystery reign (just outright denial of the Lord being King over all right now)

puhleeeze... what a misrepresentation...

 

[zone]

We don't deny that Christ is reigning in heaven at the right hand of God as well as the head of the church body. Only some Jews and Gentiles have been made one through the cross by faith, but not all until the time of the Gentiles is fulfilled

the time of the gentiles is fulfilled? HUH?
you think this is the "mystery gentile church age" God called when Israel reject Jesus?
why?

it's 70 AD and Titus and the Romans (Daniel 2, 7, 9)


Luke 21:24
23"Woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days; for there will be great distress upon the land and wrath to this people; 24and they will fall by the edge of the sword, and will be led captive into all the nations; and Jerusalem will be trampled under foot by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.

~

5. And now did the Idumeans make an acclamation to what Simon had said; but Jesus went away sorrowful, as seeing that the Idumeans were against all moderate counsels, and that the city was besieged on both sides. Nor indeed were the minds of the Idumeans at rest; for they were in a rage at the injury that had been offered them by their exclusion out of the city; and when they thought the zealots had been strong, but saw nothing of theirs to support them, they were in doubt about the matter, and many of them repented that they had come thither. But the shame that would attend them in case they returned without doing any thing at all, so far overcame that their repentance, that they lay all night before the wall, though in a very bad encampment; for there broke out a prodigious storm in the night, with the utmost violence, and very strong winds, with the largest showers of rain, with continued lightnings, terrible thunderings, and amazing concussions and bellowings of the earth, that was in an earthquake. These things were a manifest indication that some destruction was coming upon men, when the system of the world was put into this disorder; and any one would guess that these wonders foreshowed some grand calamities that were coming.


- Flavius Josephus, The History of the Destruction of Jerusalem, Book IV, Chapter IV, Section 5

 

[zone]

puhleeeze... what a misrepresentation...

well you may have some other explanation.
BradC holds to pretribulation rapture of a gentile church parenthesis (Plan B) in God's plan which is really about flesh Israel who apparently still has LAND coming (Plan A).

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

Originally Posted by HeRoseFromTheDead

puhleeeze... what a misrepresentation...

well you may have some other explanation.

Do you mind if I ask you a question? Is satan still in heaven?

 

[zone]

Do you mind if I ask you a question? Is satan still in heaven?

no..................

 

[eternally-gratefull]

By all means, please move on. I honestly don't like having a discussion with someone who IMO can't see his nose in front of his face.

Yet again with attack.

Yes I will move on. You can;t back your own things against me. All you can do is attack.

• GOD gathered sons of Israel from all nations together in Jerusalem at Pentecost; but you can't see that.

Yes, I can see that, They came together every year at this time. It was nothing new. So this alone shows your theory is flawed. Not to mention. Again Ezekiel says he will gather them ALL and put them back into their land where they will live. But you do not want to see this. and this is point 1 of why you will not answer me.

• 3000 sons of Israel and Judah were reunited together into one kingdom under one king at Pentecost; but you can't see that.

And they were gathered back to their land?? I did not think so.. Your point once again is proven flawed. which again is why you do not want to look at my questions and answer them point by point..

• The remnant of Israel cast away their idols to worship the one true GOD and were cleansed of their sins at Pentecost; but you can't see that.

again flawed. But you do not want to see this. The remant was ALWAYS promised to be kept.. God always kept a remnant. so again this is nothing new. t And as I showed. the remnant would continue until a time in human history, at which point ALL ISRAEL will be saved (blind in part)

but again, you do not want to see this

• Not all Israel is Israel; but you can't see that.

As far as salvation is concerned, Your right. (romans 9)

But we are not talking about salvation, we are talking about prophesy concerning the NATION of Isreal. Yet again, you or not want to see this. Nor the fact that what Paul said concerning the nation of Israel. They are blind in part (long after pentecost. and even until today) but there will come a time when they all will repent, and all will be saved, in fulfilment of the OT prophesies we are speaking of..(rom 11)

This is an example IMO of what I mentioned to zone about some who seem to treat the manifestation of the kingdom of GOD at Pentecost as a side note to rest of the bible. What happened at Pentecost was greater than all of the prophets and their writings combined because 1) it fulfilled a great deal of what they wrote about, and 2) Jesus said the least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than any who preceded it. Peter, Paul... all of them were greater than all of the prophets; and the apostles' interpretations of prophecy take precedence over what appears to be written in them. Yet there are those who seem to want to subject the apostles' teachings to their own understanding gained from 'just reading the text' of prophecy.

Thats the problem.

I agree with 90%. I believe the cross and the ressurection was the greatest thing. However. why are we focusing on this?

1. People from adam to us are all saved the same way
2. There has always been only one gospel. Faith in God and his promise of salvation based on his work. not ours.
3. Heaven is dependant on this. that is the gospel.

but we are not talking about the gospel here.

daniel 9. Ezekials prophesies, jeremiahs prophesies and all the rest concerning the NATION of Israel and ITS standing in HUMAN HISTORY (not eternity) is the discussion. NOT the gospel.

People want to replace Israel. Israel NEVER HAD sole possession of the gospel. Gentiles were and have been saved ALL through history, EVEN in the time of Israel.

What the church did is take the job of representing god on earth and the gentile church, vs the israel church of the OT. But God makes it clear. The Gentile church will fall away, at which time, Israel will repent, and be given the honor of representing God to gentiles again. Only this time, they will get it right!

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Do you mind if I ask you a question? Is satan still in heaven?

If he is not in heaven, Who accuses the saints? WHo is it that sits at the right hand of God who defends his children against the accusations made from the accuser of the saints?

If Satan is not in heaven, there is no one who can accuse us.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

Originally Posted by HeRoseFromTheDead

Is satan still in heaven?

no..................

Then how is it that Paul wrote?

Eph 3:10 To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in the heavenlies might be known the manifold wisdom of God through the assembly.

Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in the heavenlies.
​

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

If he is not in heaven, Who accuses the saints? WHo is it that sits at the right hand of God who defends his children against the accusations made from the accuser of the saints?

If Satan is not in heaven, there is no one who can accuse us.

I agree. However, those who hold to amil beliefs think that Revelation has been fulfilled completely.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

And as I showed. the remnant would continue until a time in human history, at which point ALL ISRAEL will be saved

This is utter nonsense. You cannot show me a single example in scripture that supports this idea. And it directly contradicts everything Paul said in Romans 9-11.

 

[zone]

Then how is it that Paul wrote?

Eph 3:10 To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in the heavenlies might be known the manifold wisdom of God through the assembly.

Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in the heavenlies.
​

the heavenlies doesn't have to mean God's Throne room.

Luke 10:18
And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning {f} fall from heaven.

(f) Paul writes that the location of the devil and his angels is in the air, as is found in Eph 6:12, and he is said to be cast down from there by force, when his power is abolished by the voice of the Gospel - Geneva


amillennialism says satan was bound or restrained in some way at the Cross and resurrection.

Jesus said He had already bound him (in some fashion) before he went to the cross.
Jesus is stronger than satan (the strong man) who He (Jesus) bound up in order to plunder his (satan's) house (kingdom)

Matthew 12
22Then a demon-oppressed man who was blind and mute was brought to him, and he healed him, so that the man spoke and saw. 23And all the people were amazed, and said, “Can this be the Son of David?” 24But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, “It is only by Beelzebul, the prince of demons, that this man casts out demons.” 25Knowing their thoughts, he said to them, “Every kingdom divided against itself is laid waste, and no city or house divided against itself will stand. 26And if Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then will his kingdom stand? 27And if I cast out demons by Beelzebul, by whom do your sons cast them out? Therefore they will be your judges. 28But if it is by the Spirit of God that I cast out demons, then the kingdom of God has come upon you. 29Or how can someone enter a strong man’s house and plunder his goods, unless he first binds the strong man? Then indeed he may plunder his house.

Mark 3:27
In fact, no one can enter a strong man's house without first tying him up. Then he can plunder the strong man's house.

Jesus plundered satan's house as he cast demons out - people literally possessed (owned) by satan.

Luke 4:33
In the synagogue there was a man possessed by the spirit of an unclean demon, and he cried out with a loud voice

echó: to have, hold
Original Word: ἔχω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: echó
Phonetic Spelling: (ekh'-o)
Short Definition: I have, hold, possess
Definition: I have, hold, possess.


John 12:31
Now is the judgment of this world; now will the ruler of this world be cast out.

which is in perfect keeping with the symbolic representation here in Revelation 20:

Revelation 20:1
1Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, holding the key of the abyss and a great chain in his hand. 2And he laid hold of the dragon, the serpent of old, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years

"the thousand years" (a figurative term) began at the First Advent (Jesus clearly told The Pharisees he had bound satan), and continues to just prior to the Second Advent, at which time, satan is "released", for a little season, for the single purpose mentioned:

Revelation 20
7And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be released from his prison 8and will come out to deceive the nations that are at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle; their number is like the sand of the sea. 9And they marched up over the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, but fire came down from heavenb and consumed them, 10and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

note:

amillennialism does not say satan can't do anything. it agrees only with what Rev 20 says - that satan was bound, restrained from deceiving the nations. that's all we are told (whether you have that 1,000 years after the Second Advent or not):

1Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, holding in his hand the key to the bottomless pita and a great chain. 2And he seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years, 3and threw him into the pit, and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he might not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were ended. After that he must be released for a little while....:

[And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be released from his prison 8and will come out to deceive the nations]...for a little while.

......

alternatively, if you have him still in heaven before God accusing the brethren:

Revelation 12
9And the great dragon was thrown down, the serpent of old who is called the devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him. 10Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, "Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God and the authority of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, he who accuses them before our God day and night. 11"And they overcame him because of the blood of the Lamb and because of the word of their testimony, and they did not love their life even when faced with death.

who is saying the accuser of our brethren? the spirits (souls) of those in heaven? angels? they are not accused while in heaven. he was there accusing the brethren who are on earth.

11"And they overcame him because of the blood of the Lamb and because of the word of their testimony, and they did not love their life even when faced with death. 12"For this reason, rejoice, O heavens and you who dwell in them. Woe to the earth and the sea, because the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, knowing that he has only a short time."



we're simply not told where satan is, or how he operates now, other than that Jesus overcame him.
he is not totally powerless yet (clearly God uses satan still).

Hebrews 2:15
14Therefore, since the children share in flesh and blood, He Himself likewise also partook of the same, that through death He might render powerless him who had the power of death, that is, the devil, 15and might free those who through fear of death were subject to slavery all their lives. 16For assuredly He does not give help to angels, but He gives help to the descendant of Abraham.

it says here that Jesus rendered satan powerless - through His own death.

so amillennialism simply agrees with what is written.
that he is cast out; bound in some way; not totally off the scene; will be released to deceive the nations.

anything more is speculation, and we don't go there.
it says what it says.