The Sin Of Sodom

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homwardbound

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No, everyone does not believe there is a God. I don't see how anyone could spend any time at all talking to atheists and still think this.
There are no Atheists in a fox hole. Have you been to war?
 

ChosenbyHim

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Do you, I or anyone really understand this Chastening
Romans 5:5 and hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us.
Romans 8:39 nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
2 Corinthians 13:11 Finally, brethren, farewell. Be perfect, be of good comfort, be of one mind, live in peace; and the God of love and peace shall be with you.

God loves us all, as shown through Son Christ, back at the cross. This world scourges, for its own gain, when God does for our gain in loving God above all else

Homwardbound, God does not love everyone. No where in the Holy Bible does it teach that God loves Christ rejecting sinners. God's wrath abides on the children of disobience (Eph. 5:6 & Col. 3:6).

Now God loves all of His children. But when it comes to Christ rejecting sinners, God's love is not manifested on them.
 
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jimmydiggs

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No, everyone does not believe there is a God. I don't see how anyone could spend any time at all talking to atheists and still think this.
Ever read, Romans 1?
 
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So, which is it going to be, homwardbound? Are you going to:

a) Admit you were wrong?

b) Deny that any of the two hundred people on that list are "really" atheists?

c) Argue that none of the people on that list were ever "really" in foxholes?

d) Change the subject and hope nobody notices that you made a claim and refused to acknowledge when it was refuted?

I know which one I'd guess.
 
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jimmydiggs

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So, which is it going to be, homwardbound? Are you going to:

a) Admit you were wrong?

b) Deny that any of the two hundred people on that list are "really" atheists?

c) Argue that none of the people on that list were ever "really" in foxholes?

d) Change the subject and hope nobody notices that you made a claim and refused to acknowledge when it was refuted?

I know which one I'd guess.
 

homwardbound

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Homwardbound, God does not love everyone. No where in the Holy Bible does it teach that God loves Christ rejecting sinners. God's wrath abides on the children of disobience (Eph. 5:6 & Col. 3:6).

Now God loves all of His children. But when it comes to Christ rejecting sinners, God's love is not manifested on them.
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
1 John 4:9 In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.
Romans 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us

Romans 8:34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

2 Corinthians 5:14 For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead:

So what are you saying that God only died for the elect?

Who are the first Chosen, then who are the elect.

Christ dies for all, and all that believe this God accepts, those that do not believe God are not accepted. Now this free choice to believe God or not is a conscious choice, and therefore at Judgment there will be no excuse as to what happens to us all, for everyone will have made their conscious choice to Believe God or not.

John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
 

homwardbound

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Ever read, Romans 1?
Everyone knows there is God. Even the demons and fear and tremble. Not everyone exercises their Belief in God. We know the devils do not, they are all about self, as well as flesh in and of itself, and is why it is important to die to self with Chrsit at his death and pick up the new life in the Spirit of God through the death
[h=3]Philippians 3:10-11[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

[SUP]10 [/SUP]that I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death; [SUP]11 [/SUP]if by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead.
 

homwardbound

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So, which is it going to be, homwardbound? Are you going to:

a) Admit you were wrong?

b) Deny that any of the two hundred people on that list are "really" atheists?

c) Argue that none of the people on that list were ever "really" in foxholes?

d) Change the subject and hope nobody notices that you made a claim and refused to acknowledge when it was refuted?

I know which one I'd guess.
Are you asking to be in a foxhole? You will know then, maybe, maybe not. But for me I see it this way, that everyone truly knows God created this entire world and universe, whether they admit to it or not. Romans 1 great chapter on exposing this truth.
And you can believe as you want to believe and in your mind frame I am wrong, okay, in mine I am not, And God just love us both. So can you agree to disagree?
 
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So you chose option d: change the subject and hope nobody notices. That's very disappointing; you should be willing to at least acknowledge that I linked you to a list of over two hundred atheists who have served in combat but maintained their atheism, even if you explain it away.
 

homwardbound

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So you chose option d: change the subject and hope nobody notices. That's very disappointing; you should be willing to at least acknowledge that I linked you to a list of over two hundred atheists who have served in combat but maintained their atheism, even if you explain it away.
You even know in your own mind God is real, whether you attain to it or not, At that day of Judgment all their will have known and had made their choice in believing God or not.
The problem is not God it is the people that are selfish, to only love those that love them
Luke 6:27 But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you,
Luke 6:32 For if ye love them which love you, what thank have ye? for sinners also love those that love them.
Luke 6:35 But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.
Luke 7:42 And when they had nothing to pay, he frankly forgave them both. Tell me therefore, which of them will love him most?

People that do not believe and claim they do are the problem, and is what causes Atheists.
God is love beyond measure, people are not and in need to receive 1 Cor. 13 type of love
[h=3]1 Corinthians 13[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

13 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. [SUP]2 [/SUP]And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing. [SUP]3 [/SUP]And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.

Without God's type of love, all else is dead.
To all Atheists, I love you and actually so does God, sorry for the misrepresentations you received from people, That turned into not believing.
God does just love you all, everyone,