My journey with having an evil spirit cast out of me

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megaman125

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Couple disclaimers: This is going to be a long post, and it gets a bit dark.

I grew up in a Lutheran church, stopped going to church by the 8[SUP]th[/SUP] grade. By high school I was an atheist, I didn’t believe God existed. Most importantly was my hatred of people. In high school, I was as much of a lone wolf as someone can get. I had very few friends, and I’m using that term very loosely here. They were more like a group of people I sat with at lunch and told dirty jokes with. I didn’t depend on them for anything, and I certainly didn’t share anything personal with them.

My high school was fairly large, so I generally didn’t have any classes with those people. So most of the time I sat in class quiet and alone. I didn’t mind being alone, since I didn’t like people one bit. I was very cold and emotionless towards others. Yes, I was suicidal for a short time, got counseling, and what I took away from that was that I shouldn’t take my frustrations out on myself, I should take them out on other people. I valued others as nothing. And I was big into manipulating people to react the way I wanted them to (generally, I just wanted them to be left alone, and I did a good job of getting that). There was one thing stopping me from actually killing people, and that was my view on death. I didn’t believe in a heaven or hell, or any sort of afterlife. I viewed death as the end, and that’s it. It was almost as a reward. But if someone crossed my path, did something to me, or looked at me in a way I didn’t like, I wouldn’t have killed them, because that would mean they would no longer feel any pain. I wanted them alive so they could feel pain and suffering.

There were people who tried to reach out to me. I remember there were a few people in study hall that would try talking to me every week (we only had study hall once a week, as I recall). They would always say hi, ask me how I’m doing. I didn’t want anything to do with them. In my view, they weren’t really trying to be my friends, the only reason they were talking to me was because we happened to be sitting at the same table. I flat out ignored them, and they would give up after a couple minutes. Except for one time. Here’s a key theme to remember throughout all of this, I absolutely hated being touched in any way outside of a handshake. So anyways, the guy that would normally sit next to me was talking and he said something along the lines of, “I feel bad for him (talking about me). I want to give him a hug, but I’m afraid of what he’d do to me.” At that point I looked him in the eye (I think this was the only time we made eye contact) and said, “Touch me, gay boy, and I’ll rearrange your face.” That made him jump back and almost out of his seat. Needless to say, he didn’t sit next to me for the rest of that class. And that’s how I treated the people who were nice to me.

That’s how I accomplished my goal of being alone, by making people afraid of me. I didn’t do much talking, but I did a lot of listening. I could hear what others were saying about me. People that I never even talked to or interacted with would say that they were afraid to even say hi to me, including big football linebackers in gym class (and I’m not that big or muscular).

For college, I went to a city that was a good distance away from where I was. I viewed college as a fresh start, and for the most part, it was. Around this time I did believe that God existed, but I wasn’t sure “which god.” I returned to my Christian roots, as that’s what I was familiar with, but I did end up checking out some other religions. Christianity made the most sense to me, so that’s what I stuck with, but I still wasn’t sure, and I wasn’t really committed to it or anything. I got invited to a Christian fellowship group on campus, which I went to off and on. I wasn’t as violent as I was in high school, although I still felt I could tap into that whenever I wanted to.

Fast forward to my 4th year in college, where I decided to go on a mission trip with that Christian campus group. In previous years, my friends would come back from these mission trips going on and on about how great of a time they had, and so I saved up some money to finally go on one. I’d never been on a mission trip before, given my lone wolf and fairly sheltered life. There’s actually a lot of “normal/typical” things I haven’t done before (although, that keeps changing too). I still hated being touched. I recall a fundraiser the group did for this trip, and at the end we had a big group photo. I was kinda slow to get into the photo, so I was on the end, next to a guy that knew my name, but I didn’t know his name at the time (which annoyed me). What made it worse was when he put his arm around me, like people normally do in photos. I was thinking to myself the whole time, “If we weren’t in a group of Christians, I’d shove you to the ground right now, punch you in the face and tell you to never touch me again. Hurry up with this photo.” And that was replaying in my mind over and over.

Now, I’m going to take you to Tuesday night on the mission trip. We had a dancing activity for that night. During this, I sat down just to take a break. Shortly thereafter, my body started to shut down. I couldn’t feel anything from the waist down, and it was a fight just to open my eyes for 1 second. When the dancing was over, I had to be literally carried into the other room where we were going for worship. At this point, people were getting worried. A girl named Jamie came over, and she was checking my pulse and stuff, and said it was low (she was going into nursing). I wasn’t dehydrated or anything, because I was drinking plenty of water. I’d never had an experience like this before, and I haven’t had one since. They decided to carry me downstairs to our sleeping quarters. It took 3 guys to carry me downstairs. I didn’t mind being touched here, as it was kinda necessary.

When we got downstairs, we had a small group there to pray for me, led by JohnMark. I was ok with that, but what I wasn’t ok with was when they all put their hands on me to pray (about half a dozen people). I would have gotten up and walked away from that, but I didn’t have the physical power to, I didn’t even have the power to utter a full sentence. Afterwards, JohnMark told me that he could tell I didn’t like being touched during that prayer. After the first round of prayer, with nothing happening, Jamie came down to check on me again (still low pulse). Then she put her hands on my shoulders, and they began praying again. At some point during the prayer, Jamie said something along the lines of, “If there’s any evil spirit in him, let it be cast out in the name of Jesus.”

At that moment I felt something come out of me. It felt like a big burden was lifted, and I was at peace. A couple minutes later when they finished praying, I could move my toes. This was the first time I could feel anything from the waist down since I first sat down during the dancing. Within a couple minutes, I had regained full energy, and I was walking around and talking, but I had no idea of the full ramifications of this event. The next day, I was a completely different person. I no longer hated being touched, and I was no longer afraid of having close friends, two things which, I never intended changing. Now I enjoyed being hugged by my friends, and every day I’m thankful to God that I’m not who I once was. I no longer hated people, I loved people, and I love the person I’ve become. A few weeks after the mission trip I was baptized, and that was another adventure in itself.
 

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We wrestle not against flesh and blood - but the powers and principalities we do war against can most definately affect the flesh and blood. I am glad you are rid of this one but remember, he will be back - and with buddies - to see if the house has been put in order and not left vacant. What was the baptism adventure?
 
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Amen.

Were you a Christian when the demon was cast out?
 
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megaman125

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We wrestle not against flesh and blood - but the powers and principalities we do war against can most definately affect the flesh and blood. I am glad you are rid of this one but remember, he will be back - and with buddies - to see if the house has been put in order and not left vacant. What was the baptism adventure?
Long story short, a few weeks later I had a long conversation with the campus minister about baptism, decided I would get baptized, the baptistry at the church was broken and I wouldn't do it in the river because it was still basically winter (although the weather had been really nice that year). We had a praise fest on the campus lawn and it was 70 degrees, so I told the minister that if the weather was like that tomorrow, I'd get baptized in the river. So what was the weather? 30 degrees, high wind, snow, that didn't happen. I did get baptized that day, in a hot tub. There were about 20 people that came too, and the deck collapsed around us (but only the part myself and the minister were standing on).

Amen.

Were you a Christian when the demon was cast out?
I did call myself a Christian at that time, but like I said, I wasn't really committed to it or anything, I just loosely stuck with it because it made more sense to me than any other worldviews at the time.
 
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Couple disclaimers: This is going to be a long post, and it gets a bit dark.
I look forward to reading your post Megaman. It's too late for me to start now, but I will get to it tomorrow evening. Thanks.

Cycel
 
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Great testimony ... beware ... oppression can still occur ... but God is greater than all.
 
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Interesting account and truly a life altering experience. I am happy for you. However, as you might guess, I wouldn't attribute the paralysis or the positive mood change to an evil spirit vacating you. I really think there is a much more mundane explanation, though I am not the person to provide it.
 
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megaman125

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Interesting account and truly a life altering experience. I am happy for you. However, as you might guess, I wouldn't attribute the paralysis or the positive mood change to an evil spirit vacating you. I really think there is a much more mundane explanation, though I am not the person to provide it.
Well, as for the paralysis (I guess we can call it that for lack of a better term), I had no idea what was going on with me. I'm not sure I would even attribute the evil spirit to that. Perhaps God was allowing some sort of natural (what I mean is non-evil spirit related) circumstances in order for the evil spirit to be cast out. It does make sense that way (more sense actually). Think about it, I would have never allowed people to lay hands on me and pray. In fact, just a couple days prior to that Tuesday, everyone was gathered around laying hands on people and praying blessings over those who wanted it. I wanted no part of being touched so I just stayed at the back of the group. But that Tuesday, I was in a position were I couldn't physically get up and walk away, and I couldn't even utter a sentence to tell them not to touch me. As for how I've changed since that experience, well, let's just say I've had people offer me alternative explainations for how I changed as a person since then, and they just fall short.
 

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It's not unusual to have a paralysis-like event during the casting out (or casting off) of a demon. It is by the flesh that they hold you, the flesh cannot be but effected as they are released from it. Plus it's a foray into the spiritual realm that most people don't get to experience. You might just be too overwhelmed physically to be anything else but paralysis-like.

But the focus of all this should be praise God, however it happened you were freed of it! Hallelujah!

As for how it's changed you, well, having part of the old man removed actually removes an earlier change that's kept you from being your true self.
 
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danschance

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The paralysis might of been a demonic manifestation, but who really knows? Many people who have a demonic problem also experience sleep paralysis. While many attribute sleep paralysis to some natural phenomena, no known trigger or cause of it has ever been discovered. Makes sense to me that it probably is a demonic manifestation.
 
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Wow, awesome news. Doesnt it feel better to live in light than darkness?

PS: I read all of it and usually im too lazy to read that much text. God is great. And He chose you! Pretty special.
 
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megaman125

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It's not unusual to have a paralysis-like event during the casting out (or casting off) of a demon. It is by the flesh that they hold you, the flesh cannot be but effected as they are released from it. Plus it's a foray into the spiritual realm that most people don't get to experience. You might just be too overwhelmed physically to be anything else but paralysis-like.
Well the thing is, it's pretty obvious I had the evil spirit for quite some time, and never had a paralysis-like event. Then again, I probably wasn't in a situation where a bunch of people around me would lay hands on me and pray to cast out demons if I was experiencing that, and God probably planned all that too.

But the focus of all this should be praise God, however it happened you were freed of it! Hallelujah!
Absolutely. Even though this happened about 3.5 years ago, I'm still thanking God for changing me.

As for how it's changed you, well, having part of the old man removed actually removes an earlier change that's kept you from being your true self.
That's an interesting thought, I've never thought of it that way before. Thanks.

Wow, awesome news. Doesnt it feel better to live in light than darkness?

PS: I read all of it and usually im too lazy to read that much text. God is great. And He chose you! Pretty special.
Lol, I thought of that myself, hence I put up that disclaimer about the long post at the front.
 
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Megaman, God bless you brother in the name of Jesus Chrrist. Thank you brother for your testimony. There are people out there that need to here your story. Just like we all need the stories in the bible for inspiration, your story will inspire others. So what's going on in your life today?
 
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Megaman, God bless you brother in the name of Jesus Chrrist. Thank you brother for your testimony. There are people out there that need to here your story. Just like we all need the stories in the bible for inspiration, your story will inspire others. So what's going on in your life today?
I'm an accountant (what I went to college for) for 2 local churches, including my own, and I'm the director of the kids ministry and just recently started volunteering in the youth ministry at church. (been resistant to the youth ministry for the last year)
 
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Well, Megaman, here it is. Very long I know. Sorry.

The household I was raised in was ostensibly Christian. Both my parents believed in God, and my father believed in Adam and Eve and Noah’s flood, but he also seemed to accept evolution as the explanation for how racial characteristics evolved. My mother was the one who insisted we attended church and I did so until I was 11 or 12 years old. All my friends went to church and every school day began with the Lord’s Prayer and a Bible reading. At home we never cut the lawn or washed the car on Sunday, and I recall one summer day washing my bicycle in the driveway until a neighbour complained that I shouldn’t do so on the Sabbath. At home we only said grace at the table when my mother’s relatives came visiting. They all had a rural background and for them I knew faith was very important. My father’s parents sometimes attended church, but not so much when my father and his siblings were growing-up. When I asked my grandmother about that she explained the family had just been too busy to give it much thought at the time, but I always wondered if there might have been another reason.

My father grew up in a mixed religious household. My great grandmother had converted from Methodism to the Jehovah’s Witness faith about 1926 when she was some 60 years of age. She’d lost one of her sons to illness and her husband to a tragic accident while at work, both in fairly quick succession. Somehow this figured into her conversion, but my paternal grandmother thought there had also been a dispute of some kind with the leaders of her church. She resided with my grandfather and his family.

Growing up I didn’t know that my ‘Granny’ was a different faith from the rest of the family. I did know that a Mrs. Court came to visit her every week to read scripture. Only later did I learn the woman was a Witness. When I was older my grandmother did share a bit more. Apparently my great grandmother had been interested in converting her remaining three sons and their families to her new faith and worked constantly to do so. More than once my grandmother said ‘Granny’ would corner my father and his siblings and ‘witness’ to them when they were children. My grandmother remained vigilant and broke up the meetings every time she saw them taking place. Her voice rang with pride when she told me, “She never got my kids,” but then quieted when she confessed, “but she did get Ern and his.” Ern was my grandfather’s estranged brother. So to this day a branch of my family is Jehovah’s Witness.

All of this is just to provide the setting of the religious circumstances I grew up in. After my father’s death my mother told me that my Granny had never tried to convert her, and this had always surprised her. But she pointed out that she remembered hearing my great grandmother express her religious views and always thought there had been a strong connection between them and the views my father held. Perhaps this is why I grew up thinking of Jesus, not as God, but only as the son of God. I suspect this is a view my father may have imparted to me. It’s the position of the Jehovah’s Witness’s you see, and to this day, though I no longer believe in God, it still makes no sense to me to think of Jesus as God.

My church was the United Church of Canada, a union of Methodist, Presbyterian and Congregational churches established in 1925. I didn’t like Sunday school. I was too shy to get involved, and I found church services boring. My sister enjoyed dressing up and wearing her Sunday hat and white gloves, but remembered the fuss they ‘boys’ always made. My younger brother hated dressing up and I recall trying to work him into a frenzy. I played the brother card every Sunday morning and eventually my mother decided it was no longer worth the stress. She agreed to allow my father to remain home with my brother and I while she and my sister went to church. Dad preferred this and as he told me years later he though ministers were only a bunch of atheists anyway. These were the years of the Death of God theologians, and something of this fad must have found its way to our pulpit (though I don’t specifically recall this happening) I do remember it being much in the media.

My first doubts stirred when I was about 10 years of age. I had only recently discovered Santa Claus was not real and this raised the spectre of mistrust in all things that the adult world had conveyed to me. I began to question everything. Like most kids that age I was fascinated by dinosaurs and it struck me that while my Sunday school teacher had said the lion was the king of beasts, in biblical times, that Tyrannosaur Rex better fit that roll. Why then were there no dinosaurs mentioned in the Bible? God had brought all the animals to Adam for him to name; where were the dinosaurs? In my ten year old mind this was a big problem for the authenticity of scripture as the Word of God. I began wondering where God was supposed to have come from. It was said he’d always been there, but that didn’t make sense. Everything had to have a beginning. I talked with my best friend about this. She was Catholic and I wondered if perhaps her church had a better understanding. She suggested God might have made himself, but this seemed even more absurd to me. I was left with a God that no one could explain the existence of and a holy book that didn’t know about dinosaurs. Perhaps grown-ups had made the whole thing up.

By grade four I was an atheist. This I know because a student in class blurted out to the teacher that he didn’t believe in God. I was stunned. You could have heard the proverbial pin drop. I didn’t believe in God either at the time, but I would never have confessed this to anyone – not even to my best friend. In the little world I lived in I was the only person who knew God did not exist. The other boy’s confession was a revelation that opened to me the possibility that others too had figured it out.

I had accepted on an intellectual level that God did not exist, but emotionally I still carried the baggage of fear. Should I be wrong then the fires of Hell awaited. Up to age sixteen I put a good deal of effort into persuading myself of the correctness of my views. I took books from the library on theology and on atheism. I looked into histories of Judaism and attempted to puzzle out just how the belief in God originated. I read the Bible, for where would one find evidence of God, if not there, and I was ravenous for books on astronomy, and for literature demonstrating the existence of ghosts.

Ghosts were a passion. I was quite confident I had even experienced a haunting. My brother claimed he’d experienced astral projection, and my friends and I took part in seances (but to our great disappointment nothing ever happened). I even tried to contact my Granny, till my father explained she would have thought such things were of the devil and she would never respond even if she could. School mates related their ghostly encounters and all the evidence seemed to point to their existence, but I could find no evidence of God. I did note, however, that the creation account didn’t fit at all with modern astronomy.

My new best friend had also given up belief in God, though this revelation came only after I had know him for some years. His parents had always sent him to church, though they did not attend themselves. During one of his confirmation classes he got into a disagreement with his minister over the story of Cain. Who exactly was this woman Cain married after he murdered Abel? Where did she come from? And this mark God gave him, who was it protecting him from if the only people on Earth were his parents, himself, and this mysterious woman? He was afraid to tell his parents he’d argued with the minister, announced to him he was an atheist, and quit attending church; and he was apprehensive about telling me. As it turned out all was well. I was an atheist, but he’d also learned both his parents were atheists. They had only wanted him to make up his own mind and to that end sent him to church.

So now I had a confidant. The two of us could discus the subject of God. He also shared his passion for evolution, and I shared mine on ghosts and astronomy. Now, while most of the time I thought there was no God, sometimes I wasn’t so sure. I recall two occasions when I slipped back into belief – once during an illness about age twelve, and again when I was sixteen. This last time was accompanied by a great deal of emotion on my part. I threw myself into prayer and Bible reading – intent upon finding God. Why I came to this crossroad, at this time, I don’t know. My brother, seeing me on my knees, thought I was partaking in some protracted prank, but I was very serious. However, my efforts came to naught. If there is a God he chose not to reach out in a manner I could recognize and after a couple of weeks the old atheist conviction returned. In the Old Testament I’d encountered the god that Richard Dawkins mockingly lambasted in the second chapter of The God Delusion as “... arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction...” (p. 31). Comparing this god to the one I was familiar with in the New Testament brought home for me that gods are part of our culture and like it they too evolve.

Megaman, all that precedes has been simply to lay the groundwork for what happened next. The American philosopher Susan Sontag wrote, and I paraphrase: ‘The atheist cannot rest content until he has assured himself the last dragon has been slain.’ By that final dragon I think she meant Satan, or fear of Hell. So ingrained is this fear from our childhood religious training that it stays with us a very long time. At least it did with me. My previous years as an atheist had in large measure, I think, been spent convincing myself there was no need to worry. What happened next was an event that forever washed away the doubt. I was sixteen and in my bedroom studying for a test. I got thirsty and walked out to get a drink of water from the kitchen, but my attention was grabbed instead by a program my parents were watching on television called Seven League Boots. It was a 1950's travelogue, syndicated, and running again in the late 1960s. I had always been interested in the medieval period and the narrator was describing the architecture of a medieval church. So I stopped, leaned against the arch separating the dining and living room, and took in the program. I can’t remember the details of the dialogue but the jest of it was that the building was designed to reflect God’s majesty. Suddenly, and I mean suddenly, I was overwhelmed by a feeling that a thought had just slammed into me, and I do mean physically. It’s very difficult to actually describe the sensation because nothing like it has happened before or since. It occurred at the very moment that I had an epiphany. As the narrator spoke the word God I slotted Him, without thinking, into that same category that my brain reserves for Zeus, Apollo, Hermes, or any of the other ancient mythical gods. The epiphany was that I had reduced God to the status of myth without even thinking about it. My atheism had become internalized – it may have been before, but it took that experience for me to realize it.

It was the force of the epiphany itself slamming like a physical object into my consciousness that must have created the physical sensation in my body. The realization was jarring, to be sure, but had anyone been watching me in that moment they may not have noticed a thing. After that I stopped worrying about being wrong and began thinking of myself as a born again atheist.

I am sure this post will raise a few questions and I do apologize for its length, but I didn’t want to leave out anything that might help the reader to understand.
 
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All of this is just to provide the setting of the religious circumstances I grew up in. After my father’s death my mother told me that my Granny had never tried to convert her, and this had always surprised her. But she pointed out that she remembered hearing my great grandmother express her religious views and always thought there had been a strong connection between them and the views my father held. Perhaps this is why I grew up thinking of Jesus, not as God, but only as the son of God. I suspect this is a view my father may have imparted to me. It’s the position of the Jehovah’s Witness’s you see, and to this day, though I no longer believe in God, it still makes no sense to me to think of Jesus as God.
Yeah, sometimes it can be somewhat of a bizzare concept for myself to think of Jesus as God, who came to die for us so that we can be forgiven. But that is what I teach, as I do believe it's the truth. There's numberous points thoughout the 4 Gospels where Jesus himself is even claiming to be God.

My church was the United Church of Canada, a union of Methodist, Presbyterian and Congregational churches established in 1925. I didn’t like Sunday school. I was too shy to get involved, and I found church services boring. My sister enjoyed dressing up and wearing her Sunday hat and white gloves, but remembered the fuss they ‘boys’ always made. My younger brother hated dressing up and I recall trying to work him into a frenzy. I played the brother card every Sunday morning and eventually my mother decided it was no longer worth the stress. She agreed to allow my father to remain home with my brother and I while she and my sister went to church. Dad preferred this and as he told me years later he though ministers were only a bunch of atheists anyway. These were the years of the Death of God theologians, and something of this fad must have found its way to our pulpit (though I don’t specifically recall this happening) I do remember it being much in the media.
Perhaps your dad didn't mind not going to church because the other side of your family was converted to Jehova's Witnesses, and you dad, being angry or resentful about the whole thing, took it out on God by not going to church anymore. Just a thought, but I see this sort of thing as quite a commonality, where there's some sort of issue in a person's life, either involving the church or not, and their response is to stop going to church, because that's an easy way out, instead of going to church and hearing a sermon where you might have to confront and deal with said problem in a different manner from your natural reaction.

As for sunday school being boring and having to dress up, I can totally relate, having grown up in a Lutheran church. I don't believe it should be boring, and the kids ministry I'm currently leading is very much unlike that boring sunday school. Just today we had a game where the kids had a tub of those plastic balls you would find at a McDonalds playplace, and made a team of 5, 3 throwers and 2 catchers. The catchers were holding big baskets to catch the balls with, and we gave the team 30 seconds to get at least 5 balls into each basket. The kids loved it. Then we had videos, an offering time that turns into a boys vs. girls race, and an interactive lesson (today was Samson and Delilah, as we've been talking about deceiption). There seem to be a lot of kids that want to learn and grow (as opposed to me when I was sitting in sunday school pretty much daydreaming/ignoring everything). Then the lesson ends with review questions, and I don't make them easy. In fact, I also include a challenge question which is a question that is somewhat related to the lesson, but not something I actually taught on. Those kids blaze through the review questions for the most part, even the challenge ones someone usually gets it right. And there's no dress up required. Heck, some of the kids wear gym shorts. We beleive in "come as you are," meaning you don't need to wear a suit and tie to get God's attention or approval. (Well, that was a tangent)

My first doubts stirred when I was about 10 years of age. I had only recently discovered Santa Claus was not real and this raised the spectre of mistrust in all things that the adult world had conveyed to me.
And this is why if a kid ever asks me about Santa Claus, I'm telling him the truth from the get go. I'll admit too that when I first learned that Santa wasn't real, I wasn't really upset about Santa, more about the fact that my parents had lied to me for years. That made me begin to question other things, but that's not what turned me atheist, it just caused a rift of distrust.

I began to question everything. Like most kids that age I was fascinated by dinosaurs and it struck me that while my Sunday school teacher had said the lion was the king of beasts, in biblical times, that Tyrannosaur Rex better fit that roll. Why then were there no dinosaurs mentioned in the Bible? God had brought all the animals to Adam for him to name; where were the dinosaurs? In my ten year old mind this was a big problem for the authenticity of scripture as the Word of God. I began wondering where God was supposed to have come from. It was said he’d always been there, but that didn’t make sense. Everything had to have a beginning. I talked with my best friend about this. She was Catholic and I wondered if perhaps her church had a better understanding. She suggested God might have made himself, but this seemed even more absurd to me. I was left with a God that no one could explain the existence of and a holy book that didn’t know about dinosaurs. Perhaps grown-ups had made the whole thing up.
Few things I want to comment on here. First off, the Bible doesn't deny dinosaurs in any way. Any Christian denomination that does deny the existence of them is not doing so with any sort of a Biblical basis, look at it as more of their own little view. Now there's a couple of things I'd like you to ponder in relation to the rest of this.

1. I don't think anyone understands how God has the ability to be eternal, and how it was God wasn't created. I know I don't, and heck, even my pastor doesn't. But that doesn't stop any of us from believing in God.
2. On the notion that grown-ups made up the whole God thing as a scam to get money (I'm guessing you were hinting at that, but maybe not), I'd like you to consider this. Now when you were a kid you were forced to go to church, and it was when you were 10 that you learned the truth about Santa, and by the sounds of it, you were hurt that you were tricked into believing such things. But what about the grown ups that did atend church and still gave to the church despite knowing the truth about Santa (or having known it for a long time). I don't think you could get a bunch of people to not only regularly attent church, but willingly and freely give money to the church, unless of course, those people do truely believe in their hearts and minds that the Bible is true. What do you make of those people?

My new best friend had also given up belief in God, though this revelation came only after I had know him for some years. His parents had always sent him to church, though they did not attend themselves. During one of his confirmation classes he got into a disagreement with his minister over the story of Cain. Who exactly was this woman Cain married after he murdered Abel? Where did she come from? And this mark God gave him, who was it protecting him from if the only people on Earth were his parents, himself, and this mysterious woman? He was afraid to tell his parents he’d argued with the minister, announced to him he was an atheist, and quit attending church; and he was apprehensive about telling me. As it turned out all was well. I was an atheist, but he’d also learned both his parents were atheists. They had only wanted him to make up his own mind and to that end sent him to church.
Pretty bad minister if you ask me. You'd think they would be prepared to deal with the modern day basic and widespread questions people were asking. Churches like the one you're describing here are basically breeding grounds for having kids grow up and turn away from the faith. I find it rather sad.

Megaman, all that precedes has been simply to lay the groundwork for what happened next. The American philosopher Susan Sontag wrote, and I paraphrase: ‘The atheist cannot rest content until he has assured himself the last dragon has been slain.’ By that final dragon I think she meant Satan, or fear of Hell. So ingrained is this fear from our childhood religious training that it stays with us a very long time. At least it did with me. My previous years as an atheist had in large measure, I think, been spent convincing myself there was no need to worry. What happened next was an event that forever washed away the doubt. I was sixteen and in my bedroom studying for a test. I got thirsty and walked out to get a drink of water from the kitchen, but my attention was grabbed instead by a program my parents were watching on television called Seven League Boots. It was a 1950's travelogue, syndicated, and running again in the late 1960s. I had always been interested in the medieval period and the narrator was describing the architecture of a medieval church. So I stopped, leaned against the arch separating the dining and living room, and took in the program. I can’t remember the details of the dialogue but the jest of it was that the building was designed to reflect God’s majesty. Suddenly, and I mean suddenly, I was overwhelmed by a feeling that a thought had just slammed into me, and I do mean physically. It’s very difficult to actually describe the sensation because nothing like it has happened before or since. It occurred at the very moment that I had an epiphany. As the narrator spoke the word God I slotted Him, without thinking, into that same category that my brain reserves for Zeus, Apollo, Hermes, or any of the other ancient mythical gods. The epiphany was that I had reduced God to the status of myth without even thinking about it. My atheism had become internalized – it may have been before, but it took that experience for me to realize it.
Hmm... interesting. You might already know what I'm about to say, but from a Christian perspective that does sound like an interaction with an evil spirit, or ghost. If you would assume for a moment that the Bible is true, then what you experienced could be explained by an evil spirit. After all, according to Christian theology, Satan will do everything he can to try and rob us of our faith, and that includes planting thoughts in our heads.

I am sure this post will raise a few questions and I do apologize for its length, but I didn’t want to leave out anything that might help the reader to understand.
I didn't mind the length, it was a good read, very informative, and its nice hearing a different perspective.
 
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stacygo72

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Mega, will you pray for me. I have a lot of hate in my heart and I am uncomfortable with people touching me and I get alit of violent thoughts. I'm so happy you were delivered.
 
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megaman125

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Mega, will you pray for me. I have a lot of hate in my heart and I am uncomfortable with people touching me and I get alit of violent thoughts. I'm so happy you were delivered.
Well, if you relate that closely with my testimony, I would suggest finding a few Christians and asking them to lay hands on you and pray for evils spirits to be cast out in the name of Jesus. I'll pray for you to have the courage to do that.
 
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Rickee

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II Corinthians 4 v 4

In whom the god of this world has blinded the minds of them WHICH BELEIVE NOT, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ who is the image of God, should shine into them...