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The you are sadly mistaken... I am sorry I gave you biblical examples and opposed your point of view Mien Fuhrer
I think this is the most reported thread in recent CC history. We have chosen to allow the discussion up to this point since it is a no win situation for us. If we remove it we will be accused of being prudes, if we leave it up we will be accused of aiding and abetting unwholesome communication. I will say this....I just read more mudslinging and unwarranted accusations than I have in a while. If the discussion can't be kept discreet and civil this thread will be closed and the offenders will be acted against.
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So if Jesus was standing right in front of you and you were having oral sex with someone what do you think he would think?
How would you feel with him standing there? How about the other person's mother? Why do people try to justify the lust of the flesh this way? Remember everything you do in secret will be exposed in the open some day.
How would you feel with him standing there? How about the other person's mother? Why do people try to justify the lust of the flesh this way? Remember everything you do in secret will be exposed in the open some day.
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So.. were on page 8.
And scattered throughout this I see some Christians saying foreplay isn't sexual sin?
Foreplay involves LUST. If it didn't it wouldn't be called foreplay. Keep your hands and eyes off, it's not difficult. I'm not condeming kissing here, but seriously discussions about petting, foreplay?
Petting - only two people are ever touching that area on me. Me (because I'm a human being and have to go to the bathroom occasionally) and my future wife. Maybe a doctor if need be.
Kissing - where are you kissing exactly? How about keeping it constrained to the face? There should be enough surface area there that it will still be enjoyable. Start going lower and I'm pretty sure you're going to start lusting, and there might be clothes removed.
Just. Keep. Your. Pants. On.
And scattered throughout this I see some Christians saying foreplay isn't sexual sin?
Foreplay involves LUST. If it didn't it wouldn't be called foreplay. Keep your hands and eyes off, it's not difficult. I'm not condeming kissing here, but seriously discussions about petting, foreplay?
Petting - only two people are ever touching that area on me. Me (because I'm a human being and have to go to the bathroom occasionally) and my future wife. Maybe a doctor if need be.
Kissing - where are you kissing exactly? How about keeping it constrained to the face? There should be enough surface area there that it will still be enjoyable. Start going lower and I'm pretty sure you're going to start lusting, and there might be clothes removed.
Just. Keep. Your. Pants. On.
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so i ask a more casual board this same question... and the responses were MUCH more friendly than these so called righteous christians..
and nobody thinks its "sex".. well 2 people say it is. but even they were much more respectful and casual about their answers... thats what i was looking for. these responses from christians were very disappointing.
and nobody thinks its "sex".. well 2 people say it is. but even they were much more respectful and casual about their answers... thats what i was looking for. these responses from christians were very disappointing.
you're asking if orange is a color or not, and crying foul when someone points out that it is in fact a color, because you want to cling to a definition of color as being strictly confined to {red, yellow, blue}.
all you are doing is pushing words around. you ignored my earlier comment referencing our former president Monsieur Clinton, who brought this topic to the forefront of public discussion some years back. I think it's incredibly relevant since the intent of this topic doesn't seem to be to entertain other peoples opinions or what the moral and/or biblical stance would be.
how does Hilary Clinton feel about the subject? do you think she cares about finer distinctions of vocabulary?
is there seriously any good reason this topic has grown to 8 pages, or are some of the ppl in this thread just creating & perpetuating divisions and enmity? if i was a mod, this would be locked. i guess there are good reasons that i am not a mod, lol.
all you are doing is pushing words around. you ignored my earlier comment referencing our former president Monsieur Clinton, who brought this topic to the forefront of public discussion some years back. I think it's incredibly relevant since the intent of this topic doesn't seem to be to entertain other peoples opinions or what the moral and/or biblical stance would be.
how does Hilary Clinton feel about the subject? do you think she cares about finer distinctions of vocabulary?
is there seriously any good reason this topic has grown to 8 pages, or are some of the ppl in this thread just creating & perpetuating divisions and enmity? if i was a mod, this would be locked. i guess there are good reasons that i am not a mod, lol.
Well, when you ask secular or overly liberal Christian boards, you're going to get secular or liberal answers. Which I think was your point in asking them. You're either a troll, or you want someone to tell you any form of sex outside of marriage is okay. Either way, you have your answers.
This thread should be deleted.
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