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New Study Exposes the "60% Effective" Flu Shot as 98.5% Useless

The Media Manipulates Flu Vaccine Facts

The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) recommends a yearly flu vaccine as "the first and most important step in protecting against flu viruses.
This advice applies to everyone 6 months of age and older, and the CDC stresses that you "should get a flu vaccine as soon as [they] are available.
With a promotion this strong, you might assume that getting a flu shot is a "sure thing" to protect you from all flu-like illness this year, but actually it's not.

Not even close...

 

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CDC caught in blatant lies about pandemics and vaccines

CDC caught in blatant lies about pandemics and vaccines

 

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Vaccine Side Effects, Refuse Vaccines

Vaccine Side Effects, Refuse Vaccines | Healing Our Children

 

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THE VACCINATION RACKET

THE VACCINATION HOAX

 

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Vaccination Statistics

Vaccination Statistics

A 1992 study published in The American Journal of Epidemiology shows that children die at a rate 8 times greater than normal within three days after getting a DPT vaccination.
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A preliminary study by the Center for Disease Control (CDC) found children who received the HiB vaccine ... were found to be 5 times more likely to contract the disease than children who had not received the vaccine.
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In the New England Journal of Medicine July 1994 issue a study found that over 80% of children under 5 years of age who had contracted whooping cough had been fully vaccinated.
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In 1977 Dr Jonas Salk (inventor of the Salk polio vaccine) testified with other scientists that 87% of the polio cases which occurred in the US since 1970 were the by-product of the polio vaccine.
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The Sabin oral polio vaccine (OPV) is the only known cause of polio in the us today.
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The February 1981 issue of the Journal of the American Medical Association found that 90% of obstetricians and 66% of pediatricians refused to take the rubella vaccine.
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The pro-vaccination side is all that is offered in the media, schools, doctor’s offices, PHS, and all government publications. This is a biased one-sided view of vaccinations based much on manufacturer’s studies and writings. The other side is rarely discussed and adverse events after vaccination are dismissed as a one-in-a-million chance which is a necessary risk we all have to take. The truth is that the risks are far greater than they are telling us, and there are no mandatory vaccines. Extreme pressures are placed on parents for not signing permission and accepting all responsibility for the toxic vaccines. Yet, doctors cannot guarantee the safety of vaccines or that they will even work. Many vaccinations fail to achieve their intended level of immunity and many cause horrible complications (including death) which one will have to suffer for the rest of their life. The trade-off is not wroth the risk. Mumps and measles are innocuous childhood diseases, but the vaccines have caused cancer, diabetes, brain damage, leukemia, autism, and even death (SIDS).
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This information is to provide a balance against the pro-vaccination literature which is easily available. Anti-vaccination philosophies are sometimes difficult to find and anti-vaccinationists are called names in an attempt to discredit their reasoning. One must concede that both sides are biased in their views, however skewed. Truth is what is needed and that seems to be lacking in the pro-vaccination literature. If vaccines were good for us, there would be no reason for dishonesty and deceit. If vaccines were safe and effective there would be no issue here. Anti-vaccination literature only wants to support the truth and honestly tell the facts as they really are. Only by becoming educated in this very important issue can one make an informed decision. Yet, every day parents are asked to roll up Johnny’s sleeve with very little consideration as to what their permission is for. Few people realize that vaccines are grown on monkey kidneys, mice brains and chicken embryos. Few people realize the dire consequences of injecting foreign animal tissues (DNA/RNA) and the auto-immune reactions they can induce. Few people realize that vaccines are immune depressing and may cause cancers, leukemias and even have been linked to AIDS.

Only by keeping people in the dark (ignorant to the ill-effects of vaccinations) can vaccination profit-levels be kept high.
Parents are purposefully not given the facts concerning vaccines, or they are given altered data and only the glossy side of the pro-vaccine issues. A one-sided view is delivered to parents who are not being educated or informed, but it favors vaccinations! Ignorance may be bliss, but not in vaccination issues, where death and severe damage may ensue. Many people do not even know (nor are they told) that vaccines are grown on animal organs and contain foreign DNA/RNA of those animals. Vaccinations are blood products and hazardous to our immune system. The medical literature is full of citations linking vaccines to many diseases, both causally (cause-associated) and temporally (time-associated). Yet, people erroneously assume that because vaccines are mandated by law that the government is verifying to their safety and effectiveness. Nothing can be further from the truth, since the government relies on the data from the manufacturers for the vaccine safety studies and coaxes to their research for vaccine effectiveness.

Few people realize that vaccines have been linked with brain damage, lowered IQ, ADD, learning disabilities, and autism. Yet, neurological disorders are among the most listed and studied vaccine complications in the medical literature. Unvaccinated children have a level of health that is unsurpassed by "normal" children, because they have not had their immune systems depressed or tampered with by vaccines. Unvaccinated children have higher IQs and less brain dysfunction than "normal" children. Unvaccinated children are truly healthy in every way possible. Few parents are told of the real consequences of vaccines, but only that they "prevent" disease. Yet, the truth is that vaccines cause more diseases than they "prevent". Vaccines are not safe and effective as we are led to believe. Their prevention of disease is more myth than reality as we will see how they manipulate the data and facts to make vaccines appear to "work". We will look at why vaccines are bad for our health and why .... Vaccines Prevent Health.

2) Vaccine Production, Allergies and Harmful Ingredients-

Everyday millions of children are lined up and injected with toxic putrid substances grown on animal organs, cancer cells, aborted fetuses and other toxic substances. Few people are questioning how those viruses were obtained and how they were grown in a laboratory. If one would ask these sensible questions, one would become very enlightened about vaccine production. I warn you now, discussing vaccine-production will turn your stomach. Vaccines are made from the most vilest and filthiest substances on the earth. Since the definition of abomination is "anything that is filthy", the term describes vaccinations adequately and truthfully. The vaccine "cauldron" is full of putrid junk from bodies exposed to disease and excreting morbid purulence. Science gathers this junk up in hopes of making vaccines for "preventing" disease; and we are being fooled while vaccinations cause increases in diseases.

First, pathogenic (disease-causing) viruses will not grow on healthy "soil" (the medium). If the environment is correct within our body, the virulent viruses and disease-causing germs will not grow. For example, hepatitis virus does not grow on a side-walk, nor in a healthy person. To make the vaccine, the manufacturers have to get the virus from somewhere, so they get them from persons with hepatitis. Makes sense. [The first hepatitis vaccines (of the 70s) were grown from the blood of the gay community, since they had high levels of hepatitis.] Today, they are much more "sophisticated", they just gather up bodily excrements from persons with hepatitis and culture the virus. Which excrements?

... Use your imagination: urine, blood, feces, pus and other excrements. In vaccine production anything goes. (How about cadaver organs and blood of persons who died of hepatitis?)

Once the virus is gathered, it must be grown on a toxic medium ... remember pathogens will not grow on healthy tissue. The medium used is generally animal organs and tissues combined with the proper culture medium and "nutrients". BHK (baby hamster kidney) cells, monkey kidneys, HeLa cells (cancer cells from Henrietta Lacks), aborted fetal tissues (used in the rubella vaccine called RA 27/3) and other animal organs are used in vaccine production. [Remember it is the foreign animal genetic materials which make vaccines so dangerous.] Once the virus has been grown, it is inactivated with formaldehyde (a potent carcinogen) or other agent. Other substances (adjuvants) may be added to the vaccines, like mercury (thiomersol), phenol, aluminum, antibiotics, and other ingredients which promote the vaccine’s effectiveness. All these substances are unnatural, synthetic, and immune suppressing, and some are even carcinogenic. The production of vaccine ‘lymph’ has been the main function of producing vaccines in the laboratory. Viruses don’t grow well in healthy individuals and toxic (un-healthy) cultures must be used. For example, mice bred to get cancer don’t get cancer unless they are fed a nutrient deficient diet. Now that means that we don’t have to get cancer either, as long as we eat a good nutritious diet. (See Psalms 139:14)

Therefore, first viruses are grown in toxic culture medium, which supports there activity and allows their grown and metabolism. Most pathogens live under anaerobic (toxic) conditions (absence of oxygen) and would die in the presence of oxygen. Therefore, as one builds health, develops good nutrition and exercise (breathing), more oxygen is delivered to the tissues and pathogens cannot grow there. This is what we mean when we say it is the "soil" which is important to our health. "The terrain is everything", Pasteur conceded on his death bed. Yet vaccine production includes many un-natural and toxic ingredients, which we would never knowingly put into our body. Naturopathic principles (and common sense) do not include the injection of viruses grown on toxic animal tissues.

Vaccinations are biological agents made from the filth of the earth, from diseased organs and sick animals and people. These toxins are injected in a person in order to increase their antibodies against that disease and produce immunity. Yet, scientist have very little understanding of what immunity is and what makes a strong immune system. Nutrition is key in any immune enhancing program, but they ignore nutrition (herbs/vitamins/foods) in favor of profitable injections. Vaccines do more to "sensitize" than to "immunize" for they contain many toxic ingredients which cause sensitizing reactions, like allergies and anaphylaxis. As you read these citations, think about the sensitizing effects of those toxic (foreign) substances present in vaccines. Mercury has been cited as causing auto-immune conditions and increases the ANA titre (used to diagnose Lupus). Allergy/anaphylaxis is merely severe sensitization to the materials present in vaccines. All vaccines depress the immune system and contain harmful and toxic ingredients which may cause allergic or sensitizing reactions. But how can depressing the immune system create immunity to disease? We are fooled if we think that it can. Vaccines Prevent Heath!

Allergies have been said to be related to the larger protein molecules circulating within our blood stream, and vaccinations place large (foreign) sized protein molecules with in the blood stream. During the process of digestion these protein molecules are broken down so that circulating immune complexes are not a problem. Leaky gut syndrome is linked to allergies because it allows the gut to pass large protein molecules into the blood stream. These are then filtered out by the lymph-nodes and may cause problems there such as lymphadenitis. Clogged lymphatics cannot support the cellular immune system composed of the white blood cells and lymph. Therefore, allergies compromise the immune system and reduce immunity. The lymph also carries nutrients to the tissues and is the transportation medium for fats in our body. Every cell needs high quality fats, which should come from unprocessed foods and natural sources.

Horowitz states, "Most parents who feed their children properly would not let them eat a food which contained any of the many ingredients of immunizations." Koren noted, "Some of the ingredients in childhood vaccines are: thimerosal (mercury disinfectant/preservative), aluminum (additive to promote antibody response), formaldehyde (disinfectant), ethylene glycol (antifreeze) phenol (disinfectant, dye) benzethonium chloride (antiseptic) and methylparaben (antifungal, preservative).

 

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On a personal note...

Consider the source of the information you receive and ask yourself a few basic questions...

1. Who stands to benefit (profit) from giving you the information you receive?

2. Is there a "market" that relies on "fear" or "propaganda" to sell a given "product", which in this case happens to be vaccinations?

There are other variables to be taken into account regarding the "who" or "why", however, those reasons are insidious in the extreme and fall into the deeper realm of "conspiracy theory"...(mass murder, depopulation).

Do your own research.

Don't take anyone's word for anything (including mine).

Prove EVERYTHING to yourself.

Pray to the Father in all things and act as your conscience guides you.


Insidious - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

1
a : awaiting a chance to entrap : treacherous
b : harmful but enticing : seductive <insidious drugs>

2
a : having a gradual and cumulative effect : subtle <the insidious pressures of modern life>
b of a disease : developing so gradually as to be well established before becoming apparent

 

[Miss]

thyme oil applied with a little castor oil will help the lungs and the immune system, use a tiny drop because the castor oil will carry thru to the blood and one drop will touch 40 trillion cells. in the old testament the priest would burn thyme as inscense in the temples.

 

[Rockbysea]

In my experience with late adult onset asthma and the flu:.... Very large doses of vitamin C has been amazing for me. Started large doses in Nov 2010 (up to 23 grams a day which was my tolerance level) and I notice immediate improvement in my asthma. I also used to get every cold and flu that came around... sick 2 to 5 times a year. Since Nov 2010 I've only had 1 small cold that lasted 3 days with no symptoms (coughing, sore throat, weasing etc). And I had 2 instances where I felt something might have been coming but it was gone the next day. I was on a puffer every day since 2008 and since the vitamin C I've drastically reduced the puffer (symbicort) from up to 4 times a day immediately down to 1 time a day even though at times I felt I didn’t need it. And now, as of 3 weeks ago, I just stopped using the puffer and still feeling good. I’ve been taking maintenance doses of vitamin C for the past year at about 10 to 15 grams per day. I also strongly recommend at least 5,000 UIs of vitamin D3. I was taking large doses of D3 long before November 2010 but it wasn’t until the large doses vitamin C that I noticed immediate improvement but I’m sure the D3 helps also…. may be a synergy between the two vitamins

Look up Linus Pauling regarding vitamin C (awarded 2 Nobel prizes). He’s controversial but anything that is an alternative to big industry is controversial

 

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Vaccine industry pushing false fearmongering polio campaign in Israel

Vaccine industry pushing false fearmongering polio campaign in Israel

(NaturalNews) Setting the record straight, there has not been a case of polio in Israel since 1988. However, Israel monitors for the presence of polio and has discovered polio virus in sewage in several cities. This discovery triggered a massive polio vaccination campaign in children, most of whom had already been vaccinated against polio with the killed injected vaccine. Now they are revaccinating children with the live oral polio vaccine in an attempt to stop the spread of polio virus. This live vaccine had been abandoned because it can cause polio infection in recipients and in caregivers who come in contact with the virus passed in feces when changing babies' diapers. It is inevitable that the vaccine campaign will cause a few cases of polio, which will then be blamed on the wild virus "proving" that the vaccine campaign was necessary.

Children have been identified with antibodies to the wild polio virus, but no one has developed symptoms. A similar situation exists in Pakistan, where the virus has been identified, but no laboratory confirmed cases have occurred. This situation is reminiscent of a similar scenario that occurred in a Seventh Day Adventist community in the United States. None of the children were vaccinated in that community since vaccination is contrary to their religious principles. The community was exposed to a carrier of the polio virus and nearly all of the children in the community were shown to have antibodies to the virus, but no cases of polio occurred. The reason for this is that polio virus often causes cold symptoms, but rarely causes paralytic symptoms in the nervous system.

The Israeli vaccination campaign has resulted in huge protests. Many parents are objecting to the government forcing vaccination on their children. This backlash has resulted in a war between the vaccination proponents and those who oppose and refuse the vaccine. Each side is accusing the other of endangering the lives of children.

My advice is to stay out of the fray. Those who oppose vaccinations are not going to be convinced by government rhetoric. Their argument that big pharma is behind this vaccination campaign is hard to refute. Those who are intent on eradicating polio are convinced that risking some side effects of vaccines including cases of polio caused by the vaccine, and even some deaths, is a small price to pay in the war against disease. It is unlikely that this tempest in a teapot will result in anything except the sale of huge amounts of vaccine with their attendant profits for drug companies and a few cases of polio caused by the vaccine.

This campaign in Israel is also creating a precedent for a similar response in other countries, including the United States. Be prepared. It could happen here.

 

[Married_Richenbrachen]

Is it just me or has anyone else noticed the odd way vaccines are being pushed here in America. I think it all got started during the swine flu scare. They had predicted it would be a possible pandemic but turned out to be nothing unusual. The public bought into the scare tactics and record numbers of people got a flu shot.

In Australia, many parents have started getting wise to the dangers of (and lack of benefits provided by) vaccines, and more and more are choosing not to vaccinate their children. This has resulted in the government withholding benefits for those otherwise entitled, if they choose not to vaccinate their children. At present, the penalty for not vaccinating is in the order of a few hundred dollars a year (as a tax concession withheld), but definitely, as people become wise to vaccine dangers and stop vaccinating, the globalists and their puppets in government will turn up the pressure, be it media propaganda or financial incentives/disincentives (preferred), or even the threat/use of force (people tend to get more suspicious if this becomes necessary). They have also been pushing a vaccine register, so they can know the vaccination status of all children, vaccinated or not (the carrot at present is that non-vaccinating parents can still get the tax concession if they put their child's vaccine status on the register). As we have seen in recent history, registers are the first stage of control, and my family will be avoiding this as God gives us strength to do so.

My own belief is that vaccines are a population control mechanism (to control the population numbers, intelligence and health), and Bill Gates' own words seem to support this in his NWO speech (from about 2:30 in the link).
"The world today has 6.8 billion people. That's heading up to about nine billion. Now if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that by perhaps 10 or 15 percent."
Bill Gates advocates vaccines for global population reduction - YouTube

Some experts have even claimed that many vaccines contain cancer and numerous other viruses, and I believe this is true.

And yes, we also have seen an increase in the accompanying media propaganda that parents who refuse to poison their children are endangering the children of parents who do, etc. etc. They can't argue on the facts (e.g. if vaccines really worked, then an unvaccinated man or woman could never pose a threat to a vaccinated one), so instead resort to emotional appeals, or anger when their faulty science and lack of logic is exposed.

 

[Angela53510]

I was pushed to get "free" flu shots because I had asthma. That was a terrible time of constant sickness, and pneumonias for me. My lungs were permanently damaged.

I finally went back to take a full range of all vitamins and minerals, and I rarely get any kind of sickness, other than my autoimmune diseases which are hard to turn off.

The one vaccine that has not been mentioned is the highly advertised and pushed "SHINGLES" vaccine.

I have had shingles on a number of occasions. My pharmacist looked into it for me. She found out several things on the material handed out by the pharma company that produces it.
1. You should never have the shingles vaccine if you have had shingles. (I have met countless people who got it AFTER shingles)

2. You can GET shingles from the vaccine. Another safe vaccine??

3. There is absolutely no clinic proof that it works. Because 50% of people who have had chicken pox do not get shingles, they have no way of knowing if the people who don't get shingles are in the group that would not have got it anyway, making all studies useless.

So beware the shingles vaccine. They used to target children's diseases, now they are targeting adult diseases. Shingles is horrid, I cannot tell a lie, but imagine getting it from the vaccine? That would be horrific!

 

[Grace-Like-Rain]

Same thing with the chicken pox vaccine... It shows no evidence of actually being effective. I know a lot of kids who got chicken pox after being vaccinated. When it swept through our church, it had no concern for who had been vaccinated. My kids, who had NOT been vaccinated, never contracted it at all despite being exposed.

I was pushed to get "free" flu shots because I had asthma. That was a terrible time of constant sickness, and pneumonias for me. My lungs were permanently damaged.

I finally went back to take a full range of all vitamins and minerals, and I rarely get any kind of sickness, other than my autoimmune diseases which are hard to turn off.

The one vaccine that has not been mentioned is the highly advertised and pushed "SHINGLES" vaccine.

I have had shingles on a number of occasions. My pharmacist looked into it for me. She found out several things on the material handed out by the pharma company that produces it.
1. You should never have the shingles vaccine if you have had shingles. (I have met countless people who got it AFTER shingles)

2. You can GET shingles from the vaccine. Another safe vaccine??

3. There is absolutely no clinic proof that it works. Because 50% of people who have had chicken pox do not get shingles, they have no way of knowing if the people who don't get shingles are in the group that would not have got it anyway, making all studies useless.

So beware the shingles vaccine. They used to target children's diseases, now they are targeting adult diseases. Shingles is horrid, I cannot tell a lie, but imagine getting it from the vaccine? That would be horrific!

 

[Married_Richenbrachen]

Same thing with the chicken pox vaccine... It shows no evidence of actually being effective. I know a lot of kids who got chicken pox after being vaccinated. When it swept through our church, it had no concern for who had been vaccinated. My kids, who had NOT been vaccinated, never contracted it at all despite being exposed.

It sounds like I'm preaching to the choir, but I've also read that when testing new vaccines, those vaccinated are not compared to an unvaccinated population. Instead, they compare those vaccinated with the new vaccine to others vaccinated with another vaccine. In other words, they're trying to prove that the new vaccine is less unhealthy than an old one, not that the new vaccine provides better resistance than no vaccine at all (else they probably couldn't justify vaccines at all!).

My parents stopped vaccinating me when I was young, after having me vaccinated for measles and me contracting measles within a few weeks of me having been vaccinated. I believe the vaccine caused my measles, but at the very best, it certainly didn't prevent me from contracting it.

For me and my family, I would much sooner we take our chances with disease and the natural defenses or medicines that God in His wisdom provided, than the poisons and pharmaceuticals manufactured by arrogant man.

 

[ServantStrike]

Same thing with the chicken pox vaccine... It shows no evidence of actually being effective. I know a lot of kids who got chicken pox after being vaccinated. When it swept through our church, it had no concern for who had been vaccinated. My kids, who had NOT been vaccinated, never contracted it at all despite being exposed.

Did you do your best to expose your kids? If I ever have kids I'd love to have them get it the natural way. That way if they get it in adulthood they don't get all the complications.

And the chicken pox vaccine was tested using cell lines that come from human embrionic cells. It looks like WI-38 (lung from a 3 month old "specimen") and MR-5 (lung from a 14 week old specimen). Some of those could have come from miscarriages, but I know the Rotavirus ones did not (one was kidney cells from a child aborted by a family that did not want another child - which was noted because the family was healthy and well to do, a perfect specimen).

I stopped getting flu shots a long time ago. They're worthless and they are poison (mercury in them).


I agree with some vaccines where the disease is life threatening. They can and do save lives, but others are ineffective and unnecessary.

 

[Married_Richenbrachen]

Did you do your best to expose your kids? If I ever have kids I'd love to have them get it the natural way.

I don't think its necessary to expose your kids to diseases, deadly or no. That's like getting into a fight, just to get more experience in case you get into another one, or starting a war, just so you can learn how not to lose another. Learning to fight and training troops, as well as building up natural immunity, are all good things to do. But there are sensible ways to go about this (i.e. sunshine, playing in the yard), and irrational ways (vaccination, contact with diseased people until your kids come down with the symptoms). I think deliberately exposing children to diseases is not usually a good idea, but if they come across the diseased (and they will if they come across the vaccinated) during their normal work and play, so be it. You don't actually need to catch the disease for your body to build up resistance to it.

I agree with some vaccines where the disease is life threatening. They can and do save lives, but others are ineffective and unnecessary.

The more I read about vaccines, the more I believe that none save lives, even when it comes to life threatening diseases. I'm happy to be wrong, but most of the "official" figures about vaccines are made by the same people who profit from them - I'm not very trusting when it comes to obvious conflicts of interest.

 

[Grace-Like-Rain]

Did you do your best to expose your kids? If I ever have kids I'd love to have them get it the natural way. That way if they get it in adulthood they don't get all the complications.

Yes, we had a chicken pox party when the kids were very young in order to get their immunity naturally, but neither of them got it.

Married_Richenbrachen, chicken pox is so mild for young children, and so dangerous for adults. Much better for them to have it as kids. The vaccine has already proven to have a "shelf life" (if it's effective at all, which I doubt), while natural immunity is life-long.

Many other vaccines are for mild childhood diseases that are harmless... The MMR, which is a vaccination against common illnesses (measles, mumps, rubella) has been shown to cause autism, yet they still force it on children even though the illnesses themselves are no more dangerous than a cold. I've had rubella (as an adult - and I was vaccinated against it) and while it was uncomfortable for a few days, it was definitely not something I'd risk my child's health to prevent, when they could get it as toddlers and gain lifelong immunity. So disappointed in our government's push for unnecessary vaccines...

Breaking: Courts discreetly confirm MMR vaccine causes autism

Many have known this ^^ for years, and they've denied it all along. Now we find that it's true. What does that do for our trust in big pharma? Ugh... Parents, educate yourselves and make your own decisions about each and every vaccination your doctor wants to give your kids.

 

[Married_Richenbrachen]

Married_Richenbrachen, chicken pox is so mild for young children, and so dangerous for adults. Much better for them to have it as kids.

I caught this when I was older (just under 18), and it didn't feel more dangerous. I probably did complain more though, 'cause its easier to just to send young children to bed! I was told adults can still catch it, but it comes in the form of shingles rather than pox after the first time (unless the first time was due to vaccines, and then multiple chicken pox occurrences become more likely).

I suppose if there were older records of people deliberately getting their kids to catch diseases (say our great grandparents etc.), or even more so if it were in the bible, I'd be more trusting of the practice. I think the last 100 - 150 years has been filled with quack-like medical advice (amongst some good medicine), and I'm suspicious of everything that doesn't make sense to me. And when in doubt, I trust in God's provision and protection.

 

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Origin of current influenza H1N1 virus

Origin of current influenza H1N1 virus

Influenza viruses of the H3N2 subtype were still circulating in humans in May of 1977 when H1N1 viruses were isolated in China and then Russia. In the winter of 1977-78 the H1N1 viruses caused epidemic infection throughout the Northern Hemisphere. The results of serological tests indicated that the HA and NA glycoproteins of the 1977 H1N1 viruses were very similar to those from viruses of the same subtype which circulated in 1950. Palese’s group compared viral RNA of one 1977 isolate, A/USSR/90/77, with RNA from a virus isolated in 1950. To their surprise, the two viral RNAs were highly related. In contrast, there was less similarity between viral RNAs from the 1977 H1N1 virus and H1N1 viruses that circulated in humans between 1947 and 1956.

Why were the viral genomes of the 1977 H1N1 isolate and the 1950 virus so similar? If the H1N1 viruses had been replicating in an animal host for 27 years, far more genetic differences would have been identified. The authors suggested several possibilities, but only one is compelling:

…it is possible that the 1950 H1N1 influenza virus was truly frozen in nature or elsewhere and that such a strain was only recently introduced into man.


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The suggestion is clear: the virus was frozen in a laboratory freezer since 1950, and was released, either by intent or accident, in 1977. This possibility has been denied by Chinese and Russian scientists, but remains to this day the only scientifically plausible explanation.

 

[Angela53510]

My children all had chicken pox. The youngest was 3, the oldest 11 at the time. The youngest had about 15 poxes on one thigh. The doctor said it was not going to give him immunity to chicken pox in the future. The oldest was incredibly ill, still has scars from the poxes and spent three days in a cold bath tub with oatmeal, trying to get relief from the itching.

The BIG issue with chicken pox is not the childhood disease. It is that it can hide in your spine, and come out in later life as shingles. Plus you become contagious to adults and children who have not had chicken pox. I think shingles is one of the worst things I have ever endured, and I only had it on my arms. (Different arms at different times). People who get it on their faces suffer and can lose their eye if it hits the wrong nerve. (Usually only one eye, because it only comes out on half the body!)

My husband and I were both exposed extensively to mumps as children and did not get it. So I figured my children would be immune. I did have Rubella and Red Measles. I barely remember Red Measles, except for having to be quiet in a darkened room forever. Rubella was a non item. I had spots over my whole body and was not sick at all. It was very frustrating to be cooped up inside, while all my friends were playing outside when I was not ill.

But the big thing about these diseases is not how they are on the child, but how they affect others. Mumps can be very dangerous in adult males and also cause sterility. Red Measles can apparently cause brain damage, which I seemed to not have. But Rubella is extremely dangerous to unborn children. I lived in a city in BC where there had been a Rubella outbreak and they had a whole cohort of students moving up the grades together who were deaf because the moms caught it when they were pregnant and passed it to their unborn children. I knew a lot of them. Some profoundly deaf, others partially. Well, at least they had each other and strong community support. Several of them played hockey with my sons. Talking during play is extremely important, and the coach had a microphone and conveyed what was happening on the ice to them. They both played to a very high level of hockey. Not the worst thing in the world, but certainly something no parent would ever wish for their child.

But I did not want to vaccinate my younger children so I made the decision not to. Then my two oldest boys came down with an epic measles rash, and I felt guilty beyond belief. In the end, it was not measles, but an allergic reaction to a virus. How weird is that?

I did go out and vaccinate them after that, and fortunately they are all healthy. Maybe vaccinating them when they were older helped prevent autism and such? I don't know what I would do if I had children again. Probably not vaccinate. I'm not too sure! I guess I am glad those days are over.

 

[Married_Richenbrachen]

I did go out and vaccinate them after that, and fortunately they are all healthy. Maybe vaccinating them when they were older helped prevent autism and such? I don't know what I would do if I had children again. Probably not vaccinate. I'm not too sure! I guess I am glad those days are over.

I think we are fortunate today because we have a lot more information about vaccines. Sadly, it came at a cost of millions of damaged people.

I think children are most susceptible to vaccine damage, as they are rapidly developing, and their body mass is very small for the amount of poison injected (poison:body mass ratio is higher). That said, there are quite a few stories of elderly people damaged by flu vaccines, girls by HPV vaccines etc. The damage isn't always as immediate or obvious as autism/sudden infant death, making it harder to attribute to vaccination. Who would know if many old people vaccinated for flu got cancer several years later, or many girls vaccinated for HPV became barren?

I have also read stories about there being different vaccines for the classes (e.g. a safe one for the high ranking puppets etc., and the standard Russian-Roulette type for the ignorant masses). I'd sooner take my changes with our Lord's provision against disease, than the alleged preventative poisons of fallen man. As David says (2 Sam 24:14) "And David said unto Gad, I am in a great strait: let us fall now into the hand of the Lord; for his mercies are great: and let me not fall into the hand of man."